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Irondome, I'm curious, does your username reference Israel's missile defense system? I've looked around on your page and it appears you are likely jewish. Are you by any chance a rabbi? Sincerely, GDP (talk) 08:07, 12 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-12T08:07:00.000Z","author":"GDP Growth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GDP_Growth-2018-08-12T08:07:00.000Z-Username_question","replies":[],"displayName":"GDP"}}-->
I'm just really curious as I'm a Jew myself. --GDP (talk) 23:13, 12 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-12T23:13:00.000Z","author":"GDP Growth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GDP_Growth-2018-08-12T23:13:00.000Z-Username_question","replies":[],"displayName":"GDP"}}-->
Hello, GDPtalk. Indeed, there is a lot of it around. (You will have to get used to my sense of humour, which can be odd).
1/ I like things that make whooshing sounds, a highly sophisticated and costly 'weapon' system which was not designed to take human life appeals to me on several levels.
2/ I identify as an East London ethnic Jew. I am a Liberal Jew, which means we get to have more fun.
3/ I drink and smoke and do very un-rebbe stuff, so I am not a Rabbi. I am interested in Kabbalah.
4/ My personal Rabbi is Danny Rich, who was kind enough to officiate at the funeral of my late mother, Estelle Adler, of blessed memory.
5/ I take the piss out of life in general, and WP absurdities, with the notorious Martinevans123talk. I have sought spiritual advice on this, and have been advised that this is an ethically good thing.
I have been catching up with the subjects you have been editing, and some of the difficulties you and others have encountered by reading all your contributions. This may take a couple of days before I have got what passes for my head, fully around the subject. We must discuss in depth your perception of WP:RS and what media you do use. As I said, I think you are WP:HERE and wish to help. We just need to get you out of your comfort zone. We all do, occasionally. WP:NPOV is the hardest thing to achieve and maintain. It's almost spiritual sometimes. Please read and read and re-read it. It is the oxygen of WP. Without it, the project (I dislike that term) will suffocate. If you wish to assist you, I am quite happy to do that. Kind regards, Simon. Irondome (talk) 01:49, 13 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-13T01:49:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Irondome-2018-08-13T01:49:00.000Z-Username_question","replies":["c-Irondome-2018-08-13T03:18:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-08-13T01:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
One more practice, which you must try, to stop this place becoming a perceived WP:BATTLEGROUND, and for your own health. Reach out, and form relationships with those who do not share your WP:POV. (do not be ashamed of having a point of view, we all do. This links into the concept of controlling it by the ruthless application of WP:NPOV). I have many colleagues who I disagree with in certain world-views. Nishidani, who is a great mate of mine, Malik Shabazz, a gentleman, Onceinawhile, to name just a few. They are all of superb intellect, and there is joy in engaging with them. No one is your enemy here. One's worst enemy is usually one's self. I hope this helps. Irondome (talk) 03:18, 13 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-13T03:18:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Irondome-2018-08-13T03:18:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-08-13T01:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Onceinawhile-2018-08-13T06:39:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-08-13T03:18:00.000Z","c-Nishidani-2018-08-13T07:22:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-08-13T03:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
Dropping in to thank Irondome for his kind words, and to confirm that I share the same perspective. In fact, I find it a greater joy to engage with those who I disagree with in constructive thoughtful discussions, than those who I agree with. And it is a very regular occurrence on I-P Wikipedia talk pages, so long as we don’t get distracted by the trolls on both sides of a given debate. I don’t know of any other forum in the world, either online or offline, which allows for this regularity of constructive discussion on the topic. Some of this is covered at Wikipedia:WikiProject Israel Palestine Collaboration. Onceinawhile (talk) 06:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-13T06:39:00.000Z","author":"Onceinawhile","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Onceinawhile-2018-08-13T06:39:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-08-13T03:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Effmedead! Whaddea away to wake up, shocked at hints I have a bona fides in soiten quarters. 'Bout time I started tracking Irondome and Once's edits, so I can get into some good ol' fights! Cheers pals. Nishidani (talk) 07:22, 13 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-13T07:22:00.000Z","author":"Nishidani","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nishidani-2018-08-13T07:22:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-08-13T03:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-GDP_Growth-2018-08-14T08:23:00.000Z-Nishidani-2018-08-13T07:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hey Simon, I found this about fake news. I guess it's probably not you, expecially as he has an American accent, but an interesting coincidence. I'm more on the conservative side of Judaism, although currently not too involved. (Chabad). I also like things that make wooshing sounds too (SpaceX, Blue Origin, etc.) My country has been making a lot of wooshing related progress lately!!! And will in the future with the Space Force!!!!!!! My first edits on Alex Jones, obviously, were a mess, as I didn't realize after making 10 WP edits that WP has a significant forum-like quality. My first WP edit proposal/argument was also a little of a mess. Depends which part you look at. (I guess you saw it). I did however, at least somewhat, get the hang of contributing properly to that page, as you can see here and here. I have realized that WP can take hours out of a day quite easily. WP will be an occasional (but not too sparse) thing for me. Like I said, I don't know how often I'll be active on WP; I'll be starting college. I might be gone for weeks in a row. And I might only log in once every few days, sporadically. BUT, I think I'm liking the idea of you being my mentor. I don't know exactly what it involves, but if you feel it's okay to do it now, go ahead. -GDP⇧08:23, 14 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-14T08:23:00.000Z","author":"GDP Growth","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-GDP_Growth-2018-08-14T08:23:00.000Z-Nishidani-2018-08-13T07:22:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"-GDP"}}-->
Hi -GDP⇧. It is probably a distant relation. A lot of my clan went to the States, the dim side got off in the UK. I respect the Chabad movement, and Liberal UK Jewish leaders have lately been encouraging a return to
