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You are mistaken. The editors being shut out are the ones trying to fix what they consider BLP violations. My opinion is that they should be heard because there haven't been substantial discussions on the talk page, and so what they want removed, though they come with inline citations, don't come with solid prior consensus for inclusion. You can still shut them out if you so choose, but it is factually incorrect to say they are committing BLP violations. Best, Usedtobecool ☎️ 05:12, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240106051200","author":"Usedtobecool","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Usedtobecool-20240106051200-Lex_Fridman_protection","replies":["c-BusterD-20240106051700-Usedtobecool-20240106051200"]}}-->

Thanks for the assessment. I'll give this another look. BusterD (talk) 05:17, 6 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240106051700","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240106051700-Usedtobecool-20240106051200","replies":[]}}-->

I recently removed several comments from Talk:Jimmy Saville and requested page protection for repeated requests that are already explained by the FAQ. I was rejected and my edits were reverted on the basis that my actions were not in line with WP:TPO. While some of the comments I originally removed were legitimate good-faith requests this restored section strikes me as not really meaningfully different from trolling or WP:FORUM. As for page protection I don’t really get why that was rejected in the first place— making repetitive edit requests that are explicitly and clearly stated to be non-actionable, even if in good faith, is disruptive because it wastes editor time and could be solved non-intrusively with simple page protection. I was wondering on whether you could give a second opinion on this situation. Dronebogus (talk) 08:08, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240107080800","author":"Dronebogus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dronebogus-20240107080800-Jimmy_Saville_talk_page","replies":["c-BusterD-20240107121700-Dronebogus-20240107080800"]}}-->

Thanks for your question and I appreciate your bringing it to me. I'm wondering why you aren't having this discussion with the admin who disagreed with you, but I'm always willing to help you with feedback, Dronebogus. I know you're trying to be helpful. I suspect User:Jauerback would say something much like I will: 1) protecting talk pages is something I do rarely and when doing so, always with regret, 2) in general clerking talk page discussions is something most editors should avoid, 3) once reverted by any admin (or by any editor for that matter), it is usually a mistake to reinstall your edit without discussion especially when you are certain of the correctness of your position. For my part, if any user wants to say something which makes them look unserious on talk, I'm inclined to let other talk page readers make their own personal assessment. Sysops aren't here to enforce opinions, merely civility. The talk thread which troubled you is borderline, I agree. But if I'd been the admin responding to your request for page protection, it's likely I would have made the same moves as Jauerback. BusterD (talk) 12:17, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240107121700","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240107121700-Dronebogus-20240107080800","replies":["c-Jauerback-20240107133900-BusterD-20240107121700"]}}-->

Thanks for explaining it better than I could have. Jauerback^dude?/_dude. 13:39, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240107133900","author":"Jauerback","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jauerback-20240107133900-BusterD-20240107121700","replies":["c-BusterD-20240107150500-Jauerback-20240107133900"]}}-->

Because I do care about retaining a contributor like yourself, and since you brought this issue to me, I'm going to expound about my approach, purely as constructive feedback. Dronebogus, I think you are useful contributor. You comprehend what we're trying to do here and you care about how readers might see the pedia. You have good eyes and a healthy sense of humor. Thank you. We need more editors like you. Seriously.

Let me explain from my point of view how you hurt your own cause: WP:BOLD is all about pagespace. On articlespace, it's important to allow even the newest editors to edit boldly. In pagespace new editors bring us a couple of irreplaceable values: 1) a fresh approach, not hamstrung by many years of dealing with disruption, and 2) an entirely new human being who might become a longterm editor like yourself. We want a clash of their ideas on the page, because there are lots of smart people out there who might have something unique to say. I want to hear their ideas, even if twisted and totally wrong. Reversion is cheap. Editors like you and I will come behind and cleanup any misdeeds or misinterpretations in articles. But I want new folks to edit pagespace BOLDLY.

In talkspace I also expect BOLD. I'd rather allow the user to say how they feel, what they're thinking. I almost never edit another in talkspace because rarely do such edits rise to such a level where they must be changed by another. PLUS, I want others to follow the discussion (perhaps years after) as it occurred, so the reader may follow the outcome and the process. When we choose to hat, close, or blank talk discussions, we are changing what the future reader might see. (and we're steering discussion, which is usually a bad idea) Administrators might need to see the individual edits in order to make a determination or assessment. It is easier to follow an unedited discussion as opposed to reading each diff. An edited discussion throws up many red flags for me, and I trust the discussion less when somebody has tried to clean it up. IMHO, this is why striking through is often superior to blanking, because the striker gets to decide what the reader will see unstruck.

As a sysop on English Wikipedia, I'm responsible for moving disagreement forward; that's what I am expected to do. Smart people often disagree. In pagespace, I'm counting on contributors' agency and willingness to solve most problems. I don't have to be everywhere, somebody like you will solve the problem without my help. In talkspace, BOLD has a lesser application. We don't normally edit anybody's talk contributions; we want to read about each editor's full opinion (even when foolish or disqualifying).

