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This is a warning going out to all editors involved in the multitude of edit warring across WikiProject Tropical cyclones. This is a preemptive warning to cease the edit warring before another incident arises and the consequences of ignoring this warning will be enforced immediately. The endless reverting and replacing of images with or without valid rationale has reached the point of being disruptive. These edits are generally a waste of time and focus should be placed on the content of the article rather than a single image. Continued edit warring will result in temporary bans—for 36 hours or longer—at the discretion of administrators. At the time of this warning, the project discussion on these images is still open and arguments within do not constitute project policy. ~ Cyclonebiskit (chat) 03:21, 28 June 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-06-28T03:21:00.000Z","author":"Cyclonebiskit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cyclonebiskit-2018-06-28T03:21:00.000Z-Satellite_image_edit_warring","replies":[]}}-->
I have upload a tutorial about using polar2grid to create images. It contains a PowerPoint document and some practice files.
Check here: https://1drv.ms/f/s!AjWORUATthfgkXyS5RaVfiVDTJc-
Any question or suggestion, please mail to [email protected].
Thanks!
P.S. There's a same message on your commons talk page, but I doubt you read it. So I leave another here.
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Please. Why did you make another Wukong Geostationary image?? I have made the "original" one earlier than you but it was named as "13W Geostationary..." And please stop rushing as we would not know if this system would become Wukong. So please be patient and delete your image now. I'm very disappointed. Typhoon2013(talk)07:04, 21 July 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-21T07:04:00.000Z","author":"Typhoon2013","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Typhoon2013-2018-07-21T07:04:00.000Z-Delete_your_image_now!!","replies":[]}}-->
@Typhoon2013: Well, sorry. I'm gonna delete it right away. I'm so sorry. - Nino Marakot08:17, 21 July 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-21T08:17:00.000Z","author":"Nino Marakot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nino_Marakot-2018-07-21T08:17:00.000Z-Delete_your_image_now!!","replies":["c-Typhoon2013-2018-07-21T20:25:00.000Z-Nino_Marakot-2018-07-21T08:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
Have you deleted the image, yet? If 13W becomes Wukong before you delete it, then there'll be serious problems with this image file. Typhoon2013(talk)20:25, 21 July 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-21T20:25:00.000Z","author":"Typhoon2013","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Typhoon2013-2018-07-21T20:25:00.000Z-Nino_Marakot-2018-07-21T08:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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I have updated the track map as you suggested.--Keith Edkins ( Talk ) 21:01, 14 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-14T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Keith Edkins","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Keith_Edkins-2018-12-14T21:01:00.000Z-BOB_05_(2017)","replies":[]}}-->
@Keith Edkins: Thanks for updating it. Can I rely you on updating maps? - Nino Marakot08:15, 15 December 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-12-15T08:15:00.000Z","author":"Nino Marakot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nino_Marakot-2018-12-15T08:15:00.000Z-BOB_05_(2017)","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello there, I noticed that you reverted the redirect that I created on this article. There were two reasons for doing so.
1.Firstly, this local election is a subset of a major election, therefore, I redirected it to 2016 Philippine general election. This article does cover all the encyclopedic aspect of that election.
2. Secondly, your article is confusing from the start. Local elections will be held in Marilao, Bulacan on May 9, 2016 within the Philippine general election. Either, you are mistakenly using future tense for a past event or you are confused with the actual year of the election.
Please rectify these errors. I am not reverting your edit for now but I will be watching this page. Regards. Hitro talk15:44, 25 March 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-03-25T15:44:00.000Z","author":"HitroMilanese","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HitroMilanese-2019-03-25T15:44:00.000Z-2016_Marilao_local_elections","replies":[],"displayName":"Hitro"}}-->
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Hi and it's been a long while! I really hope you guys are doing fine especially in phily. I am just really checking up on some things here because I barely edit nowadays due to (less storms in the Pacific ofc) but also I am in university. Also, I have seen that you make track maps now which I am really amazed on how much you've improved here ever since you started and keep up the good work. Just to note though I noticed that 2009's Auring, Bising and Crising's new updated tracks are not in the 2009 PTS season map and I was wondering if you could add it in. Keep up also with the job of updating the old PTS tracks though they look amazing. Thanks and stay safe! Typhoon2013(talk)09:26, 10 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-10T09:26:00.000Z","author":"Typhoon2013","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Typhoon2013-2020-04-10T09:26:00.000Z-Just_checking_up_and_other_things","replies":["c-Nino_Marakot-2020-04-29T14:15:00.000Z-Typhoon2013-2020-04-10T09:26:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Typhoon2013: Sorry for not replying to you like a looongg time, just like the quarantine here in the Philippines (since we are in Region 3, we had been in lockdown since March 15 with no signal of COVID-19 stopping its rampage here. Fortunately in my place (Marilao), there is only 13 cases recorded). I am really bored, so I am usually in Facebook (to see some anime memes ofc). Anyway, back to the discussion.
