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On April 21, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Barnes Hospital, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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On 22 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Denshaw, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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There's a picture of the Opera house in the Manchester article, see Image:Opera House, Manchester.jpg. It's a nice picture, but I'm unconvinced by its GFDL compatibility, as (1) it is certainly this picture, which has a copyright notice (2) it's for sale here (3) the original uploader stretches AGF to the limit. Do you mind adding the Opera House to your list of targets? Regards, Mr Stephen (talk) 08:10, 18 April 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-18T08:10:00.000Z","author":"Mr Stephen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mr_Stephen-2008-04-18T08:10:00.000Z-Pictures","replies":["c-Mr_Stephen-2008-04-25T11:56:00.000Z-Mr_Stephen-2008-04-18T08:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not bad at all. I think number 1 is the one for us, but IMHO it could do with the verticals being straightened a bit. I'll have a go over the weekend, time permitting, and see how it looks. I might try and clone out those bins too ... Regards, Mr Stephen (talk) 11:56, 25 April 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-25T11:56:00.000Z","author":"Mr Stephen","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mr_Stephen-2008-04-25T11:56:00.000Z-Mr_Stephen-2008-04-18T08:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi,

I noticed that you had an interest in particle physics, so I wondered you could head over the List of baryons and Talk:List of baryons pages a give some feedback. I'm currently trying to bring that article to Featured List status, but I'm not a particle physicist so I probably made half a dozen mistakes. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. Headbomb (talk · contribs) 21:41, 23 April 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-23T21:41:00.000Z","author":"Headbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headbomb-2008-04-23T21:41:00.000Z-Peer_review_for_the_list_of_baryons","replies":[]}}-->

Cool piccies, thanks for taking them :) I was down there myself just today (working in Manchester), the progress is great. I'll upload the pics I took. Parrot of Doom (talk) 22:15, 24 April 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-04-24T22:15:00.000Z","author":"Parrot of Doom","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Parrot_of_Doom-2008-04-24T22:15:00.000Z-MBB_canal","replies":[]}}-->

On 25 April, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Platt Fields Park, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Hi Mike,

I noticed your question on the talk page of Wikipedia:Multilingual coordination. Some short answers:

• Articles are linked together with interwiki or interlanguage links; find more information here
• A list of all Wikipedia editions and their language codes can be found at m:List of Wikipedias.
• Translation is not very common between wikipedias -- most Wikipedia editions choose to write articles from scratch. However, there is an active translation project here.
• You might be interested in the Wikimedia Embassy system as well.

Finally, cross language issues tend to get debated on the Wikipedia-l mailing list (but more and more on Foundation-L instead).

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I noticed that your expertise is in astronomy, and that's really useful for me at the mo, as you can see. An terminology issue has arisen in the PR, and terminology issues are always a bit of a bugbear in astronomy. It concerns the definitions of the word "nebula". Should the giant molecular cloud be referred to as a nebula? Or should that term only be applied to the small fragment (the pre-solar nebula) that became our Sun? To make things even more confusing, some articles refer to the pre-solar nebula as the "solar nebula", while others give that name to the disc of gas and dust that formed the planets. I'm rather confused.Serendi^podous 10:08, 1 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-01T10:08:00.000Z","author":"Serendipodous","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Serendipodous-2008-05-01T10:08:00.000Z-I_was_wondering_if_you_could_give_a_peer_review_to_Formation_and_evolution_of_th","replies":[],"displayName":"Serendi"}}-->

Your Featured picture candidate has been promoted Your nomination for featured picture status, Image:WMAP 2008.png, gained a consensus of support, and has been promoted. If you would like to nominate another image, please do so at Wikipedia:Featured picture candidates. jjron (talk) 09:07, 6 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-06T09:07:00.000Z","author":"Jjron","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jjron-2008-05-06T09:07:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates\/Image:WMAP_2008.png","replies":[]}}-->

Are you interested in the Raymond E. Feist series? Currently, there has been a new Wiki-project set up especially for anything to do with Raymond E. Feists' works and that includes characters, items, places, reces, etc, etc. If you are interested why not sign up at the members section at WP:RAY

The Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter

The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue V - March 2008 January issue Got any suggestions? -- Add them here Project News Since the January newsletter there has been an increase of 5 featured articles/lists, taking our total number of featured entries upto 16 17 (Trafford passed today!). Grade I listed buildings in Greater Manchester, reported on in the last newsletter, is now a featured list, and was one of the project's finest team efforts towards one of the finest such lists. The Grade II* listed buildings in Greater Manchester has since been started. Can you help? Trafford and List of tallest buildings and structures in Salford remain featured candidates, although both look likely to be promoted. UPDATE: Trafford was promoted today! Although WP:GM leads the way in terms of featured content by a local British project, the Kent and Yorkshire WikiProjects are close to this total, with 11 and 14 featured entries respectively. Following a somewhat frenzied collaboration at the start of March, and a nomination by User:Joshii, Greater Manchester was promoted to GA status. It's the first metropolitan county to obtain this recognition. There has otherwise been a reduction in WP:GM nominations for GA status, something which the project has begun to discuss on the talk page. Having completed all but one of our short term aims set last December, the project would like to look at developing new short term aims. Suggestions have been made here, but there is scope for flexibility. Do you have a entry you would like to see developed? Other articles to have undergone a major upgrading include Salford, Stalybridge, Middleton and List of railway stations in Greater Manchester. Member News There are now 39 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester! Welcome to the 8 new members that joined since our last newsletter: Polishname (talk · contribs) Jimet (talk · contribs) Phon123 (talk · contribs) Abfab27 (talk · contribs) Sharadjalota456 (talk · contribs) Mike Peel (talk · contribs) Unsy770 (talk · contribs) Hassocks5489 (talk · contribs) Two members have left the project however, each for rather different reasons: Archtransit (talk · contribs) was an administrator, and project member, who was found to have been abusing his editting and sysop privliges. Following investigation, Archtransit was banned indefinately. A report in The Signpost is found here. Rudget (talk · contribs), also an administrator, decided to leave the project. Reasons mentioned included the demands of admin duties taking over too much time. Rudget helped towards Didsbury's GA promotion, and Portal:North West England's FP promotion. Thanks This WikiProject, would not be where it is today without each and every one of its members! Thank you to all! Roll Call!!! Are YOU still around? WP:GM is a great project, and is leading the way for local WikiProjects of the UK. However, though the project talk page is a hub of activity, it is regularly used by only a core of 5-6 editors, which isn't making the most of its potential. Indeed, a study, by the University of Minnesota found that "One-tenth of 1 percent of editors account for nearly half of Wikipedia's content value". We at WP:GM do not want to follow suit! There are several editors who have, sadly, not editted since the turn of 2008, and others, which concentrate in areas other than Greater Manchester material (which is quite fine!). The WikiProject Greater Manchester would like to know if YOU are still around, and if so, if you've like to be more involved, and, if not, why not and what can we do to get you involved and be a bigger part of the team? Feel free to come by the project talk page and leave us a message on what you're working on and/or what you'd like to see improved. The project is only as strong as its members and we'd like to know if you're still active or if we can help you with your editting. Images A picture's worth a thousand words In our last issue, a plea was made for more images to be submitted to Wikipedia/WikiCommons to improve the quality and context of our articles. Many of our Top priority articles are still lacking in quality images, if any! www.geograph.org.uk is an online resource of photographs of places in the UK, which we can use. Www.flickr.com also has some images we are permitted to use. Do you have a digital camera however? Can you take photographs of townscapes and landmarks in your local area that can be used here? Middleton, Hulme and Rochdale all have examples of images in their lead that help give a sense of place and improve the context to our readers. Simillarly, many of our most crucial articles about our largest towns are still in poor condition: Stockport, Bury, Prestwich, Bolton, and Wigan are of "start class" standard with short lead sections and unreferenced sections - a much lower standard than we should allow! If you feel you can help, please be bold and try to improve these. There is a list of resources that can help. Created by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome!