There's a scene in The Matrix where Cypher talks to Neo about the display, "You get used to it, I don't even see the code, All I see is blond, brunette, redhead". This is what an admin does. There are too many decisions by others going on; you can't look at it all without being overwhelmed. I have to trust all editors are all working like I am (like you are) for a positive outcome. It becomes simple to identify most bad doers quickly, because you've got eyes where I'm not looking, I trust you, and you will say something. BusterD (talk) 15:05, 7 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240107150500","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BusterD-20240107150500-Jauerback-20240107133900","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello. I'm the new Wikimedian-In-Residence for m:AfroCreatives WikiProject. We're reworking the campaign and would love to restore this Portal:African cinema/Selected picture/Layout part of the African cinema which you deleted at 16:00 on 11 July 2023. Thank you. Ceslause (talk) 14:06, 12 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240112140600","author":"Ceslause","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceslause-20240112140600-Request_for_undeletion","replies":[]}}-->

for the correction at the User:Worm That Turnedtalk page regarding the EOTW award. You are most kind. It's good to know that I have developed from being incorrigible to being inimitable. Buster Seven Talk (UTC) 06:15, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240115061500","author":"Buster7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Buster7-20240115061500-Thanks...","replies":["c-BusterD-20240115132700-Buster7-20240115061500"],"displayName":"Buster Seven"}}-->

I see nothing incompatible between them, brother Buster7. BusterD (talk) 13:27, 15 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240115132700","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240115132700-Buster7-20240115061500","replies":[]}}-->

I've been working on a draft RfA elections proposal – I opposed when this came up in 2021, but I've come to feel differently about why RfA doesn't work and how it can be fixed. I wonder if you might have any ideas on how to make it better :) theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 02:16, 22 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240122021600","author":"Theleekycauldron","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Theleekycauldron-20240122021600-Wikipedia:2024_administrative_elections_proposal_\u2013_could_use_some_feedback_:)","replies":["c-BusterD-20240124124800-Theleekycauldron-20240122021600"]}}-->

Thanks for the invite and I have done some reading. Will discuss. BusterD (talk) 12:48, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240124124800","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240124124800-Theleekycauldron-20240122021600","replies":["c-BusterD-20240124130300-BusterD-20240124124800"]}}-->

Has there been a prior discussion about victory conditions? What is a healthy number of admins? How many a year is an appropriate number to expect? Twenty a year? Eighty? Our pass/fail rate? I know we've had a bunch of prior talk. Answer this for me. What would a happy situation for the community look like? I'm talking specifically about appropriate staffing. What do we need? Somebody at the Foundation has surely been talking about this, min-maxing the numbers. The internet has changed and through our inaction we have inadvertently made adminship a big deal. Rainbow & jellybeans allowed, what would the wiki-world look like, admin-wise? BusterD (talk) 13:03, 24 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240124130300","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20240124130300-BusterD-20240124124800","replies":["c-Theleekycauldron-20240125012200-BusterD-20240124130300"]}}-->

I have two end goals in mind, either of which would be a win. The first would be reversing the downward trend of the number of admins. The second goal, which also serves as a threshold goal for the first, would be to make an RfA envrionment that is more focused, civil, and encouraging. theleekycauldron (talk • she/her) 01:22, 25 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240125012200","author":"Theleekycauldron","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Theleekycauldron-20240125012200-BusterD-20240124130300","replies":[]}}-->

Not sure why I didn't let you know earlier but - if you're seeing a ton of heavy editing on the Antietam article - Wikipedia:Good article reassessment/Battle of Antietam/1 was opened and I'm leading an effort to try to save GA status. Hog Farm _Talk 14:30, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240128143000","author":"Hog Farm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hog_Farm-20240128143000-Antietam","replies":["c-BusterD-20240128143800-Hog_Farm-20240128143000"]}}-->

It was a longtime FA. You just showed why it needs help; it has 2000's-era sourcing. Made me perform a search on necrometrics.com. 90 appearances. The author Matthew White is a published author but his website is merely an aggregator of other known reliable sources. This has no place in our sourcing. I'm going to take a weed whacker to all those links in pagespace (about half) right now. BusterD (talk) 14:38, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240128143800","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240128143800-Hog_Farm-20240128143000","replies":["c-BusterD-20240128161500-BusterD-20240128143800"]}}-->

This may take longer than I hoped. While the source may be quickly removed from some pages, it's apparently an anchor for some mass-casualty pages, with twenty or more uses in the article. I'll find something else I can utilize. Got me doing page work, though, so that's good. BusterD (talk) 16:15, 28 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240128161500","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20240128161500-BusterD-20240128143800","replies":[]}}-->

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Hey mate, it's me! Look, I think I'm gonna made an edit war but this user still making disruptive edit behavior. I already left the talk message about this issue. Hoping to help me to resolve this issue. Thanks!! Cornerstone2.0 (talk) 17:15, 3 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240203171500","author":"Cornerstone2.0","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cornerstone2.0-20240203171500-Philippine_Airlines_fleet_page_issue","replies":[]}}-->

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Thank you for your reversion. I do think that IP, and the other(s?) they are using is going to need a block. When they were just ranting about the supposed illegitimacy of the king’s marriage, they were merely a nuisance, but they are now ramping up their disruptive activity. Thanks and regards. KJP1 (talk) 13:28, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240209132800","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KJP1-20240209132800-Paula_Vennels_Talkpage","replies":["c-BusterD-20240209133100-KJP1-20240209132800"]}}-->

Appreciate your stopping by. Doing this reading right now. I didn't understand the sudden escalation. There's unnatural chatter around this page. BusterD (talk) 13:31, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240209133100","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240209133100-KJP1-20240209132800","replies":["c-KJP1-20240209134400-BusterD-20240209133100"]}}-->

If one was in a sympathetic frame of mind, I’d say they were unwell. But they are also becoming rather disruptive. All the best. KJP1 (talk) 13:44, 9 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240209134400","author":"KJP1","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-KJP1-20240209134400-BusterD-20240209133100","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Buster D,

I hope this message finds you well. I'm writing to request your assistance regarding theOperation Valuable page.

Recently, there have been some edits made to the page by a user who is suspected sockpuppet. These edits have significantly altered the content and may not accurately reflect the original information or consensus of the community.

