There has been alot of vandalizism on the Eddie Guerrero article as of late, we need protection on it so vandals cant vandalize it anymore. There has been at least 100 cases of vandalizism on it today alone. Oh, and by the way, Rest in Peace, Eddie. — Moe ε 21:51, 13 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-13T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-13T21:51:00.000Z-Eddie_Guerrero","replies":[],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
I was going to propose this earlier, but the unfortunate passing of Eddie Guerrero is proper motivation to get everyone colloborate on the article. Similar to other collaborations, the idea would be to propose an article related to professional wrestling for collaboration to get it close to or at featured article status as possible. The span of time for the collaboration is indefinite - maybe a week or two weeks is enough. At any rate, I'll work on the Eddie Guerrero entry and if anyone else wants to do the same, that would be great. --Jtalledo (talk) 23:11, 13 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-13T23:11:00.000Z","author":"Jtalledo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jtalledo-2005-11-13T23:11:00.000Z-Professional_wrestling_Collaboration_of_the_Moment","replies":["c-Darren_Jowalsen-2005-11-14T01:48:00.000Z-Jtalledo-2005-11-13T23:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
I have an idea surrounding the "Criteria for Notability" problem. Why dont we have a set of guidelines that the criteria must meet. It would keep the majority of the good/notable articles and get rid of the one's that simple say "He/She was a professional wrestler" and will get rid of most stubs. I am throwing this idea out here because I know I added on to the problem with the un-notable wrestlers. I created a couple of the pages I want to delete now. I just want some thoughts to a potential policy we could have. (PS. this policy wouldn't mean they couldn't be mentioned, but they couldn't have thier own article). Any thoughts??? — Moe ε 01:02, 18 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-18T01:02:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-18T01:02:00.000Z-Criteria_for_Notability_2","replies":[],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
Possible Policy:
1. The wrestler must have wrestled or currently be wrestling in one of the top-promotions in order to have it's own article:
--OR-- 2. The wrestler must be listed under PWI 500 best singles competitors in order for him/her to have thier own article.
Micheals article is in need of clean up and sectioning off in its World Wrestling Entertainment career section... large chunk of which is just about his short fued with Hulk Hogan --- R.I.P EG Paulley 13:22, 18 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-18T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Paulley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paulley-2005-11-18T13:22:00.000Z-Shawn_Micheals","replies":[]}}-->
I spent about an hour trying to make the Arn Anderson page look better. See the previous version before and after. — Moe ε 18:32, 19 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-19T18:32:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-19T18:32:00.000Z-Arn_Anderson","replies":[],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
There was an articlle recently created by an anon user called Alex Greenfield. It's sort of pro wrestling related since he is currently contracted to WWE but he's contracted as a member of the creative team, as you can see on the WWE roster list. I think it should be deleted. — Moe ε 22:39, 19 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-19T22:39:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-19T22:39:00.000Z-Alex_Greenfield","replies":[],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
Would it be a good idea to add a section to every wrestler article listing the games in which that wrestler has appeared? Here's an example for Ric Flair:
Alternatively, we could do a table with two columns (which would take less vertical room). Jeff Silvers 03:18, 20 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-20T03:18:00.000Z","author":"Jeff Silvers","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jeff_Silvers-2005-11-20T03:18:00.000Z-Video_game_lists?","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-20T18:06:00.000Z-Jeff_Silvers-2005-11-20T03:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
Is anyone else in favour of simply deleting this article? It's still a stub after one year, and the article seems to frequently be an arena for edit wars between people with vendettas against one another. McPhail 22:24, 23 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-23T22:24:00.000Z","author":"McPhail","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-McPhail-2005-11-23T22:24:00.000Z-Rec.sport.pro-wrestling","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-23T23:17:00.000Z-McPhail-2005-11-23T22:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
This user has been adding fallacious personal life stories to various articles, and has invented a character named "Kimberly McMahon-Angle" who they appear determined to interject into factual articles. Needless to say, this should be reverted whenever it occurs. McPhail 17:45, 24 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-24T17:45:00.000Z","author":"McPhail","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-McPhail-2005-11-24T17:45:00.000Z-194.111.49.152","replies":[]}}-->
Much like tag teams and stables list on the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling roster, I created one for the Current World Wrestling Entertainment roster. It is located under all the rosters and the inactive list. It lists the major tag teams and stables, and if major, managers to wrestlers. Example: The SmackDown! teams and stables has:
