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Hot Stuff (I Want You Back)

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The article has been deleted, so I removed it from the infobox JJH1992 20:05, 9 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-09T20:05:00.000Z","author":"JJH1992","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JJH1992-2007-04-09T20:05:00.000Z-Hot_Stuff_(I_Want_You_Back)","replies":[]}}-->

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Name Change.

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As the article "The Pussycat Dolls" has been renamed to "Pussycat Dolls", would it be worth moving this template to a new name or not? Acalamari 20:01, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-16T20:01:00.000Z","author":"Acalamari","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Acalamari-2007-04-16T20:01:00.000Z-Name_Change.","replies":["c-Acalamari-2007-07-16T16:48:00.000Z-Acalamari-2007-04-16T20:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

To clarify, I think we should move this template to "Template: Pussycat Dolls" for consistency, as I believe all other articles relating to the Pussycat Dolls have been moved to drop the "The". I can perform the move and clear up, I just want to know if it's a good idea or not. Acalamari 16:48, 16 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-16T16:48:00.000Z","author":"Acalamari","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Acalamari-2007-07-16T16:48:00.000Z-Acalamari-2007-04-16T20:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Extraordinary_Machine-2007-07-17T17:49:00.000Z-Acalamari-2007-07-16T16:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wikipedia:Naming conventions says nothing about including or excluding the word The when it is at the start of group names, so I see no problem with the move if it's to establish consistency with the titles of the other Dolls-related pages. It appears that The is used in the group's promotional materials and on their record covers (e.g. Image:PCDalbum.jpg), so maybe we should ask at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions if the relevant pages should be moved back from "Pussycat Dolls" to "The Pussycat Dolls". Extraordinary Machine 17:49, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-17T17:49:00.000Z","author":"Extraordinary Machine","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Extraordinary_Machine-2007-07-17T17:49:00.000Z-Acalamari-2007-07-16T16:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Acalamari-2007-07-17T17:58:00.000Z-Extraordinary_Machine-2007-07-17T17:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the response; I'm not very experienced with the naming conventions, and therefore, try to keep out of moves. I just looked the log for Pussycat Dolls, and it seems it was originally Journalist who renamed the page. Maybe it'll be worth asking him to join this discussion before posting at Wikipedia talk: Naming conventions? Acalamari 17:58, 17 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-17T17:58:00.000Z","author":"Acalamari","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Acalamari-2007-07-17T17:58:00.000Z-Extraordinary_Machine-2007-07-17T17:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Journalist-2008-05-31T18:38:00.000Z-Acalamari-2007-07-17T17:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's a case of avoiding the definite article ("the") at the beginning of the page name, as per WP Naming conventions. "The" wouldn't be in running text in any article about the Pussycat Dolls (see? :-)), and even their later material has now abandoned it's use: Image:PCD - Wait A Minute single cover.jpg, Image:When I Grow Up.jpg, Image:I Don't Need A Man single cover.jpg. However, it's not something I have a huge issue with, so I won't have a problem if it's changed back. But we should be consistent with the template as well. Orane (talk) 18:38, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-31T18:38:00.000Z","author":"Journalist","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Journalist-2008-05-31T18:38:00.000Z-Acalamari-2007-07-17T17:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Acalamari-2008-05-31T18:47:00.000Z-Journalist-2008-05-31T18:38:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Orane"}}-->

Thanks for the response, and your move makes sense: I think this should be moved to "Template:Pussycat Dolls" to be consistent with everything else. Regarding the "The" however, I have noticed that PCD have dropped the "The" several times, such as on their covers, and even my 2007 PCD calendar just said "Pussycat Dolls" rather than "The Pussycat Dolls". Acalamari 18:47, 31 May 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-31T18:47:00.000Z","author":"Acalamari","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Acalamari-2008-05-31T18:47:00.000Z-Journalist-2008-05-31T18:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Changed Style

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I changed the style of the template becuase PCD deserved a more up-2-date template like most big artists. This new template also looks organized. Mel Etitis is always changing it to the way he wants it to be and he isn't the owner of wikipedia.org. Thank you. Baby Luigi 21:48, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-16T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Baby Luigi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Baby_Luigi-2007-04-16T21:48:00.000Z-Changed_Style","replies":["c-Mel_Etitis-2007-04-16T23:00:00.000Z-Baby_Luigi-2007-04-16T21:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

First, read WP:CIVIL.

Secondly, you're reverting to a non-standard style, that goes against the WikiProject style, and that contains poor punctuation and capitalisation. This isn't a fanzine, and it has rules. If you continue to flout them, you'lll be blocked for disruptive editing. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 23:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-16T23:00:00.000Z","author":"Mel Etitis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mel_Etitis-2007-04-16T23:00:00.000Z-Baby_Luigi-2007-04-16T21:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Then Why Do So Many singers like timbaland and beyonce and justi you can have SeX with this is not a website you should be on!!!

Because editors who either don't know about or don't care about Wikipedia conventions and style have done the same thing as you. Saying that other articles make a mistake is not grounds for making it again. --Mel Etitis (Talk) 18:31, 18 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-18T18:31:00.000Z","author":"Mel Etitis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mel_Etitis-2007-04-18T18:31:00.000Z-Changed_Style","replies":[]}}-->

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Videography

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Videography includes the live DVD, so I have removed the duplication.--Design 13:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-08-09T13:49:00.000Z","author":"Design","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Design-2007-08-09T13:49:00.000Z-Videography","replies":[]}}-->

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When is a single not a single?

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See discussion page at Pussycat Dolls discography. --Design (talk) 08:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-02-09T08:44:00.000Z","author":"Design","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Design-2009-02-09T08:44:00.000Z-When_is_a_single_not_a_single?","replies":[]}}-->