Shortcuts WP:SAYWHEREYOUREADITWP:SAYWHEREYOUREADIT WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTITWP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT WP:SWYRTWP:SWYRT WP:SWYGTWP:SWYGT WP:SAYWHEREWP:SAYWHERE "Say where...

cites from Motives for the September 11 attacks article (but read WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Sidebar "FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives" needs a citation giving the...

version not (yet) found) to his previous edit here saying "per WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT". This suggests that he used newenergytimes.com for information, not...

information, in addition to linking a RIPM source permalink, per WP:V and WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT Editors should not provide bare links to non-free RIPM pages Editors...

can't see the text online, then there's no need to link to it. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. — KV5 • Talk • 18:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Link removed.--TonyTheTiger...

will have to be replaced. Refs. 19–21 are incorrectly cited. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Furthermore, the linked pages (on canadianrockalt.blogspot.de) do...

times. THE GROOVE 03:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC) The rule is WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, so if it was just a transcript of the text on the wiki you would have...

may contain reliable sources that can be checked and used (see: WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT)." In WP:V#Exceptional claims require exceptional sources, added footnote...

Comment Considering the latter two points, I should've mentioned WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, but looking at the linked text, it itself is of not much help.--Rocknrollmancer...

direct quote". Punkmorten (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Wikipedia:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT#Cite_the_place_where_you_found_the_material suggests that the supporting...

less true except that WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT is much more important than you suggest. Without editors adhere to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, readers can't verify,...

already existing URLs? Because that might be problematic under WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Jo-Jo Eumerus (talk, contributions) 16:07, 25 July 2019 (UTC) The...

so the entire first table is essentially unreferenced right now. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC) I could re-reference...

article, since we are getting the information form Reuters. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT on how to format these types of second-hand sources. HeyUGuys (#56...

footnotes: I must say, the citations look outstanding. Good job. Per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, I presume that you personally read those sources, true? All refs I...

source, with |via= giving the website presenting their database, per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT): RefSeek.com's list, which may have entries we don't include below...

article that clearly indicates where its material is sourced from (WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT) is much more important to encyclopedic integrity than having a cut-and-paste...

(probably what I just gave) as well as the link (we call this, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). As it is, it looks like a webpage, which might not be a reliable...

Yes, to the most useful link, and failing that, at least to the WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT link, per current guidance, if that was the source of the content that...

wrote. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC) Also see WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT (thanks David!) Ealdgyth - Talk 13:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC) Ealdgyth...

my display. I'd rather err on the side of providing a link per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT than not in these cases. Imzadi 1979 → 01:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC) Ref...

article. You were evidently quoting those 1900s reports indirectly. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Also, if this is kept, I'd suggest renaming to Pederasty in Albania...

numbers leading to your specific text in the Bibliography (WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). I personally do not see much of a reason for listing the book or...

will have to be replaced. Refs. 19–21 are incorrectly cited. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Furthermore, the linked pages (on canadianrockalt.blogspot.de) do...

to create a citation along the lines of the example provided in WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. I'd like to use the {{cite book}} template to do this. Can anybody...

(talk) 10:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC) Re Kay's quoting of Richards: WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT says to cite what you've seen, which is what I have done. What is the...

"archived" URL taken from allaboutmadonna.com. This was a violation of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, as it threw up a smokescreen of legitimacy. Binksternet (talk) 01:51...

Esoglou (talk) 11:21, 28 October 2010 (UTC) I draw your attention to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. It applies here. If you are citing one scholar quoting another......

so the entire first table is essentially unreferenced right now. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 00:39, 15 September 2009 (UTC) I could re-reference...

should not cite to anything that you can't verify yourself. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT Morbidthoughts (talk) 01:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC) No, I have been the...

citations have been formed based on SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT and are intended to be used in accordance with SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, including their mostly being optional...

not required, but it does enhance the footnote with a bit more of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. That covers formatting, which if you have an eye towards harmonizing...

citing an article when you can only access the abstract. See also WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT – if you've only seen the abstract, you should only be citing it for...

g. this, and compare what it finds to the archived version. Per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, cite the archived version and tag the cite with {{update}} and a comment...

section on WP:V. There is a related passage suggested for WP:RS. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT addresses the point directly but I feel the principle needs to be expressed...

at all. So I ask you, is there still an acceptance that we "WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT"? At this point, I acknowledge your complaints but would like to indicate...