Of course the SmackDown! teams and stables have more than just these three teams but, how does this format look? — Moe ε 04:22, 25 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-25T04:22:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-25T04:22:00.000Z-Tag_Teams_and_Stables","replies":["c-Lakes-2005-11-25T06:21:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-25T04:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
Can you guys help me clear up something... since Juventud has appeared on WWE tv four different moves (which he has been using to pick up wins) have been credited as the Juvi Driver, first it was a Pumphandle sitout facebuster, then it was a Michinoku Driver II, while in England it was a sitout front powerslam and on the heat before Survivour Series it was a Half nelson driver.... and i actually thought the Juvi Driver was a Double underhook piledriver. Does anyone know which is right???? --- Paulley 16:04, 28 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-28T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Paulley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paulley-2005-11-28T16:04:00.000Z-Juvi_Driver","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-28T21:05:00.000Z-Paulley-2005-11-28T16:04:00.000Z","c-Paulley-2005-11-29T15:04:00.000Z-Paulley-2005-11-28T16:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
I was just wondering, when I go and create succession boxes for the Mexican, well mostly Mexican, professional wrestlers, can I tone down the size of the Luchas de Apuestas Records a little to the:
The other sections we could probably cut off are the Where it took place and the date that it happened sections. When it happened and where it took place doesn't seem all that important. Any comments? — Moe ε 01:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-11-30T01:18:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-30T01:18:00.000Z-Luchas_de_Apuestas_Records","replies":["c-Darren_Jowalsen-2005-11-30T02:43:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-30T01:18:00.000Z","c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-30T22:10:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2005-11-30T01:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
I found this today, i think we need to stop it before it gets out of hand... --- Paulley 16:29, 8 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-08T16:29:00.000Z","author":"Paulley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paulley-2005-12-08T16:29:00.000Z-WWE_SmackDown!_results","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-08T18:00:00.000Z-Paulley-2005-12-08T16:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
Seeing that there are a lot of references to the brand extension but not a lot on the brand extension itself, I've created WWE Brand Extension for this purpose. It's not really that fleshed out, so I'd like the Wikipedia pro wrestling community to help improve this. kelvSYC 07:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-09T07:44:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2005-12-09T07:44:00.000Z-Brand_extension_article","replies":["c-Oakster-2005-12-10T12:26:00.000Z-KelvSYC-2005-12-09T07:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Someone created a page about the WWE Federation Championship to witch I think is pretty dumb since we aready have a WWE Championship Page. So I propose we delete this page.
BionicWilliam 07:29, 11 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-11T07:29:00.000Z","author":"BionicWilliam","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BionicWilliam-2005-12-11T07:29:00.000Z-WWE_Federation_Championship","replies":["c-Paulley-2005-12-11T13:11:00.000Z-BionicWilliam-2005-12-11T07:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
Just to let you guys know, I've just started working on an article about the Tribute to the Troops shows. I believe as the troop visits have been going for its third year now, it's pretty notable to be included as an article. So far right now, it just has the basic results but I'm going to expand it in the next few days to include details of the actual tour that on and off screen such as stuff like Mick Foley's recent meeting with the young boy in Afghanistan. --Oakster 23:31, 14 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-14T23:31:00.000Z","author":"Oakster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Oakster-2005-12-14T23:31:00.000Z-Tribute_to_the_Troops","replies":["c-Jtalledo-2005-12-15T00:34:00.000Z-Oakster-2005-12-14T23:31:00.000Z","c-Essexmutant-2005-12-23T12:40:00.000Z-Oakster-2005-12-14T23:31:00.000Z","c-Edraf-2006-01-16T09:57:00.000Z-Oakster-2005-12-14T23:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
Bob Roop was the top of the most requested article list, so I started it, but it needs work to bring it into consistency with the other articles on wrestlers. As this is not my area of expertise, I am posting this plea for some assistance - thank you much! KillerChihuahua?!? 00:59, 16 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-16T00:59:00.000Z","author":"KillerChihuahua","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KillerChihuahua-2005-12-16T00:59:00.000Z-Request_for_Assistance","replies":["c-Jtalledo-2005-12-16T04:49:00.000Z-KillerChihuahua-2005-12-16T00:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
Moving this to Talk:Bob Roop talk page for article - replying to Lake there. KillerChihuahua?!? 12:09, 16 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-16T12:09:00.000Z","author":"KillerChihuahua","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KillerChihuahua-2005-12-16T12:09:00.000Z-Request_for_Assistance","replies":[]}}-->