Due to unfortunate events, my brother's laptop is broken and I was completing JTWC/JMA track data there so, I couldn't save my hard work there :( The Polar2Grid program was also there so I just kinda wasted all my hard work questioning Supportstorm lol. Fortunately, two types of laptops were given to my mom; a Mac book and a regular laptop (I guesss..). So my mom agreed to let me use the regular laptop (but for a shorter time) but still enough to get the trio depressions done. Since lockdown here persists, they can't ship it because it's not "essential" under the "Bayanihan to Heal as One Act" (essential goods like food, water, masks, etc.) so maybe after the lockdown and switched to general community quarantine. Hope you got the long message: I can't do it now, but maybe later when things calm down here. Stay safe there! Regards, 👦14:15, 29 April 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-29T14:15:00.000Z","author":"Nino Marakot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nino_Marakot-2020-04-29T14:15:00.000Z-Typhoon2013-2020-04-10T09:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Typhoon2013-2020-05-05T03:36:00.000Z-Nino_Marakot-2020-04-29T14:15:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc66"}}-->
No worries and shucks that is terrible! I feel bad because here computers are essential. Just praying things will ease very soon as ours already did fortunately. Yeah keep updated with me with any Phily stuff ya know, but yea same here I do worry on what's there too so hopefully things work out easily in the near future. I'll wait for more of your hard work when you get that computer again lmao. Kind regards, Typhoon2013(talk)03:36, 5 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-05T03:36:00.000Z","author":"Typhoon2013","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Typhoon2013-2020-05-05T03:36:00.000Z-Nino_Marakot-2020-04-29T14:15:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nino_Marakot-2020-06-06T16:36:00.000Z-Typhoon2013-2020-05-05T03:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
Good news: I have recovered the works in the laptop and since it still works somewhat, it still needs repair. I still do the work there, but I always copy my works so if it gets off again, I have the copy of them. Regards, 👦16:36, 6 June 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-06T16:36:00.000Z","author":"Nino Marakot","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Nino_Marakot-2020-06-06T16:36:00.000Z-Typhoon2013-2020-05-05T03:36:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc66"}}-->
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Where is your source for the "RSMC BT"? I feel obligated to simply revert every change you made because the best track was already there. It was located within IBTRACS. NoahTalk19:50, 3 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230803195000","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20230803195000-2020\u201321_South-West_Indian_Ocean_cyclone_season","replies":["c-Nino_Marakot-20230804102500-Hurricane_Noah-20230803195000"],"displayName":"Noah"}}-->
@Hurricane Noah: The source is from the official site of RSMC La Reunion which is here. Go to RSMC Archives -> Details of archived systems and it's there. User:KN2731 has also figured out that the complete BT that IBTrACS has isn't there either, and has also used the same source to revamp articles. Regards, 👦10:25, 4 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230804102500","author":"Nino Marakot","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nino_Marakot-20230804102500-Hurricane_Noah-20230803195000","replies":["c-Hurricane_Noah-20230804120600-Nino_Marakot-20230804102500","c-Hurricane_Noah-20230804125700-Nino_Marakot-20230804102500"],"displayName":"\ud83d\udc66"}}-->
It’s embedded within the source data of IBTrACS. The data you are using from the RSMC site is outdated, at least for the 2020-21 SWIO season. The MFR cant be damned to update the English version and made tons of changes on their FR maps that don't even display the actual data (only icons) and even then that doesn't reflect all the changes made. I figured you would realize that considering the French map on their normal site shows Habana as a VITC. The MFR is the most secretive of all the RSMCs when it comes to publishing BT files. That link gets updated every so often with BT files from various agencies. NoahTalk12:06, 4 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230804120600","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20230804120600-Nino_Marakot-20230804102500","replies":[],"displayName":"Noah"}}-->
@Hurricane Noah the BT on La Reunion's website looks ok to me for Habana - not sure why IBTrACS still lists 120 knots. I can't open tar.gz files on Windows without downloading some other app so I can't view the file you've linked, if it lists 110/938 and 115/939 for first and second peaks respectively then it matches with my source. The link I've been using to access the rest of Reunion's BT is this (the English version is broken btw, so change francais to anglais when opening the individual links). I'm not sure which map you've seen but this taken from the index page doesn't show VITC on Habana's track. ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 05:16, 5 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230805051600","author":"KN2731","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-KN2731-20230805051600-Hurricane_Noah-20230804125700","replies":["c-Hurricane_Noah-20230805085700-KN2731-20230805051600"]}}-->
@KN2731: Looks to be the same outdated source. When MFR redid their main site, they redid a bunch of the storm tracks and never updated anything else except their maps.
