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I notice you have some "declined" drafts last submitted 5 months ago (i.e. in October). Please be aware that these are subject to deletion after 6 months with no activity (see WP:Deletion policy). Fabrickator (talk) 14:45, 2 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240402144500","author":"Fabrickator","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fabrickator-20240402144500-drafts_from_October_2023","replies":["c-Qcne-20240402201100-Fabrickator-20240402144500"]}}-->

Hey @Fabrickator, these were probably drafts I moved to draftspace and declined as part of AfC, I'm not the author. Qcne (talk) 20:11, 2 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240402201100","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20240402201100-Fabrickator-20240402144500","replies":[]}}-->
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Concern regarding Draft:Etienne Zack

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Luis Armando Robledo salazar

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Hi! As you suggested me to re-write the article and make it neutral, i did. Could you re-review the draft as it is again up on AFC. गांधार नरेश (talk) 05:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240327052300","author":"\u0917\u093e\u0902\u0927\u093e\u0930 \u0928\u0930\u0947\u0936","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u0917\u093e\u0902\u0927\u093e\u0930_\u0928\u0930\u0947\u0936-20240327052300-Draft:Kholesvara","replies":["c-Rockparker-20240416165300-\u0917\u093e\u0902\u0927\u093e\u0930_\u0928\u0930\u0947\u0936-20240327052300","c-Rockparker-20240416165900-\u0917\u093e\u0902\u0927\u093e\u0930_\u0928\u0930\u0947\u0936-20240327052300"]}}-->

Sir, I have made corrections in Kaushik Das's article, can I get permission to publish it now? Sorry this is my first time that's I did many mistakes Rockparker (talk) 16:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240416165300","author":"Rockparker","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rockparker-20240416165300-\u0917\u093e\u0902\u0927\u093e\u0930_\u0928\u0930\u0947\u0936-20240327052300","replies":["c-Qcne-20240416165600-Rockparker-20240416165300"]}}-->
It will need proper referencing @Rockparker, by following the tutorial at WP:INTREFVE. Every statement must be referenced.
As you have cleaned up the language I will remove the speedy deletion tag. Qcne (talk) 16:56, 16 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240416165600","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Qcne-20240416165600-Rockparker-20240416165300","replies":[]}}-->
Sorry sir can you explain me about again up on afc AFC , what should I do for this article , give me one chance to improve this Rockparker (talk) 16:59, 16 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240416165900","author":"Rockparker","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Rockparker-20240416165900-\u0917\u093e\u0902\u0927\u093e\u0930_\u0928\u0930\u0947\u0936-20240327052300","replies":["c-Qcne-20240416181900-Rockparker-20240416165900"]}}-->
As I said, it will need proper referencing. Convert your references to Wikipedia references by following the tutorial at WP:INTREFVE. Qcne (talk) 18:19, 16 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240416181900","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Qcne-20240416181900-Rockparker-20240416165900","replies":[]}}-->
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I've added content related to the references. Can you take another look at it? 8644johankim (talk) 16:07, 17 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240417160700","author":"8644johankim","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-8644johankim-20240417160700-Regarding_Draft:NEW_ID","replies":["c-Qcne-20240417172100-8644johankim-20240417160700"]}}-->

Hi @8644johankim. Sorry, still not convinced it passes WP:NORG with your current sources. They are mostly press releases or do not provide significant coverage. We'd need at least three independent sources that discuss the service in detail, not just reporting on regular press releases. Qcne (talk) 17:21, 17 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240417172100","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20240417172100-8644johankim-20240417160700","replies":["c-8644johankim-20240417175900-Qcne-20240417172100","c-8644johankim-20240417180300-Qcne-20240417172100","c-8644johankim-20240417180500-Qcne-20240417172100"]}}-->
https://variety.com/vip/behind-the-growth-in-international-fast-content-1235699801/
https://jeremyletter.com/kcontents-fast-channel-increase-in-us-new-id-aggregator-binge-korea/
https://www.copyright.or.kr/information-materials/trend/the-copyright/viewPress.do?brdctsno=52372
This is not regular press releases. Right? 8644johankim (talk) 17:59, 17 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240417175900","author":"8644johankim","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-8644johankim-20240417175900-Qcne-20240417172100","replies":[]}}-->
We are a startup company, and we are following a path very similar to that of Xumo. When comparing our content with Xumo's, it's hard to find differences. Many professional articles mention us, but it seems easily mistaken for PR. Despite making many changes based on objective information, could there still be a problem? I'm not sure what the standard is 8644johankim (talk) 18:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240417180300","author":"8644johankim","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-8644johankim-20240417180300-Qcne-20240417172100","replies":[]}}-->
As a Korean company doing business in North America, despite numerous searches and articles mentioning us (that are not our PR), what kind of coverage do we still need? 8644johankim (talk) 18:05, 17 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240417180500","author":"8644johankim","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-8644johankim-20240417180500-Qcne-20240417172100","replies":[]}}-->
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Thank you for approved my article. Can you please check my other 2 articles? That's clearly notable. The subjects are in title of CNN, BCC and... I guess other reviewer doesn't checked well.