Before any further action is taken, I kindly request that the previous version of the page, before the sockpuppet's edits, be restored. This will help maintain the integrity of the page until a resolution is reached regarding the disputed edits.

I understand the importance of maintaining accuracy and neutrality on Wikipedia, and I believe that restoring the previous version of the page will help uphold these principles.

Thank you for your attention to this matter. Please let me know if you need any further information or assistance.

Best regards, Azphalt (talk) 15:07, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240216150700","author":"Azphalt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Azphalt-20240216150700-Request_to_Restore_Previous_Version_of_Operation_Valuable_Page","replies":["c-2.48.50.195-20240216151400-Azphalt-20240216150700"]}}-->

Azphalt - you are extensively restoring edits from your previous sock NormalguyfromUK. You were blocked for these last year - including your efforts to move the page to a completely OR title in line with the first line you're trying to restore now. You're removing extensive additions of academic sources. You're adding completely speculative captions and badly sourced POV info in the infoboxes 2.48.50.195 (talk) 15:14, 16 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240216151400","author":"2.48.50.195","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-2.48.50.195-20240216151400-Azphalt-20240216150700","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, BusterD,

I am not as busy closing AFDs as I used to be (I got a little burned out) but I use to see you there, contributing a valuable and thoughtful opinion and I haven't seen you much lately in AFDland. I hope you are well and busy, doing something interesting and engaging. I just thought I'd say "Hi!". Take care, Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:01, 17 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240217030100","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liz-20240217030100-Hello!","replies":[]}}-->

Just letting you know that I'm logging this protection of yours as a contentious-topic action. Daniel Case (talk) 04:29, 19 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240219042900","author":"Daniel Case","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daniel_Case-20240219042900-Sexual_and_gender-based_violence_in_the_7_October_attack_on_Israel_protection","replies":[]}}-->

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		I appreciate your efforts to handle edit conflicts gracefully. Imperial[AFCND] 10:58, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240228105800","author":"ImperialAficionado","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ImperialAficionado-20240228105800-A_Barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-BusterD-20240301145900-ImperialAficionado-20240228105800"],"displayName":"Imperial"}}-->

This is an unexpected honor. I hope are all just keeping the peace because we agree this is a better way of living. Thank you, truly. BusterD (talk) 14:59, 1 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240301145900","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240301145900-ImperialAficionado-20240228105800","replies":[]}}-->

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Look up the "Voice Talent" in https://www.mobygames.com/game/77907/disney-magic-kingdoms/credits/android/ (Disney Magic Kingdoms), and I'm sure Soeterman will understands that, ok?

The cast:

• Tim Allen as Buzz Lightyear
• Tony Anselmo as Donald Duck
• Jeff Bennett as Merlin
• Jim Cummings as Pete and the opening cutscene narrator
• Joan Cusack as Jessie
• R. Lee Ermey as Sarge
• Bill Farmer as Goofy and Pluto
• Jim Hanks as Woody
• Bret Iwan as Mickey Mouse
• Tress MacNeille as Daisy Duck
• Annie Potts as Bo Peep
• John Ratzenberger as Hamm
• Wallace Shawn as Rex
• James Patrick Stuart as Zurg
• Russi Taylor as Minnie Mouse

2600:1700:4210:2450:E729:DF35:2BF8:AC89 (talk) 15:18, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240313151800","author":"2600:1700:4210:2450:E729:DF35:2BF8:AC89","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2600:1700:4210:2450:E729:DF35:2BF8:AC89-20240313151800-I_am_serious,_don't_let_Soeterman_remove_the_cast_of_Disney_Magic_Kingdoms_game.","replies":["c-BusterD-20240313153700-2600:1700:4210:2450:E729:DF35:2BF8:AC89-20240313151800","c-Soetermans-20240318155800-2600:1700:4210:2450:E729:DF35:2BF8:AC89-20240313151800"]}}-->

If you want it to stay in, you'll need a better source. Moby games, like Wikipedia is user generated content and cannot be considered independent or reliable. You're getting entirely the wrong message here: User:Soetermans doesn't care one way or the other if the cast list is inserted, so long as the list is supported and cited to WP:Reliable sources. BusterD (talk) 15:37, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240313153700","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240313153700-2600:1700:4210:2450:E729:DF35:2BF8:AC89-20240313151800","replies":["c-Soetermans-20240313181700-BusterD-20240313153700"]}}-->

Well, not entirely, generally a cast list is not appropriate for a video game article. See WP:VGSCOPE point No. 11: Cast lists: Generally speaking, a list of the actors providing voices, likenesses or motion capture acting performances for video game characters is not appropriate. If mention of an actor has received substantial coverage in independent reliable sources, typically the actor will be mentioned in the prose of the development section. So we shouldn't have a cast list at all. And if is significant coverage by reliable sources on the actors' voiceover work, reused apparently I might add, it should be incorporated into a development section. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 18:17, 13 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240313181700","author":"Soetermans","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Soetermans-20240313181700-BusterD-20240313153700","replies":["c-Soetermans-20240316154400-Soetermans-20240313181700"]}}-->

The edit protection was just lifted and they're back up to doing the same thing. I've requested a longer edit protection this time. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 15:44, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240316154400","author":"Soetermans","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Soetermans-20240316154400-Soetermans-20240313181700","replies":["c-2600:1700:4210:2450:DAAF:B482:3CC6:E712-20240316154700-Soetermans-20240316154400","c-2600:1700:4210:2450:1A64:848F:1F1F:CA1B-20240318151300-Soetermans-20240316154400"]}}-->

