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Talk:2011 Egyptian protests

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Your comments would be appreciated on this page that may be of interest to you.

:-) !Wipsenade (talk) 11:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T11:48:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T11:48:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T11:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Death toll in 2011 Egypt protests

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Leading up to the protests, at least six cases of self-immolation were reported, including a man arrested while trying to set himself on fire in downtown Cairo.[1] These cases were inspired by, and began exactly one month after, the acts of self-immolation in Tunisia triggering the 2010–2011 Tunisian uprising. Six instances have been reported, including acts by Abdou Abdel-Moneim Jaafar,[2] Mohammed Farouk Hassan,[3] Mohammed Ashour Sorour,[4] and Ahmed Hashim al-Sayyed who later died from his injuries.[5]

The death toll from the violence had risen to 54 dead and 1,000 injured by 28 January.[6] As of 29 January, at least 102 people were known to have died,[7][8][9][9][10] many or most shot.[11] The dead included at least 10 policemen, 3 of whom were killed in Rafah.[7]

By 29 January, 2,000 people were known to be injured.[12] The same day, an employee of the Azerbaijani embassy in Egypt was killed while returning home from work in Cairo;[13] the next day Azerbaijan sent a plane to evacuate citizens[14] and opened a criminal investigation into the death.[15]

Funerals for the dead on the "Friday of Anger" were held on 30 January. Hundreds of mourners gathered for the funerals calling for Mubarak's removal.[16] By 1 February, the protests had left at least 125 people dead,[17] although UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay stated that as many as 300 people may have died in anti-government unrest in Egypt according to a report by Human Rights Watch. This unconfirmed tally included 80 HRW-verified deaths at two Cairo hospitals, 36 in Alexandria, and 13 in the port city of Suez, amongst others;[18][19][20] over 3,000 people were also reported as injured.[18][19][20]


Major flash point As yet uconfirmed death toll
as of 1 February 2011		 Sources
Alexandria 22 [6][7][18][19][21]
Suez 31

[6][7][18][19][21][22][23]

Asyut 3 [23]
Beni Suef 17 [24]
Thebes 1 [25]
Atfih 1 [25]
Sidi Gaber 0 [21]
Cairo 44 [6][26][13][18][19][21][22][23][27]
El Arish 0 [28][21]
Kharga Oasis 1 [25]
El-Mahalla El-Kubra 0 [29]
Ismailiya 0 [28][28][6]
Monufia 0 [28]
Sheikh Zoweid, North Sinai 1 [30][30]
Abu Simbel 1 [25]
Aswan 0 [6]
Luxor 0 [7]
Rafah 3 [7][7]
Giza 0 [6][7]
Sharm El-Sheikh 0 [7]
Hurghada 0 [7]
Mansoura 2 [31]
Other places hit by protests (if any) 15 [30][30][32][6][7]
Total 138

My doubel counting of HRW's totals is fixed and Asianet.it's information is suspended pending a reliable source issue.Wipsenade (talk) 18:19, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T18:19:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T18:19:00.000Z-Death_toll_in_2011_Egypt_protests","replies":[]}}-->