https://meteofrance.re/fr/cyclone Past seasons tab --> 20202021 --> Habana --> enable cyclones on the map (top right corner)... It shows two VITC points for Habana. There were a bunch of changes they did over several years that the IBTRACs source has but sources like the one you were using don't have. NoahTalk08:57, 5 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230805085700","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20230805085700-KN2731-20230805051600","replies":["c-KN2731-20230805091500-Hurricane_Noah-20230805085700"],"displayName":"Noah"}}-->
@Hurricane Noah I don't disagree that website is outdated - RSMC La Reunion's other website (this one, which is where I'm getting my info) doesn't appear to be. If you look at the BT for Habana I linked above, it starts the track with a ZODW at 18Z March 2 and has no VITC points - which is markedly different from operational (first bulletin for ZODW 13 is 18Z March 3). It does look like they left the meteofrance.re website with the operational tracks, since the Habana track you link starts 22:00 RET March 3 (which is 18Z). ~ KN2731 {talk · contribs} 09:15, 5 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230805091500","author":"KN2731","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-KN2731-20230805091500-Hurricane_Noah-20230805085700","replies":["c-Hurricane_Noah-20230805092300-KN2731-20230805091500"]}}-->
Habana wasn’t a VITC operationally though, which raises some issues regarding what source is really accurate. NoahTalk09:23, 5 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230805092300","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20230805092300-KN2731-20230805091500","replies":["c-Jason_Rees-20230805112500-Hurricane_Noah-20230805092300"],"displayName":"Noah"}}-->
@Hurricane Noah and KN2731: The very fact that this information is hidden away in a subdirectory called provisional, tells me that it isnt ready for public use yet. As a result, I would strongly suggest that we revert to using 115 kts, until such a time as IBTRACS or MFR's website is updated to call Habana a Very Intense Tropical Cyclone with winds of 120 kts or more.Jason Rees (talk) 11:25, 5 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230805112500","author":"Jason Rees","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Jason_Rees-20230805112500-Hurricane_Noah-20230805092300","replies":["c-Hurricane_Noah-20230805194100-Jason_Rees-20230805112500"]}}-->
@Jason Rees: That file isn't just MFR. It's literally every agency's BT from prior seasons. Everything there except the MFR's BT is already published by the respective agencies. MFR for some reason updated the maps on their main site when they revamped it but chose not to do anything with the actual trackfiles on their other domains. NoahTalk19:41, 5 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230805194100","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20230805194100-Jason_Rees-20230805112500","replies":[],"displayName":"Noah"}}-->
See the talk page and discuss before making any reverts. -- GreenC21:48, 28 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230828214800","author":"GreenC","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GreenC-20230828214800-Template:Cite_JTWC","replies":["c-GreenC-20230829002300-GreenC-20230828214800"],"displayName":"Green"}}-->
Note the addition of |archive-date=. Every instance of the template that uses |archive-url= also needs a |archive-date= that matches the date in the archive URL. Otherwise, it will create an error. This is how CS1|2 templates work. -- GreenC00:23, 29 August 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230829002300","author":"GreenC","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GreenC-20230829002300-GreenC-20230828214800","replies":[],"displayName":"Green"}}-->
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I reverted all your intensity changes at the article per the MFR BT. Please see Habana as a sample. Noah, AATalk21:42, 26 September 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230926214200","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20230926214200-2020\u201321_South-West_Indian_Ocean_cyclone_season_2","replies":["c-Hurricane_Noah-20230926215100-Hurricane_Noah-20230926214200"],"displayName":"Noah"}}-->
@KN2731: Making you aware of this as well. They also released at least some of the 2022-23 BT. I changed Freddy to 125/927. If you have time to check dates the season I linked above, I would appreciate it. I did all the intensity changes as I went through. Noah, AATalk21:51, 26 September 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230926215100","author":"Hurricane Noah","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hurricane_Noah-20230926215100-Hurricane_Noah-20230926214200","replies":[],"displayName":"Noah"}}-->
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