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难得有人会在DYK中仔细看条目提意见，汉语维基百科需要更多这样的人。期待阁下今后能积极参与其他条目评选项目，指出各种错误。 7（留言） 2016年10月21日 (五) 01:19 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-21T01:19:00.000Z","author":"Jarodalien","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jarodalien-2016-10-21T01:19:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01","replies":[],"displayName":"7"}}-->

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	感谢阁下一直以理性地处理各种讨论和争议。 galaxyharrylion（留言） 2016年11月6日 (日) 02:21 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-11-06T02:21:00.000Z","author":"Galaxyharrylion","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Galaxyharrylion-2016-11-06T02:21:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_2","replies":[]}}-->

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关于arpa：

你说得对，是我过度解释了，en的说法应该是A的主机名添加arpa作为后缀并以.作为分隔。我直接解释为添加.arpa作为后缀，并再以.结尾，en后一句没体现，过度解释了DNS的结尾.的功能。路过围观的Sakamotosan 2017年12月1日 (五) 08:29 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-01T08:29:00.000Z","author":"Cwek","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cwek-2017-12-01T08:29:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_3","replies":[]}}-->

@cwek：谢谢。我一开始也没想清楚，也是被你问了才去查了资料。另外，不做一个FQDN的条目吗？ --犬風船（条目的编写不是资料搬运）※时间就是金钱，我的朋友。 2017年12月1日 (五) 08:34 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-12-01T08:34:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2017-12-01T08:34:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_3","replies":[],"displayName":"\u72ac\u98a8\u8239"}}-->

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		满族星章
		感谢你为设计新的满族标志（[1]）所做的贡献，望安达继续努力。ᠰᡳᠨᡳ ᡥᡡᠰᡠᠨ ᠪᡠᠮᡝ ᡶᠠᡧᡧᠠᡵᠠ ᡩᡝ ᠪᠠᠨᡳᡥᠠ᠉--火器营蓝翎长 2018年2月5日 (一) 03:05 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-02-05T03:05:00.000Z","author":"\u0160olon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u0160olon-2018-02-05T03:05:00.000Z-\u6ee1\u65cf\u661f\u7ae0","replies":[],"displayName":"\u84dd\u7fce\u957f"}}-->
		_{此维基百科星章奖满族星章授予Inufuusen/星章，以肯定他（她）对满族条目做出的重大贡献}

@Šolon：多谢。实际作图者是另外一位朋友，我仅参与了设计。这个标志和已有标志的区别主要是字体和八旗排列。字体采用篆字。八旗排列顺序（和镶旗颜色）在美术上做了改进。目前满族标志的八旗排列与北京八旗驻防方位一致，但个人认为该方位不等于官方的八旗排列，更何况北京驻防方位体现了五行相克，这并非满洲固有文化，不必坚持。故而做出了“请自由修改八旗排列顺序”的建议。另外镶边颜色确实清代官方用法是红旗以外镶红边，红旗镶白边，但在logo设计上未必需要坚持，更何况原本八旗的镶旗在满语原意里不必然是“镶”的意思，现代设计中做成淡色也是合理的。故而当那位作者提议修改镶边颜色时我赞同。Šolon兄如有兴趣，这个话题可以移动到满族专题的讨论页。 --犬風船（“我不认识的字就不是字”）※时间就是金钱，我的朋友。 2018年2月5日 (一) 03:19 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-02-05T03:19:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-02-05T03:19:00.000Z-\u6ee1\u65cf\u661f\u7ae0","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-02-05T03:22:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-02-05T03:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u72ac\u98a8\u8239"}}-->

比起北京驻防方位，我更喜欢盛京故宫十王亭的顺序：左翼镶黄、正白、镶白、正蓝，右翼正黄、正红、镶红、镶蓝。当然了这都是特定历史时期特定情境下的排列。当今之世，如果要做logo，不必拘泥太多。 --犬風船（“我不认识的字就不是字”）※时间就是金钱，我的朋友。 2018年2月5日 (一) 03:22 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-02-05T03:22:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-02-05T03:22:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-02-05T03:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u0160olon-2018-02-05T03:37:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-02-05T03:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u72ac\u98a8\u8239"}}-->