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The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue VI - April 2008 March issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News Since the last newsletter in March, our number of featured articles/lists has increased by 3, giving us a total of 21! List of tallest buildings and structures in Salford and Manchester City F.C. seasons were promoted to featured list status on 22 March along with Castles in Greater Manchester which passed FLC on 1 April. Well done to all those who contributed! Peterloo Massacre was nominated for FAC on 6 April. So far it has received support for FAS but feel free join the discussion here. The reduction of WP:GM GAs, mentioned in the last issue, has been tackled with Buckton Castle and Oasis (band) being passed on 9 March and Upper Brook Street Chapel, Manchester on 7 April. We now have 13 GAs due to hard work of our contributors. Well done! Hulme Arch Bridge was nominated for GAS on March 30. WP:GM still is still the leading local British WikiProject. As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 6 on London and Yorkshire who have 15 FAs each. Although taking the lead in FAs, WP:GM is still lacking GAs and falls behind London by 6. This topic was at the front of the new aims discussion (here) and is an important issue for WP:GM. As mentioned above, new aims have been decided. See the right hand column for more details. Member News There are now 44 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester! A warm welcome to the 5 new members that have joined us since March: Attenboroughp (talk · contribs) Paypwip (talk · contribs) Liquidswords (talk · contribs) Azallen (talk · contribs) Man2 (talk · contribs) No users left the WikiProject this month. Hooray! Thanks A big "thank you" to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed. Written by Polishname • Template by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome! New Aims The completion of all but one of the short term aims set last December resulted in a discussion on WT:GM to set new aims for the WikiProject. They are: Obtain FA status for Greater Manchester. Obtain GA status for Salford. Obtain GA status for Kersal Moor. Get a lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county. Obtain FL status for List of railway stations in Greater Manchester. Obtain GA -> FA status for Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine. Obtain FL status for List of people from Bolton. Obtain GA status for a third of Greater Manchester's Metropolitan Boroughs. It took us four months to get our last aims completed, why not try and see if these can be done in less time than before! All input is welcome but if anyone has any books or photos etc specifically related to these topics, they would be extra-specially welcome. But before rushing ahead with these new aims, let's not forget the one that got away last time: to obtain B -> GA status for Rochdale, Wigan, Bury, Bolton and Stockport. Most of these articles are in poor condition and in need of repair. Good quality images are urgently needed also. Let's make sure that this aim doesn't stay off our radar much longer. Don't Forget... Images! The shortage of good images was mentioned in the last issue and still hasn't been resolved! A good place to start would be the requested photographs category but please remember that there are many articles not within this category that have the same need in common. Assessment "Assess and review all relevant articles for quality, importance and progress" is one of our mid-term aims. At the present moment, there are only 43 unassessed articles. This task could be completed well before the next newsletter is out. Last but not Least... Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion and the list of articles needing cleanup are in permanent need of attention. Please take a look and see what you can do.

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The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue VII - May 2008 April issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News The Peterloo Massacre article was promoted to FA on 12 April. One of our top priority articles, it had previously been only start class. The process began on 25th March and since then underwent over 700 edits before the end of April, with Jza84, Malleus Fatuarum, and Richerman making significant contributions to the rapid development of the article. Ddstretch and Mr Stephen also contributed to discussions on the article talk page. Hulme Arch Bridge was promoted to GA. This was mainly the effort of Mike Peel who was also largely responsible for the promotion of Upper Brook Street Chapel, Manchester last month. Perhaps the most unusual event of April 2008 for the project has surrounded the Denshaw article. Denshaw is a village of about 500 people in Saddleworth, Oldham, which attracted media attention due to vandalism of the stub class article. Once this was brought to the project's attention, efforts were made to improve the article which led to a successful DYK? nomination and might even advance it to GA status with a bit more effort. In April there were over 19,000 visitors who saw the project in action. Contributors included Jza84, Ddstretch, Malleus Fatuarum, Hassocks5489, Nev1 and Mike Peel. Also this month 5 articles featured on the DYK? section of the front page: Hulme Arch Bridge, Peterloo Massacre, Bolton and Leigh Railway, Barnes Hospital, Denshaw, and Platt Fields Park. This certainly puts into perspective one of the project's previous mid-term aims "feature on the Did you know? section with at least three articles related to Greater Manchester". If you've expanded an article 5 fold or started one with at least 1.5kb of prose in the past 5 days and it has an interesting and referenced fact don't hesitate to read the conditions of DYK? and nominate it here. It gets the project noticed! WikiProject Greater Manchester is still leading local British WikiProjects. As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 7 on London and Yorkshire who have 15 Featured Articles each. Although taking the lead in FAs, WP:GM is still lacking GAs and falls behind London by 6 (we have 14, London 20). If you see an article that you think deserves to be a GA, don't hesitate to nominate it at WP:GAC! Member News There are 45 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester. One new member has joined the project this month: Kieran5676 on 30th April and is interested in south Manchester. The project is always looking for new members, and if you spot an editor who makes good changes to Greater Machester related articles why not invite them to join up by adding this template to their talk page {{SUBST:Welcome WPGM}}. Thanks A rather large "thank you" goes out to all the editors who edited article related to Greater Manchester, or who edit the project itself. It's no joke. Written by Basketball110 and Nev1 • Template by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome! New Aims Last month the project set new and ambitious aims for itself: Obtain FA status for Greater Manchester. Obtain GA status for Salford. Obtain GA status for Kersal Moor. Get a lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county. Obtain FL status for List of railway stations in Greater Manchester. Obtain GA and/or FA status for Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine. Obtain FL status for List of people from Bolton. Obtain GA status for one third (1/3) of Greater Manchester's Metropolitan Boroughs. It took us four months to get our last aims completed, why not try and see if these can be done in less time than before! All input is welcome but if anyone has any books or photos etc specifically related to these topics, they would be extra-specially welcome. Most of the articles covered by our new aims haven't experienced much activity in the past month, if you thing you can help improve an article be bold and get editing. Articles such as List of people from Bolton and List of railway stations in Greater Manchester already appear very close to FL status and may just require an editor to guide them through the FLC process. Our highest priority article is of course Greater Manchester, there is a peer review from March with issues still to be addressed before it can be put forward as a featured article candidate. Salford is another top priority article because it's the county's second city; it's under gone a lot of editing but still has a way to go before it reaches GA. Also active this month has been the City of Salford article – part of our aim to get 1/3 of Greater Manchester's Metropolitan Boroughs to GA &ndash. Although these are the project's explicit short term aims, we endeavour to "improving all wikipedia articles that are concerned with Greater Manchester", so every edit is valuable. Reminders... Images! The rate of good images has gone up since it was mentioned in the last issue, but more images are needed! The requested photographs category lists some of the articles needing images. Assessment When this section was written, there was only 1 unassessed article! This task has probably already been finished, but it might now have. To check click here. Last but not Least... Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion and the list of articles needing cleanup are in permanent need of attention. Please take a look and see what you can do.

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Yes, it's preemptive. We have an extremely prolific pagemove vandal, User:Grawp and sockpuppets, who lately has been specializing in moving, among others, country pages (including tiny little countries and territories like Anguilla). The thinking (of me and several other admins) is that there is no legitimate reason why someone would need to move such a page without discussion. NawlinWiki (talk) 23:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-13T23:18:00.000Z","author":"NawlinWiki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NawlinWiki-2008-05-13T23:18:00.000Z-Pagemove_protection","replies":[]}}-->

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Indeedio.