Ok, I promise I won't do the same edit again, Soetermans. 2600:1700:4210:2450:DAAF:B482:3CC6:E712 (talk) 15:47, 16 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240316154700","author":"2600:1700:4210:2450:DAAF:B482:3CC6:E712","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-2600:1700:4210:2450:DAAF:B482:3CC6:E712-20240316154700-Soetermans-20240316154400","replies":[]}}-->

So, Soetermans. Why did you not care one way or the other if the cast list is inserted, so long as the list is supported and cited to WP:Reliable sources? 2600:1700:4210:2450:1A64:848F:1F1F:CA1B (talk) 15:13, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240318151300","author":"2600:1700:4210:2450:1A64:848F:1F1F:CA1B","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-2600:1700:4210:2450:1A64:848F:1F1F:CA1B-20240318151300-Soetermans-20240316154400","replies":[]}}-->

I don't follow. I clearly stated it is not appropriate. You can see the manual of style bit I copy-pasted. soetermans. ^{↑↑↓↓←→←→ B A TALK} 15:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240318155800","author":"Soetermans","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Soetermans-20240318155800-2600:1700:4210:2450:E729:DF35:2BF8:AC89-20240313151800","replies":["c-BusterD-20240319011700-Soetermans-20240318155800"]}}-->

User:Soetermans has now made clear their position. WP:VGSCOPE states such lists are inappropriate, EVEN IF reliably sourced. BusterD (talk) 01:17, 19 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240319011700","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20240319011700-Soetermans-20240318155800","replies":[]}}-->

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I'm proud of you, dude. Thank you! BusterD (talk) 15:15, 30 March 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240330151500","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240330151500-Alalch_E.-20240330142300","replies":[]}}-->

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/ElephantMario seems a lot like the banned alt user https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/BalloonMario who is an alt of the puppet master https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Rayanmou07. Could you please take a look? Thanks. 2604:2DC0:101:200:0:0:0:1B1D (talk) 01:13, 5 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240505011300","author":"2604:2DC0:101:200:0:0:0:1B1D","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2604:2DC0:101:200:0:0:0:1B1D-20240505011300-Suspected_sockpuppet_Elephantmario","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for the advice on my talkpage about making some edits of my own. I've taken it to heart, and am now starting to look down some rabbit holes I've fallen down to go and make some contributions. I like Astatine (Talk to me) 15:20, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240507152000","author":"AstatineEnjoyer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AstatineEnjoyer-20240507152000-A_brownie_for_you!","replies":["c-BusterD-20240507155800-AstatineEnjoyer-20240507152000"],"displayName":"I like Astatine"}}-->

You're very welcome, and thanks for the treat. It's very easy to go down any path on Wikipedia, and I can see you're dipping your toes in. I encourage you to read the pedia. Just read. Find some things which delight you. Policing others is one way to contribute, but I urge you to edit articles boldly, knowing somebody will come behind, (perhaps years later) to further improve the work. The article count on Wikipedia will continue to rise for many years. Take part. Help us. Don't be shy. Be bold. BusterD (talk) 15:58, 7 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240507155800","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240507155800-AstatineEnjoyer-20240507152000","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi! I'm a new editor who decided to write an article about a Revolutionary War brigadier general named John Greaton. I'd love to have some collaborators on the article. I found a lot of sources, but freely admit that the article needs more sources relating to the specific campaigns and battles that Greaton fought in. MurmuringRock(talk) 15:59, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240526155900","author":"Murmuring Rock","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Murmuring_Rock-20240526155900-Draft_article_at_AFC_for_John_Greaton","replies":["c-BusterD-20240526222800-Murmuring_Rock-20240526155900"],"displayName":"MurmuringRock"}}-->

For the record, some might not approve of you approaching a prospective reviewer directly. Just FYI. For my part, I admire the WP:BOLD action. Plus you gave me an easy task. I've approved your draft and assessed its current quality as start class. Welcome! Pretty good for a newcomer and starting from scratch. Welcome again! You are under no obligation to join, but I'd like to introduce you to the Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history. This is a well-established group of like-minded lay historians. Looking at the assessment link in the the nested Military history WikiProject template, you might see how this one wikiproject assesses articles for quality, giving examples of pages at various stages of improvement. Other wikiprojects have slightly different assessment strategies. WikiProject Biography may be another useful group for John Greaton. In my opinion, a B-class article roughly corresponds to well-written high school term paper. Good Articles, A-class, and Featured Article pages (in order to quality from good to best) have experienced a vetting from other editors. It's helpful to have other sets of eyes. What sorts of subjects do you enjoy reading about? BusterD (talk) 22:28, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240526222800","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240526222800-Murmuring_Rock-20240526155900","replies":["c-Murmuring_Rock-20240526230800-BusterD-20240526222800"]}}-->

Thanks for the helpful warning and the breakdown between the different article classes! I enjoy reading about history, art, animation, and food. MurmuringRock(talk) 23:08, 26 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240526230800","author":"Murmuring Rock","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Murmuring_Rock-20240526230800-BusterD-20240526222800","replies":[],"displayName":"MurmuringRock"}}-->

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Good morning, BusterD. Sorry for popping up. Days ago I created the article Natalia Esquivel. All of a sudden, one day I saw the article had been deleted. Too late, I didn't even have the chance to just see the "request for deletion" template. By the way, that same day there was at least another article created by me whose deletion was requested, but hopefully it was still extant, then I had the opportunity to correct references and wording, afterwards the template "request for deletion" was removed. So, if you don't mind, please, undelete Natalia Esquivel, and I will do my best to rewrite it (by the way, if you take a look here, she does have meaningful references in the field of music). Best regards and thanks for your time. Fadesga (talk) 10:08, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240704100800","author":"Fadesga","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fadesga-20240704100800-Please,_undelete_Natalia_Esquivel","replies":["c-BusterD-20240704135400-Fadesga-20240704100800"]}}-->