请代我向那位朋友表示感谢。做图是本人弱项，尤其是设计新图，所以确实需要更多这方面的能人。至于方位之类的都是小事，完全可以自由发挥。--火器营蓝翎长 2018年2月5日 (一) 03:37 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-02-05T03:37:00.000Z","author":"\u0160olon","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-\u0160olon-2018-02-05T03:37:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-02-05T03:22:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u84dd\u7fce\u957f"}}-->

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有時，有些事情太過在意，辛苦的是自己，雲淡風輕。希望您今後繼續努力校對各式各樣的條目。 A T 2018年2月13日 (二) 14:35 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-02-13T14:35:00.000Z","author":"AT","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AT-2018-02-13T14:35:00.000Z-\u7d66\u60a8\u7684\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_2","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-02-13T14:36:00.000Z-AT-2018-02-13T14:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"A"}}-->

七天后再见。 --犬風船（“我不认识的字就不是字”）※时间就是金钱，我的朋友。 2018年2月13日 (二) 14:36 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-02-13T14:36:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-02-13T14:36:00.000Z-AT-2018-02-13T14:35:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u72ac\u98a8\u8239"}}-->

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感谢阁下对韩国城市政区条目的校对工作，社群大多人带有善意推断，良药苦口着实不易，辛苦了。河水和谁在喝水 · 壮哉大西南 2018年2月13日 (二) 15:18 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-02-13T15:18:00.000Z","author":"\u745e\u4e3d\u6c5f\u7684\u6cb3\u6c34","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u745e\u4e3d\u6c5f\u7684\u6cb3\u6c34-2018-02-13T15:18:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_4","replies":[],"displayName":"\u6cb3\u6c34"}}-->

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	中文維基需要你。 No1lovesu（留言） 2018年2月13日 (二) 15:43 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-02-13T15:43:00.000Z","author":"No1lovesu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-No1lovesu-2018-02-13T15:43:00.000Z-\u7d66\u60a8\u7684\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_3","replies":[]}}-->

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		感謝您一直以來在條目改善問題上的認真負責態度！-- Jim \| Talk \| 2018年4月27日 (五) 06:08 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-27T06:08:00.000Z","author":"Jimjianghk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jimjianghk-2018-04-27T06:08:00.000Z-\u7d66\u60a8\u4e00\u500b\u661f\u7ae0\uff01","replies":[],"displayName":"Jim"}}-->

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感謝您在DYKC精準的評論！喝杯茶冷靜一下，希望您能繼續專注在條目本身的質量。吉太小唯（留言） 2018年4月18日 (三) 06:49 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-18T06:49:00.000Z","author":"Shugochara13456","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T06:49:00.000Z-\u4e00\u676f\u8336\u9001\u7d66\u60a8\uff01","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5409\u592a\u5c0f\u552f"}}-->

@Shugochara13456：谢谢。我很冷静。WP:维基压力大的时候是不好过，不过我已经坚持过去了。2月末到3月我有5周时间没有参与DYKC，也是为了让自己冷静。我知道自己在做什么。我认为所谓的“关注条目本身质量”是错误的要求。连共识都没有，评审是没有意义的。长期以来，DYKC中大量不符合三大方针的条目入选，已经是大问题了。错过了这个机会，想在GA评选中让条目符合三大方针，很难。事实上长期以来各种评选也多少流于形式。我认为问题根源就在入口处——DYKC的放水。鼓励新人是对的，但是不能把新人拉进来之后就放养。难免产生几十级创作奖还不知道三大方针的“准专家”。 --🐕🎈（认错不会死，只会让你进步）※自我禁制，6月前不在DYK投反对票 2018年4月18日 (三) 06:53 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-18T06:53:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T06:53:00.000Z-\u4e00\u676f\u8336\u9001\u7d66\u60a8\uff01","replies":["c-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:13:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T06:53:00.000Z","c-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:16:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T06:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15\ud83c\udf88"}}-->