See the piece of sequential art dated 21.06.92 by Watterson, B. for an explanation of the term. Tchernobog (talk) 11:09, 20 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-20T11:09:00.000Z","author":"Tchernobog","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tchernobog-2008-05-20T11:09:00.000Z-Horrendous_Space_Kablooie","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for you work as a peer review volunteer. Since March, there has been a concerted effort to make sure all peer review requests get some response. Requests that have gone three days or longer without a substantial response are listed at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog. I have three requests to help this continue.

1) If you are asked to do a peer review, please ask the person who made the request to also do a review, preferably of a request that has not yet had feedback. This is fairly simple, but helps. For example when I review requests on the backlog list, I close with Hope this helps. If my comments are useful, please consider peer reviewing an article, especially one at Wikipedia:Peer review/backlog (which is how I found this article). Yours, ...

2) While there are several people who help with the backlog, lately I have been doing up to 3 or 4 peer reviews a day and can not keep this up much longer. We need help. Since there are now well over 100 names on the PR volunteers page, if each volunteer reviewed just one PR request without a response from the list each month, it would easily take care of the "no response" backlog. To help spread out the load, I suggest those willing pick a day of the month and do a review that day (for example, my first edit was on the 8th, so I could pick the 8th). Please pick a peer review request with no responses yet, if possible off the backlog list. If you want, leave a note on my talk page as to which day you picked and I will remind you each month.

3) I have made some proposals to add some limits to peer review requests at Wikipedia_talk:Peer_review#Proposed_limits. The idea is to prevent any one user from overly burdening the process. These seem fairly reasonable (one PR request per editor per day, only four total PR requests per editor at a time, PR requests with cleanup banners can be delisted (like GAN quick fail), and wait two weeks to relist a PR request after it is archived), but have gotten no feedback in one week. If you have any thoughts on these, please weigh in.

Thanks again for your help and in advance for any assistance with the backlog. Ruhrfisch _><>°^° 21:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-27T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Ruhrfisch","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ruhrfisch-2008-05-27T21:26:00.000Z-Request_for_Peer_Review_help","replies":[]}}-->

On 28 May, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article QUIET, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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Hi. I notice you're on the WP:PRV list for astronomy-related topics. At your convenience, could I get your take on the first section of Mercury (planet)? We're working on a Featured Article Review, and that section (Internal Structure) is one of the last items in need of work. For the life of me, I can't see a good way to expand or cleanup the section, as it's reasonably linear in that it goes in logical order from crust to core, for example. Nor can I see anything to expand the section with that isn't already covered elsewhere (such as Surface geology). Any insight you could provide would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! UltraExactZZ ^Claims ~ Evidence 14:37, 3 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-03T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Ultraexactzz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ultraexactzz-2008-06-03T14:37:00.000Z-Ping_in_re_Mercury_(planet)","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2008-06-03T21:34:00.000Z-Ultraexactzz-2008-06-03T14:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm rather busy at present, but if I get the chance I'll have a look. Mike Peel (talk) 21:34, 3 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-03T21:34:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2008-06-03T21:34:00.000Z-Ultraexactzz-2008-06-03T14:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ultraexactzz-2008-06-04T19:03:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2008-06-03T21:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

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...of Image:Michael_Q._Schmidt_at_wrap_party_for_Yesterday_Was_A_Lie.jpg. This image may have been missing an appropriate tag, but at one point I believe this image had such a tag. If missing, it was a simple oversight and can/will be corrected. [The image was explicitly allowed by the person in the photo (using their camera and from their website)]. Please restore accordingly. If you won't restore it permanently, please restore it long enough to have it reviewed under WP:IfD. Thank you. — BQZip01 — ^talk 21:06, 18 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-18T21:06:00.000Z","author":"BQZip01","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BQZip01-2008-06-18T21:06:00.000Z-Request_restoration","replies":["c-Cumulus_Clouds-2008-06-18T22:53:00.000Z-BQZip01-2008-06-18T21:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"\u2014\u00a0BQZip01\u00a0\u2014"}}-->

• There is no reasonable way to ascertain if that account is actually the person who owns the rights to the photo. The photo was already reviewed once under IFD and deleted. It was properly deleted and should remain so. Cumulus Clouds (talk) 22:53, 18 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-18T22:53:00.000Z","author":"Cumulus Clouds","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cumulus_Clouds-2008-06-18T22:53:00.000Z-BQZip01-2008-06-18T21:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-BQZip01-2008-06-19T20:33:00.000Z-Cumulus_Clouds-2008-06-18T22:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Restoration and an IfD discussion was all I requested. Thanks! — BQZip01 — ^talk 20:33, 19 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-19T20:33:00.000Z","author":"BQZip01","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BQZip01-2008-06-19T20:33:00.000Z-Cumulus_Clouds-2008-06-18T22:53:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014\u00a0BQZip01\u00a0\u2014"}}-->

Wouldn't it serve Wiki better for CC to prove that I don't have the rights to my own image (used by me on my website and my IMDB profile), than for me to spend time defending against his spurious accusations? Or for him to prove I am not Michael Q. Schmidt than for me to prove I am? Where would Wiki be if no one ever assumed good faith? Isn't that one of Wiki's most sacrosanct principles?

Look... anyone who goes to my IMDB profile can get a link to my website and thus my email address. I will gladly write back to any who write me... from my website, from my email, as myself. I am exactly who I am. I am certainly not here under the guise of an anonymous user name.

Though he could have, CC has never written me. He knows who I am and where I live. He has my e-mail. He has my home address. He has the proof of my existence... all the while alleging that I am not me. He ignores all proofs and verifications. He ignores facts and truths and repeatedly twists things to meet his own agenda. It is apparent that CC has done no reserach to prove anything he claims about me or my life.... he just deconstructs me to make me as insignificant as he wishes... then deletes me.

Thank you for returning the image he so detests... but history has shown that he does not believe in consensus... absolutely does not believe in it... unless it supports his own POV. MichaelQSchmidt (talk) 04:38, 21 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-21T04:38:00.000Z","author":"MichaelQSchmidt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MichaelQSchmidt-2008-06-21T04:38:00.000Z-Request_restoration","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, Mike!

I've read the Strömgren sphere article and found a mistake in definition of J flux, it had wrong physical dimension. Maybe it'll be better to define this quantity accurate since it's not clear for the newbie to understand connection of J and inverse square law. I 'd think on it if you'er busy. :)

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Hey Mike,

I've been written a generic WikiProject Banner template that would support new parameters etc... I'm having a minor problem where I can't align some text in a cell. You can take a look at Wikipedia:Village_pump_(technical)#Can't align a cell in a table, and it's driving me nuts. for a greater description of the problem, and some links that might prove usefull.

The template code is located in my sandbox User:Headbomb/Sandbox

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Nevermind, problem was solved by the kind folks of the village pump. Headbomb {ταλκ – WP Physics: PotW} 04:09, 6 July 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-06T04:09:00.000Z","author":"Headbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headbomb-2008-07-06T04:09:00.000Z-Could_you_take_a_look_at_my_sandbox?","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Mike. I'm interested in why you see this as a regressive move. No doubt you cope well with colour/or and ise/ize differences. It seems to most people that whether month or day comes first is rather trivial, and we're all exposed to both date formats in our reading, whether on the Internet or in other publications in English. Why is it such a big deal?

MOSNUM: well ... it doesn't actually encourage autoformatting: "Careful consideration of the disadvantages and advantages of the autoformatting mechanism should be made before applying it: the mechanism does not work for the vast majority of readers, such as unregistered users and registered users who have not made a setting, and can affect readability and appearance if there are already numerous high-value links in the text." Sounds like anything but. It has moved from compulsion (earlier last year) to optional to very cautious, a trend I see as inevitable.