  1. ^ Rosenberg, David (24 January 2011). "Self-Immolation Spreads Across the Mideast, Inspiring Protest, Controversy". The Media Line. Retrieved 25 January 2011.
  2. ^ "مصري يحرق نفسه أمام البرلمان". Al Jazeera (in Arabic). 17 January 2011. Retrieved 25 January 2011.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)
  3. ^ Zayed, Dina (18 January 2011). "Egyptians Set Themselves Ablaze After Tunisia Unrest". Reuters. Retrieved 25 January 2011.
  4. ^ "موظف بـ'مصر للطيران' يهدد بحرق نفسه أمام نقابة الصحفيين" (in Arabic). El-Aosboa (newspaper). 18 January 2011. Retrieved 25 January 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)CS1 maint: unrecognized language (link)
  5. ^ Staff writer (18 January 2011). "Mother of Ahmed Hashim al-Sayyed". Reuters (via Yahoo! News). Retrieved 2 February 2011. {{cite web}}: Italic or bold markup not allowed in: |publisher= (help)
  6. ^ a b c d e f g h Cite error: The named reference asianews1 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  7. ^ a b c d e f g h i j k Cite error: The named reference autogenerated2 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  8. ^ Cite error: The named reference sky-2011-01-30 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  9. ^ a b Issacharoff, Avi (27 January 2011). "Death Toll in Egypt Protests Reaches Five as Anti-Government Riots Persist – Demonstration Organizers Say Facebook, the Main Site Used by Demonstrators, Has Become Only Partially Accessible; Government Denies Targeting Social Networks". Haaretz. Retrieved 2 February 2011.
  10. ^ Staff writer (28 January 2011). "13 Killed in Egypt's Suez, 1,030 Wounded in Cairo". Reuters. Retrieved 2 February 2011.
  11. ^ Cite error: The named reference AlJazeera29th1pm was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  12. ^ Cite error: The named reference reuters3 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  13. ^ a b Agayev, Zulfugar (30 January 2011). "Azerbaijani Embassy Worker Shot Dead in Egypt, Ministry Says". Bloomberg. Retrieved 2 February 2011.
  14. ^ "Ambassador: Embassy will continue providing necessary help to Azerbaijanis in Egypt".
  15. ^ "Prosecutor General's Office Files Lawsuit on Murder of Accountant of Azerbaijani Embassy in Egypt". 31 January 2011.
  16. ^ Nolan, Dan (29 January 2011). "Hundreds Mourn the Dead in Egypt – The Bereaved Families Were Joined by Throngs of Demonstrators Calling for an End to President Hosni Mubarak's Rule". Al Jazeera English. Retrieved 2 February 2011.
  17. ^ Staff writer (31 January 2011). "Egypt Crisis: Country Braced for 'March of a Million' – A 'March of a Million' Against the Egyptian Regime Has Been Called for Tuesday in Alexandria After One Was Announced in Cairo and All Train Services Were Cancelled, an Aide to Dissident Mohamed ElBaradei Said". The Daily Telegraph. Retrieved 2 February 2011.
  18. ^ a b c d e February 1, 2011 . "EGYPT: Rights advocates report protest death toll as high as 300 | Babylon & Beyond | Los Angeles Times". Latimesblogs.latimes.com. Retrieved 2011-02-02. {{cite web}}: Text "  9:48 am" ignored (help)CS1 maint: extra punctuation (link) CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link) Cite error: The named reference "latimes1" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  19. ^ a b c d e "Egypt Unrest Claimed About 300 Lives – UN High Commissioner for Human Rights Navi Pillay". Allvoices.com. Retrieved 1 February 2011. Cite error: The named reference "allvoices1" was defined multiple times with different content (see the help page).
  20. ^ a b Staff writer (1 February 2011). "UN Human Rights Chief: 300 Reported Dead in Egypt Protests". Haaretz. Retrieved 1 February 2011.
  21. ^ a b c d e "Al-Jazeera says Egyptian riot death close close to 90".
  22. ^ a b "Al Jazeera: 11 dead in Suez, Cairo 8 http://bit.ly/gB06ML". breakingnews.com. 2011-01-28. Retrieved 2011-02-01. {{cite web}}: External link in |title= (help)
  23. ^ a b c January 27, 2011 2:00AM (2011-01-27). "4 confirmed dead in Egyptian riots". Herald Sun. Retrieved 2011-02-01.{{cite web}}: CS1 maint: numeric names: authors list (link)
  24. ^ Cite error: The named reference reuters2 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  25. ^ a b c d http://www.wilsherline.net.uk/
  26. ^ Cite error: The named reference bloomberg3feb was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  27. ^ "Egypt official blames car crash for Cairo deaths". Reuters. Retrieved 2011-02-01.
  28. ^ a b c d Wyre Davies. "BBC News - Egypt unrest: protesters hold huge Cairo demonstration". Bbc.co.uk. Retrieved 2011-02-01.
  29. ^ Cite error: The named reference Thousands protests in Egypt was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  30. ^ a b c d Cite error: The named reference reuters1 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
  31. ^ "Day of Wrath in Egypt as 62 Killed". The Sun. Retrieved 30 January 2011.
  32. ^ Cite error: The named reference egypt1 was invoked but never defined (see the help page).
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He has been rude to you, myself, Lihaas, Knowledgekid87, Silver seren, and others since he decided to edit the 2011 Egyptian protests. I have talked to the other users and waiting for them to respond. This has to be addressed in the next 24hrs. -- The Egyptian Liberal (talk) 12:25, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T12:25:00.000Z","author":"The Egyptian Liberal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Egyptian_Liberal-2011-02-03T12:25:00.000Z-94.246.150.68","replies":[]}}-->

I agree frend.--Wipsenade (talk) 15:10, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T15:10:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T15:10:00.000Z-94.246.150.68","replies":["c-Lihaas-2011-02-05T11:33:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T15:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

im really trying (ignored him on the talk pages latest squabble). His incivility and NPA goes on after warnings. He accuses me of "stalking"Lihaas (talk) 11:33, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-05T11:33:00.000Z","author":"Lihaas","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lihaas-2011-02-05T11:33:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T15:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lihaas-2011-02-05T16:58:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-02-05T11:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
then why did you even bother to write a message, after which i responded in saying i have and am not getting involved with him. yet you continued editing a section in the middle of the page (that i only i actually recomennded otherwise) and then all out of the blue you go to admins? What was the point of your message then? hard to assume AGF then.Lihaas (talk) 16:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-05T16:58:00.000Z","author":"Lihaas","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Lihaas-2011-02-05T16:58:00.000Z-Lihaas-2011-02-05T11:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I mentioned him stalking you, the IP 94.246.150.68 is the major bad boy.--Wipsenade (talk) 17:09, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-05T17:09:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-05T17:09:00.000Z-94.246.150.68","replies":["c-Lihaas-2011-02-05T17:17:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-05T17:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thats what i thought. i though we were making progress, but then why were the 2 of us also included in the admin complaint?Lihaas (talk) 17:17, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-05T17:17:00.000Z","author":"Lihaas","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lihaas-2011-02-05T17:17:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-05T17:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I beleave the IP to be a troll. Every one else just needs to be WP:CIVIL. WP:CIVIL is much less upsetting than an IP troll or bad guy--Wipsenade (talk) 17:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-05T17:27:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-05T17:27:00.000Z-94.246.150.68","replies":["c-Lihaas-2011-02-05T17:43:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-05T17:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