Mabbett. It provides a quicker way to comply with the idea behind WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. A rewording of the template can always discussed--for example, I approve...

tackle this as a solo administrator. I know we already have WP:V, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, and also WP:CIRCULAR. Has anyone ever written an essay to the tune...

that these links are subject to our citation guidelines in WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, which are more fully explicated in Wikipedia:Convenience links#Existing...

Nate • (chatter) 00:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC) Actually, Wikipedia:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT indicates otherwise. I think accurate citation is particularly necessary...

Given that that was the source, and not Moment, and in light of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT and WP:RS, can you explain why you have attributed the quotation to...

his books is a bibliography of other Carson-related publications. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT surprisingly says it's ok to use such sources without crediting them...

rest of the day. Humanpublic (talk) 00:48, 18 February 2013 (UTC) WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT might be pertinent here, in particular the sentence which says, "Don't...

g. this, and compare what it finds to the archived version. Per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, cite the archived version and tag the cite with {{update}} and a comment...

content; the secondary sources are helpful but not necessary. As per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, the primary source is where I actually found the information; I dug...

Near East. There are many problems with this diff, starting with WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, but it gets way too long way too quick to go over here. The entire...

be "References" that were read/used by the article's author. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT etc. Not an FA showstopper. Overall, a very good article. Leaning towards...

transcription so it is not the magazine article nor is it the book. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Use {{cite web}}: {{cite web |last1=Lee |first1=Muna |title=The Inter-American...

but if Calypsomusic cited the source without reading it, that's a WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT violation that Calypsomusic must not repeat. The second part of the...

actually just copies them from her book (Rose) in violation of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT (leading to an incorrect report of the source). Here we see her making...

can't see the text online, then there's no need to link to it. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. — KV5 • Talk • 18:24, 29 May 2010 (UTC) Link removed.--TonyTheTiger...

real source actually says (i.e., as parsed by a fluent reader). WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT should not be misinterpreted as requiring us to do something like misusing...

citation must have seen the document they cite too. That is part of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Blueboar (talk) 22:03, 27 March 2008 (UTC) From what you are saying...

Wikipedia itself, but I don't want to get into that.) Literally WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT says that if one translates an article from another language Wikipedia...

other sources but listing About.com as a convenience link as per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). However, in this case the material is original to About,com. As such...

instances it is expected that the intermediate work be cited per WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Both the original and the intermediate work are expected to be reliable...

anybody assist? Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 12:46, 27 August 2019 (UTC) WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. You got it from Ancestry.com, so you cite Ancestry.com. Headbomb {t...

April 2013. Retrieved 10 January 2021 – via Chicago Sun-Times. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies. If you are citing a review at Chicago Sun-Times then cite...

challenged. Include the website in the citations, not just the books. (SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). I can see an objection to this approach, though, in that it might...

we want to point them to the specific edition being cited (per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). This is because later editions may not be identical to the one being...

citation(s)? - Jmabel | Talk 07:13, 28 June 2008 (UTC) See WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. - Dan Dank55 (talk)(mistakes) 16:40, 28 June 2008 (UTC) I agree with...

may have originally published the information, but you need to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. The references should be the link followed by "Chart Stats" and the...

adding the link would be nice. The date of the paper I read was 31 (WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). I also don't like to add Google News links. I'm a dead tree fetishist...

which don't have any information about pickoffs. Additionally, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT wouldn't allow me to put essentially unreferenced info up there anyway...

important thing is to attribute the original to the publisher, but wp:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, not presume that Highbeam's archived version is a faithful and complete...

the intent of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT here. Blueboar (talk) 02:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC) No. needlessly complicated. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT is designed to stop...

26 May 2021 (UTC) So why? What should the editor use instead? WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT says to do just that. Now, it could be that these are just purley unreliable...

you're getting your information from a poor source, we want you to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT so that it will be quicker for RecentChanges patrollers to notice how...

the template's talk page. Cite the source that you consulted. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. If the article to which you are adding these citations uses the style...

incorrect citation from Winer without attributing it to Winer. Per WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, if you cite any source for something, you are supposed to have looked...

isn't a preference, you cite the source you actually used - See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 09:02, 23 February 2014 (UTC) Thanks. That...

should not cite information to references they havn't checked - see WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. This is why the onus must be on people who add the suspect information...

(talk) 13:14, 13 December 2010 (UTC) I admit that I contravened WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT in the strict sense of the rule. My contravention was, however, not...

(talk) 17:04, 25 March 2013 (UTC) A combination of two reasons: (1) WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT — if I find a source by reading a Google books link, it's appropriate...

ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 23:08, 15 January 2018 (UTC) Note: per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT if you read the book using a kindle you should say that... however...

(or both together)? In both cases, I would suggest clarifying per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT that these are secondary citations and the originals have not been...

and a SDK version of documentation. This violates the intent of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT since there is no guarantee that both versions are the same. Replaceable...

sources are correctly represented in the non-reliable Wiki. Contemplate SayWhereYouGotIt: if you got it from a Wiki, that's what you should be citing to, and...

the WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT rule? -- PBS (talk) 09:07, 15 February 2012 (UTC) If there's a middle way among the requirements of Saywhereyougotit, Reliablesources...

community. One way to think about attribution for these reports is WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Even if Turnitin was willing to provide reports anonymously, it would...

your own"? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 21:53, 25 March 2011 (UTC) WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT MBelgrano (talk) 21:54, 25 March 2011 (UTC) Thats the one, I've been...

Japan! 18:38, 8 February 2016 (UTC) @Tsavage: The policy here is WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT – if you've only looked at one source, reference the source you checked...

com webpage for your information (If the latter, see our policy: WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT...it is very poor practice to cite something you have not actually...

(talk) 00:21, 2 June 2013 (UTC) As far as a speech is concerned, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT is going to require citing a transcript, this being a text encyclopedia...

article. You were evidently quoting those 1900s reports indirectly. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Also, if this is kept, I'd suggest renaming to Pederasty in Albania...

them, then no, you shouldn't use those citations. See Wikipedia:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, which deals with this sort of issue. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:55, 7 January...

source, with |via= giving the website presenting their database, per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT): RefSeek.com's list, which may have entries we don't include below...

1 May 2012 (UTC) The guideline you're thinking of is probably WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Deor (talk) 14:46, 1 May 2012 (UTC) Thank you. That's a good one,...

citation) can be supported by Cawley using his secondary sources (WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT)? -- PBS (talk) 09:28, 29 August 2012 (UTC) I guess if you say it fails...

having citations is so that the material can beverified. So yes, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, including the page number. Dlabtot (talk) 01:04, 19 October 2010 (UTC)...

good start! hajatvrc @ 16:00, 31 July 2012 (UTC) Hi. This section WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT tells me what a reference should look like when I'm referencing something...

(probably what I just gave) as well as the link (we call this, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). As it is, it looks like a webpage, which might not be a reliable...

Roscelese did not listen to the program herself. This is a violation of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Regarding the assertion that Gorman's blog authenticated the video...

as dead-tree format or to mention the self-published cite; the WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT guideline encourages the latter. It's also possible to do the dead-tree...

(talk) 16:27, 1 April 2024 (UTC) Tsavage there is advice on this at WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. TSventon (talk) 16:33, 1 April 2024 (UTC) That answered my question...

March 2009 (UTC) You attribute it to the Dallas Morning News, but WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Dlabtot (talk) 17:51, 17 March 2009 (UTC) I wouldn't worry about digital...

18:23, 18 February 2022 (UTC) @Cordless Larry: Best practice is to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. {{u|Sdkb}} talk 18:26, 18 February 2022 (UTC) Will do, thanks.--LJA123...

far, based on a cost-benefit argument. I would agree though that WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies. Jayen466 20:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC) If you do need to cite...

Street Journal, etc —Sebquantic (talk) 14:02, 13 April 2010 (UTC) WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT answers these questions. Blueboar (talk) 14:12, 13 April 2010 (UTC)...

having seen the trailer, not the movie. My main points were the WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT honesty issue and to remove any suggestion that the abstract might...

secondary sources such as Askew and Yamamoto using the format given in WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, which is entirely acceptable on Wikipedia. Frankly I'm getting the...

article that clearly indicates where its material is sourced from (WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT) is much more important to encyclopedic integrity than having a cut-and-paste...

sources cited therein that you haven't personally read. See also WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Deor (talk) 06:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC) In answer to your first part...

was that found on rickross.com. That should be done anyway – see WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. (I don't know what the status is if the copy viewed and cited infringes...

rules:simple/complex 16:23, 27 May 2009 (UTC) Probably the best solution, taking WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT into account, is to do a news cite to the newspaper, then the word...

(UTC) Cite the edition you looked at to get the information (per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT)... noting which edition the information came from in is important...

sources are not obvious and simple to interpret.) But remember WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, and also remember that deleting mention of primary sources is not...

the thread above. Cite the original work, and cite answers.com to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Jayen466 21:06, 14 November 2008 (UTC) Find a RS with Hoovers on it...