我能明白您對新人認真負責的態度，我第一次DYK就讓您給我改進了很多地方，只是您現在對螺钉的評論已經慢慢偏離條目本身了，況且螺钉也已非新人了吧，無法與他溝通，那說再多他也不會聽吧？倒不如把精力放在更需要引導的新人上，您覺得呢？吉太小唯（留言） 2018年4月18日 (三) 07:13 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-18T07:13:00.000Z","author":"Shugochara13456","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:13:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T06:53:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5409\u592a\u5c0f\u552f"}}-->

(～)補充：閱覽了一下您的使用者頁面，這裡的「您」是我對閣下的尊敬，畢竟我只是維基新手，是帶有禮貌性的用詞，如有冒犯諸多見諒。吉太小唯（留言） 2018年4月18日 (三) 07:16 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-18T07:16:00.000Z","author":"Shugochara13456","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:16:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T06:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T07:23:00.000Z-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:16:00.000Z","c-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T07:23:00.000Z-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:16:00.000Z-1"],"displayName":"\u5409\u592a\u5c0f\u552f"}}-->

你说的很有道理。但是，事在人为，判例也是实践中做出来的。比如螺钉长期以来一直是这个状态，如果一直放任，结果就是成为一个榜样，让人认为这也是合理的实践。他并不是没有在各种评审中批评过，恰恰相反，他被不少人批评过，但他无视（或者说基本无视，不能断言他完全没有进步）那些意见，仍然能够在不理解并且违背维基百科三大方针的前提下持续活动并且得到一些认可。这就是对其他人的不公平。你可以说，负责任的人，有进取心的人，不管其他人怎么做，都会自己努力做好。但如果只是这么想，社群就没有存在的意义了。社群是让人互相认同，互相帮助的，而不是互相退让，互相无视的。哪怕大家看法不同（各派别维基人），也要认同同一套游戏规则。对于违背规则的人，如果不惩罚，就是鼓励。 --🐕🎈（认错不会死，只会让你进步）※自我禁制，6月前不在DYK投反对票 2018年4月18日 (三) 07:23 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-18T07:23:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T07:23:00.000Z-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:16:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15\ud83c\udf88"}}-->

：不要担心那个“您”字。每个人都有自己的语言用法，同时必须理解他人的用法。好比说我也知道别人叫我“阁下”是礼貌用语，但我不会那样说。你说你是维基新手，我也是。我虽然编辑条目有一阵子了，理解三大方针也就是最近半年的事情，也很少参与互助客栈的讨论，更没有参加什么其他线上线下社群活动。相信我的成长速度并不算快的。做校对仅仅是我兴趣爱好而已。 --🐕🎈（认错不会死，只会让你进步）※自我禁制，6月前不在DYK投反对票 2018年4月18日 (三) 07:23 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-18T07:23:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T07:23:00.000Z-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:16:00.000Z-1","replies":["c-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:38:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T07:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15\ud83c\udf88"}}-->

的確，不能夠完全放任，條目的問題仍要指出，但如您所說，他似乎不願接受指正，而例如我，從旁觀察，會明白哪邊較有問題。如果是較中立的用戶，應該能看出來。每個人在意的點與價值觀不同，就像是我與您也是：我認為對方不接受就算了，您可能認為一定要改正。最重要的還是心平氣和的交談啦，總之，感謝您各方面的貢獻。吉太小唯（留言） 2018年4月18日 (三) 07:38 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-18T07:38:00.000Z","author":"Shugochara13456","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:38:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T07:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T08:15:00.000Z-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:38:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u5409\u592a\u5c0f\u552f"}}-->