i have been reverting bad edits by this user, he seems intent to change wrestler stats and remove signature moves and add general ones --- Paulley 17:02, 16 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-16T17:02:00.000Z","author":"Paulley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paulley-2005-12-16T17:02:00.000Z-User:221.135.229.166","replies":[]}}-->
A lot of people have put cruft such as one-off tournaments and other specifics when the article deals with generalities. I propose we add a notability criterion to what is in and what is not - see Talk:Professional wrestling match types#Notability criteria for inclusion for details and feedback. kelvSYC 05:06, 17 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-17T05:06:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2005-12-17T05:06:00.000Z-List_of_professional_wrestling_match_types_cleanup","replies":[]}}-->
I have a question for everyone, on the Randy Orton article, do you think that the list of people that Randy Orton gave the RKO of encyclopedic value? If not, I think should be removed. — Moe ε 00:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-20T00:22:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-20T00:22:00.000Z-RKO_list","replies":["c-Lbmixpro-2005-12-23T12:15:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-20T00:22:00.000Z","c-Essexmutant-2005-12-23T12:26:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-20T00:22:00.000Z","c-Lil_crazy_thing-2005-12-23T15:24:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-20T00:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
I was just wondering if it's any use recategorising images from Category:Professional wrestling media into subcategories such as Category:Professional wrestler media, Category:Professional wrestling logo and poster media, Category:Professional wrestling belt media, Category:Professional wrestling game media? It might help sorting out problems concerning images better such as those that are orphaned. --Oakster 23:24, 20 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-20T23:24:00.000Z","author":"Oakster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Oakster-2005-12-20T23:24:00.000Z-Reorganising_the_professional_wrestling_media_category","replies":[]}}-->
WOW! This is probably the most shocking thing I have ever seen! A Pro Wrestling WikiCity. Although, everything on this page is less than impressive. The Wikipedia Wikiproject we got here is more populated than over there. I clicked the Recent Changes button and there was not ONE EDIT in over the past 30 DAYS. Which is an understatement because I belive no one has visited the Wikicity since AUGUST. I looked through the history of a lot of articles to find that there was only red-linked users, meaning they never created a user page, and a few anons that visted the site. The Current WWE roster hasn't been updated since August. That place is the biggest mess I have ever seen. Do we want to do anything about this? I think it would be a shame if we loose a whole Wikicity. — Moe ε 01:06, 23 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-23T01:06:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-23T01:06:00.000Z-Pro_Wrestling_Wikicity","replies":["c-KillerChihuahua-2005-12-23T12:38:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-23T01:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
Would anyone else be in favour of creating categories such as "ECW alumni"? It could be added to all the wrestlers in List of ECW wrestlers. McPhail 18:03, 23 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-23T18:03:00.000Z","author":"McPhail","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-McPhail-2005-12-23T18:03:00.000Z-Proposed_categories","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-23T19:13:00.000Z-McPhail-2005-12-23T18:03:00.000Z","c-Moe_Epsilon-2005-12-24T02:31:00.000Z-McPhail-2005-12-23T18:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
Is anyone else opposed to this? I have added to the ring name article, giving more of an explanation and history for the practice. - Chadbryant 11:03, 24 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-24T11:03:00.000Z","author":"Chadbryant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chadbryant-2005-12-24T11:03:00.000Z-Substituting_ring_name_for_stage_name_in_wrestler_entries","replies":["c-Lakes-2005-12-24T13:29:00.000Z-Chadbryant-2005-12-24T11:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
I edited the wrestler infobox to include "Ring Name(s)" instead of "Stage name(s)". - Chadbryant 15:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-26T15:38:00.000Z","author":"Chadbryant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chadbryant-2005-12-26T15:38:00.000Z-Substituting_ring_name_for_stage_name_in_wrestler_entries","replies":[]}}-->
Given that William Moody uses the name "Percy Pringle" professionally, I would surmise that this article would be better listed under that name, to eliminate the need for the disambiguation page at William Moody. I moved the content there once before, but it was reverted with "vandal" incorrectly given as the reason. Thoughts? - Chadbryant 17:58, 28 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-28T17:58:00.000Z","author":"Chadbryant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chadbryant-2005-12-28T17:58:00.000Z-Moving_to_William_Moody_(wrestler)_to_Percy_Pringle","replies":["c-McPhail-2005-12-28T18:01:00.000Z-Chadbryant-2005-12-28T17:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
