Hi Vmenkov,

I'm making a push to improve Chinese classifier (formerly "Chinese measure word") towards GA status. If you're interested in this topic, your comments would be welcome at Talk:Chinese classifier#Article improvements. Thanks, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 00:33, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-18T00:33:00.000Z","author":"Rjanag","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rjanag-2009-05-18T00:33:00.000Z-Measure_words","replies":["c-Rjanag-2009-05-18T01:13:00.000Z-Rjanag-2009-05-18T00:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"r\u02a8ana\u0262"}}-->

Haha, I should not edit late at night. Thanks for the fix! rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 01:13, 18 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-18T01:13:00.000Z","author":"Rjanag","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rjanag-2009-05-18T01:13:00.000Z-Rjanag-2009-05-18T00:33:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"r\u02a8ana\u0262"}}-->

Hi Vmenkov,

I saw you undid my change in Aretxabaleta, and of course I don't quite agree with your move. Aretxabaleta is a Basque name, and as such it is written in that language's rules. In Spain, even if in Spanish it should be written Arechavaleta (upon which I agree), Aretxabaleta is the sole official name, and the only one used everywhere. The fact that in Spanish it is Arechavaleta has the same relevance as the fact that in Russian it is written Аречавалета, which in the article has absolutely no relevance. Regards, - Keta (talk) 10:11, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-23T10:11:00.000Z","author":"Keta","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Keta-2009-08-23T10:11:00.000Z-Edit_conflict_in_Aretxabaleta","replies":[]}}-->

I agree that Aretxabaleta is the only official spelling since 1979-81, but, due to the obvious political factors, the Spanish spelling, Arechavaleta, did have a greater international currency (in English, as well) until then. Accordingly, I moved the Spanish spelling from the lead to a special (sourced) section discussing the history of the name spelling. Hope you're OK with that. Vmenkov (talk) 12:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-23T12:05:00.000Z","author":"Vmenkov","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vmenkov-2009-08-23T12:05:00.000Z-Edit_conflict_in_Aretxabaleta","replies":["c-Vmenkov-2009-08-23T12:19:00.000Z-Vmenkov-2009-08-23T12:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

P.S. Just saw your user page. So you are from Aretxabaleta! A lovely place. I only spent a few hours in Aretxabaleta and Arrasate/Mondragon a few years ago, but I felt somehow that this is the most "authentically Basque" area along my entire route from Vitoria-Gasteiz to S.Sebastian/Donastia. Sorry if I am misusing any place names - I guess I never learned at the time which one is "official". Vmenkov (talk) 12:19, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-23T12:19:00.000Z","author":"Vmenkov","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vmenkov-2009-08-23T12:19:00.000Z-Vmenkov-2009-08-23T12:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Keta-2009-08-23T18:04:00.000Z-Vmenkov-2009-08-23T12:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Good job, much better now. Anyway, I think I'll have to take some time and write about my own town someday! I will add more info about the name too, about etymology and so... Take care!

P.S. As a picky note, the image you added is actually in Eskoriatza. I can change the article later on, but it would be nice if you could re-upload the image at Commons with the proper name ;) - Keta (talk) 18:04, 23 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-23T18:04:00.000Z","author":"Keta","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Keta-2009-08-23T18:04:00.000Z-Vmenkov-2009-08-23T12:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

How exactly was there a loss of content? Besides an actor or two I thought were already in the main article, the only other content not merged over was original research. TTN (talk) 15:16, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-03T15:16:00.000Z","author":"TTN","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TTN-2009-09-03T15:16:00.000Z-Chingachgook","replies":["c-Vmenkov-2009-09-04T07:55:00.000Z-TTN-2009-09-03T15:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

At the very least, there were interwikis and an illustration (a fair-use image, illustrating Chingachgook's becoming the main character of the German movie - something that may or may not be used under fair use in other articles). Other than that - I agree that there was not all that much sourced material there. Nonetheless, between there being 1433 hits for the name just on Google Books, and the fact that the name obviously had plenty of recognition (with things from a warship to a scout camp named after this character), I feel that there is plenty of space for anyone with an interest in the matter to develop the article to a decent shape. I don't have that much knowledge on or interest in the subject - it must have gotten on my watchlist because I put the image into it, years ago - but I just hope that someone else does... Vmenkov (talk) 07:55, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-04T07:55:00.000Z","author":"Vmenkov","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vmenkov-2009-09-04T07:55:00.000Z-TTN-2009-09-03T15:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vmenkov-2009-09-04T09:11:00.000Z-Vmenkov-2009-09-04T07:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