@Shugochara13456：我做的并不多。另外，我关心的不是“指出”没有，而是有没有什么变化。我是工程师出身，我认为维基百科是项目，而不是兴趣小组，不是学术论坛。我关心的是有什么结果，而不是有什么努力。如果指出一百次，一百次都没变化，那么不如不要指出。如果期待指出有效果，就要为这个效果而努力。所以我只有两个选择，要么不再指出螺钉的同类问题，乃至不再指出任何人的同类问题，要么就要推动社群完善规则。我理解你说的“心平气和”，但我认为“心平气和”不是必要的，因为这世上总有些人在有些时候，你越心平气和，对方越不在乎你说的是什么。“人不会被说服，除非他们自己想改变。”“人不会因为一件事情对就去做，错就不去做，只会因为喜爱去做，因为恐惧而不去做。”我当然认为一个社群中如果大家都能够讲道理，是最好的，但目前显然并不是这样，那么为了效率，我愿意在特定场合使用诉诸对方的情感而不是仅仅讲道理的方式。（毕竟那么多人都指出过螺钉的问题，可是他依然故我，都不记得别人说了他什么。）算是一种私人正义吧。我知道私人正义不是正义。再有就是我希望拿螺钉的情况做判例。只要社群基于具体例子有具体共识，将来不会让人随便解释，就是好的。社群就有所成长，而不是从鸡群走向鸭群，从鸭群走向牛群，只有大小多少的变化，没有共识和合作上的进步。 --🐕🎈（认错不会死，只会让你进步）※自我禁制，6月前不在DYK投反对票 2018年4月18日 (三) 08:15 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-04-18T08:15:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-04-18T08:15:00.000Z-Shugochara13456-2018-04-18T07:38:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15\ud83c\udf88"}}-->

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一杯咖啡送给您！

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偶然看到阁下的论述，感到很受益。 ——陈宇恒(讨论) 2018年5月9日 (三) 12:39 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-09T12:39:00.000Z","author":"\u9648\u5b87\u6052","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u9648\u5b87\u6052-2018-05-09T12:39:00.000Z-\u4e00\u676f\u5496\u5561\u9001\u7ed9\u60a8\uff01","replies":[]}}-->

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给您的果仁蜜饼！

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感谢你对亚历山德拉·梅泽尔遇害案的校对。 Fxqf（留言） 2018年5月18日 (五) 08:53 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-18T08:53:00.000Z","author":"Fxqf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fxqf-2018-05-18T08:53:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u7684\u679c\u4ec1\u871c\u997c\uff01","replies":[]}}-->

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一隻小貓送給您！

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認真的校對態度值得表揚，希望您不要放棄，加油。

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一杯茶送給您！

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一直以來都辛苦你了。 No1lovesu（留言） 2018年5月25日 (五) 01:31 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-05-25T01:31:00.000Z","author":"No1lovesu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-No1lovesu-2018-05-25T01:31:00.000Z-\u4e00\u676f\u8336\u9001\u7d66\u60a8\uff01_2","replies":[]}}-->

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給您的星章！

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友善星章

拜讀Inufuusen閣下的頁面內容，深感您有相當的體悟與見解，值得後進認真參酌！也感謝您在我提的DYK 6/16候選條目裡大方分享及耐心回饋，還親自操刀協助修正原條目內容，特此感念並贈予閣下一枚「友善星章」以資鳴謝，感恩您～～ Blionpmp（留言） 2018年6月18日 (一) 07:14 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-18T07:14:00.000Z","author":"Blionpmp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Blionpmp-2018-06-18T07:14:00.000Z-\u7d66\u60a8\u7684\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_4","replies":[]}}-->

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给您一个星章！

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	友善星章
	感谢。 10³（留言） 2018年6月24日 (日) 14:38 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-24T14:38:00.000Z","author":"Dimuowosm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dimuowosm-2018-06-24T14:38:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_5","replies":[],"displayName":"10\u00b3"}}-->