Just a heads up to make sure that no one updates the Smackdown tag team title champions until after it airs in the US. Also, if someone does change it, revert it back to Batista and Rey until after the show airs. I'm sure you all know that anyways, just a heads up. SFrank85 20:33, 28 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-28T20:33:00.000Z","author":"SFrank85","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SFrank85-2005-12-28T20:33:00.000Z-Smackdown_tag_titles","replies":["c-Chadbryant-2005-12-28T21:10:00.000Z-SFrank85-2005-12-28T20:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
The current WWE Tag Team Championship on SmackDown! is the new version that was created by Stephanie McMahon. The World Tag Team Championships on RAW is the old WWE Tag Titles. The title lineage continued dispite the creation of the new WWE tag team titles on SmackDown. The RAW tag titles just had the name changed, which I don't know why they would just call the new SmackDown titles the World Tag Team Titles, I suppose you would have to ask WWE that.SFrank85 22:23, 28 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-28T22:23:00.000Z","author":"SFrank85","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SFrank85-2005-12-28T22:23:00.000Z-Smackdown_tag_titles","replies":["c-Chadbryant-2005-12-28T22:35:00.000Z-SFrank85-2005-12-28T22:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
I agree, however it is the WWE's way of thinking, and sometimes it's haed to know what they are thinking if you know what I'm saying ;) SFrank85 01:14, 29 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-29T01:14:00.000Z","author":"SFrank85","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SFrank85-2005-12-29T01:14:00.000Z-Smackdown_tag_titles","replies":[]}}-->
The general consensus is that the WWE Tag Team Championship is the newer belt, and that the World Tag Team Championship is the older belt, due to any number of factors including name shortening (from "WWE World Tag Team Championship" to just "World Tag Team Championship", akin to how "WWF World Heavyweight Championship" eventually was referred to as the "WWE Championship"), emphasis on building the credibility of the World Heavyweight Championship as a top title.
If you recall correctly, in the first draft, the tag champions (Billy and Chuck) were drafted to Smackdown! (the tag champs were show-exclusive), and were moved to Raw (with Lance Storm and Christian) in an "open competition period". The period ended with Lesnar being SD-exclusive while the tag belts were on Raw, giving the Raw belts the lineage. The subsequent naming of the new tag titles as "WWE Tag Team Championship" may be to be consistent with the heavyweight belt, to give it instant credibility, or any number of other factors (I don't remember - perhaps the name was even given de facto and there remains no official name for it...) kelvSYC 06:06, 9 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-09T06:06:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2006-01-09T06:06:00.000Z-Smackdown_tag_titles","replies":[]}}-->
Given the fact that there have been several titles throughout wrestling history to have used this name, and that WWE's version certainly isn't the first, I would propose that a move be considered of the current article located at World Heavyweight Championship to World Heavyweight Championship (WWE). The latter article name/location would thus be reserved for an article detailing the history and evolution of the World Heavyweight Championship concept. Thoughts and constructive input would be greatly appreciated. - Chadbryant 22:58, 28 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-28T22:58:00.000Z","author":"Chadbryant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chadbryant-2005-12-28T22:58:00.000Z-World_Heavyweight_Championship","replies":["c-McPhail-2005-12-28T23:46:00.000Z-Chadbryant-2005-12-28T22:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
The only other World Heavyweight Championship that was actually called that was the original versions, held by George Hackenschmidt in 1905 and Frank Gotch before it became knowen as the NWA World Heavyweight Championship in 1948.SFrank85 01:06, 29 December 2005 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-12-29T01:06:00.000Z","author":"SFrank85","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SFrank85-2005-12-29T01:06:00.000Z-World_Heavyweight_Championship","replies":["c-Chadbryant-2005-12-29T06:00:00.000Z-SFrank85-2005-12-29T01:06:00.000Z","c-Chadbryant-2006-01-06T20:30:00.000Z-SFrank85-2005-12-29T01:06:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've just noticed List of NWA World Heavyweight Champions and I believe a lot of the stuff included in that article about belt lineage is probabily more suitable for the new World Heavyweight Championship article. Is there any chance someone could try to sort this out? --Oakster 23:05, 11 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-11T23:05:00.000Z","author":"Oakster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Oakster-2006-01-11T23:05:00.000Z-World_Heavyweight_Championship","replies":[]}}-->
There should be one. WillC 00:33, 3 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-03T00:33:00.000Z","author":"WillC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WillC-2006-01-03T00:33:00.000Z-Category_for_wrestling_venues","replies":[]}}-->
The article on DDP notes that he uses the name Dallas Page on his SAG and AFTRA cards. Given the fact that most (if not all) SAG/AFTRA members are listed on Wikipedia under their card name, it seems logical to list his article under Dallas Page instead of Page Falkenberg. Thoughts? - Chadbryant 19:35, 3 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-03T19:35:00.000Z","author":"Chadbryant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chadbryant-2006-01-03T19:35:00.000Z-Moving_Page_Falkenberg_to_Dallas_Page","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-04T02:16:00.000Z-Chadbryant-2006-01-03T19:35:00.000Z"]}}-->