I have restored the page but moved to draftspace. I'd like you to develop the page further and then submit it to me or another reviewer for approval. I can't argue the artist exists. The speedy deletion tag was applied by another editor who felt the page was overly promotional. Based on a cursory assessment I agreed. I am restoring on the good faith you will not try to take undue advantage of my attention. BusterD (talk) 13:54, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240704135400","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240704135400-Fadesga-20240704100800","replies":["c-BusterD-20240704141600-BusterD-20240704135400"]}}-->

I should have researched entire situation further before I responded here. I did not notice User:Fadesga is an editor of very, very, very long experience. I am sorry if my responses to that person to this point have seemed adversarial or unnecessarily defensive of the pedia. I am happy to cooperate with Fadesga in good faith, like any editor in good standing. I still see a coi issue with the subject in the thread below. For this reason I'm choosing not to undelete that page at this time. BusterD (talk) 14:16, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240704141600","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20240704141600-BusterD-20240704135400","replies":["c-BusterD-20240705151500-BusterD-20240704141600"]}}-->

Thank you for your email. I very much enjoyed hearing from you. I better understand what I see now. Neither of the articles were egregiously promotional, which is one of the reasons we're talking. I will send you a reply email describing the issue which I red flagged. You did make a serious error, but I can see now it's a good faith one that can be corrected in another draft. BusterD (talk) 15:15, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240705151500","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BusterD-20240705151500-BusterD-20240704141600","replies":[]}}-->

Good morning, BusterD. Sorry for coming up once again. Days ago I created another article, Gabriela Franco. Some days after that, the article had been deleted. Too late, I didn't even have the chance to just see the "request for deletion" template. So, if you don't mind, please, undelete Gabriela Franco, and I will do my best to rewrite it (further, this artist has meaningful references in the field of music). Thanks again! Best regards, Fadesga (talk) 10:10, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240704101000","author":"Fadesga","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fadesga-20240704101000-Please,_undelete_Gabriela_Franco","replies":["c-BusterD-20240704140500-Fadesga-20240704101000"]}}-->

I'm going to decline this request UNTIL you get the other page past review. There is an undeclared WP:COI issue. I don't know whether you've been paid but you have many red flags of a connected editor. I'm be happy to explain this privately to any interested admin but have no intention of educating others further on how to avoid detection next time. BusterD (talk) 14:05, 4 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240704140500","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240704140500-Fadesga-20240704101000","replies":["c-BusterD-20240705152800-BusterD-20240704140500"]}}-->

Done and draftified. Get a review before republishing please. BusterD (talk) 15:28, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240705152800","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20240705152800-BusterD-20240704140500","replies":[]}}-->

and a slightly larger event in early August. Looking forward to seeing many fellow wikipedians at WikiConference North America 2024! Anybody else I know going? BusterD (talk) 15:08, 5 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240705150800","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BusterD-20240705150800-FYI_I_will_be_in_Indy_this_October","replies":[]}}-->

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Precious

Three years!

--Gerda Arendt (talk) 09:07, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240706090700","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240706090700-Precious_anniversary","replies":["c-BusterD-20240706125600-Gerda_Arendt-20240706090700"]}}-->

Very sweet to think of me. On July 22, my account turns 19! 12:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC) BusterD (talk) 12:56, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240706125600","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240706125600-Gerda_Arendt-20240706090700","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-20240706131500-BusterD-20240706125600"]}}-->

Impressive! A few days later, mine will be 15 ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:15, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240706131500","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-20240706131500-BusterD-20240706125600","replies":["c-BusterD-20240706134300-Gerda_Arendt-20240706131500"]}}-->

Some of our younglings are making an impression, aren't they? BusterD (talk) 13:43, 6 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240706134300","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BusterD-20240706134300-Gerda_Arendt-20240706131500","replies":[]}}-->

Happy adminship anniversary! Hi BusterD! On behalf of the Birthday Committee, I'd like to wish you a very happy anniversary of your successful request for adminship. Enjoy this special day! The Herald (Benison) (talk) 10:46, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240709104600","author":"The Herald","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Herald-20240709104600-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!","replies":[],"displayName":"The Herald (Benison)"}}-->

Thanks, User:The Herald! Nice of you to think about me. A celebration of dubious significance, but another successful turn round the old fiery thing in the daytime sky. BusterD (talk) 23:20, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240709232000","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BusterD-20240709232000-Happy_Adminship_Anniversary!","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for encouraging new editors to edit, even if their content is promotional. Also thanks for your reply on my talk page. Myrealnamm (💬pros · ✏️cons) 21:35, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240709213500","author":"Myrealnamm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Myrealnamm-20240709213500-A_cookie_for_you!","replies":["c-BusterD-20240709231700-Myrealnamm-20240709213500"]}}-->

The person was hired to do a job. They may be quite a good writer. Writing encyclopedically is challenging; easy to imitate but hard to capture. Both noms for speedy were within range. Probably should have deleted it. But here we have new editor, and if they are willing to follow our policies and guidelines, I'm not going to bite them just because they are trying to do the job. BusterD (talk) 23:17, 9 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240709231700","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240709231700-Myrealnamm-20240709213500","replies":[]}}-->

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I tried to be nice... BusterD (talk) 11:31, 10 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240710113100","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240710113100-Chris_denny_4840-20240710112800","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi, I see that you closed the RFC here: [1], but besides making the claim that there is strong consensus, you haven't included any rationale as to how you determined that this consensus exists, and that it is strong. You mentioned WP:UNCENSORED, but haven't said why it is a stronger than the counter-arguments that were given to address this concern. Could you please elaborate more on this? spintheer (talk) 20:06, 16 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240716200600","author":"Spintheer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Spintheer-20240716200600-Explaining_rationale_of_RFC_close","replies":["c-BusterD-20240719112600-Spintheer-20240716200600"]}}-->