顺便对近期经历过的事情发句感想：要解决问题实在不能寄希望于共识，就个人体验，只要你一说话，对面就会用各种方式驳倒你，从无端指责到人身攻击，基本上是说一句话就跑，而且对立双方水平差异无比巨大，一边是贡献达好几百条优良特色的专家大师，一边是连一条新条目推荐都没写过，数十年如一日的为维基百科引入连存在都有争议的内容。记得用户Jarodalien（6+）说过，“很多人觉得维基百科是众人协作什么的，我并没有这种感觉。我还觉得汉语维基百科的所谓讨论，“争取共识”其实是个自欺欺人的说法，要么是要说服他人同意自己的意见，要么是要强迫他人变成“少数”，服从自己的“多数”意见。如果“热心参与讨论”，基本上可以100%地肯定，你就写不成任何条目。要写条目，就得不去理睬别人，埋头写就是了。”真的可以这么说，越无知的人越认为别人越无知。现在看看，外面的世界和里面也没什么差别，什么水平和在哪里无关，随着自己水平的提升，只能会对自己写的东西越来越不满足，越后怕才对。

有时候，可能就是不习惯，认为自己怎么都不被接受或包容，现在想想，有些东西该放手就放手，或许才是好的出路，毕竟已经不是一个频道的了。

说的话可能有点偏激，但是应该也能反映现实吧。--10³（留言） 2018年6月24日 (日) 14:38 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-24T14:38:00.000Z","author":"Dimuowosm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dimuowosm-2018-06-24T14:38:00.000Z-\u7ed9\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_5-1","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-06-25T01:48:00.000Z-Dimuowosm-2018-06-24T14:38:00.000Z"],"displayName":"10\u00b3"}}-->

我以前以为维基百科有社群共识，只是执行上漏洞很多。后来逐渐看了些Wikipedia空间的东西，才发现社群根本就是割裂的，不同的人各行其是，不懂得社群共识的重要。具体就不说啦。之前那个百万条目的时候，我其实都想跳出来说，建议不要庆祝所谓百万条目。社群力量就那么大，过度追求数量等于放弃质量，没有质量，维基百科有什么意义呢。 --🐕🎈（维基百科，免费的百科全书） 2018年6月25日 (一) 01:48 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-25T01:48:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-06-25T01:48:00.000Z-Dimuowosm-2018-06-24T14:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dimuowosm-2018-06-25T10:34:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-06-25T01:48:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->
- 深有同感。能写“出”优良特色的维基百科都找不出几个来，从回退员到行政员，大把大把0优良0特色，比英文百科差远了。现在看着都想当管理员，但是连“破坏”的定义都搞不清。只要是少点东西，破坏；没有理由，破坏；看你不顺眼，破坏。百万条目没感觉，我还在奇怪，怎么能到一百万呢？到底哪个领域有什么条目呢？看热闹就是。--10³（留言） 2018年6月25日 (一) 10:34 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-25T10:34:00.000Z","author":"Dimuowosm","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dimuowosm-2018-06-25T10:34:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-06-25T01:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"10\u00b3"}}-->

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送您一个气球！

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送您一个气球！

向认真的读者致敬！ --大野既潴，东原厎平（如何用各种语言说“维基百科，自由的百科全书”？） 2018年7月30日 (一) 13:26 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-30T13:26:00.000Z","author":"Ngguls","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ngguls-2018-07-30T13:26:00.000Z-\u9001\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u6c14\u7403\uff01","replies":[],"displayName":"\u5927\u91ce"}}-->

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送您一个星章！

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		樱花星章
		觉得这个星章很适合您苞米(☎) 2018年8月9日 (四) 04:17 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-09T04:17:00.000Z","author":"Baomi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Baomi-2018-08-09T04:17:00.000Z-\u9001\u60a8\u4e00\u4e2a\u661f\u7ae0\uff01","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-08-09T04:59:00.000Z-Baomi-2018-08-09T04:17:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u82de\u7c73"}}-->