more traditional forms of worship, if one wishes to. I am unsure what the Space Force entails, but sounds a bit Project Horizon. In those days the US and the USSR thought big. Very 50's. If you are comfortable with the idea, tell me your first name. It helps to humanize colleagues. I am ploughing through your edits, trying to get up to speed. The areas you are interested in I don't touch to be honest, but that does not mean I cannot begin to edit them. I have a reasonable knowledge of the subjects. Keep open channels with those you have engaged with my friend, and keep an open mind. I will be on and off in the next week, as me and my partner have taken up Wild camping and bushcraft. Using a tarp, trying to be minimalist. Keeps you young lol. Our concessions to comfort are air beds and a half pint bottle of rum to enliven our tea :). So it's Ray Mears vids on youtube ha ha. Seiously, we love nature, and getting outdoors again will be a big plus for us, after too much city living. I will try to keep up on your edits. Happy to mentor you. I have certain ground rules. Will fill you in on those next week if I have time. You seem to be settling in ok, and not acting like a edit warrior. Those types are impossible to mentor, and I have had a couple. Anyway, see you around. Simon. Irondome (talk) 02:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-15T02:32:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Irondome-2018-08-15T02:32:00.000Z-Username_question","replies":["c-GDP_Growth-2018-08-17T02:46:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-08-15T02:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks. Of course, I don't always have to edit certain subjects if it's easier for you to help me on other types of articles. I hope I'm not too much of an edit warrior. I did recently criticized users for, quite negatively, criticizing me. For instance, I posted a civil request on a user's page referring to a thread I created as "my thread". I was then scolded for calling it "my thread". I don't mean to sound like I'm taking this too heavily. And I actually don't think I rebutted this one. It's just a good example. Some users, of course, have been here fo 10+ years. I guess these users don't realize that I might be a new user, and that I could learn just as easily if they would just nicely point out what I've done wrong. But, in other cases, the complaints are completely unprecedented. I think if I stayed away from controversial political articles, this wouldn't happen. Anyways, ליאם is my name. Although, I think it's best if I maintain some level of confidentiality. Just don't use it too often outside this TP :). -GDP⇧02:46, 17 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-17T02:46:00.000Z","author":"GDP Growth","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GDP_Growth-2018-08-17T02:46:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-08-15T02:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"-GDP"}}-->
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Dont worry, I got your ass covered. cheers--DBigXrayᗙ23:06, 26 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-26T23:06:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DBigXray-2018-08-26T23:06:00.000Z-Disable_the_templates_while_posting.","replies":["c-Irondome-2018-08-26T23:08:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-08-26T23:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
LOL appreciated bro! Si Irondome (talk) 23:08, 26 August 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-08-26T23:08:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Irondome-2018-08-26T23:08:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-08-26T23:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Jahangir (31 August 1569 – 28 October 1627) was the fourth Mughal Emperor, who ruled the Mughal Empire from 1605 until his death in 1627. Pictured is a 17th century painting of Jahangir hunting with a falcon.
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The People's Republic of Angola covers the period of Angolan history as a self-declared socialist state established in 1975 to the time it was dismantled in 1992.
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Congratulations on your first article - I imagine after all that hard work you probably need a cuppa. Yunshui雲水11:20, 14 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-14T11:20:00.000Z","author":"Yunshui","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yunshui-2018-09-14T11:20:00.000Z-A_cup_of_tea_for_you!","replies":["c-Irondome-2018-09-14T15:29:00.000Z-Yunshui-2018-09-14T11:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi Yunshui雲水! Really appreciated. I do like me Tea. However, Ritchie333 (talk), Theroadislong (talk) and Martinevans123 (talk) took my rather feeble twenty word stub and turned it into an article. 78.26(spin me / revolutions) was kind enough to vet if for a forthcoming DYK spot also. It was a real collective effort, and showed how helpful and generous colleagues can be with their time. It really opened my eyes to the potential of this place, and I have been here since 2012. I just channeled their inner WP:SQUIRREL :) Really appreciated Yunshui, see you around! Simon Irondome (talk) 15:29, 14 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-14T15:29:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Irondome-2018-09-14T15:29:00.000Z-Yunshui-2018-09-14T11:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yunshui-2018-09-14T20:55:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-09-14T15:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
Basically all the best things about Wikipedia in microcosm. Yunshui雲水20:55, 14 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-14T20:55:00.000Z","author":"Yunshui","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yunshui-2018-09-14T20:55:00.000Z-Irondome-2018-09-14T15:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Irondome-2018-09-14T21:29:00.000Z-Yunshui-2018-09-14T20:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
Precisely Yunshui雲水. You know how WP can feel toxic at times, what with the drama boards, RfA issues, cliques and some difficult regulars. Sometimes it just makes you want to say sod this for a game of soldiers and leave. But then you have an almost textbook example of how it could be, as above. It's a schizophrenic atmosphere sometimes.. I'm sure you get that buzz too sometimes Yunshi. Irondome (talk) 21:29, 14 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-14T21:29:00.000Z","author":"Irondome","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Irondome-2018-09-14T21:29:00.000Z-Yunshui-2018-09-14T20:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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lol!Simon Adler (talk) 15:08, 15 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-15T15:08:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-09-15T15:08:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2018-09-15T15:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kafka_Liz-2018-09-15T18:06:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-09-15T15:08:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hey Liz! How you been? I hope you and Ceoil is doing good. Yeah, name change. Time to put away childish things lol! Simon Adler (talk) 18:25, 15 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-15T18:25:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-09-15T18:25:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2018-09-15T18:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Doing well! Most of my mischief is elsewhere these days, but I do check in from time to time. Hard not to. Kafka Liz (talk) 09:25, 16 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-16T09:25:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2018-09-16T09:25:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2018-09-15T18:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ceoil-2018-09-15T18:54:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2018-09-16T09:25:00.000Z"]}}-->