he seems to be digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself on the wikiquette page..Lihaas (talk) 17:43, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-05T17:43:00.000Z","author":"Lihaas","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lihaas-2011-02-05T17:43:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-05T17:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I agree!Wipsenade (talk) 17:45, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-05T17:45:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-05T17:45:00.000Z-94.246.150.68","replies":[]}}-->

requesting you to change this on the page:
"Can our reminded them of WP:CIVIL, since my efforts have been to no use on them."
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Re: "Stop catfighting..."

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Sometimes I wish wikipedia had a "like" button. Agree completely :) --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 15:29, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T15:29:00.000Z","author":"Physics is all gnomes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T15:29:00.000Z-Re:_\"Stop_catfighting...\"","replies":["c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T15:58:00.000Z-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T15:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

:-)--Wipsenade (talk) 15:58, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T15:58:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T15:58:00.000Z-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T15:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lihaas-2011-02-03T16:47:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T15:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
tahrir sq. comment ;)Lihaas (talk) 16:47, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T16:47:00.000Z","author":"Lihaas","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lihaas-2011-02-03T16:47:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T15:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Egypt casualtiy table

Saw on the talk page you tried to sort it, in this heavily edited page there are alot of edit conflicts. do you have a link to that page. id both work on it and support your version if you can point me to it.Lihaas (talk) 16:45, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T16:45:00.000Z","author":"Lihaas","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lihaas-2011-02-03T16:45:00.000Z-Egypt_casualtiy_table","replies":[]}}-->

It's lost in the edit sea-!--Wipsenade (talk) 16:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T16:48:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T16:48:00.000Z-Egypt_casualtiy_table","replies":[]}}-->

Hey, I put all forms on my talk page above, so If I looked at my own page history.--Wipsenade (talk) 16:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T16:54:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T16:54:00.000Z-Egypt_casualtiy_table","replies":[]}}-->

As the creator of the table, or something

Could you take it down? I can't, because, it's protected. --94.246.150.68 (talk) 17:11, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T17:11:00.000Z","author":"94.246.150.68","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-94.246.150.68-2011-02-03T17:11:00.000Z-As_the_creator_of_the_table,_or_something","replies":[]}}-->

OK, untill it's confirmed in time by the BBC, UN, EuroNews, CNN, NHK, Ruiters, ect.--Wipsenade (talk) 17:16, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T17:16:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:16:00.000Z-As_the_creator_of_the_table,_or_something","replies":["c-94.246.150.68-2011-02-03T17:28:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. Also I'm pretty sure HRW will release a report with a lot of independly verified figures. --94.246.150.68 (talk) 17:28, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T17:28:00.000Z","author":"94.246.150.68","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-94.246.150.68-2011-02-03T17:28:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:32:00.000Z-94.246.150.68-2011-02-03T17:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
:-)!--Wipsenade (talk) 17:32, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T17:32:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:32:00.000Z-94.246.150.68-2011-02-03T17:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Wipsenade, just wanted to check that you thought removing the table was the right decision. I haven't looked at the sources in detail so can't say whether its numbers are reliable or not, but I found the info useful and readable. If you're happy with it going then ignore me, I just fear this has been pushed into false consensus by one person's continuous arguing.--Physics is all gnomes (talk) 17:44, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T17:44:00.000Z","author":"Physics is all gnomes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T17:44:00.000Z-As_the_creator_of_the_table,_or_something","replies":[]}}-->

Tempory peace keeper move. --Wipsenade (talk) 17:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T17:48:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:48:00.000Z-As_the_creator_of_the_table,_or_something","replies":["c-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T17:54:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Lol... you're doing better at this peacekeeper stuff than me. I have much to learn it seems. --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 17:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T17:54:00.000Z","author":"Physics is all gnomes","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T17:54:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:57:00.000Z-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T17:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
Well, I do have Manic depression spells and dyslexia to, and that page is not my cup of tea.--Wipsenade (talk) 17:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T17:57:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:57:00.000Z-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T17:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T18:43:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Yeah, it's frustrating me a lot. I've spent more time trying to get consensus than working on the article today. Not sure what else to do about it though. --Physics is all gnomes (talk) 18:43, 3 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-03T18:43:00.000Z","author":"Physics is all gnomes","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Physics_is_all_gnomes-2011-02-03T18:43:00.000Z-Wipsenade-2011-02-03T17:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

 :-( ! Wipsenade (talk) 11:30, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-05T11:30:00.000Z","author":"Wipsenade","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wipsenade-2011-02-05T11:30:00.000Z-As_the_creator_of_the_table,_or_something","replies":[]}}-->