@Baomi：谢谢。头一次知道还有这种星章。 --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年8月9日 (四) 04:59 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-09T04:59:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-08-09T04:59:00.000Z-Baomi-2018-08-09T04:17:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->

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起司漢堡送給您！

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基佬星章還未製作完成，請先吃個漢堡吧。 No1lovesu（留言） 2018年8月9日 (四) 05:03 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-09T05:03:00.000Z","author":"No1lovesu","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-No1lovesu-2018-08-09T05:03:00.000Z-\u8d77\u53f8\u6f22\u5821\u9001\u7d66\u60a8\uff01","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-08-09T05:04:00.000Z-No1lovesu-2018-08-09T05:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

不用了不用了😂…… --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年8月9日 (四) 05:04 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-09T05:04:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-08-09T05:04:00.000Z-No1lovesu-2018-08-09T05:03:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->

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櫻花星章

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櫻花星章

對閣下的條目受人針對表示慰問。閣下的滿鐵附屬地系列質量皆屬上乘，期待創作更多高品質的作品。奉天神社有打算提GA嗎？ Wikimycota~receptor/genome 2018年8月19日 (日) 18:28 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-19T18:28:00.000Z","author":"\u9756\u5929\u5b50","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-2018-08-19T18:28:00.000Z-\u6afb\u82b1\u661f\u7ae0","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-08-20T01:58:00.000Z-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-2018-08-19T18:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Wikimycota"}}-->

@靖天子：感谢认同。奉天神社暂时不准备提GA。我考虑过，但是手头的资料不够。 --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年8月20日 (一) 01:58 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-20T01:58:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-08-20T01:58:00.000Z-\u9756\u5929\u5b50-2018-08-19T18:28:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->

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給您的星章！

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感謝對於滿洲主題的貢獻

感謝你對於滿洲條目的諸多貢獻於使條目不斷完善之精神。

唯一需要注意的是，因為較多讀者也並非滿族人，建議相關字詞也稍做解釋和定義（以避免“滿洲中心”--開玩笑的）。こいちぼん（留言） 2018年8月28日 (二) 00:16 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-28T00:16:00.000Z","author":"\u3053\u3044\u3061\u307c\u3093","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u3053\u3044\u3061\u307c\u3093-2018-08-28T00:16:00.000Z-\u7d66\u60a8\u7684\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_5","replies":[]}}-->

@こいちぼん：感谢建议。这是我在这个领域初次创建条目，肯定会有较多问题。多谢提出意见。这个有些概念确实需要解释，不只是满洲相关概念的问题，比如你指出的海岸是什么海岸的问题，其实是营口市/盖州市中心的问题。我自己查阅过相关资料并且很久以前去过那里，所以不觉得有些提法难懂，但对大部分读者来说确实应该介绍得更清楚一些。 --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年8月28日 (二) 00:53 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-28T00:53:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T00:53:00.000Z-\u7d66\u60a8\u7684\u661f\u7ae0\uff01_5","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T03:01:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T00:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->