Are you this guy? I hope not; would be disappointed to heard you died in 1934. Ceoil (talk) 18:54, 15 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-15T18:54:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ceoil-2018-09-15T18:54:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2018-09-16T09:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-09-15T19:13:00.000Z-Ceoil-2018-09-15T18:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
Ohh err! You learn something every day on WP! Yeah well I dropped the 'L' and went to see Colin Clive who was taking Method acting way too seriously, and was sidelining in cryonics, which isn't the name for a band but should be. The rest, as they say is history. Simon Adler (talk) 19:13, 15 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-15T19:13:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-09-15T19:13:00.000Z-Ceoil-2018-09-15T18:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Well, deceased or not, its always great to see you about. Al lot has happened since 1934; WWII and Britney Spears and what have you. Ceoil (talk) 09:06, 16 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-16T09:06:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ceoil-2018-09-16T09:06:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2018-09-15T15:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-09-15T19:00:00.000Z-Ceoil-2018-09-16T09:06:00.000Z"]}}-->
I confused you for a moment with Samuel Adler (composer), another ibox thing without me ;) - congrats to your first article, after all these years! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:00, 15 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-15T19:00:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-09-15T19:00:00.000Z-Ceoil-2018-09-16T09:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-09-15T19:13:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2018-09-15T19:00:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thank you so much Gerda my dear :) Well I am very slow, but maybe I can start to do more. And I had a lot of help too! Simon Adler (talk) 19:13, 15 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-15T19:13:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-09-15T19:13:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2018-09-15T19:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Really appreciate that GAB. To be honest i'm torn on it. Simon Adler (talk) 20:05, 16 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-16T20:05:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-09-16T20:05:00.000Z-GeneralizationsAreBad-2018-09-16T19:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-GeneralizationsAreBad-2018-09-16T20:07:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-09-16T20:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
I understand your ambivalence, but am happy to continue the conversation on- or off-wiki. GABgab20:07, 16 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-16T20:07:00.000Z","author":"GeneralizationsAreBad","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GeneralizationsAreBad-2018-09-16T20:07:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-09-16T20:05:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"GAB"}}-->
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Musicians at a pub session, an event that involves playing music and/or singing in the relaxed social setting of a local pub, in which the music-making is intermingled with the consumption of ale, stout, and beer and conversation.
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Hello Simon Adler, thank you for your work reviewing New Pages!
The New Page Feed currently has 2700 unreviewed articles, up from just 500 at the start of July. For a while we were falling behind by an average of about 40 articles per day, but we have stabilised more recently. Please review some articles from the back of the queue if you can (Sort by: 'Oldest' at Special:NewPagesFeed), as we are very close to having articles older than one month.
Project news
The New Page Feed now has a new "Articles for Creation" option which will show drafts instead of articles in the feed, this shouldn't impact NPP activities and is part of the WMF's AfC Improvement Project.
As part of this project, the feed will have some larger updates to functionality next month. Specifically, ORES predictions will be built in, which will automatically flag articles for potential issues such as vandalism or spam. Copyright violation detection will also be added to the new page feed. See the projects's talk page for more info.
Some unsuitable new articles can be best reviewed by moving them to the draft space, but reviewers need to do this carefully and sparingly. It is most useful for topics that look like they might have promise, but where the article as written would be unlikely to survive AfD. If the article can be easily fixed, or if the only issue is a lack of sourcing that is easily accessible, tagging or adding sources yourself is preferable. If sources do not appear to be available and the topic does not appear to be notable, tagging for deletion is preferable (PROD/AfD/CSD as appropriate). See additional guidance at WP:DRAFTIFY.
If the user moves the draft back to mainspace, or recreates it in mainspace, please do not re-draftify the article (although swapping it to maintain the page history may be advisable in the case of copy-paste moves). AfC is optional except for editors with a clear conflict of interest.
Articles that have been created in contravention of our paid-editing-requirements or written from a blatant NPOV perspective, or by authors with a clear COI might also be draftified at discretion.
The best tool for draftification is User:Evad37/MoveToDraft.js(info). Kindly adapt the text in the dialogue-pop-up as necessary (the default can also be changed like this). Note that if you do not have the Page Mover userright, the redirect from main will be automatically tagged as CSD R2, but in some cases it might be better to make this a redirect to a different page instead.
The Page Mover userright can be useful for New Page Reviewers; occasionally page swapping is needed during NPR activities, and it helps avoid excessive R2 nominations which must be processed by admins. Note that the Page Mover userright has higher requirements than the NPR userright, and is generally given to users active at Requested Moves. Only reviewers who are very experienced and are also very active reviewers are likely to be granted it solely for NPP activities.
List of other useful scripts for New Page Reviewing
Twinkle provides a lot of the same functionality as the page curation tools, and some reviewers prefer to use the Twinkle tools for some/all tasks. It can be activated simply in the gadgets section of 'preferences'. There are also a lot of options available at the Twinkle preferences panel after you install the gadget.
In terms of other gadgets for NPR, HotCat is worth turning on. It allows you to easily add, remove, and change categories on a page, with name suggestions.
MoreMenu also adds a bunch of very useful links for diagnosing and fixing page issues.
User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js(info): Installing scripts doesn't have to be complicated. Go to your common.js and copy importScript( 'User:Equazcion/ScriptInstaller.js' ); into an empty line, now you can install all other scripts with the click of a button from the script page! (Note you need to be at the ".js" page for the script for the install button to appear, not the information page)
User:TheJosh/Scripts/NewPagePatrol.js(info): Creates a scrolling new pages list at the left side of the page. You can change the number of pages shown by adding the following to the next line on your common.js page (immediately after the line importing this script): npp_num_pages=20; (Recommended 20, but you can use any number from 1 to 50).