P.S. Other encyclopedias find this character worth an article of his own: http://student.britannica.com/comptons/article-9319559/Chingachgook Vmenkov (talk) 09:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-04T09:11:00.000Z","author":"Vmenkov","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Vmenkov-2009-09-04T09:11:00.000Z-Vmenkov-2009-09-04T07:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

If you have a map, I guess so. My source was Samuel Elliot Morrison, The European Discovery of America. He has the east end of the strait near Baffin Island and moving west as exploration continued. Looking more closely, he has a note and bibliography and says that 'the Russians were working on it in the eighteenth century'. He also has a map by George Best from 1578 with the Strait of Anian at the Bering Strait connected to the Atlantic by a Frobisher Strait cutting across the middle of Canada. The suprising accuracy of these two maps almost hints at some, possibly Chinese, knowledge. I wonder what Gavin Menzies would think. Benjamin Trovato (talk) 02:16, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-06T02:16:00.000Z","author":"Benjamin Trovato","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Benjamin_Trovato-2009-09-06T02:16:00.000Z-Strait_of_Anian","replies":["c-Vmenkov-2009-09-06T02:20:00.000Z-Benjamin_Trovato-2009-09-06T02:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

As I understand, the location of the Strait of Anian varied a lot from one cartographer to another, since, after all, no one had actually seen it. So I won't be surprised if one map placed it near the real Berging Strait, while another routed it from San Diego, California to Iqaluit, Nunavut... Vmenkov (talk) 02:20, 6 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-06T02:20:00.000Z","author":"Vmenkov","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vmenkov-2009-09-06T02:20:00.000Z-Benjamin_Trovato-2009-09-06T02:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Vmenkov, I'm not sure if the plaque is very relevent. Perhaps an image of Vittoria della Rovere instead? King regards, -- Jack1755 (talk) 14:26, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-13T14:26:00.000Z","author":"Jack1755","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jack1755-2009-09-13T14:26:00.000Z-Ferdinando_II_de'_Medici,_Grand_Duke_of_Tuscany","replies":["c-Vmenkov-2009-09-13T14:35:00.000Z-Jack1755-2009-09-13T14:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

As you've done plenty more work on this article than I've done, you probably are better qualified to choose best images to illustrate the article, and I won't object to whatever you may decide to replace this picture with. There are quite a few images to choose from in the Commons category, commons:Category:Ferdinando_II_de'_Medici,_Grand_Duke_of_Tuscany. I reckon, though, that the article (thanks to your efforts) is now big enough to contain more than one image - and while the portrait of his wife would of course be relevant, she has her article already...

To be honest, I have been "pushing" the picture of the plaque mostly because I've been somewhat puzzled by it - what did Ferdinand and his Mom the Regent do in 1627 that it had to be described in both Latin and Hebrew? Maybe someone will explain the mystery (and if that event ever gets described in the article, then the picture could legitimately stay there :-) Vmenkov (talk) 14:35, 13 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-13T14:35:00.000Z","author":"Vmenkov","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vmenkov-2009-09-13T14:35:00.000Z-Jack1755-2009-09-13T14:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Bringing order to the articles about Russian railway stations/terminals is something I've been eyeballing for the past several years and never found time to get involved with. Of course I'll be more than happy to assist in whatever way I can, if you need help.

I have posted a comment to your proposal. May I suggest you also move it to where it would be more visible for people to comment on and extend the scope of the proposal to include Wikipedia's naming convention for Russian stations/terminals, and not just the Commons? WT:RUSSIA is probably not a bad place to start. Cheers,—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 13:39, September 15, 2009 (UTC)

Nice work on Avtozavodsky City District, Nizhny Novgorod. Your help would be greatly appreciated starting missing articls on Districts of Russia. Himalayan 16:03, 19 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-19T16:03:00.000Z","author":"Himalayan Explorer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Himalayan_Explorer-2009-09-19T16:03:00.000Z-Hello!","replies":[]}}-->

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Greetings Mr. Vmenkov,

Nice to meet you.

