Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Electronic music

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Updates to DJ Rush

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Hi, I was looking through the pages listed as part of this project and saw this one needed working on- I think that's been the case for some years, and I found some recent much more in depth articles on DJ Rush that will help with the old notability issues. So I'll use them to update the page and maybe take out some of the old info that still doesn't have citations backing it up. When I've overhauled it a bit more I'll ask again here for opinions on notability and if it's ready for the tag to be removed. Thanks all. Editing84 (talk) 13:04, 1 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231201130400","author":"Editing84","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Editing84-20231201130400-Updates_to_DJ_Rush","replies":["c-Editing84-20231219162500-Editing84-20231201130400"]}}-->

I've made a number of changes to the article, structurally and adding info from the more up to date and notable sources. It still needs working on over time- it's not in the best shape in terms of how it reads and I've added a couple of citations needed tags, but maybe those points could just be deleted instead- but for now I think the notability issues notice at the top can be removed? It has better sources behind it now. I'll continue to make tweaks when I can in the meantime. Editing84 (talk) 16:25, 19 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231219162500","author":"Editing84","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Editing84-20231219162500-Editing84-20231201130400","replies":["c-Pdubs.94-20240127061600-Editing84-20231219162500"]}}-->
there are a few key points i see that might be good to take into consideration as you continue to improve this article:
  • there are several sources being used multiple times. one particular source is used 8 times. it would be better to find more sources supporting what is covered in this article to help balance things out.
  • citing Discogs is in conflict with WP:RELIABLE (see this WikiProject page for details on why Discog is not reliable)
  • Is laut.de is a reliable source
  • i think citing video footage of him performing in euro goes against WP:VIDEOREF. the "Performances" section could be covered under the "Career" section and does not require a subcategory.
  • many links are for articles not created yet, going against WP:WTAF
  • the lead mentions him as playing a "significant" role in the early chicago scene. only one article appears to hint at this, but i don't know if it truly defines why. i think this should either better supported, or removed.
  • there are some claims needing additional citation (pioneer of hard techno?)
  • external links should be per WP:ELMINOFFICIAL - i have addressed this
with the above in mind, i'm going to make a few changes to kick things off. let me know if you want anyone to take another pass at it Pdubs.94 (talk) 06:16, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240127061600","author":"Pdubs.94","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pdubs.94-20240127061600-Editing84-20231219162500","replies":["c-Editing84-20240127104100-Pdubs.94-20240127061600"]}}-->
Thank you! Yes definitely agree there are still a few of the sources from before that need to be removed, I haven't weeded all of those out- and the ones you mention can definitely go. I take the point about there perhaps needing to be more explanation over him playing a significant role in the scene, I did read the Beatportal article as an explanation why- this point about him being a key part of the new phase of Chicago House after the original pioneers had faded out, from kickstarting Gaucho and the dance crew battles. But yes it maybe doesn't go into too much detail, and actually maybe there's an element of him labelling himself as being significant. Or the author agreeing but not fully explaining why.
I don't know why there are so many red links, so yes definitely seems like they can be stripped out...
Thanks again for taking a look at this. Editing84 (talk) 10:41, 27 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240127104100","author":"Editing84","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Editing84-20240127104100-Pdubs.94-20240127061600","replies":[]}}-->
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Does the scope of the electronic music project include industry focused pages?

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Hey all,

Been doing little bits of editing as part of this project only recently, after stumbling across the DJ Rush page. Appreciate this is a semi-active project so I'm not necessarily expecting a response. But I wondered if industry focused electronic music pages would count as being part of this project? I have been re-drafting a page on the PR agency Infamous PR- as they are primarily electronic music focused, I *think* they now have the notability/press coverage to justify a stub, but they are a small firm so I could be wrong. I have submitted it as a draft to be reviewed but thought listing it as part of this project could help as there may be other editors who can advise on whether it's notable or not. But not sure if an agency would/should be part of this project, even if it's related to the genre?

Thanks for any advice Editing84 (talk) 11:44, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240109114400","author":"Editing84","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Editing84-20240109114400-Does_the_scope_of_the_electronic_music_project_include_industry_focused_pages?","replies":["c-Editing84-20240109114500-Editing84-20240109114400","c-Kvng-20240114000700-Editing84-20240109114400"]}}-->

Sorry forgot to add link to the draft- Draft:Infamous PR#History Editing84 (talk) 11:45, 9 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240109114500","author":"Editing84","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Editing84-20240109114500-Editing84-20240109114400","replies":[]}}-->
Looks like a good start. It doesn't hit the bullseye here but go ahead and add it to the project. ~Kvng (talk) 00:07, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240114000700","author":"Kvng","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kvng-20240114000700-Editing84-20240109114400","replies":["c-Editing84-20240116093600-Kvng-20240114000700"]}}-->
Thanks, will do. They have now reviewed it but feel that the sources aren't good enough yet. I thought there were enough to justify the page being created- ie more than just mentions/announcements- and growing overtime, but maybe it's borderline! Editing84 (talk) 09:36, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240116093600","author":"Editing84","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Editing84-20240116093600-Kvng-20240114000700","replies":["c-Kvng-20240116125400-Editing84-20240116093600"]}}-->
As a reviewer I can tell you that AfC is a gauntlet. I would consider moving the article to mainspace yourself. There's a chance it will be deleted but I think that's WP:UNLIKELY. ~Kvng (talk) 12:54, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240116125400","author":"Kvng","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kvng-20240116125400-Editing84-20240116093600","replies":["c-Editing84-20240116131000-Kvng-20240116125400"]}}-->
Ah interesting. I didn't want to move it myself because when I first created the article I did that- as that's what I would usually do when I create one- but someone nominated it for deletion because it wasn't good enough- I asked to re-draft instead and eventually consensus was reached on that. A much better long-form source was published since then, so I thought that would be a positive improvement, as well as an overall re-write of the content- but still felt that if I moved it myself other editors might not like it, given the past history. Hard to say, it's a bit of a minefield at times! Editing84 (talk) 13:10, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240116131000","author":"Editing84","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Editing84-20240116131000-Kvng-20240116125400","replies":["c-Kvng-20240116132300-Editing84-20240116131000"]}}-->
Yes, previous AFD does change things. Can you supply a link to that discussion? Also, is there any WP:COI in play here? ~Kvng (talk) 13:23, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240116132300","author":"Kvng","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Kvng-20240116132300-Editing84-20240116131000","replies":["c-Editing84-20240116133400-Kvng-20240116132300"]}}-->
Yeah that makes sense- the old afd discussion is here- Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Infamous PR I also managed to totally confuse the process by not being familiar with it myself, but now have a slightly better grasp on things! No COI- but I knew of the company and liked some of the charitable initiatives they'd set up in the scene, so suspect my first draft was more positively leaning than it should have been. So I worked on the neutrality after that. Editing84 (talk) 13:34, 16 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240116133400","author":"Editing84","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Editing84-20240116133400-Kvng-20240116132300","replies":[]}}-->
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