Comment Considering the latter two points, I should've mentioned WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, but looking at the linked text, it itself is of not much help.--Rocknrollmancer...

which in turn cited a third original source, a perfect example of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT) in the course of untangling everything, one of the involved editors...

sources cited therein that you haven't personally read. See also WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Deor (talk) 06:35, 3 January 2010 (UTC) In answer to your first part...

Quest For Knowledge (talk) 14:46, 11 January 2014 (UTC) This is a WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT issue, as the source is still the Mirror. If you're saying it's unreliable...

people then get copies of the articles in said bibliography (as per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT) in many cases of course, what ends up being put into Wikipedia is...

page). SandyGeorgia (Talk) 16:52, 23 February 2010 (UTC) We should WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT... if you got the information from the dead tree version (with the...

December 2010 (UTC) A reasonably good summary, with the caveat of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. If the source says "Route 9 is the most dangerous bus route in London"...

ref 19; I believe the citation is given in precisely the format WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT specifies. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 22:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Otherwise...

(talk) 01:58, 18 February 2021 (UTC) The applicable guidance is WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT; if you're looking at Tidal and not the booklet, you cite Tidal. Nikkimaria...

2008 (UTC) You can really cite it from wherever you like. WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies. However, this is one case where I think that guideline is...

article will be live.... How do I SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT? 9 Wikipedia:Teahouse/Questions/Archive 31#How do I SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT? Need a hand moving new section...

(There is the WP:EL policy but that is for External Links, not RS) - SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT tells us to cite the source used. However, in this case, the website...

convenience copy is a true copy (editors also need to bear in mind WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). I suppose this also has a bearing on the question of linking to archived...

{{ISBN|0-7475-3269-9}} → ISBN 0-7475-3269-9 Remember that you need to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. If whatever you wrote is supported by a book, cite that book. —Trappist...

<newstub>. While it is still fresh in your mind, please remember to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT to help protect this contribution from deletion. If you need help citing...

general comments Add |via=Internet Archive to the Kennedy source, per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. That's not how I am interpreting the guidance there. The guidance...

original source) This website is basically an archive. In addition to SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, archived information should correctly attribute the original author...

preferably be rewritten as a ref to the original source - but per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT a replacement can only be made after confirming that new cite points...

the Bach Cantatas Website seems simply not true" argument: Yes, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT is still current guidance: if and when the source where the information...

the source I got it from" – afaik that is what is recommended by WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. If you got it from a primary source, cite the primary source; if you...

(talk) 00:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC) Also, putting this here: WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT It is improper to obtain a citation from an intermediate source without...

Ocaasi c 04:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC) The pertinent policy seems to be WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, which is equivocal but militates against linking to an online third...

1 June 2018 (UTC) One issue that has not been discussed is how WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies when transcluding from Wikidata. My understanding of SAYWHERE...

citations. I think some reference to its use should be included per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Blueboar (talk) 14:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC) Link to NRHP webpages with...

and Engineering Laboratory.? After some more thought I decided WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies here, and I've reworked it to point directly to the CRREL report...

to cite Umberto Eco for a result in information theory, but meh, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT I suppose. Tijfo098 (talk) 00:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC) I was happy when...

(UTC) In that case, the book is the source. You cite the book, but WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT - the website. But for original material from the website to be used...

(talk) 16:53, 5 March 2016 (UTC) If blanking sources that accurately WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT for material that is probably not wrong is a "huge service" – thus...

possible? Ninguém (talk) 14:59, 6 February 2009 (UTC) No... see: WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT... since you got the info from Deutsche Welle, you should cite that...

as a last resort. I assume worst comes to worst you can rely on WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT: If your source is not findable online, it should be findable in reputable...

from an archive or CD then those should be sourced directly as per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Betty Logan (talk) 18:03, 7 July 2012 (UTC) Source. Lange, Karen (September...

raised this issue. Sarastro1 (talk) 18:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC) But, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Since you haven't seen the Almanack yourself, you need to say that...

removal of content (and reference, which at least conformed to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT from the first contributor's perspective) made Wikipedia's mainspace...

clarification on this one. Betty Logan (talk) 12:11, 12 October 2011 (UTC) WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies here. If an editor can't personally verify that the cited content...

have removed the non-RS because, more importantly, WP:ELNO. Also, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:48, 4 April 2023 (UTC) @SandyGeorgia: I was...

sources? Kingsindian (talk) 15:17, 1 September 2014 (UTC) Does WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT help in this case? Yes, it's generally best to go to the source, but...

linking to the currently cited website as a "courtesy link" per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT.) Blueboar (talk) 14:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC) Thanks for the in-depth...

the content may be linked with via Fundinguniverse or similar per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. However better links may exist. Harvard Business School library and...