There are two big technical issues: autoformatting was from the start an indulgent in-house programmer's toy that somehow caught on at WP. It conceals within-article inconsistencies in the raw format that everyone else sees; it forces bright blue on dates, which outsiders find very strange (especially since they don't see the formatted version); it clutters the text with blue, when we want readers to go to high-value links—why dilute them? And it makes the page slightly harder to read. Another issue is that a surprisingly large proportion of autoformatted dates have been incorrectly keyed in, resulting in broken links. Ask Lightmouse about that, since he has surveyed the issue.

Pleased to hear your response. No one else at featured-content pages has complained. A few people have reacted very positively to the improved appearance. TONY (talk) 09:25, 10 July 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T09:25:00.000Z","author":"Tony1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tony1-2008-07-10T09:25:00.000Z-auto-dud","replies":[],"displayName":"TONY"}}-->

Mike: have you ever tried to get the developers at MediaWiki to make changes? It's like trying to move an ocean liner with a rowing boat. Fixing the autoformatting issue—both its exclusive in-house function and it's entanglement with the linking mechanism—is a big deal: technically, it's not simple. What kind of code to use in place of the double square brackets, what things can go wrong with some country-based ISP default preference; many countries use more than one format (Canada, for example; and here in Sydney, the major daily newspaper uses US date formatting). Politically, the developers would have to negotiate sensitivities and take risks, and they hate doing that. All but ?two of MediaWiki's developers are volunteers, and those two are part-time employed and probably not well remunerated, I suspect. It's hard to get anyone to take responsibility for change, which is one reason the organisation is so static. And remember that it serves not just WP, but lots of other users around the world.

Take a look at the long-running, painful Bugzilla page where we presented a huge petition of WPians in Jan 07, I think it was, asking for a parallel syntax to be created for date autformatting that would allow its decoupling from the linking mechanism. Nothing, niente, zero, zilch, and the process tended to get bogged down in queries and dead-ends (developers hate that, too).

I think it's just too big and complex a job, unless MediaWiki devotes serious energy to it, which I don't see happening no matter how much WPians huff and puff. So in frustration, there's a growing movement against the use of autoformatting. In the past few weeks, given the option now not to use it and proper guidelines for which format to use where, I've done a turnabout: I see no reason to retain it, since almost every English-speaker is exposed to both formats, at least some of the time. I think the psychological issue of "feeling more comfortable with your own formatting" is vastly overstated; in fact, I think WP handles the variety-of-English issue remarkably well, and I find the fixation with seeing some kind of preferred month–day or day–month all rather trivial. More important to me is within-article consistency.

Might I suggest that US date formatting for an article about NASA is entirely appropriate. Have you read through it enough to start ignoring the order of month and day, in smooth, unobstructive black? It actually matters more in otherwise overlinked articles: there are some corkers at FAC that are much less cluttered with the dud. TONY (talk) 16:55, 10 July 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-10T16:55:00.000Z","author":"Tony1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tony1-2008-07-10T16:55:00.000Z-auto-dud","replies":["c-Tony1-2008-07-11T12:57:00.000Z-Tony1-2008-07-10T16:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"TONY"}}-->

Well, VP is pretty useless—one's post is soon covered up, usually without response. The issue is known among aficionados at MOS, FAC and FLC, but it will take a while to filter through to the troops. When I have more time from Monday next onwards, I'll have a good go at engaging nominators on the matter. TONY (talk) 12:57, 11 July 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-11T12:57:00.000Z","author":"Tony1","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tony1-2008-07-11T12:57:00.000Z-Tony1-2008-07-10T16:55:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"TONY"}}-->

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I have a question and I know you may not be so inclined but if you would help it would be greatly appreciated, since this is unclear to me. In the expression for the electric field, if you look at a diagram of the vectors for the elctric field from the charge and from it's image charge, it looks like the components normal to the conducting plane cancel, while the radial (or parallel) components add. The radial components would involve a factor of the sine of the angle which would be ρ/a, not a/whatever. So, can you explain the factor of a/R in the surface charge density expression please? ThanksKissnmakeup (talk) 18:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-31T18:40:00.000Z","author":"Kissnmakeup","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kissnmakeup-2008-07-31T18:40:00.000Z-Method_of_Images","replies":[]}}-->

I just figured it out. My bad. So sorry. (It usually takes me longer.) Thank you. Kissnmakeup (talk) 18:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-31T18:51:00.000Z","author":"Kissnmakeup","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kissnmakeup-2008-07-31T18:51:00.000Z-Method_of_Images","replies":[]}}-->

Hi. I think if the 21st century is split, it should include the future eclipses somewhere, because some are quite significant. Either include them in the main 21st century article, or put them in a separate article like "List of future solar eclipses". Also, when you move the article, please keep the ref from the book I added onto the main solar eclipse article several months ago, unless you can find a more accurate source such as NASA that will provide a detailed and enlargeable map, if you are willing to add the locations yourself. If you do use that ref, please use the new cite tag format I added, and add any more info to the ref if possible. Also, my computer is on the slow side, so it might not be as easy for me to add new information where applicable to the list articles. As for antiquity, I doubt it will be possible to include a full list, so maybe historicly significant eclipses would go in that list, and likewise for 19th century if such a list is made, although the coverage of that list is rather incomplete in the ref I added which is at the library, although it might be possible to get one from NASA. Thanks. ~AH1^(TCU) 20:30, 3 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-03T20:30:00.000Z","author":"AstroHurricane001","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AstroHurricane001-2008-08-03T20:30:00.000Z-Re:Eclipses","replies":[],"displayName":"H"}}-->

I am a bit concerned about the Nutation article. I wonder if a slight clarification might be added related to the difference between Nutation and Wobble/Polar motion.

The motion of the Earth's rotation axis on the celestial sphere is given by Precession, Nutation PLUS a smaller remainder called the "celestial pole offset". http://www.iers.org/MainDisp.csl?pid=95-93

It is very common to mix up "celestial pole offset" with the geographic motion of the pole on the surface of the earth, known as "Polar Motion" or "wobble".

The IERS monitors both Polar Motion (GPS & VLBI) and the celestial pole offset (VLBI).

Imagine that polaris is exactly at the north celestial pole and we experience 1m of Polar Motion/Wobble. This would mean that:

- My apparent latitude and longitude would change as I view the stars. Polaris would be at a slightly different position in the sky at a fixed location. - Polaris would remain at exactly at the north celestial pole.

Now imagine that polaris is exactly at the north celestial pole and we experience a 1m offset of the celestial pole. This would mean that:

- My apparent latitude and longitude would be unchange as I view the stars. The north rotation pole would be unchanged.

- Polaris would no longer be exactly at the north celestial pole.

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I was adding the category Solar eclipse animations to the existing eclipse animations (see my talk page for a full list) and I noticed that you appear to have deleted existing information. Before I add more categories, I would like to know if it is safe to do this, or if there are plans to delete these eclipse images at some point.

I have a complete lists of eclipse animations that are available (again, see my talk page). The eclipse animations cover the period 1991 to 2050 and are sourced from here: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/SEcat/SEdecade2001.html. The only eclipse animations that are not available in that time period are those that are missing from the source reference. These need to be uploaded and renamed, and may also need to be edited as discussed here: Wikipedia:Picture peer review/Solar eclipse animate (2008-Aug-01).

