User talk:Pr4ever/Archives/2012/December
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We need to move Secretary of Government of Puerto Rico (ministry) too but I don't know what article title to use (notice that's the Office, not the post). The literal translation would be Puerto Rico Government Secretariat. What do you suggest? —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 07:11, 30 November 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-11-30T07:11:00.000Z","author":"Ahnoneemoos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ahnoneemoos-2012-11-30T07:11:00.000Z-Secretary_of_Government_of_Puerto_Rico_(ministry)","replies":["c-Ahnoneemoos-2012-11-30T15:48:00.000Z-Ahnoneemoos-2012-11-30T07:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Sigh, what about Puerto Rico Secretariat of the Interior? This is the part that I hate most. These translations are a fucking nightmare. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 15:48, 30 November 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-11-30T15:48:00.000Z","author":"Ahnoneemoos","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ahnoneemoos-2012-11-30T15:48:00.000Z-Ahnoneemoos-2012-11-30T07:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Pr4ever-2012-12-03T03:08:00.000Z-Ahnoneemoos-2012-11-30T15:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
- First, a few comments-We should do away with "ministry/minister" because PR doesn't have a parliamentary system and the only "ministers" in PR are what one would call "men of the cloth". :-) Second, "gobernación" refers to gubernatorial, not to governmental. The Secretario de la Gobernación exercises gubernatorial powers delegated by the Governor, and does not have any intrinsic powers by virtue of a statute or the Constitution, contrary to other "Secretaries". He is a creature of the Governor, not a creature of law or the Constitution.Pr4ever (talk) 03:08, 3 December 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-03T03:08:00.000Z","author":"Pr4ever","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Pr4ever-2012-12-03T03:08:00.000Z-Ahnoneemoos-2012-11-30T15:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
There is an ongoing WP:AFD regarding Victoria Leigh Soto at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victoria Leigh Soto. The recent WP:DRV determined that due process was not followed and reopened the article's AfD. Please participate in the reopened discussion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Victoria Leigh Soto. —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 21:51, 30 December 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-12-30T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Ahnoneemoos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ahnoneemoos-2012-12-30T21:51:00.000Z-AfD:_Victoria_Leigh_Soto","replies":[]}}-->
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