::::::Can you CITE at least one occassion when it happened? I could say that I recall hearing coal mines were bad "multiple times" but that wouldn't make me a bad person for not trying to have the mines in West Virginia shut down. - Owen Stevenson 01:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-05T01:15:00.000Z","author":"Owen Stevenson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owen_Stevenson-2006-01-05T01:15:00.000Z-Moving_Page_Falkenberg_to_Dallas_Page","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-04T23:42:00.000Z-Owen_Stevenson-2006-01-05T01:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
:::::I think that 'Diamond Dallas Page' should be the usable entry. After all, the Google search cited proves that an Internet usage of the search is more or less what DDP is found within; otherwise, it could become too confusing, and, as you mentioned, piss off the newbies. - Owen Stevenson 01:15, 5 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-05T01:15:00.000Z","author":"Owen Stevenson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Owen_Stevenson-2006-01-05T01:15:00.000Z-Moving_Page_Falkenberg_to_Dallas_Page-1","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-05T03:05:00.000Z-Owen_Stevenson-2006-01-05T01:15:00.000Z","c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-05T03:11:00.000Z-Owen_Stevenson-2006-01-05T01:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
The problem is that although Page is typically known as "Diamond" Dallas Page, it seems pretty clear that "Diamond" is a nickname portion, along the lines of "The Nature Boy" Ric Flair or "The Phoenomenal" A. J. Styles. The move should be made as no one in the industry refers to him as Falkenberg. It shouldn't be controversial as numerous other wrestling talent have articles under their most popular screen names: Stone Cold Steve Austin, etc. kelvSYC 05:54, 9 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-09T05:54:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2006-01-09T05:54:00.000Z-Moving_Page_Falkenberg_to_Dallas_Page","replies":["c-Chadbryant-2006-01-09T14:07:00.000Z-KelvSYC-2006-01-09T05:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hey, I was recently known as Terry 3k, but I lost my other account so I am now Terry 4k.
Hello! Moe Epsilon invited me to join.
I was the mastermind behind Template:TNA-photo, and helped to make the format behind the Total Nonstop Action Wrestling pay-per-view event pages uniform. I also began creating the monthly results pages for TNA Impact!
What I would like to contribute is the thought of creating a universal, uniform format for describing individual pay-per-view events. Of course it does not have to be how I do it right now, I'd be glad to accept input from others.
Anyway, I hope to be of assistance to the project. Thanks! --Kitch (talk · contribs), 22:57, 4 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T22:57:00.000Z","author":"Kitch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kitch-2006-01-04T22:57:00.000Z-Kitch_says_Hello!","replies":[]}}-->
PS: As a sidenote, I did the RAW is Owen article, and later modified it to the same format that I use for my TNA articles. --Kitch (talk · contribs), 23:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-04T23:05:00.000Z","author":"Kitch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kitch-2006-01-04T23:05:00.000Z-Kitch_says_Hello!","replies":["c-Oakster-2006-01-04T23:42:00.000Z-Kitch-2006-01-04T23:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
There is an ongoing dispute over whether to include a "rumors" section in this article. I don't think it should be included in line with the Wikipedia is not a crystal ball policy. It would be helpful if other editors could give their opinions. McPhail 20:17, 5 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-05T20:17:00.000Z","author":"McPhail","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-McPhail-2006-01-05T20:17:00.000Z-WrestleMania_22","replies":["c-Oakster-2006-01-05T22:28:00.000Z-McPhail-2006-01-05T20:17:00.000Z","c-Chadbryant-2006-01-05T22:39:00.000Z-McPhail-2006-01-05T20:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
::I disagree -- a "rumors" section would let people decide for themselves on whether or not they are/were legitimate. I don't see it becoming the [[National Enquirer] as I do rec.sport.pro-wrestling. - 166.102.104.20 22:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-05T22:59:00.000Z","author":"166.102.104.20","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-166.102.104.20-2006-01-05T22:59:00.000Z-WrestleMania_22","replies":["c-Chadbryant-2006-01-05T23:19:00.000Z-166.102.104.20-2006-01-05T22:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
::::Baseless accusations of names are not wanted on Wikipedia, Chad Bryant. - One Of Us 00:20, 6 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-06T00:20:00.000Z","author":"One Of Us","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-One_Of_Us-2006-01-06T00:20:00.000Z-WrestleMania_22","replies":["c-SFrank85-2006-01-06T00:24:00.000Z-One_Of_Us-2006-01-06T00:20:00.000Z","c-SFrank85-2006-01-06T00:45:00.000Z-One_Of_Us-2006-01-06T00:20:00.000Z","c-Essexmutant-2006-01-06T10:02:00.000Z-One_Of_Us-2006-01-06T00:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
We have an Infobox for a singles wrestler which works well enough, but what about those Tag Teams which deserve their own entry?