I really like the infobox that you have added to Solar eclipse of October 3, 2005. However, the terminology used in the infobox may need correction. The partial phase is not called the "general eclipse", it is the "partial eclipse" or something similar. I think the infobox should be made into a template that can be applied to all eclipse pages. -- B.D.Mills  (T, C) 23:04, 9 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-09T23:04:00.000Z","author":"B.d.mills","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-B.d.mills-2008-08-09T23:04:00.000Z-Eclipse_pages_and_animations","replies":[]}}-->

Hey Mike,

Would you consider doing a peer review for Newton's theorem of revolving orbits? I'd like to bring it to WP:GA or FA. That'd be awesome and much appreciated. Thanks, Willow (talk) 00:23, 16 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-16T00:23:00.000Z","author":"WillowW","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WillowW-2008-08-16T00:23:00.000Z-Peer_review_request","replies":[],"displayName":"Willow"}}-->

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A warm hello to all those signed up as guarantor members of the soon-to-be-rebooted UK chapter! Voting is now open over at meta - there's tons of information online over there, and the mailing list has been very active too. Discussion, comment (and even the inevitable technical gremlins!) are most welcome at the meta pages, otherwise please do send in your vote/s, and tell a friend about the chapter too :-) Privatemusings (talk) 22:29, 20 September 2008 (UTC)I'm not actually involved in the election workings, and am just dropping these notes in to help try and spread the word :-) I welcome any or all comment too, but 'election related' stuff really is better suited to the meta pages :-)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-20T22:29:00.000Z","author":"Privatemusings","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Privatemusings-2008-09-20T22:29:00.000Z-Wikimedia_UK_2.0_Voting_is_open_:-)","replies":[]}}-->

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I know you're very busy, but I was wondering if you might want to read over the article on physicist and space colonization advocate Gerard K. O'Neill. The article has grown over 5x in size in the past two months and I would really like some feedback on what I could improve further. Also, if you think it is ready, could you nominate it for 0.7? The selection bot rejected it because of the old assessment and the GA backlog is out of control. Thanks! Wronkiew (talk) 20:53, 24 September 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-24T20:53:00.000Z","author":"Wronkiew","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wronkiew-2008-09-24T20:53:00.000Z-Gerard_K._O'Neill","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2008-09-24T21:41:00.000Z-Wronkiew-2008-09-24T20:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll try to take a look sometime soon. I wouldn't worry about the delay with GA affecting its potential inclusion in version 0.7: the current nominations for that don't seem to be going anywhere... :-/ Mike Peel (talk) 21:41, 24 September 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-24T21:41:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2008-09-24T21:41:00.000Z-Wronkiew-2008-09-24T20:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wronkiew-2008-09-28T04:36:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2008-09-24T21:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you very much for your review. You came up with several shortcomings that I had not considered. I'm looking forward to making the suggested improvements. Wronkiew (talk) 04:36, 28 September 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-28T04:36:00.000Z","author":"Wronkiew","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wronkiew-2008-09-28T04:36:00.000Z-Mike_Peel-2008-09-24T21:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi you signed up as being interested in being a memeber of wikimedia UK 2.0. Just a reminder the that the vote for the inital board at m:Wikimedia UK v2.0/Vote ends next Saturday (September 25th).Geni 03:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-25T03:20:00.000Z","author":"Geni","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geni-2008-09-25T03:20:00.000Z-Wikimedia_UK_2.0_Vote","replies":[]}}-->

I've seen that you're listed as an active participant in WikiProject physics, and particle physics is listed among your areas of interest. The article Quark is currently a featured article candidate. If you're not too busy, could you please review it and express your comments at the nomination page and/or the talk page of the article? Thanks in advance, A r m y 1 9 8 7 ! ! !  16:04, 28 September 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-09-28T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Army1987","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Army1987-2008-09-28T16:04:00.000Z-Could_you_review_the_Quark_article?","replies":["c-SandyGeorgia-2008-10-05T23:43:00.000Z-Army1987-2008-09-28T16:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"A\u202fr\u202fm\u202fy\u202f1\u202f9\u202f8\u202f7\u202f!"}}-->

Mike, are you able to help out at the Quark FAC? The sourcing and the lead need sustained attention. SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-05T23:43:00.000Z","author":"SandyGeorgia","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-SandyGeorgia-2008-10-05T23:43:00.000Z-Army1987-2008-09-28T16:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2008-10-06T08:43:00.000Z-SandyGeorgia-2008-10-05T23:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll try to have a look soon, but I think that page needs some careful reading, which I don't have time to do right now. Mike Peel (talk) 08:43, 6 October 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-06T08:43:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2008-10-06T08:43:00.000Z-SandyGeorgia-2008-10-05T23:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello,

I noticed your name in the PR list.

Can you take a look at this talk page, Wikipedia talk:Peer review/Islamic Golden Age/archive1 please?

The article makes lots of claims that need to be assessed.

Thank you very much.

—Cesar Tort 17:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-25T17:18:00.000Z","author":"Cesar Tort","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cesar_Tort-2008-10-25T17:18:00.000Z-article_which_makes_lots_of_curious_claims","replies":[]}}-->

On 26 October, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article AMiBA, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

Victuallers (talk) 22:47, 26 October 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-26T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Victuallers","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Victuallers-2008-10-26T22:47:00.000Z-DYK_for_AMiBA","replies":[]}}-->

Mike, thanks so much for making the list sortable! That rocks! Ariel♥Gold 01:27, 28 October 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-28T01:27:00.000Z","author":"ArielGold","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ArielGold-2008-10-28T01:27:00.000Z-List_of_cumulative_spacewalk_records","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2008-10-28T09:59:00.000Z-ArielGold-2008-10-28T01:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ariel"}}-->

Thanks for thanking me. :-) Mike Peel (talk) 09:59, 28 October 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-10-28T09:59:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2008-10-28T09:59:00.000Z-ArielGold-2008-10-28T01:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The Greater Manchester WikiProject Newsletter

The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue VIII - June 2008 May issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News No FA news this month... but lots of GA! Old Trafford, Murrays' Mills and 1990 Strangeways Prison riot all passed GAC last month! In previous newsletters, the issue of WP:GM's lack of GAs has been raised numerously, so a large 'well done' to all those who contributed, be it little or large! Also, Milnrow and City of Salford have been nominated at WP:GAC. Feel free to join in with their discussions here and here respectively. To 'obtain GA status for a third of Greater Manchester's Metropolitan Boroughs' is one of WP:GM's short-term aims, let's hope the City of Salford won't be the last borough with this status. In other news, the Grade II* listed buildings in Greater Manchester list has been coming along nicely and may even soon reach FLC! Please help out where you can. Well done to Mike Peel for getting Platt Fields Park onto the DYK! WikiProject Greater Manchester is still the leading local British WikiProject! As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 8 on London! Although taking the lead in FAs, WP:GM is still flagging a little in GAs and falls behind London by 3. This is the closest we have ever got to taking the lead in local British GAs, if you see an article that you think deserves to be a GA, don't hesitate to nominate it at WP:GAC! And don't forget that the Manchester congestion charge article will need all input possible to keep it up to date with the government's new legislation (grumble grumble)... Member News There are 46 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester. Our newest member is: James50567 - a warm welcome from us all! Let's not forget that Jza84 became an administrator this month! Congratulations on your new role. The project is always looking for new members, and if you spot an editor who makes good changes to Greater Machester related articles why not invite them to join up by adding this template to their talk page: {{SUBST:Welcome WPGM}}. Thanks A rather large "thank you" goes to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed.. Written by Polishname • Template by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome! Aims The short-terms aims for the WikiProject are: Obtain FA status for Greater Manchester. Obtain GA status for Salford. Obtain GA status for Kersal Moor. Get a lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county. Obtain FL status for List of railway stations in Greater Manchester. Obtain GA and/or FA status for Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine. Obtain FL status for List of people from Bolton. Obtain GA status for one third of Greater Manchester's Metropolitan Boroughs. Most of the articles covered by our new aims haven't experienced much activity in the past month, except for City of Salford being nominated at WP:GAC. If you think you can help improve an article, be bold and get editing! Articles such as List of people from Bolton and List of railway stations in Greater Manchester already appear very close to FL status and may just require an editor to guide them through the FLC process. Greater Manchester is, of course, our highest priority article. Mr Stephen posted some milestones to getting this article up to FA status a while back. Please check them out and see what you can do. Although these are the project's explicit short term aims, we endeavour to "improving all Wikipedia articles that are concerned with Greater Manchester", so every edit is valuable. Reminders... Images! The rate of good images has gone up since it was mentioned in the last issue, but we'll need more if we're going to get a "lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county"! The requested photographs category lists some of the articles needing images. Assessment As of 12th April, we have had 100% of our articles assessed for quality! Even so, we still 151 of our 1551 article unassessed for importance. Please take a look and see what you can do. Last but not Least... Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion and the list of articles needing cleanup are in permanent need of attention.