November 2009 (UTC) I have seen nothing supporting this claim. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 01:38, 17 November 2009 (UTC) Is this site...

understanding. Thanks! Carte Rouge (talk) 13:43, 16 March 2018 (UTC) See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT... we should both attribute and cite to source A, unless we have seen...

reasons: One, you didn't see the backstage records, and you have to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT (rather than where someone else got it). Two, backstage records are...

Lundy is often seriously wrong, but the correct answer is to both wp:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT (thepeerage) and also indicate the RS(s) cited there in support of...

FYI, if it was one source quoting another, the guideline would be WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Squidfryerchef (talk) 01:31, 19 August 2010 (UTC) Musa E. Mazzawi...

February 2012 (UTC) The problem I've come across with this is in WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT faults with secondary usage. I had a case of this where a local Catholic...

it is troubling that none of the reveiwers raised the issue. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT; in this case, the English article got its text from the French Wiki...

question. Anybody else? --Lexein (talk) 00:45, 19 December 2012 (UTC) WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. --Jayron32 00:51, 19 December 2012 (UTC) Cool - doesn't say I have...

source are perfectly acceptable. See WP:NONENG. Note the guidance at WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT that when using non-English sources, it may be helpful for our readers...

that the book was retrieved through that website, to enhance the WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT-ness of the citation. Weird. I certainly didn't do that. Looks like...

opinion. Saying it was the publication's, it's erroneous and violates WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. RB88 (T) 22:44, 1 February 2010 (UTC) "interplay between the three...

may have originally published the information, but you need to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. The references should be the link followed by "Chart Stats" and the...

28 April 2015 (UTC) @Rippedcloth - Cite the psu.edu page, per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. -- Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 06:55, 28 April 2015 (UTC) Thank you! (talk)...

it as though you were using the original Harper's article (see WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). I'd therefore use something like <ref>{{cite journal | last=Howard...

direct quote". Punkmorten (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC) Wikipedia:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT#Cite_the_place_where_you_found_the_material suggests that the supporting...

10 October 2013 (UTC) Hello. The relevant policy here is Wikipedia:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Short answer, cite the book you've actually read :) --LukeSurl t c...

far, based on a cost-benefit argument. I would agree though that WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies. Jayen466 20:58, 30 October 2008 (UTC) If you do need to cite...

as a pregnancy). If you add content, I think you should Wikipedia:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, even if you got it from some less-than-perfect source. But someone...

don't have access to the journal, you could use the website if you SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, in other words cite both the website and the journal, saying that...

independent thought.thanos5150 The relavant policy statement here is WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. You are essentially trying to use Noone's book as a convenience link...

its current form is not accurate. At Wikipedia we are required to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. The editor didn't get it from the link that I provided as an alternate...

may contain reliable sources that can be checked and used (see: WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT)." In WP:V#Exceptional claims require exceptional sources, added footnote...

it is troubling that none of the reveiwers raised the issue. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT; in this case, the English article got its text from the French Wiki...

which don't have any information about pickoffs. Additionally, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT wouldn't allow me to put essentially unreferenced info up there anyway...

are hits at various UFOlogy sites. Looks like another case for WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Mangoe (talk) 18:32, 27 October 2009 (UTC) Good call on that. Simonm223...

them, then no, you shouldn't use those citations. See Wikipedia:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, which deals with this sort of issue. Ealdgyth - Talk 15:55, 7 January...

adding the link would be nice. The date of the paper I read was 31 (WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). I also don't like to add Google News links. I'm a dead tree fetishist...

numbers leading to your specific text in the Bibliography (WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT). I personally do not see much of a reason for listing the book or...

the basis of those RS mentions, which is really backwards from WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT... but whatever. Jclemens (talk) 05:39, 15 December 2012 (UTC) Good...

directly to him, if he's worth quoting/paraphrasing for some reason, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT in a modern work, and provide salient context from the modern work...

doesn't matter that an advocacy group is being used; it's a big WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT violation. My Sunday morning before church suggests that everything...

raised this issue. Sarastro1 (talk) 18:43, 26 March 2013 (UTC) But, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Since you haven't seen the Almanack yourself, you need to say that...

be "References" that were read/used by the article's author. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT etc. Not an FA showstopper. Overall, a very good article. Leaning towards...

to cite Umberto Eco for a result in information theory, but meh, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT I suppose. Tijfo098 (talk) 00:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC) I was happy when...