Discussions on Wikipedia are determined by consensus usually applied by an editor who has no direct interest in the subject under discussion. In the RFC, about a half dozen contributors referred to WP:UNCENSORED. An opposing argument was MOS:VULGAR, but your italicized quote of the section omits a key section (quotes should always be used verbatim) which a number of Option 1 proponents mentioned. One editor (Birdelephant) changed their opinion away from Option 2 specifically because of your interaction with them over verbatim language. While consensus is not generally derived from majority, when twelve editors who make reasonable arguments oppose five editors with reasonable arguments, the twelve will usually prevail. In this case, the RFC was started on June 5 by somebody whom advocated option 3. By June 13, eleven editors had contributed. By that date I see four for Option 3, five for Option 1, and two for Option 2. After June 13, six editors came along, read the previous discussion and chose Option 1. None advocated another option. When the trend of the discussion is so obviously pointing towards a single outcome, a closer is wise to choose that outcome. IMHO, if we had let the discussion run longer, it would have been closed the same. BusterD (talk) 11:26, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240719112600","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240719112600-Spintheer-20240716200600","replies":["c-Spintheer-20240802072800-BusterD-20240719112600"]}}-->

I understand. Thank you for responding. spintheer (talk) 07:28, 2 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240802072800","author":"Spintheer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Spintheer-20240802072800-BusterD-20240719112600","replies":[]}}-->

Hello. You recently closed a RfC on the Donald Trump talk page, citing MOS:CONTENTIOUS i.e. the avoidance of contentious labels.

However, this rule already applied to the article, as it does to others. The previous RfC that was questioned here applied additional editorial protection to the article that goes beyond MOS:CONTENTIOUS.

You have not explained why you thought the there is a consenus for editorial protection beyond that policy, or why such protection is appropriate. Please do so. Cheers. Cortador (talk) 02:14, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240719021400","author":"Cortador","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cortador-20240719021400-Recently_closed_Donald_Trump_RfC","replies":["c-BusterD-20240719114300-Cortador-20240719021400"]}}-->

As closer, I'm required to read the discussion and determine what the community had decided to do about the question. Your ostensible objective was to see a previous (2017) consensus overturned (to see whether there is consensus to cancel it). You'd have needed strong support for that position, and you didn't get it. There was a fair amount of discussion, but no strong demonstrated agreement for your position. Mostly the folks in the discussion thought using Wikipedia's voice to call anyone a liar was outside of the purpose of an online encyclopedia (MOS:CONTENTIOUS). BusterD (talk) 11:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240719114300","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240719114300-Cortador-20240719021400","replies":["c-Cortador-20240719143600-BusterD-20240719114300"]}}-->

RfC are to be decided on arguments, not number of votes. MOS:CONTENTIOUS already applies to the article - the RfC was about protection beyond MOS:CONTENTIOUS.

I didn't see anyone bring forward a sound argument for this kind of protection, nor did you mention it in your closing statement. Cortador (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240719143600","author":"Cortador","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cortador-20240719143600-BusterD-20240719114300","replies":[]}}-->

I saw that you were the closer for the speedy deletion of Sabrina Brier, which I created and which was deleted based on WP:A7. The article had multiple reliable secondary sources establishing Brier's notability and even barring this, WP:A7 appears to be reserved for there being no claim of notability regardless of sourcing, so it seemed to me like it was being misattributed. I responded on the talk page to contest the speedy deletion tag but there was seemingly never any response to that and the page got deleted anyway.

Even if one were to argue for the page's deletion, further discussion would definitely be necessary here. I was wondering if you would be willing to review the page and, if you find it to be okay, to restore it. Thanks! benǝʇᴉɯ 23:43, 19 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240719234300","author":"Benmite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Benmite-20240719234300-Deletion_of_Sabrina_Brier","replies":["c-BusterD-20240720144500-Benmite-20240719234300"],"displayName":"ben\u01dd\u0287\u1d09\u026f"}}-->

I have restored the page at your request. While I did read the page prior to my deletion, in the moment I was responding to the A7 tag of an experienced admin I respect highly in the deletion process (User:Liz ). If I read the page in a cursory way before hitting the button, I apologize. If Liz wants to pursue deletion process, she is welcome to nominate in the normal way. I remain neutral as to whether the page should be included on Wikipedia. Thanks for your courtesy and understanding.

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Hello! I pushed the "thank button", but also wanted to thank you more directly for making this edit; it was exactly one month ago, but I noticed it only today. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 19:43, 4 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240804194300","author":"Sundostund","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sundostund-20240804194300-Neo-Confederate_blanking","replies":["c-BusterD-20240806110600-Sundostund-20240804194300"]}}-->

While you and I frequently disagree, I can read in your edits you share with me agreement on many issues as well. Strong and documented disagreement can provide our encyclopedia a basis for the fullest transparency. Your generous thanks are welcome and noted. BusterD (talk) 11:06, 6 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240806110600","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20240806110600-Sundostund-20240804194300","replies":["c-BusterD-20240812120300-BusterD-20240806110600"]}}-->