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The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue IX - September 2008 June issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News It's been three months since the last newsletter, but there's been a lot going on... Promoted articles: Greater Manchester is one of our project's top priority articles, the Greater Manchester article comprehensively covers everything to do with the county, from culture and history, to transport and demography. Manchester United F.C. records and statistics is about the records of one of Greater Manchester's best know clubs, which feats like "the club currently holds the record for the most FA Cup triumphs with 11". City of Salford is about the local government area and Greater Manchester's second city. Getting Salford to GA is one our the aim's of our project, so hopefully this may help. Castleshaw Roman fort and Mamucium are about Greater Manchester's two Roman forts and are part of the county's lesser known ancient history. Hyde Road in Ardwick was the home of Manchester City F.C. from 1887 until it was demolished in 1923. Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal is about the history and modern restoration of the disused canal running through the county. (It's now at FAC, so please improve the article if you can!) Manchester Mummy is about Hannah Beswick, whose macabre fear of being buried alive lead to her demanding that her body was kept above ground and checked periodically for signs of life. Milnrow is a small town in Rochdale with a long history. The wool trade was important to the town and was the basis of much of its industry. (It's also the first GA for Rochdale!) Ordsall Hall is an important Tudor hall in Salford with a reputation for being haunted! Royton is a town in Oldham that was strongly influenced by the Industrial Revolution. Trafford Park was the first industrial estate in the world! Added to the project: Some articles out there are already good quality and have been added to the project as we continue to expand: Joy Division, the rock band from Salford that would later become New Order and perhaps best known for their song 'Love Will Tear Us Apart'. Bert Trautmann is the German goalkeeper who broke his neck playing for Manchester City... and carried on playing! The Peterloo Massacre appeared on the front page on 16 August! Well done to everyone who contributed to the article about a key moment of Greater Manchester's history and managed to get it showcased. A new portal has been set up! The Greater Manchester portal showcases some of the best articles to do with the county. Thanks to Polishname for single-handedly getting it up and running. Castleshaw Roman fort, Cine City, Withington, The Towers (Manchester), Daily Express Building, Withington Community Hospital, Mamucium, Port of Manchester, and Mark Addy (Albert Medal) have all appeared on the DYK? section of the main page! For details of the DYKs by the project that have appeared on the main page, see Did you know? There is a proposal to move members who haven't edited for a while to an inactive members list, so if you've not been edited recently but still want to be a member let us know! WikiProject Greater Manchester is still the leading local British WikiProject! As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 5 on Yorkshire and 11 on London! WP:GM now is the leading project in terms of GAs too with 5 more than London and 7 more than Yorkshire! If you see an article that you think deserves to be a GA, don't hesitate to nominate it at WP:GAC! WT:GM: The project's talk page is a forum for discussion and to keep up to date with the latest project developments and initiatives put it on your watchlist! Recently there have been discussions on articles to be deleted, the congestion charge, how to get members involved and working together, and plenty of other stuff. Written by Nev1 • Template by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome! Aims The short-terms aims for the WikiProject are: Obtain GA status for Salford. Obtain GA status for Kersal Moor. Get a lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county. Obtain FL status for List of railway stations in Greater Manchester. Obtain GA and/or FA status for Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine. Obtain FL status for List of people from Bolton. Obtain GA status for one third of Greater Manchester's Metropolitan Boroughs. Obtain B -> GA status for Rochdale, Wigan, Bury, Bolton and Stockport. Although the project has had a lot of GAs and FAs recently, most of the articles covered by our short term aims haven't experienced much activity recently. Baby has undergone some change, but has a long way to go, and List of railway stations in Greater Manchester is very close to FL quality. If you think you can help improve an article, be bold and get editing! Articles such as List of railway stations in Greater Manchester already appear very close to FL status and may just require an editor to guide them through the FLC process. Although these are the project's explicit short term aims, we endeavour to "improving all Wikipedia articles that are concerned with Greater Manchester", so every edit is valuable. Member News There are 53 members of WikiProject Greater Manchester. Since 12 June, the project has gained 7 new members: A1personage SquarePeg Andysimo123 Aygo Lozleader AnIco Hindleyite Welcome to everyone, and let's remember to make these new members feel included in the project! If you need help, you can go to the project talk page, or perhaps look at the list of members to see if anyone can help. The project is always looking for new members, and if you spot an editor who makes good changes to Greater Machester related articles why not invite them to join up by adding this template to their talk page: {{SUBST:Welcome WPGM}}. Thanks A big "thank you" goes to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed. Reminders... Images! There are some good images around, but more are still needed if we're going to get a "lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county"! The requested photographs category lists some of the articles needing images. Assessment As of 1st September, we have had 99.5% of our articles assessed for quality! Even so, we still 157 of our 1662 article unassessed for importance. Please take a look and see what you can do. Articles needing attention Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion and the list of articles needing cleanup are in permanent need of attention. Last but not Least... If you've got a story to go in next month's news letter, leave a note here.