另外补充一句，就算所谓满族人，大部分也是和其他民族一样不了解满族相关文化和历史的。毕竟是一千万人口的户口本民族。 --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年8月28日 (二) 03:01 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-28T03:01:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T03:01:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T00:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-No1lovesu-2018-08-28T03:23:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T03:01:00.000Z","c-\u3053\u3044\u3061\u307c\u3093-2018-08-31T14:22:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T03:01:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->
- 世間大部分人都是吃了睡睡了吃吃了玩，哪有寶貴時間去理會自身或他人的歷史文化這種破事（？）。--No1lovesu（留言） 2018年8月28日 (二) 03:23 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-28T03:23:00.000Z","author":"No1lovesu","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-No1lovesu-2018-08-28T03:23:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T03:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T04:06:00.000Z-No1lovesu-2018-08-28T03:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
  - @No1lovesu：怎么说呢，吃了睡睡了吃吃了玩也不一样。比如说你看看人家图瓦人也是吃了睡睡了吃闲了玩玩，但是人家就有伟大的民族音乐。满族就没有。民族和民族本身就是不一样的。 --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年8月28日 (二) 04:06 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-28T04:06:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T04:06:00.000Z-No1lovesu-2018-08-28T03:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Outlookxp-2018-08-31T08:37:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T04:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->
    - 台灣也是這樣，大部分人也是不了解自身的相關文化和歷史，而只對政治話題樂愛，像我今天抱怨的[2]。--Outlookxp（留言） 2018年8月31日 (五) 08:37 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-31T08:37:00.000Z","author":"Outlookxp","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Outlookxp-2018-08-31T08:37:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T04:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-08-31T09:02:00.000Z-Outlookxp-2018-08-31T08:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
      - @Outlookxp：可能不论何时何地都会有人有那个倾向吧。重要的是有没有人做有建设意义的事。如果人人都只知道消费不知道创造，那么日子肯定是过不下去的。 --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年8月31日 (五) 09:02 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-31T09:02:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-08-31T09:02:00.000Z-Outlookxp-2018-08-31T08:37:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->
- 其实我蛮想知道台湾人对于岛内的政治斗争都是怎么看的。--こいちぼん（留言） 2018年8月31日 (五) 14:22 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-31T14:22:00.000Z","author":"\u3053\u3044\u3061\u307c\u3093","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-\u3053\u3044\u3061\u307c\u3093-2018-08-31T14:22:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-08-28T03:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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送荷式鬆餅給你，甜食有助緩解壓力和平撫情緒。希望閣下平復心情，回歸DYK主題。

至於為何是荷式鬆餅，本人最喜歡的甜食就是牠了（雖然只吃了一次，但立即愛上了，很想再吃一次）
接下來會發出警告模板，以示對WP:POINT的告誡。希望閣下諒解。 だ＊ぜ 𓋹 謹此敬上 2018年9月17日 (一) 05:18 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-17T05:18:00.000Z","author":"\u3060\uff0a\u305c","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u3060\uff0a\u305c-2018-09-17T05:18:00.000Z-\u8377\u5f0f\u9b06\u9905\u9001\u7d66\u60a8\uff01","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-09-17T05:24:00.000Z-\u3060\uff0a\u305c-2018-09-17T05:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u3060"}}-->

该做的事情我还是会做。DYK需要基本的礼仪，看起来社群没有共识，那么只好我去促进共识了。 --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年9月17日 (一) 05:24 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-17T05:24:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-09-17T05:24:00.000Z-\u3060\uff0a\u305c-2018-09-17T05:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-\u3060\uff0a\u305c-2018-09-17T05:28:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-09-17T05:24:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->
- 雖然本人同意閣下看法，也對釘釘發了更高的模板；但始終DYKC不是討論非DYK內容的地方，違反了WP:POINT。還請移師他處（如：討論頁）——だ＊ぜ 𓋹 謹此敬上 2018年9月17日 (一) 05:28 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-17T05:28:00.000Z","author":"\u3060\uff0a\u305c","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-\u3060\uff0a\u305c-2018-09-17T05:28:00.000Z-Inufuusen-2018-09-17T05:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Inufuusen-2018-09-17T05:29:00.000Z-\u3060\uff0a\u305c-2018-09-17T05:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u3060"}}-->
  - 这种问题我不认为是讨论页能解决的。我看只能通过投诉和互助客栈共识解决。 --🐕🎈（实用主义大于天） 2018年9月17日 (一) 05:29 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-17T05:29:00.000Z","author":"Inufuusen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Inufuusen-2018-09-17T05:29:00.000Z-\u3060\uff0a\u305c-2018-09-17T05:28:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc15"}}-->

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