I don't know quite how to make them, but it would need a way to list all the members stats (height, weight, etc) and keep them seperate. Putting multiple boxes on one page could clutter something like the Demolition page (which has three). Any ideas?Bdve 23:59, 5 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-05T23:59:00.000Z","author":"Bdve","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bdve-2006-01-05T23:59:00.000Z-Tag_Team_infobox?","replies":["c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-06T01:30:00.000Z-Bdve-2006-01-05T23:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
Congrats to this project for getting 50 members! — Moe ε 01:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-06T01:30:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-06T01:30:00.000Z-Members","replies":[],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
As I'm working on a few pay-per-view articles, I was just wondering about the actual lengths of the matches. I'm not the only person to include times but I don't think we all have the same source for the time (for those wondering, I'm using WIA). So I'm proposing we have an "official" source for match lengths that we can work with just to keep articles in sync with each other. --Oakster 22:46, 9 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-09T22:46:00.000Z","author":"Oakster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Oakster-2006-01-09T22:46:00.000Z-Match_times","replies":[]}}-->
I've been putting infoboxes and Wikiquote links on a lot of pages, including Super Crazy and Nidia. I tried to put one on Psicosis, but it didn't look right without a picture. Does anyone have one? -Web kai2000 22:42, 10 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-10T22:42:00.000Z","author":"Web kai2000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Web_kai2000-2006-01-10T22:42:00.000Z-Infoboxes","replies":["c-Oakster-2006-01-11T15:24:00.000Z-Web_kai2000-2006-01-10T22:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
Has anyone considered it odd how the US title and the WHC were both determined in the same show, yet the WHC officially changed hands on January 10, 2006, the night of the taping, and the US title officially changed hands January 13, 2006, the night of the show (as evidence by WWE's website claiming Angle to be WHC and the US title vacant in the span between Tuesday and Friday)? What would be the policy on the date that titles change belts? This could set a new precedent with regards to how we keep track of the date of title changes here... kelvSYC 07:15, 11 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-11T07:15:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2006-01-11T07:15:00.000Z-The_new_title_change","replies":["c-Oakster-2006-01-11T09:33:00.000Z-KelvSYC-2006-01-11T07:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
There has been some problems lately concerning images on the pro wrestling articles. I think we should make a seperate sub-page for pro wrestling related images so we know when somethings been changed. Some common problems with the images are:
I think a gallery sub-page would be a great way to monitor these actions and take care of them on-site. — Moe ε 00:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-13T00:32:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-13T00:32:00.000Z-Images","replies":[],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
Hey, today I uploaded a few images and put them into wrestler profiles -- specifically, Cassidy Riley, Johnny Devine, and Jerrelle Clark. These are all from the TNApics website, and I used that template for the copyright info. Can a veteran take a look at these and see if they're up to code? If so, I'll carry on and add some more. If not, I'll go back and fix whatever needs it. (While I was at it, I transferred Clark's profile into an infobox! Wow!) --Karl Freske 01:29, 13 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-13T01:29:00.000Z","author":"Karl Freske","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Karl_Freske-2006-01-13T01:29:00.000Z-I'm_new_to_this_--_howdy!","replies":["c-Oakster-2006-01-13T13:27:00.000Z-Karl_Freske-2006-01-13T01:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
As the project on professional wrestling, the project's members should dictate the category structure within Category:Professional wrestling. Besides a few minor subcategory rule (articles only in the most specific categories whenever possible) violations, things are reasonable the way things are, however I like to make a few recommendations:
As this is a lot of work, I'd like the community to debate about whether to move forward with these proposals rather than unilateral action and facing the response of the community. kelvSYC 03:51, 13 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-13T03:51:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2006-01-13T03:51:00.000Z-Category_structure","replies":[]}}-->
Most professional wrestlers are arguably better known by their ring names than their real names. Then why are wrestler articles put under their real names, contrary to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (people)? It states there The most used name to refer to a person is generally the one that Wikipedia will choose as page name, even if this sounds awkward for those seeing the name the first time. Fans of WWE would generally not refer to The Undertaker by "Calaway", real name or not, and thus it should be moved to its redirect at The Undertaker, for instance.