User:Primefac/revdel.js(info): Is requesting revdel complicated and time consuming? This script helps simplify the process. Just have the Copyvio source URL and go to the history page and collect your diff IDs and you can drop them into the script Popups and it will create a revdel request for you.
User:Evad37/rater.js(info): A fantastic tool for adding WikiProject templates to article talk pages. If you add: rater_autostartNamespaces = 0; to the next line on your common.js, the prompt will pop up automatically if a page has no Wikiproject templates on the talk page (note: this can be a bit annoying if you review redirects or dab pages commonly).
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To those who do, have an easy fast. For those who don't, improve an article and enjoy the simple things
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Signing off until nightfall tomorrow. Have fun. Peace. Simon Adler (talk) 17:05, 18 September 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-09-18T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-09-18T17:05:00.000Z-To_those_who_do,_have_an_easy_fast._For_those_who_don't,_improve_an_article_and","replies":[]}}-->
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I'm asking you to revert your non-admin close. Nothing was "learned" as the editor in question refused to even acknowledge there is something wrong in that kind of behauvior. I believe the close is inappropriate especially in the light of Snow Rise's comment, but I'm not going to revert it myself. Do you think ANI is incapable of reaching a consensus in incivility issues? --Pudeo (talk) 09:51, 26 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-26T09:51:00.000Z","author":"Pudeo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pudeo-2018-10-26T09:51:00.000Z-ANI_close","replies":["c-Softlavender-2018-10-26T12:16:00.000Z-Pudeo-2018-10-26T09:51:00.000Z"]}}-->
I have unclosed. An unresolved thread about incivility should only be closed by an administrator. Softlavender (talk) 12:16, 26 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-26T12:16:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Softlavender-2018-10-26T12:16:00.000Z-Pudeo-2018-10-26T09:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pudeo-2018-10-26T12:24:00.000Z-Softlavender-2018-10-26T12:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Softlavender: thank you. And if someone considers my behauvior in bringing this up as disruptive, they are free to propose a boomerang, although I will disagree with that. --Pudeo (talk) 12:24, 26 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-26T12:24:00.000Z","author":"Pudeo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pudeo-2018-10-26T12:24:00.000Z-Softlavender-2018-10-26T12:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Softlavender-2018-10-26T12:30:00.000Z-Pudeo-2018-10-26T12:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
Well, since I was the person opposing your sub-thread in the first place, and yet I've re-opened it, I think no one will object to your posts here. :) Softlavender (talk) 12:30, 26 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-26T12:30:00.000Z","author":"Softlavender","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Softlavender-2018-10-26T12:30:00.000Z-Pudeo-2018-10-26T12:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T20:41:00.000Z-Softlavender-2018-10-26T12:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
Softlavender, appreciate you dealing with this while I was off-line. Pudeo,yes it would appear that ANI is demonstrably incapable of dealing with 'civility' issues, as was demonstrated in that basically unproductive thread. The community has wildly differing perceptions of 'civility'. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPantsTell me all about it. has been under increasing stress lately, that is my take on this situation. If the thread allowed some venting, then it served it's purpose, and it has hopefully flagged up to MJ that he needs a short break from some of the toxic political areas on WP. Thats my 2p. Simon Adler (talk) 20:41, 26 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-26T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T20:41:00.000Z-Softlavender-2018-10-26T12:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-MjolnirPants-2018-10-27T02:03:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T20:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
I actually backed out of American Politics a while back. There's a note about it at the top of my talk page, because I used to get asked to weigh in on political discussions all the time, and I needed people to know I wasn't going to do that anymore.
My topics of interest these days are conspiracy theories, fringe groups and pseudoscience, plus a few random articles here and there. The problem is that a certain type of politics tends to overlaps with the first two subjects and for the past few months, there's been a bit of a crackdown in enforcement in American Politics, so it's harder for editors with alt-right sympathies to go after liberal editors in those topics. Hence, there's been some spillover. But my preferred topics are no strangers to admin eyes, so it won't be long before there's a crackdown there too, which will ease things up on the few of us who edit there. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPantsTell me all about it.02:03, 27 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-27T02:03:00.000Z","author":"MjolnirPants","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-MjolnirPants-2018-10-27T02:03:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T20:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-10-27T04:05:00.000Z-MjolnirPants-2018-10-27T02:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u16d7\u16c1\u16df\u16da\u16be\u16c1\u16b1Pants"}}-->
Remember my temporary crack-up regarding the totality of politics on User:Drmies page a few months back? You helped me there with some kind words bro. I am so steering clear of stressful topics at the moment, although I sympathised with your position on that timesink of a thread. Things seemed to have got weird there after I tried to close it. Still playing catch-up on the sequence of events there after I crashed. Anyway, see you around MJ. Simon Adler (talk) 04:05, 27 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-27T04:05:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-10-27T04:05:00.000Z-MjolnirPants-2018-10-27T02:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Will ever compete with Monty Python or Mel Brooks for drunken Hilarity. Just thought I'd let you know. ;) ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPantsTell me all about it.02:58, 26 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-26T02:58:00.000Z","author":"MjolnirPants","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MjolnirPants-2018-10-26T02:58:00.000Z-No_Marx_brothers_film...","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T03:04:00.000Z-MjolnirPants-2018-10-26T02:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u16d7\u16c1\u16df\u16da\u16be\u16c1\u16b1Pants"}}-->
High Anxiety and Silent Movie. Oh yeah :) Simon Adler (talk) 03:04, 26 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-26T03:04:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T03:04:00.000Z-MjolnirPants-2018-10-26T02:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-MjolnirPants-2018-10-26T03:07:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T03:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
I was thinking more Blazing Saddles and History of the World, Part I, but those are damn good, too. ᛗᛁᛟᛚᚾᛁᚱPantsTell me all about it.03:07, 26 October 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-10-26T03:07:00.000Z","author":"MjolnirPants","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MjolnirPants-2018-10-26T03:07:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T03:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-10-26T03:12:00.000Z-MjolnirPants-2018-10-26T03:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u16d7\u16c1\u16df\u16da\u16be\u16c1\u16b1Pants"}}-->
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I changed the word "pursuing" because to me it seemed to imply following or pestering, perhaps based in anti-Semitism. Maybe "pursuing conversion of" would be a better replacement?