(talk) 10:11, 28 October 2009 (UTC) Re Kay's quoting of Richards: WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT says to cite what you've seen, which is what I have done. What is the...

opinion. Saying it was the publication's, it's erroneous and violates WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. RB88 (T) 22:44, 1 February 2010 (UTC) "interplay between the three...

"archived" URL taken from allaboutmadonna.com. This was a violation of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, as it threw up a smokescreen of legitimacy. Binksternet (talk) 01:51...

my display. I'd rather err on the side of providing a link per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT than not in these cases. Imzadi 1979 → 01:16, 3 June 2013 (UTC) Ref...

and Engineering Laboratory.? After some more thought I decided WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies here, and I've reworked it to point directly to the CRREL report...

don't directly verify what is being asserted per WP:BURDEN and WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Morbidthoughts (talk) 23:23, 13 June 2022 (UTC) New in depth NYT piece...

getting offtopic for this page. Just cite what you can read, per wp:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, and leave it at that. LeadSongDog come howl! 21:21, 1 December 2014...

access to, so you need to cite X, citing Y. This is discussed at WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, though the form given there is far from full attribution and would...

its current form is not accurate. At Wikipedia we are required to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. The editor didn't get it from the link that I provided as an alternate...

not required, but it does enhance the footnote with a bit more of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. That covers formatting, which if you have an eye towards harmonizing...

times. THE GROOVE 03:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC) The rule is WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, so if it was just a transcript of the text on the wiki you would have...

up from, and inline references need to be added in some places. WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies. References to the annals can go in alongside the references...

secondary sources such as Askew and Yamamoto using the format given in WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, which is entirely acceptable on Wikipedia. Frankly I'm getting the...

to ban it.: how come we cite Rocha for this, rather than Shen? WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, no? -G However, numerous sequels, pirated editions, and parodies of...

(or both together)? In both cases, I would suggest clarifying per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT that these are secondary citations and the originals have not been...

(talk) 00:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC) Also, putting this here: WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT It is improper to obtain a citation from an intermediate source without...

ref 19; I believe the citation is given in precisely the format WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT specifies. — OwenBlacker (Talk) 22:29, 1 January 2010 (UTC) Otherwise...

wrote. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:58, 2 December 2008 (UTC) Also see WP:CITE#SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT (thanks David!) Ealdgyth - Talk 13:14, 2 December 2008 (UTC) Ealdgyth...

cites from Motives for the September 11 attacks article (but read WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Sidebar "FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives" needs a citation giving the...

not required, but it does enhance the footnote with a bit more of WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. That covers formatting, which if you have an eye towards harmonizing...

that the book was retrieved through that website, to enhance the WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT-ness of the citation. Weird. I certainly didn't do that. Looks like...

murdered" IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 19:43, 11 September 2024 (UTC) If WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT applies, it's not exactly a WP:RSN problem. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 19:47...

have removed the non-RS because, more importantly, WP:ELNO. Also, WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:48, 4 April 2023 (UTC) @SandyGeorgia: I was...

health-related subjects. @Cdjp1 would like to "purge" it, but we have to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, and any attempt to replace it with a {{better source}} might well...

citing a magazine page hosted by a trustworthy online source, per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, they do not need to cite the hosting service. That said, if other...

can't use the sources until you can read them yourself. You have to WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, and that means you can't write "The actor's performance was praised...

that it supports the information it is claimed to support. (See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT) ColinFine (talk) 22:09, 2 December 2025 (UTC) I admit that I didn't...

not copy a citation without looking at the source yourself. See WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. ColinFine (talk) 11:35, 13 March 2026 (UTC) Hello all I saw a user...

it just fine. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 17:27, 2 November 2023 (UTC) WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. It doesn't matter that some other source than the one the claim-making...

features in words. But linking the proper url is very important, per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. Bneu2013 (talk) 01:18, 3 April 2023 (UTC) Oppose per the valid concerns...

and put the source on it that the orginal source cites (breaching WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT yet they never answered my queries as to whether they really read all...

to ban it.: how come we cite Rocha for this, rather than Shen? WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT, no? -G However, numerous sequels, pirated editions, and parodies of...

general comments Add |via=Internet Archive to the Kennedy source, per WP:SAYWHEREYOUGOTIT. That's not how I am interpreting the guidance there. The guidance...