Personally, redirects are often okay for the most part (say, as a temporary solution), but then editors at this project simply pipe off links that go to the redirect article so that it goes to the original article instead (eg. Triple H, which is a redirect article to his real name. See how fast someone pipes this last link off to whatever his real name is), making a redirect largely redundant.
Of course, not every wrestler article is this way - after all, WP:NC (P) does cite BG James as an example, however, the community here are largely ignoring these conventions for whatever reason, and this needs to be addressed. kelvSYC 04:11, 13 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-13T04:11:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2006-01-13T04:11:00.000Z-Wrestler_article_naming_contrary_to_conventions","replies":["c-McPhail-2006-01-13T18:17:00.000Z-KelvSYC-2006-01-13T04:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
The subject of the article is the professional wrestler, not the character(s) portrayed therein. The wrestler is notable
Triple H leaving WWE? That's absurd! Back on topic, we should have some good criteria for whether ring names are preferred. I propose the following, given in order of precedence:
So we should have
Either will work for Dave Bautista or Gene Snitsky.
Of course, there are still a bunch of outstanding issues (eg. WWE uses ring names in kayfabe works, while it uses real names for non-kayfabe news). I think that in general, we should follow kayfabe like we do in other ventures (titles, storylines) rather than go up against it. kelvSYC 19:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-13T19:08:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2006-01-13T19:08:00.000Z-Wrestler_article_naming_contrary_to_conventions","replies":["c-Karl_Freske-2006-01-13T23:55:00.000Z-KelvSYC-2006-01-13T19:08:00.000Z"]}}-->
An example is, for one, Mark Copani moving to Muhammed Hassan. The Hassan character, more than likely, will never be used again. I don't see any of these proposals passing except, maybe, Mark Calaway moving to The Undertaker. The others are fine the way they are named. — Moe ε 02:35, 14 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-14T02:35:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-14T02:35:00.000Z-Wrestler_article_naming_contrary_to_conventions","replies":["c-KelvSYC-2006-01-14T16:10:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-14T02:35:00.000Z","c-Chadbryant-2006-01-14T21:27:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-14T02:35:00.000Z","c-Paulley-2006-01-15T14:03:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-14T02:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
... i could go on and on
An anonymous user (User:12.73.195.46) made a lot of changes to the Harley Race article, labeling it and most other wrestler bio articles "extensive fancruft" and that an extensive review of wrestler articles should be conducted. His changes consisted of rewording statements like "Harley Race won the NWA Championship" to "Harley Race was scripted to take on the role of NWA champion" and whatnot. I reverted his changes for now, since I believe its previous content is not only better but more consistent with other wrestler articles. I think the issue could be better solved by placing a disclaimer on wrestler bio pages, such as the one already on the Stephanie McMahon-Levesque page, stating that wrestling career events referred to are within kayfabe. However, since the user alleges that all wrestler articles are part of the problem, I felt I should bring it up here. --Chrysaor 04:40, 14 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-14T04:40:00.000Z","author":"Chrysaor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chrysaor-2006-01-14T04:40:00.000Z-\"Fancruft\"_in_wrestler_bios","replies":[]}}-->
That should not be necessary, due to a number of other factors:
Obviously, the user does not see that, by detailing the history of kayfabe events, we are implying that some of it is scripted to happen. Furthermore, by making these changes, he introduces factual inaccuracy, which is fair ground for a revert. kelvSYC 16:22, 14 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-14T16:22:00.000Z","author":"KelvSYC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KelvSYC-2006-01-14T16:22:00.000Z-\"Fancruft\"_in_wrestler_bios","replies":["c-HeartBurn_Kid-2006-01-15T04:03:00.000Z-KelvSYC-2006-01-14T16:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
This article has a notice on it which says, "This article contains information that has not been verified and thus might not be reliable. If you are familiar with the subject matter, please check the article for inaccuracies and modify as needed, citing sources." Now, I have a tape of that particular show sitting in front of me right this very second, so I can verify this information easily enough. My question is, how does one cite a source like this? I've poked around some other articles and don't see anything that applies. --Karl Freske 13:11, 15 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-15T13:11:00.000Z","author":"Karl Freske","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Karl_Freske-2006-01-15T13:11:00.000Z-\"Verifying\"_Events_(re:_Team_Britain)","replies":["c-Chrysaor-2006-01-15T19:16:00.000Z-Karl_Freske-2006-01-15T13:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