Could you kindly help me translate this article into the unique and delightful Dungan language? Please.

真耶稣教会，是二十世纪初在中国出现的新教派别，由张灵生跟魏保罗创始于1917年。这个教会的目标是更正各只教派对“圣经”的错误解释，并把拯救万民的真福音传遍世界，以便迎接耶稣再来。现主要分布在香港，新加坡，台湾及中国各地。真耶稣教会包括二十世纪初由美国传入的安息日会，信心会，神召会等教派的某些教义。他们也强调信独一真神；靠赶鬼祷告治病，礼拜时，要信徒跪下同声祈祷，或唱灵歌，跳灵舞。十大基本信条是:

1. 信圣灵
2. 信洗礼
3. 信脚洗礼
4. 信圣餐礼
5. 信安息日
6. 信耶稣
7. 信圣经
8. 信得救
9. 信教会
10. 信最后的审判

Pinyin:

"Zhēn Yēsū Jiàohuì" shì èrshí shìjì chū zài Zhōngguó chūxiàn dì Xīnjiāo pàibié, yóu Zhāng Língshēng gēn Wèi Bǎoluó chuāng shǐ yú 1917 nián. Zhègè jiàohuì dì mùbiāo shì gēngzhèng gè zhī jiào pài duì shèngjīng dì cuòwù jiěshì bìng bǎ zhěngjiù wàn mín dì zhēn fúyīn chuán biàn shìjiè yǐbiàn yíngjiē Yēsū zài lái. Xiàn zhǔyào fēnbù zài Xiānggǎng, Táiwān jí Zhōngguó gèdì. Zhēn Yēsū Jiàohuì bāokuò èrshí shìjì chū yóu Měiguó chuán rù dì ānxírì huì, Xìnxīn huì, Shénzhào huì děng jiào pài dì mǒuxiē jiào yì. Tāmen yě qiángdiào xìn dúyī zhēn shén kào gǎn guǐ dǎogào zhìbìng, lǐbài shí yào xìntú guìxià tóng shēng qídǎo huò chàng líng gē tiào líng wǔ. Shí dà jīběn xìntiáo shì:

1. Shèng líng
2. Xǐlǐ
3. Jiǎo xǐlǐ
4. Shèng cān lǐ
5. ānxírì
6. Yēsū
7. Shèngjīng
8. Déjiù
9. Jiàohuì
10. Zuìhòu dì shěnpàn

Your help would be very Gratefully Appreciated, Thankyou very much. --Jose77 (talk) 23:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-07-07T23:35:00.000Z","author":"Jose77","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jose77-2009-07-07T23:35:00.000Z-Request_for_Help,_please","replies":["c-Vmenkov-2009-07-28T15:15:00.000Z-Jose77-2009-07-07T23:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Unfortunately, I have no particular knowledge of the language - all I wrote on it was simply the summary of what was in a couple of library books. I don't even speak much standard Chinese, after all! You may perhaps be better off asking somebody who contributed to the corresponding article in the Russian wiki... (One could of course simply "transacribe" the above pinyin into Dungan Cyrilic, but it will be a "fake", and not anything like what a real person from Kyrgyzstan would write, since the correspondence is not exactly 1-to-1) Vmenkov (talk) 15:15, 28 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-07-28T15:15:00.000Z","author":"Vmenkov","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vmenkov-2009-07-28T15:15:00.000Z-Jose77-2009-07-07T23:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

::Hi Vmenkov,

Could you still help me transcribe the article into Dungan Cyrillic? please.

I personally believe that it would still be intelligible to some extent with "real" Dungan.

Besides, you know Dungan vocabulary and grammar more clearly than I do and can also read Cyrillic to an expert level.

Just try your best effort. (any inconsistencies with the actual language can be modified by fluent speakers later on of course) --Jose77 (talk) 01:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC) --Jose77 (talk) 06:31, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-29T01:42:00.000Z","author":"Jose77","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jose77-2009-09-29T01:42:00.000Z-Request_for_Help,_please","replies":[]}}-->