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Hi @Claggy, as horrible as it sounds the Mirhashemi draft does not prove notability.. your sources are reliable, but they only have brief mentions of him as part of the trio that were executed. This doesn't prove notability by itself. Whereas the Golestani article has sources that go into her in-depth.
As such I can't approve the Mirhashemi draft at this time, sorry.
The Tasvir draft has a similar issue in that none of the sources are about the social media account, instead just reporting what the social media account has posted. Are there any sources that have the account as the primary focus of the source? Qcne (talk) 17:14, 17 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240417171400","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20240417171400-Claggy-20240417162800","replies":["c-Claggy-20240417183900-Qcne-20240417171400"]}}-->
Thank you for informations. Yes, both of them are about Mahsa Amini protests and have reliable sources as CNN and BBC but in Persian languages. I already linked both Persian Wikipedias in External links section. And all links are from global news agencies because Iran government news hide the cases.
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Hi again @Claggy. I agree that the sources are reliable, that isn't an issue at all. The problem is that the sources do not show WP:SIGCOV.
Whereas the article I accepted about Golestani has significant coverage of her in multiple sources.
We'd need that significant coverage to prove "notability" by how the English Wikipedia define it. The Persian Wikipedia is a totally separate project with separate guidelines and notability requirements.
Let me know if you have questions? Qcne (talk) 08:33, 18 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240418083300","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Qcne-20240418083300-Claggy-20240417183900","replies":["c-Claggy-20240419044300-Qcne-20240418083300"]}}-->
@Qcne: Thank you for help. I am new and always try to learning. I read WP:SIGCOV. Help a lot for my next articles. Claggy (talk) 04:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240419044300","author":"Claggy","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Claggy-20240419044300-Qcne-20240418083300","replies":["c-Qcne-20240419115000-Claggy-20240419044300"]}}-->
No worries @Claggy, Wikipedia has a lot of policies and guidelines! It's a lot to learn. Qcne (talk) 11:50, 19 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240419115000","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Qcne-20240419115000-Claggy-20240419044300","replies":["c-Claggy-20240419115300-Qcne-20240419115000"]}}-->
@Qcne: I attention the guidelines then wrote 3 more articles. Please kindly and check:
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Hi @Claggy. Accepted Zohrevand.
Sadrat; I've added some maintenance tags where there are some issues to resolve. For example, I couldn't see from source #7 that the proceedings were done in an opaque manner.
Ebrahimi: I feel like the Arrest section is a little confusingly written. What was banned? The Cutlet metaphor could also be explained better. Qcne (talk) 12:15, 19 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240419121500","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Qcne-20240419121500-Claggy-20240419115300","replies":[]}}-->
@Qcne: Thank you.
Sadrat: I added new sources (7, 8, 11 and 12) by Iran Wire, BBC Persian and Iran Human Rights. Google translate can help you. Also this English sources can prove he did not have access to his desired lawyer: 1
Ebrahimi Him Instagram account had 3M followers but after arrested closed by Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps. 1, 2. Also I fixed missundrestand in Arrested section and added sources for more clearly.
Sorry English is not my fluent. Claggy (talk) 13:01, 19 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240419130100","author":"Claggy","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Claggy-20240419130100-Claggy-20240419115300","replies":["c-Qcne-20240419200300-Claggy-20240419130100"]}}-->
No worries @Claggy. I have accepted both articles now after doing some minor re-writing. Qcne (talk) 20:03, 19 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240419200300","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Qcne-20240419200300-Claggy-20240419130100","replies":["c-Claggy-20240420032700-Qcne-20240419200300"]}}-->
@Qcne: Thank you for attention and read carefully. Draft:Elham Afkari declined by a reviewer for WP:BLP1E. But she was arrested, imprisoned and persecuted 3 times in June, May and November of 2022. So the Subjects not notable only for one event. May you please re-check? Maybe also I mistake. Then I learn 1 more thing from you.