That may well be. Can you please give me the diff or the article name? My memory is not what it was. Just so we can clarify. Thank you for discussing. Simon Adler (talk) 03:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-02T03:09:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-11-02T03:09:00.000Z-Rervert_question","replies":[]}}-->
Thank you Mjsteiner. On re-reading the section in it's fullest context, I find 'reaching out' to be preferable, in that I believe it is done sincerely, by the lights of those who are attempting to persuade. Therefore I have reverted myself. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Regards, Simon Adler (talk) 03:53, 2 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-02T03:53:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-11-02T03:53:00.000Z-Mjsteiner-2018-11-02T03:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I reverted you. Please, read the discussion at WP:RSN#WebArchive as a source for further details.--Paul Siebert (talk) 04:03, 10 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-10T04:03:00.000Z","author":"Paul Siebert","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Paul_Siebert-2018-11-10T04:03:00.000Z-Kursk","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-11-10T04:25:00.000Z-Paul_Siebert-2018-11-10T04:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
Paul, I am seeing no consensus in the discussion you began at the R/S board. Regarding Primary Sources WP states;
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The discussion seemed to agree on one point, that it was a primary source. From the above, this does not rule it out for usage. We must now explore whether existing secondary sources use this source. If they do, they can be used. I would urge a discussion based on these points on the Kursk T/P. Regards, Simon Adler (talk) 04:25, 10 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-10T04:25:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-11-10T04:25:00.000Z-Paul_Siebert-2018-11-10T04:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Paul_Siebert-2018-11-10T04:33:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-11-10T04:25:00.000Z"]}}-->
Aha, now I see "54,182 men lost during Zitadelle" include KIA, MIA, WIA and POW, right? In that case, I see no apparent contradiction with 52000 KIA+MIA during the whole battle. One problem is resolved. The only problem remains with the source. It is a table from a dead web site. This table provides some rough figures that require some creative interpretation. The procedure according to the figure of 52000 was obtained is not obvious to me. It definitely require some efforts and expertise, so it is an original research. If this figure was reported somewhere, it will be not a problem to find a good secondary source that says the same.
P.S. If that table contained a single figure of losses sustained by the armies involved in the Battle of Kursk, there would be no problem to use this source (although it would be better to make a reference to the Bundesarchiv document, not to the dead blog). However, as you see, to obtain this figure, one has to pick several numbers from several cells, make some assumptions, etc, in other words, to do what professional historians are doing. That is definitely an original research. --Paul Siebert (talk) 04:33, 10 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-10T04:33:00.000Z","author":"Paul Siebert","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Paul_Siebert-2018-11-10T04:33:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-11-10T04:25:00.000Z","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-11-10T04:46:00.000Z-Paul_Siebert-2018-11-10T04:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
Indeed Paul. I think a discussion on the talk page exploring where reliable sources have got these figures from wouls be fruitful. Over 20 years of studying the engagements the figures for nazi losses have been remarkably consistent, certainly after Soviet historiography was deprecated post 1989. I think this would be an interesting group exploration. Pinging Denniss as an obviously interested colleague in this. Regards Simon Adler (talk) 04:46, 10 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-10T04:46:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-11-10T04:46:00.000Z-Paul_Siebert-2018-11-10T04:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I'll respond here for ease of conversation, through I have no objection if you copy my comment to the other discussion and reply there. I appreciate your detailed explanation of your reasons, to which I'll reply: 1) as far as I am aware, the views in your first bullet point are your own and do not represent a consensus for what makes a DYK. In particular, I do not believe there is any consensus for DYKs being limited to non-controversial topics. As I noted elsewhere, this is a dangerous turn away from WP:NOTCENSORED. Now, this is my personal POV, but I consider censorship to be more dangerous to society that taking offence, and censorship to avoid offence is IMHO no more dangerous than censorship through copyright (perhaps an article I should write). 2) Another editor I think raised the recent Pittsburgh massacre. All unfortunate, but coincidences, and English Wikipedia is global. If we try to take into account everyone who may be offended because some past or present coincidence, we would not publish anything (should we not publish any DYKs related to males on International Women's Day? Etc. It's a slippery slope once we start making any such gestures, also problematic from the neutrality standpoing - as in, trying not to offend group A may offend group B). Now, I have no problems delaying a DYK for a few days or even a week or two, because I don't particularly care which day it is displayed, but in principle, again, I fear this opens a lot of window to abuse (censorship) of Wikipedia. (I also just noticed there's no article on Category:Criticism of political correctness... 3) Re: Polish-Jewish issues. Errr. I am not aware this particular proverb has been part of any media controversy related to those issues, so it's a good example of how we can censor a ton of content (any topic related to Polish Jewish history) because of some mildly related general controversy. Not too mention this is all inconsistent, this years I've DYKed articles on Polish-Jewish topics such as , Eliezer Gruenbaum, The Black Book of Polish Jewry and Secret City (book). Neither of them have raised any concerns, and TBH I think that the case of Gruenbaum is much more controversial than the current proverb (it has been discussed in media quite extensively, unlike the said proverb which nobody but one academic cares about). Or consider Report to the Secretary on the Acquiescence of This Government in the Murder of the Jews, how come nobody raised issues that this article is not very favorable of the US government? Or Embassy of Japan in Seoul, surely some Japanese or Korean people could be offended by the that topic (since the embassy is mainly notable for some anti-Japanese/Korean clashes it has been a site of). My recent DYK on Lü Ban (director) is surely offensive to the Chinese government (which already blocks Wikipedia, but if we make a good showing of not DYKing, and preferably deleting such articles, maybe Wikipedia will be less controversial to the Chinese Communist Partyand will get unblocked, hmmm?). Singling out this one DYK is problematic on so many levels I can't believe this discussion is still ongoing. But to finish on a positive note, it certainly resulted in the article being significantly improved, and it is certainly even a better candidate for a DYK than it was a while back. Any suggestions for a neutral hook are appreciated, and I invite you to join discussions on article's talk (through everything has been pretty stable for the last few days, I think). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here07:04, 15 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-15T07:04:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2018-11-15T07:04:00.000Z-re:_Dyk_issues","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-11-15T07:37:00.000Z-Piotrus-2018-11-15T07:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->