User:Sundostund, I'm going to take a liberty and thank you twice as well. Rereading my thank you, it seems so formal. To expand: I find wikipedians' engagement in full-blown arguments sometimes leads to my discovering an inner truth abut myself and humankind. This makes me happy. There are fewer and fewer issues on this planet that require the use of weapons, once people can get access to information and connection. Anyone on the planet can read our conversation on this talk page. And respond. This gives me confidence. Wikipedians' community of good faith but tested trust teaches me that I don't have to be right all the time. Frequently on Wikipedia I'm learning a minor fact (or position) which blows my mind. Often it's because somebody disagreed with me. This happens often enough to give me willingness to listen. None of us can know everything, but I trust your skepticism and you trust mine. That may be enough. You and I now are forever linked by your gratitude. BusterD (talk) 12:03, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240812120300","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20240812120300-BusterD-20240806110600","replies":["c-Sundostund-20240812224400-BusterD-20240812120300"]}}-->

Buster, I can't thank you enough for your more than kind words. Beside fully agreeing with you, I can only add this – I have learned long time ago to accept my (periodical) mistakes and ignorance, and to accept the knowledge of others at the same time. That is the only way to improve myself, and to avoid repeating what I did wrong in the past. — Sundostund mppria ^{(talk / contribs)} 22:44, 12 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240812224400","author":"Sundostund","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Sundostund-20240812224400-BusterD-20240812120300","replies":[]}}-->

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It was immediately recreated after you deleted it. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:47, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018194700","author":"I dream of horses","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-I_dream_of_horses-20241018194700-Football_League_2025","replies":["c-I_dream_of_horses-20241018195500-I_dream_of_horses-20241018194700"]}}-->

It just happened again! I've now also tagged the page for salting. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:55, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018195500","author":"I dream of horses","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-I_dream_of_horses-20241018195500-I_dream_of_horses-20241018194700","replies":["c-BusterD-20241018195600-I_dream_of_horses-20241018195500"]}}-->

Thanks for the eyes. Salted. BusterD (talk) 19:56, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018195600","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20241018195600-I_dream_of_horses-20241018195500","replies":["c-I_dream_of_horses-20241018195800-BusterD-20241018195600"]}}-->

No problem! I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 19:58, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018195800","author":"I dream of horses","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-I_dream_of_horses-20241018195800-BusterD-20241018195600","replies":[]}}-->

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I hope that this message finds you well. I have seen your message on the page concerned. I agree with your advice to recuse myself from editing activities pro tempore. I would pay less attention to the articles for which I have sacrificed a tremendous amount of time and effort rewriting. I may have contributed everything I willed due to my limited capacity. I wish that my initiative could be accepted as a substitute for sanctions to enable a constructive return to relevant topic areas.

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Thanks for the response in my talk. I can't know how you feel, but I wrote WP:PACE after I went through an incident of my own many years ago. I found my own voice by not writing for a while. BusterD (talk) 15:13, 20 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241020151300","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20241020151300-Steven1991-20241020145300","replies":[]}}-->

I don't know what happened, it was indeed unintentional, so thank you for this. Fram (talk) 18:13, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022181300","author":"Fram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fram-20241022181300-Thanks","replies":["c-BusterD-20241022183000-Fram-20241022181300"]}}-->

Disagreeing with smart people is always better than the various alternatives. Let's keep that going. I believe you and I both want the best for Wikipedia. I didn't have your experiences with Hawkeye7 and I can't know your feelings. But you and I are only opponents here on the merits, and never as wikipedians. BusterD (talk) 18:30, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022183000","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20241022183000-Fram-20241022181300","replies":[]}}-->

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Buster, as the deleting admin you get the blame even though I think that more of the responsibility should be on the CSD tagger (me in this case). I will be perusing through our redirect review checklist again after this. I'm still looking askance at these redirects and am definitely taking Apr 31 to RfD. Thanks for your admining and happy editing! -MPGuy2824 (talk) 06:47, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028064700","author":"MPGuy2824","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MPGuy2824-20241028064700-Cryptic-20241027213500","replies":["c-BusterD-20241028103400-MPGuy2824-20241028064700"]}}-->

No worries. Everybody's trying to do something useful. Thanks for putting the date(s) up for discussion. BusterD (talk) 10:34, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028103400","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20241028103400-MPGuy2824-20241028064700","replies":[]}}-->

The person who started the silly MfD has put on my a notice that he withdrew the MfD (as if I didn't already know), and an admonition for both you and I to AGF (!). I just thought you would be interested, I certainly don't want to pursue this any further, just letting you know. Good day and thanks again. rogerd (talk) 22:24, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027222400","author":"Rogerd","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rogerd-20241027222400-Silly_MfD","replies":["c-Rogerd-20241027222700-Rogerd-20241027222400"]}}-->

Well, now that language as been removed a few minutes later. --rogerd (talk) 22:27, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027222700","author":"Rogerd","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rogerd-20241027222700-Rogerd-20241027222400","replies":["c-BusterD-20241027225000-Rogerd-20241027222700"]}}-->

They misjudged and reconsidered. This looks like an adult to me. We have handled worse. BusterD (talk) 22:50, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027225000","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20241027225000-Rogerd-20241027222700","replies":["c-Rogerd-20241027234300-BusterD-20241027225000"]}}-->

You are absolutely right we have handled worse. I was never really concerned. Even if the powers that be deleted my silly user box, it wouldn't have been worth losing any sleep. rogerd (talk) 23:43, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027234300","author":"Rogerd","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Rogerd-20241027234300-BusterD-20241027225000","replies":["c-BusterD-20241028000100-Rogerd-20241027234300"]}}-->

In the last year or so, ragpicking retired users' talk and subpages has been somewhat fashionable. Sometimes they don't notice the editor is still active. BusterD (talk) 00:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241028000100","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-BusterD-20241028000100-Rogerd-20241027234300","replies":[]}}-->