I also spent a lot of time for creating Draft:Eshragh Najafabadi and find sources. Here have many English sources. But most of sources are in Persian language by reliable agencies as: Al Arabiya, Euronews, BBC, The Independent, IRNA, VOA, Iran International TV, Iran Human Rights, Radio Farda and... I didn't submit yet because interesting you check it first. Claggy (talk) 03:27, 20 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240420032700","author":"Claggy","type":"comment","level":10,"id":"c-Claggy-20240420032700-Qcne-20240419200300","replies":["c-Qcne-20240421164100-Claggy-20240420032700"]}}-->
Hi again @Claggy. The BLP1E is a tricky one, and I think is open to some interpretation. I think it meets the requirement for acceptance, so have published it.
I've done some copyedits to correct grammar on Draft:Eshragh Najafabadi and published it for you. Qcne (talk) 16:41, 21 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240421164100","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":11,"id":"c-Qcne-20240421164100-Claggy-20240420032700","replies":["c-Claggy-20240421165900-Qcne-20240421164100"]}}-->
@Qcne: Thank you again. I think I am ready for join to AFC WikiProject :)
Please kindly check following article:
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Accepted after some copyedits. Qcne (talk) 17:16, 21 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240421171600","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":13,"id":"c-Qcne-20240421171600-Claggy-20240421165900","replies":["c-Claggy-20240422155200-Qcne-20240421171600"]}}-->
@Qcne: Thank you. Your help me a lot during this time. My target is complete Mahsa Amini protests articles. That's why interfere you. I want to be the voice of those who stood front of bullets with empty hands. World have to know them. Please check kindly and check:
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Done Qcne (talk) 12:46, 24 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240424124600","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":15,"id":"c-Qcne-20240424124600-Claggy-20240422155200","replies":["c-Claggy-20240424140700-Qcne-20240424124600"]}}-->
@Qcne: Thank you. I have 3 more and last one for Mahsa Amini protests. Please check:
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Submitted the Rabbani one. Let me know when the last two are ready :) Qcne (talk) 17:38, 24 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240424173800","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":17,"id":"c-Qcne-20240424173800-Claggy-20240424140700","replies":["c-Claggy-20240424180300-Qcne-20240424173800"]}}-->
Thank you. Yes. That articles also have a same time story. I put mostly Persian reliable links. The Independent, Iran International TV, Voice of America, IranWire, DW News, Dawn.com, France 24, The New Indian Express, The Straits Times, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty and more Claggy (talk) 18:03, 24 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240424180300","author":"Claggy","type":"comment","level":18,"id":"c-Claggy-20240424180300-Qcne-20240424173800","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello. I am the person who made the Aleks Le draft you rejected. This is my first time trying to make an article and I am struggling in trying to make it notable. The sources I used have been used on other accepted Wikipedia articles and I don't know exactly how many roles I should source. I am aware that some topics don't need to have a wikipedia article, but in comparison to other voice actor's articles what is mine missing? I'm also aware that if a topic doesn't have notable sources, it doesn't deserve to be a wikipedia page. If you could, could I have advice for what to do next time? And is it possible to rewrite about Aleks Le again at a different time if I include better and more notable references? Stupei acedefective (talk) 21:45, 28 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240428214500","author":"Stupei acedefective","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Stupei_acedefective-20240428214500-Aleks_Le_Draft","replies":["c-Qcne-20240429073100-Stupei_acedefective-20240428214500"]}}-->

Hi @Stupei acedefective. The problem is your sources are mostly unsuitable:
- Fandom.com sources cannot be used.
- Tvtropes cannot be used.
- Twitter cannot be used to establish notability.
- Sportskeeda cannot be used.
The rest of your sources do not provide WP:SIGCOV.
I just don't see this person meriting a Wikipedia article yet.
Please note too that we have tens of thousands of poor quality articles that no one has gotten around to improving or deleting yet, so if you were going to base your draft on an existing article please use a WP:GOOD one. Qcne (talk) 07:31, 29 April 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240429073100","author":"Qcne","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Qcne-20240429073100-Stupei_acedefective-20240428214500","replies":[]}}-->