I appreciate your measured and detailed response, Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here, I shall check through some of the article examples you have given, although I do not think this is fundamentally a question of censorship, rather the maturity of an article, whether it's hook matches it's development and sourcing, and whether the community has had a chance to review a new article. Not all new articles are DYK candidates. Some have more illustrious futures, such as GA, or even FA. There seems to be a race to get new articles DYK attention. I'm not sure about that to be honest. Better an older article crafted to FA status. However, I do want to get more involved in DYK disussions and procedures, so this is perhaps opportune. Any advice or guidance would be welcomed.Regards, Simon Adler (talk) 07:37, 15 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-15T07:37:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-11-15T07:37:00.000Z-Piotrus-2018-11-15T07:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Piotrus-2018-11-15T12:26:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-11-15T07:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
Let me answer this as someone who has written literally 1000+ DYKs over 10+ year period (which doesn't mean I know all there is about DYKs, but I speak with a bit of experience). In theory, all new articles are eligible for DYKs if the meet DYK criteria, in reality, on a faction are DYKed because 99% of article creators don't know/care about DYKs, and if they did, we would have a backlog from here to the Moon. Please take a look at Wikipedia:Did_you_know#Eligibility_criteria. Note points 3 and 4. There is nothing about a topic being controversial - it is just that the article has to be neutral. If there are neutrality concerns, a DYK nom can be put on hold, for weeks if needed, until disputes are resolved, at which time it can go through. I have also did a cursory review of WT:DYK, and there's no consensus for controversial topics to be excluded - in fact, on the contrary, DYK rules prescribe that the hook should be interesting (and we know that controversy is interesting). In addition to my DYKs I mentioned, please take a look at Wikipedia:Did_you_know/Statistics#All-time_DYK_page_view_leaders, and consider how many of those are controversial (".... that Pope Pius XII did not condemn the roundup and deportation of more than a thousand Jews "under his very windows" 75 years ago today?" or "... that the Padule di Fucecchio massacre, in which at least 174 Italian civilians were murdered, has been described as "one of the worst Nazi atrocities in Italy"?"). Being a controversial topic is not a problem for a DYK. If the article is neutral, and the hook is referenced and interesting, it's enough. Per WP:IAR, we can of course bend the rules when needed in various ways, but in my 1000+ DYKs I've never had the 'too controversial' issue raised, and as I said above, I consider this line of argument very dangerous for Wikipedia (as I fear the censorship by political correctness would be a death knell for this project). On a final note, I invite you to reread the article on Jewish Paradise, and let us know on the talk if there is any way we can make it more neutral. Cheers, --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here12:26, 15 November 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-11-15T12:26:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Piotrus-2018-11-15T12:26:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-11-15T07:37:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->
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Maybe you just need a little 20-year nap? Martinevans123 (talk) 16:42, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T16:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2018-12-02T16:42:00.000Z-Tired_of_it_all?","replies":[]}}-->
Or a week? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:44, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T16:44:00.000Z-Tired_of_it_all?","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Well I just voted for the new arsecom. You can too. Just vote oppose for all of them. I did and it gave me a risus sardonicus for about 20 secs. Big fun. They are all a bunch of orkney settlements. Simon Adler (talk) 17:48, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T16:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2018-12-02T19:04:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z","c-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:10:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z","c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T19:18:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z","c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:22:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for the trenchant political analysis, there. It is exciting, isn't it. Yes, they gave me a risus sardonicus, but I took it back to the store and got it exchanged for something more useful. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:04, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:04:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2018-12-02T19:04:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
LoL these weird diseases aside, isn't voting oppose for all almost akin to not voting ?--DBigXrayᗙ19:10, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:10:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:10:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
I put on my special Hi-Viz yellow vest while I did it, so no, User:DBigXray it was a highly significant political moment. Simon Adler (talk) 19:18, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:18:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T19:18:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:35:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T19:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
I see, you just had your NOTA moment. I do love my Hi Viz yellows, but how is it relevant here, any cultural clues that I am missing ? --DBigXrayᗙ19:35, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:35:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:35:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T19:18:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
Voting neutral is not voting. If everybody voted all oppose, no new member would be elected. - I know three candidates for whom I'd vote. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:22, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:22:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T17:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T19:32:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:22:00.000Z","c-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:33:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
We should stop encouraging hierarchies on here Gerda. I'm not voting in any RfA's anymore either. That will show them innit? Simon Adler (talk) 19:32, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:32:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T19:32:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:51:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T19:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
I don't think that you looked ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:51:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:51:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-02T19:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Gerda, yes, theoretically that (all voting oppose, and none elected) is possible but practically it is highly unlikely. At least I for one, crapped on those plans by voting support. --DBigXrayᗙ19:33, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:33:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:33:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:51:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:33:00.000Z","c-Martinevans123-2018-12-02T19:58:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
I also supported, see? - I just answered the question. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:51, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:51:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2018-12-02T19:51:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Some of us are quite happy to wait the five years until 23.59 on Sunday 3rd December.Martinevans123 (talk) 19:58, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T19:58:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2018-12-02T19:58:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-12-02T19:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