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The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue X - October 2008 September issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News Usually this is where this month's promoted articles are listed, however there is something more important this month. In September, the project was notified which of its articles were selected for a DVD version of wikipedia. The 49 are listed here, although the quality ratings are a bit out of date. Twenty-two of the articles were GA-class or higher, and only five were below B-class. These are articles that have been selected by wikipedia, not simply as the best but the most important, so they require our attention, most importantly those that fall below GA standards. We still have until the 20th October to make changes to the articles, so please if you think you can improve any of them in any way please do so! In other news, it's been a busy month with plenty going on... Promoted articles: The Manchester, Bolton and Bury Canal is a disused canal undergoing restoration. The canal, which travels between Bolton and Manchester with a branch heading north east to Bury, was abandoned in 1961. Old Trafford is the iconic home ground of Manchester United F.C.; it has staged international matches and is the only ground in the country to have been given a five-star rating by UEFA. List of railway stations in Greater Manchester details the 100 stations along Greater Manchester's 142 miles of track, with figures such as number of users. Having previously been described as "bare, wet, and almost worthless", Ashton-under-Lyne rose to prominence in the Industrial Revolution as one of the most famous mill towns in the north west. Tameside is a metropolitan borough east of Manchester, encompassing the towns of Ashton-under-Lyne, Audenshaw, Denton, Droylsden, Dukinfield, Hyde, Longdendale, Mossley and Stalybridge. Henry Taylor is Oldham's forgotten Olympic hero. He won 3 swimming golds at the 1908 Olympics, a record for most golds in a single games by a Briton until Chris Hoy equalled it this year. Ronnie Wallwork was born in Newton Heath and has represented the England U20 football team; after playing for Manchester United, he spent most of his career playing for West Bromwich Albion F.C. Henry Taylor, Peel Park, Salford, and the Manchester and Bolton Railway appeared on the DYK? section of the main page! For details of the DYKs by the project that have appeared on the main page, see Did you know? WikiProject Greater Manchester is still the leading local British WikiProject! As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 8 on Yorkshire and 15 on London! WP:GM now is the leading project in terms of GAs too with 5 more than London and 7 more than Yorkshire! If you see an article that you think deserves to be a GA, don't hesitate to nominate it at WP:GAC! WT:GM: The project's talk page is a forum for discussion and to keep up to date with the latest project developments and initiatives put it on your watchlist! Recently there have been discussions on articles to be deleted, the congestion charge, how to get members involved and working together, and plenty of other stuff. There wasn't space in the last newsletter, but as of 24 July 2008 the project has a list of articles that have tags on them. As of 14 July 2008, 351 (21.8%) of our articles need a clean-up, although this should have gone down as some have already received attention (the bot does not seem to update the listing often). In other news, the Merseyside Wikiproject has been set up. If you have an interest in the area or want to help out in any way, head over to the project page and pitch in. Written by Nev1 Template by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome! Aims The short-terms aims for the WikiProject are: Obtain GA status for Salford. Obtain GA status for Kersal Moor. Get a lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county. Obtain GA and/or FA status for Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine. Obtain FL status for List of people from Bolton. Obtain B -> GA status for Rochdale, Wigan, Bury, Bolton and Stockport. In the past month we've achieved two of our short-term aims! The List of railway stations in Greater Manchester was expertly guided through the featured list process with hardly a problem, and now that Tameside is a GA a third of the county's boroughs are GA status or better. There's still plenty to do, some our our top-priority articles need referencing or tidying up, so don't hesitate to dive in! If you think you can help improve an article, be bold and get editing! And please keep an eye on the 49 articles selected for the wikipedia DVD. Although these are the project's explicit short term aims, we endeavour to "improving all Wikipedia articles that are concerned with Greater Manchester", so every edit is valuable. Member News No new members joined the project in September and there are 49 active members of WikiProject Greater Manchester. A new list of inactive members has been started. Anyone who hasn't made an edit to wikipedia since 1 March 2008 automatically goes onto the list. If you need help, you can go to the project talk page, or perhaps look at the list of members to see if anyone can help. The project is always looking for new members, and if you spot an editor who makes good changes to Greater Machester related articles why not invite them to join up by adding this template to their talk page: {{SUBST:Welcome WPGM}}. Thanks A big "thank you" goes to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed. Reminders... Images! There are some good images around, but more are still needed if we're going to get a "lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county"! The requested photographs category lists some of the articles needing images. Assessment As of 4th October, we have had 100% of our articles assessed for quality! Even so, 151 of our 1684 articles remain unassessed for importance. Please take a look and see what you can do. Articles needing attention Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion and the list of articles needing cleanup are in permanent need of attention. Last but not Least... If you've got a story to go in next month's news letter, leave a note here.

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The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue XI - November 2008 October issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News It's been a quieter month than September, but plenty has been going on... Promoted articles: Born in Stalybridge and raised in Ashton-under-Lyne, Hugh Mason was a mill owner and politician. He was popular among his workers for shortening the working week at his factories without cutting their pay. Bank Street was the home ground of Manchester United F.C. from 1893 until 1910. The site was abandoned because it was not big enough in the opinion of club owner John Henry Davies. No articles were DYKs this month. For details of the DYKs by the project that have appeared on the main page, see Did you know? WikiProject Greater Manchester is still the leading local British WikiProject! As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 8 on Yorkshire and 14 on London! WP:GM now is the leading project in terms of GAs too with 7 more than both Yorkshire and London! If you see an article that you think deserves to be a GA, don't hesitate to nominate it at WP:GAC! Trafford was featured on the main page on the 12th October and was viewed 13,800 on the day (27,100 times over 4 days). The project's cleanup listing has been updated with stats from 8 October. As of 14 July, 351 (21.8%) of our articles need a clean-up, this has risen to 447 out of 1689 (26.5%). Although this is disappointing, it reflects a more widespread use of tags on articles to indicate what needs attention rather than a decline in the standard of this project's articles. WT:GM: The project's talk page is a forum for discussion and to keep up to date with the latest project developments and initiatives put it on your watchlist! Recently there have been discussions on articles to be deleted, the congestion charge, how to get members involved and working together, and plenty of other stuff. Member News There are now 53 active members of WikiProject Greater Manchester as 4 new members joined the project in October: TheFamousPeter Felix Folio SecundusTheFamousPeter RuthAS Anthony of the Desert Welcome to everyone, and let's remember to make these new members feel included in the project! If you need help, you can go to the project talk page, or perhaps look at the list of members to see if anyone can help. The project is always looking for new members, and if you spot an editor who makes good changes to Greater Machester related articles why not invite them to join up by adding this template to their talk page: {{SUBST:Welcome WPGM}}. Written by Nev1 Template by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome! Aims The short-terms aims for the WikiProject are: Obtain GA status for Salford. Obtain GA status for Kersal Moor. Get a lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county. Obtain GA and/or FA status for Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine. Obtain FL status for List of people from Bolton. Obtain B -> GA status for Rochdale, Wigan, Bury, Bolton and Stockport. On top of these aims, some our our top-priority articles need referencing or tidying up, so don't hesitate to dive in! If you think you can help improve an article, be bold and get editing! Although these are the project's explicit short term aims, we endeavour to "improving all Wikipedia articles that are concerned with Greater Manchester", so every edit is valuable. Thanks A big "thank you" goes to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed. Reminders... Images! There are some good images around, but more are still needed if we're going to get a "lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county"! The requested photographs category lists some of the articles needing images. Assessment As of 1st November, we have had 100% of our articles assessed for quality! Even so, 75 of our 1708 articles remain unassessed for importance. Please take a look and see what you can do. Articles needing attention Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion and the list of articles needing cleanup are in permanent need of attention. Last but not Least... If you've got a story to go in next month's news letter, leave a note here.

Can you update the colors for the space agencies in this section. List of space agencies Mickman1234 (talk) 21:59, 15 November 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-15T21:59:00.000Z","author":"Mickman1234","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mickman1234-2008-11-15T21:59:00.000Z-Hi_there_:)","replies":[]}}-->

Nigeria needs to be colored yellow because they had and have satelites in space by their space agency listed on the page, List of space agencies . Mickman1234 (talk) 02:45, 18 November 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-18T02:45:00.000Z","author":"Mickman1234","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mickman1234-2008-11-18T02:45:00.000Z-Hi_there_:)","replies":[]}}-->

Hey there. The hook you've suggested at T:TDYK#40 foot telescope is too long at 234 characters (it should be under 200). Thanks, —97198 (talk) 04:02, 23 November 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-23T04:02:00.000Z","author":"97198","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-97198-2008-11-23T04:02:00.000Z-DYK:_40_foot_telescope","replies":[]}}-->

Because the Signpost hasn't been sent in a while, to save space, I've condensed all seven issues that were not sent into this archive. Only the three issues from November are below.