The reason is that pre-80's article's are to 80's to the Present bias in that the WWE artical passes over a 20-30 year gap pretty fast. I have almost no pre-1993 wrestling knowledge since that is at what time I became a wrestling fan. Therefore if anyone else can help with the expansion so be it. BionicWilliam 06:45, 16 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-16T06:45:00.000Z","author":"BionicWilliam","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BionicWilliam-2006-01-16T06:45:00.000Z-I_request_expansion_of_the_Pre_80's_articals","replies":[]}}-->
I made a huge change to the Current World Wrestling Entertainment roster as I grouped up the entire RAW, SmackDown!, etc. brands together rather than scattering it around the entire page in sections. I also divided the inactive list to their respective brands and same with the Stables and Tag Teams. One other big change was the heading at the top of each brand. Rather than Monday Night RAW at the top, now it's RAW brand. I made that change because Monday NIght RAW is the name of the TV show rather than the brand. Can I get an opinion on how it looks? — Moe ε 17:07, 16 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-16T17:07:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-16T17:07:00.000Z-Current_World_Wrestling_Entertainment_roster","replies":["c-Tv316-2006-01-16T20:48:00.000Z-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-16T17:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
I suggest we the users copy or move all of the Professional Wrestling Articles over to the Wikicity and keep them both updated. I think that is the essence and legacy of the WikiProject Professional wrestling is to attempt to build a comprehensive and detailed guide to professional wrestling on both Wikipedia & Wikicity. Or at least it should be. :) BionicWilliam 21:35, 17 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-17T21:35:00.000Z","author":"BionicWilliam","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BionicWilliam-2006-01-17T21:35:00.000Z-Pro_Wrestling_Wikicity_Part_2","replies":[]}}-->
On another note, please everyone, don't copy and paste articles from Wikipedia to the WikiCity. The WikiCity is not going to be an encyclopedia. It is an encyclopedia, in a sense, but not like our articles on Wikipedia that lists weekly events and histories of that wrestler. — Moe ε 22:57, 17 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-17T22:57:00.000Z","author":"Moe Epsilon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Moe_Epsilon-2006-01-17T22:57:00.000Z-Pro_Wrestling_Wikicity_Part_2","replies":[],"displayName":"Moe"}}-->
I'm still fairly new to Wikipedia, so I'm still not sure if this is possible. Is there a way to group all Pro Wrestling pages on Wikipedia into a group that can be easily accessed? I know we have categories for various things in Pro Wrestling, but is there a way to bunch all the Pro Wrestling pages on a Special page with some script or something to sort of have a group watchlist for Pro Wrestling. Anyone can view the watchlist page and it gets automatically updated every few seconds to note any changes and so vandalism can be taken care of quickly. I ask this because I only have approximately 200 pages on my watchlist and I'm sure I don't even have 1% of all the wrestling related articles on Wikipedia. It would be nice to have a watchlist for them all instead of having to go to a ton of pages and adding them one by one to a personal watchlist. tv316 21:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-17T21:45:00.000Z","author":"Tv316","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tv316-2006-01-17T21:45:00.000Z-All_Pro_Wrestling_Pages_on_Wikipedia","replies":["c-Toffile-2006-01-18T05:40:00.000Z-Tv316-2006-01-17T21:45:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi, I suggest adding songs produced by WWE in the "Music in professional wrestling." article. because I noticed that the PPV's in the past had their theme songs produced by the WWE. Like for example, WWE Judgement Day of 2004 theme song was called "Tenderloin" and it was produced by WWE. Edraf 07:25, 18 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-18T07:25:00.000Z","author":"Edraf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Edraf-2006-01-18T07:25:00.000Z-WWE_produced_songs","replies":[]}}-->
does anyone remember wwf new york/wwe new york/ the world open from 99 to 03 maybee in times square... not mentioned anywhere -ben
It's given a short mention here, but it could probably do with an expansion and maybe it's own article. Bdve 21:08, 20 January 2006 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-01-20T21:08:00.000Z","author":"Bdve","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bdve-2006-01-20T21:08:00.000Z-WWE_NEW_YORK","replies":[]}}-->
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