We all need an occasional wiki-break sometimes, or just a slow-down. Just know that we're all here for you, and thinking of you. - BilCat (talk) 22:02, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T22:02:00.000Z","author":"BilCat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BilCat-2018-12-02T22:02:00.000Z-Tired_of_it_all?","replies":[]}}-->
Did someone say Hi Viz? Throw a smoke-bomb for me. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:25, 2 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-02T23:25:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2018-12-02T23:25:00.000Z-Tired_of_it_all?","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2018-12-03T09:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2018-12-02T23:25:00.000Z"]}}-->
.... You know, Simon….. voting at Arbcom is very much like making love to a beautiful woman! First you get warmed up with a few suggestive questions. Then there’s the opportunity for reliving past intimate encounters and maybe for a bit of lively back and forth... before you finally plant your big fat tick in the box (... or just a small cross, of course). Swiss Marti 123 (talk) 09:42, 3 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-03T09:42:00.000Z","author":"Martinevans123","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Martinevans123-2018-12-03T09:42:00.000Z-Martinevans123-2018-12-02T23:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I note you are not moving this issue to the talk page. 92.39.207.50 (talk) 16:23, 8 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-08T16:23:00.000Z","author":"92.39.207.50","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-92.39.207.50-2018-12-08T16:23:00.000Z-North_American_F-86_Sabre","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-08T16:25:00.000Z-92.39.207.50-2018-12-08T16:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
I have asked you to join me there in my edit summary. Your reversion barely gave me enough time to write this. Slow down please. Simon Adler (talk) 16:25, 8 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-08T16:25:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-08T16:25:00.000Z-92.39.207.50-2018-12-08T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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HappyHolidays!
Wishing you much joy & happiness now and every year!!
Merry Christmas - Happy Hanukkah‼️
When does New Year’s Day come before Christmas Day?
Every year!
What do you call a bankrupt Santa?
Saint Nickel-less.
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Ha ha thanks Atsme✍🏻📧! I like it, and I may have to 'borrow' it because I got no wit or imagination lol Simon Adler (talk) 21:03, 13 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-13T21:03:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-13T21:03:00.000Z-Atsme-2018-12-13T20:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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[FBDB] When you fuck up a ping [2], it cannot be unfucked by editing. You gotta start fresh and at a new place(line), if you really want the fucks to be given. see WP:PING--DBigXrayᗙ15:07, 15 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-15T15:07:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DBigXray-2018-12-15T15:07:00.000Z-Fucked_up_ping","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-15T15:19:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-12-15T15:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
Frankly I can't be arsed DbX. The great leader has bigger pings to fry. He is probably advising a world leader even as we type. Simon Adler (talk) 15:19, 15 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-15T15:19:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-15T15:19:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-12-15T15:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-DBigXray-2018-12-15T23:21:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-15T15:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
Sure, but do remember this, so that your genuine SOS to someone doesn't get fucked up. Just add a new line with a ping and remember to add your signature after the comment as well. pings don't get sent if you miss to add your signature in the same comment.--DBigXrayᗙ23:21, 15 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-15T23:21:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DBigXray-2018-12-15T23:21:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-15T15:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-15T23:29:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-12-15T23:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
DBigXrayᗙ I appreciate that bro, it's something I didn't know about. I started a thread on the Dear Leader's T/P b.t.w..chances of getting a response are bugger all. LMAO! See you later DbX Simon Adler (talk) 23:29, 15 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-15T23:29:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-15T23:29:00.000Z-DBigXray-2018-12-15T23:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-DBigXray-2018-12-15T23:36:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-15T23:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
, if not he then someone else may respond and do the needful if something really needs to be done. take care. --DBigXrayᗙ23:36, 15 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-15T23:36:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-DBigXray-2018-12-15T23:36:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2018-12-15T23:29:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
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Voting now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
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I hope you don't get the wrong impression and think I'm anal about the smallest details, like when I went back and corrected that image caption. (short pause) Ok, well I am. 😉 Atsme✍🏻📧03:43, 16 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-16T03:43:00.000Z","author":"Atsme","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Atsme-2018-12-16T03:43:00.000Z-Impressions","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-16T03:57:00.000Z-Atsme-2018-12-16T03:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
Atsme✍🏻📧 Me too [3]! We have much in common..😉 Simon Adler (talk) 03:57, 16 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-16T03:57:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-16T03:57:00.000Z-Atsme-2018-12-16T03:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Baa humbug, from beyond the grave. Hope you don't choke on the chicken. (The late) Ceoil (talk) 19:03, 16 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-16T19:03:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceoil-2018-12-16T19:03:00.000Z-Merry_fucking_christmass","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-16T19:11:00.000Z-Ceoil-2018-12-16T19:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
yeeeeeessssssssssssssssssssssssssssss! The scarf of power (patent pending) shielded you from Fred's kosmic krap beam! Hurrahh! Simon Adler (talk) 19:11, 16 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-16T19:11:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-16T19:11:00.000Z-Ceoil-2018-12-16T19:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and troll-free. Ealdgyth - Talk17:08, 18 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-18T17:08:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2018-12-18T17:08:00.000Z-Happy_Saturnalia","replies":["c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2018-12-18T17:08:00.000Z"]}}-->
That's very thoughtful of you Ealdgyth! Have a happy and stress-free time. Simon Adler (talk) 17:12, 18 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-18T17:12:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2018-12-18T17:12:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2018-12-18T17:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
Hello SA,
Early in A Child's Christmas in Wales the young Dylan and his friend Jim Prothero witness smoke pouring from Jim's home. After the conflagration has been extinguished Dylan writes that
Nobody could have had a noisier Christmas Eve. And when the firemen turned off the hose and were standing in the wet, smoky room, Jim's Aunt, Miss. Prothero, came downstairs and peered in at them. Jim and I waited, very quietly, to hear what she would say to them. She said the right thing, always. She looked at the three tall firemen in their shining helmets, standing among the smoke and cinders and dissolving snowballs, and she said, "Would you like anything to read?"