I just noticed the protection you placed on User:DGG (NYPL) was temporary and has expired. Was that intentional? Steel1943 (talk) 22:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241029220400","author":"Steel1943","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Steel1943-20241029220400-Page_protection_for_User:DGG_(NYPL)","replies":["c-BusterD-20241030015200-Steel1943-20241029220400"]}}-->

Fixed. Thanks again. Lot of distractions in RL. BusterD (talk) 01:52, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030015200","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20241030015200-Steel1943-20241029220400","replies":["c-Steel1943-20241030042100-BusterD-20241030015200"]}}-->

I understand as I've had a few myself, so I hate to have to ask another question: Is the semi-protection you applied instead of full protection intentional? Steel1943 (talk) 04:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030042100","author":"Steel1943","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Steel1943-20241030042100-BusterD-20241030015200","replies":["c-BusterD-20241030101800-Steel1943-20241030042100"]}}-->

Jeez. Thanks again. BusterD (talk) 10:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030101800","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BusterD-20241030101800-Steel1943-20241030042100","replies":["c-Steel1943-20241030130100-BusterD-20241030101800"]}}-->

Thanks! Hope all gets better. Steel1943 (talk) 13:01, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030130100","author":"Steel1943","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Steel1943-20241030130100-BusterD-20241030101800","replies":[]}}-->

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This is a very nice thing to say. BusterD (talk) 10:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241108103700","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20241108103700-9mm.trilla-20241108053600","replies":[]}}-->

In Shipwrecked, p. 6, in the paragraph about AO's birth, it states, "On the streets of Portland, strangers would stop 'to look at' baby Appleton 'and exclaim at his beauty.'" I leave it to you to decide whether this constitutes an adequate source for his having been born in Maine, and whether the question is important enough to spend time editing. I would let it go. Maurice Magnus (talk) 13:00, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241108130000","author":"Maurice Magnus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Maurice_Magnus-20241108130000-Appleton_Oaksmith's_birthplace","replies":["c-BusterD-20241108130200-Maurice_Magnus-20241108130000"]}}-->

It does seem "politician" is a poor single word to describe the man. Hope to find a better one. BusterD (talk) 13:02, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241108130200","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20241108130200-Maurice_Magnus-20241108130000","replies":["c-Maurice_Magnus-20241108160800-BusterD-20241108130200"]}}-->

How about “shipper, possible slave-trader, convicted criminal, blockade runner, and state legislator”? Maurice Magnus (talk) 16:08, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241108160800","author":"Maurice Magnus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Maurice_Magnus-20241108160800-BusterD-20241108130200","replies":["c-BusterD-20241108164000-Maurice_Magnus-20241108160800"]}}-->

All at once, perhaps. If you don't mind I'm going to read further on this guy. Writers for parents. There's a real story here. Not a big one, perhaps, but a really deep one... BusterD (talk) 16:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241108164000","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BusterD-20241108164000-Maurice_Magnus-20241108160800","replies":["c-Maurice_Magnus-20241109010400-BusterD-20241108164000"]}}-->

I don’t mind, and I won’t edit the article for now. This site states explicitly that AO was born in Maine: digital.lib.ecu.edu Maurice Magnus (talk) 01:04, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241109010400","author":"Maurice Magnus","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Maurice_Magnus-20241109010400-BusterD-20241108164000","replies":[]}}-->

Can you please tag The OG Bloodline (professional wrestling) for deletion? It has one source even though the page is 10,000 bytes in length meaning the majority of its contents are unsourced. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241110004300","author":"Lemonademan22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lemonademan22-20241110004300-The_OG_Bloodline","replies":["c-Lemonademan22-20241110005800-Lemonademan22-20241110004300"]}}-->

Nevermind, the article has been made into a redirect. Lemonademan22 (talk) 00:58, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241110005800","author":"Lemonademan22","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lemonademan22-20241110005800-Lemonademan22-20241110004300","replies":[]}}-->

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This user that you blocked is continuing to logout sock as 90.218.17.152 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) (it's very obviously them, given their same agenda, and the fact that the IP has edited Paleoaficionado's comments as if they were themselves). Could you block this address as well. Thanks. Hemiauchenia (talk) 23:18, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241116231800","author":"Hemiauchenia","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hemiauchenia-20241116231800-Paleoaficionado","replies":["c-Hemiauchenia-20241117162400-Hemiauchenia-20241116231800"]}}-->

Another IP user, likely either a sock or meatpuppet 87.252.56.139 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) has continued to pop up with the exact same agenda as Paleoaficionado. Can I request a block? Hemiauchenia (talk) 16:24, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117162400","author":"Hemiauchenia","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hemiauchenia-20241117162400-Hemiauchenia-20241116231800","replies":["c-BusterD-20241117164400-Hemiauchenia-20241117162400"]}}-->

I have blocked them, but note the pending changes prevented any disruption to live pagespace. They gave away an ip address but got nothing in exchange. BusterD (talk) 16:44, 17 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241117164400","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BusterD-20241117164400-Hemiauchenia-20241117162400","replies":[]}}-->

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As an administrator you're allowed to decline a CSD tag for any reason you wish, but do note that A: There is no text on WP:CSD that discourages nominating old articles and B: I have A7 tags for articles this old be accepted in the past. Mach61 05:24, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241127052400","author":"Mach61","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mach61-20241127052400-Seleke_Botsime","replies":["c-BusterD-20241127121200-Mach61-20241127052400"]}}-->

But 10+ years? I rarely see a speedy nom on an article that old. You're right of course. I decided the best thing was to measure consensus at a formal process and I'd be shocked if the process doesn't delete. BusterD (talk) 12:12, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241127121200","author":"BusterD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BusterD-20241127121200-Mach61-20241127052400","replies":[]}}-->

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