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On 27 November, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article 40-foot telescope, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

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		I hereby award you the Science barnstar for doing all the hard work in getting List of moons and with it, List of moons by diameter up to FL status. Well done! Serendipodous 00:53, 30 November 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-30T00:53:00.000Z","author":"Serendipodous","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Serendipodous-2008-11-30T00:53:00.000Z-Barnstar","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2008-11-30T14:12:00.000Z-Serendipodous-2008-11-30T00:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Serendi"}}-->

Thank you! Although I'm not sure I did the hard work - I stopped editing the article before it entered FLC. :) Congratulations to you for pushing it the rest of the way. Mike Peel (talk) 14:12, 30 November 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-30T14:12:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2008-11-30T14:12:00.000Z-Serendipodous-2008-11-30T00:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Summary: Wikimedians in the United Kingdom are working to set up a chapter of the Wikimedia Foundation, which will aid and encourage people to collect, develop and effectively disseminate knowledge. A board of five members has been elected, and a company has now been set up. Membership applications are now invited, and will be processed as soon as we have a bank account. The organisation needs the support and involvement of people like you.

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The WikiProject Greater Manchester Newsletter Issue XII - December 2008 November issue Got any suggestions? — Add them here Project News November has been a successful month, with lots of progress made on articles, and more work in the pipe-line: Promoted articles: Scout Moor Wind Farm is England's largest onshore wind farm. Although it was opposed by environmentalists, the wind farm was opened on 26 September 2008 and provides enough power for 40,000 homes. The Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine was the world's first stored-program computer. It ran its first program on 21 June 1948. The SSEM was a template for the Manchester Mark 1. The River Irwell runs 39 miles from its source in Lancashire until it joins with the River Mersey. The river was important in the Industrial Revolution, and was left poluted with industrial waste and lifeless. The Manchester and Bolton Railway opened in 1838 with passenger and freight services. Though some of the original stations are no longer in use, the railway is now part of the Manchester to Preston Line. The Bridgewater Canal is currently a GA nominee and the Scout Moor Wind Farm is under scrutiny at WP:FAC. Please keep an eye on these articles and if any issues are raised in their reviews help to address them. Hopefully, next month we can report on two more promoted articles! Scout Moor Wind Farm featured in the DYK section of the front page last month. For details of the DYKs by the project that have appeared on the main page, see Did you know? WikiProject Greater Manchester is still the leading local British WikiProject! As far as featured content goes, we have a lead of 8 on Yorkshire and 14 on London! WP:GM now is the leading project in terms of GAs too with 10 more Yorkshire and 11 more than London! If you see an article that you think deserves to be a GA, don't hesitate to nominate it at WP:GAC! WT:GM: The project's talk page is a forum for discussion and to keep up to date with the latest project developments and initiatives put it on your watchlist! Recently there have been discussions on articles to be deleted, the congestion charge, how to get members involved and working together, and plenty of other stuff. Member News There are now 50 active members of WikiProject Greater Manchester as 2 new members joined the project in November: How do you turn this on ClemRutter Welcome to everyone, and let's remember to make these new members feel included in the project! If you need help, you can go to the project talk page, or perhaps look at the list of members to see if anyone can help. The project is always looking for new members, and if you spot an editor who makes good changes to Greater Machester related articles why not invite them to join up by adding this template to their talk page: {{SUBST:Welcome WPGM}}. Written by Nev1 Template by Jza84 | Single-Page View Would you like to write the next newsletter for WP:GM?? Please nominate yourself at WT:GM! New editors are always welcome! Aims In November, our project aims were revamped. Our short term aims now are: Obtain GA status for Salford. Obtain GA status for Kersal Moor. Obtain GA status for Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine. Obtain GA status for River Irwell. Obtain FA status for Scout Moor Wind Farm. Obtain GA status for Radcliffe, Greater Manchester. Obtain GA status for Manchester city centre. Obtain GA status for Congestion charging in Greater Manchester and Greater Manchester Transport Innovation Fund (TiF). Get a lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county. Already we're making great progress, and Manchester Small-Scale Experimental Machine and the River Irwell are already GAs, while Scout Moor Wind Farm is on the way to becoming an FA! The Congestion charging in Greater Manchester and Greater Manchester Transport Innovation Fund (TiF) are hot topics at the moment with the referendum currently open. As an aside, some of our top-priority articles need referencing or tidying up, so don't hesitate to dive in. If you think you can help improve an article, be bold and get editing! Although these are the project's explicit short term aims, we endeavour to "improving all Wikipedia articles that are concerned with Greater Manchester", so every edit is valuable. Thanks A big "thank you" goes to all the editors who help make this WikiProject what it is; no edit goes unnoticed. Reminders... Images! There are some good images around, but more are still needed if we're going to get a "lead/static image in every infobox of every town in the county"! The requested photographs category lists some of the articles needing images. Articles needing attention Please remember that the list of stubs needing expansion and the Wikipedia:WikiProject Greater Manchester/Cleanup listing|list of articles needing cleanup]] are in permanent need of attention. I know it's early but since there won't be a newsletter for a month... merry Christmas everyone, enjoy the holiday and mince pies.

I have nominated Hubble Deep Field for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. —Ceran [ speak ] 14:31, 14 December 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-14T14:31:00.000Z","author":"Ceranthor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceranthor-2008-12-14T14:31:00.000Z-FAR","replies":[],"displayName":"Ceran"}}-->

No, that's perfect. Thanks! Hipocrite (talk) 16:26, 23 December 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-23T16:26:00.000Z","author":"Hipocrite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hipocrite-2008-12-23T16:26:00.000Z-Perfect","replies":[]}}-->

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect James N. Gardner. Since you had some involvement with the James N. Gardner redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Six (talk) 11:58, 24 December 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-24T11:58:00.000Z","author":"Six","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Six-2008-12-24T11:58:00.000Z-James_N._Gardner_listed_at_RfD","replies":[]}}-->

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I've looked into things a bit more, and the arXiv link isn't for the conference. It's an entirely different, although related, publication (hence the two different bibcodes), so they should be two different refs.

Interesting factoid, the arXiv linked publication was to appear in Nature on 27 August 2008, but that edition of Nature (394825-826) has instead an article named White dwarfs sing the blues by Harvey B. Ricther, who is not the same author as in the archiv link. I don't really know what to make of this. Headbomb {^ταλκ_{κοντριβς} – WP Physics} 21:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-27T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Headbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headbomb-2008-12-27T21:26:00.000Z-HDF_ref","replies":["c-Mike_Peel-2008-12-27T21:42:00.000Z-Headbomb-2008-12-27T21:26:00.000Z","c-Mike_Peel-2008-12-27T21:46:00.000Z-Headbomb-2008-12-27T21:26:00.000Z","c-Mike_Peel-2008-12-27T21:47:00.000Z-Headbomb-2008-12-27T21:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

The Hansen paper is later on in that issue, p. 860: [1] Mike Peel (talk) 21:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-27T21:42:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2008-12-27T21:42:00.000Z-Headbomb-2008-12-27T21:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I _think_ that Hansen originally published in the Conference proceedings, which is the version on the arxiv and referenced on ads, and then published another version in Nature. That would make sense if someone at the conference noticed his paper and suggested that it was worthy of Nature. Mike Peel (talk) 21:46, 27 December 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-27T21:46:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2008-12-27T21:46:00.000Z-Headbomb-2008-12-27T21:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

... and to complete the picture, see [2]. Mike Peel (talk) 21:47, 27 December 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-27T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Mike Peel","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mike_Peel-2008-12-27T21:47:00.000Z-Headbomb-2008-12-27T21:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You may be interested: Wikipedia:Meetup/Manchester 4. Thanks, Majorly talk 18:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-31T18:51:00.000Z","author":"Majorly","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Majorly-2008-12-31T18:51:00.000Z-Meetup","replies":[]}}-->

Passed GA, my 2nd ever, but it seems comprehensive (which I think is the main issue).--Grahame (talk) 12:09, 3 January 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-01-03T12:09:00.000Z","author":"Grahamec","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grahamec-2009-01-03T12:09:00.000Z-B_of_the_Bang","replies":[],"displayName":"Grahame"}}-->

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