My thanks to you for your efforts to keep the 'pedia readable in case the firemen chose one of our articles :-) Best wishes to you and yours and happy editing in 2019. MarnetteD|Talk22:53, 18 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-18T22:53:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2018-12-18T22:53:00.000Z-Merry_Merry","replies":[]}}-->
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Best wishes for this holiday season! Thank you for your Wiki contributions in 2018. May 2019 be prosperous and joyful. --K.e.coffman (talk) 22:16, 21 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-21T22:16:00.000Z","author":"K.e.coffman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-K.e.coffman-2018-12-21T22:16:00.000Z-Happy_Holidays","replies":[]}}-->
Noël ~ καλά Χριστούγεννα ~ З Калядамі ~ חנוכה שמח ~ Gott nytt år!
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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year
Hi Simon Adler, I wish you and your family a very Merry Christmas and a very Happy and Prosperous New Year, Thanks for all your help and thanks for all your contributions to the 'pedia,
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Simon Adler, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia.
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Good to know that you are still enjoying your New year bash. cheers. --DBigXrayᗙ18:40, 5 January 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-05T18:40:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DBigXray-2019-01-05T18:40:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year,_Simon_Adler!-1","replies":[],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
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Not too late, I hope ;) --Gerda Arendt (talk) 13:09, 13 January 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-13T13:09:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2019-01-13T13:09:00.000Z-2019","replies":[]}}-->
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Thunder RoadKafka Liz (talk) 10:38, 20 January 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-20T10:38:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:38:00.000Z-Happy","replies":["c-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:46:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
Ignore the hair; it’s a product of the times. *This* is the best version of this song. Kafka Liz (talk) 10:46, 20 January 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-20T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:46:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:49:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
I’ve actually driven this route, though it’s a bit different these days. Kafka Liz (talk) 10:49, 20 January 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-20T10:49:00.000Z","author":"Kafka Liz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:49:00.000Z-Kafka_Liz-2019-01-20T10:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Hi Simon Adler - I'm a Stanford student working on a project on how to improve Wikipedia edit abuse filtering. Would you be willing to talk for 20-30 minutes about your experience working with Wikipedia over the years? Anything you can share would be incredibly helpful! You can contact me at [email protected]. Thank you and apologies if I misused your page in any way! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:681:4D00:8BA0:D871:9D55:1510:36F (talk) 23:21, 20 January 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-01-20T23:21:00.000Z","author":"2601:681:4D00:8BA0:D871:9D55:1510:36F","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2601:681:4D00:8BA0:D871:9D55:1510:36F-2019-01-20T23:21:00.000Z-Help_a_Stanford_student_project?","replies":[]}}-->
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I am very ashamed that I did not return the kind messages over the holiday period and the many emails I have received. I ran away. Serious depression and a realisation that I am not a useful contributor has kept me away. I have not retired and my absence was no political/philosophical/WP comment. Just felt the walls closing in. My heartfelt apologies. Si. Simon Adler (talk) 03:44, 16 February 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-16T03:44:00.000Z","author":"Simon Adler","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Simon_Adler-2019-02-16T03:44:00.000Z-I'm_not_dead._To_my_friends\/pagewatchers","replies":["c-DBigXray-2019-02-16T03:58:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2019-02-16T03:44:00.000Z","c-BilCat-2019-02-16T04:10:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2019-02-16T03:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Viva la Vida. Who says that you aren't a useful contributor. These impressivenumbers don't lie. --DBigXrayᗙ03:58, 16 February 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-16T03:58:00.000Z","author":"DBigXray","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DBigXray-2019-02-16T03:58:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2019-02-16T03:44:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"DBig"}}-->
Thanks for letting us know you're still around. Come back when you able, we miss your presence when you're not on. - BilCat (talk) 04:10, 16 February 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-02-16T04:10:00.000Z","author":"BilCat","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BilCat-2019-02-16T04:10:00.000Z-Simon_Adler-2019-02-16T03:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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This month's refresher course
Why I Hate Speedy Deleters, a 2008 essay by long since retired Ballonman, is still as valid today. Those of us who patrol large numbers of new pages can be forgiven for making the occasional mistake while others can learn from their 'beginner' errors. Worth reading.
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G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-15T03:37:00.000Z","author":"Peacemaker67","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Peacemaker67-2019-09-15T03:37:00.000Z-Milhist_coordinator_election_voting_has_commenced_2","replies":[]}}-->
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark
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G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:36, 22 September 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-09-22T07:36:00.000Z","author":"Peacemaker67","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Peacemaker67-2019-09-22T07:36:00.000Z-Wikiproject_Military_history_coordinator_election_half-way_mark","replies":[]}}-->
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Animation illustrating the discovery history of satellite galaxies of the Milky Way over the last 100 years. The classical satellite galaxies are in blue (labeled with their names), SDSS-discoveries are in red, and more recent discoveries (mostly with DES) are in green.
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