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For future reference, you need to do the dummy edit with the link to the page that the article was translated from and stating the timestamp, as per WP:RIA{{Translated page}} is a courtesy. There's no need to redo them, although I have done some when closing the other sections, but please keep in mind for the future. Sennecaster (Chat) 02:03, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002020300","author":"Sennecaster","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sennecaster-20241002020300-Wikipedia:Contributor_copyright_investigations\/Peripatetic","replies":["c-Matrix-20241002164000-Sennecaster-20241002020300"]}}-->

@Sennecaster: That is not strictly necessary. WP:RIA says "you may use an edit summary like this" (i.e. not a requirement to follow strictly). Per Wikipedia:Text of the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International License, all you really need to do is include a URL/hyperlink somewhere to the original source for translated articles. When you save an edit, it says "[y]ou agree that a hyperlink or URL is sufficient attribution under the Creative Commons license" at the bottom. I did that with {{Translated page}}. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 16:40, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002164000","author":"Matrix","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Matrix-20241002164000-Sennecaster-20241002020300","replies":["c-Sennecaster-20241002203000-Matrix-20241002164000"],"displayName":"user"}}-->

When translating material from a Wikimedia project licensed under CC BY-SA, a note identifying the Wikimedia source (such as an interlanguage link) and the page name must be provided in an edit summary in the translated page, ideally in its first edit from WP:PATT, emphasis mine. Sennecaster (Chat) 20:30, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002203000","author":"Sennecaster","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sennecaster-20241002203000-Matrix-20241002164000","replies":["c-Matrix-20241002203300-Sennecaster-20241002203000"]}}-->

@Sennecaster: Thanks for clarifying. —Matrix(!) {user - talk? - _uselesscontributions} 20:33, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002203300","author":"Matrix","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Matrix-20241002203300-Sennecaster-20241002203000","replies":["c-Sennecaster-20241002203800-Matrix-20241002203300"],"displayName":"user"}}-->

No worries. I honestly blame how poorly worded a lot of the copyright policy is for CWW confusion, but it's still a good thing to point out for the future. Sennecaster (Chat) 20:38, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002203800","author":"Sennecaster","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Sennecaster-20241002203800-Matrix-20241002203300","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Matrix! Your signature is quite lengthy and elaborate. Could you please consider shortening it and starting with a link to your user page, as is standard for most signatures? This would help user scripts easily identify your signature (e.g., for replacement or modification) and keep things more straightforward. Thanks. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 08:57, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018085700","author":"Daniel Quinlan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018085700-Custom_signature","replies":["c-Matrix-20241018160400-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018085700"]}}-->

@Daniel Quinlan: I've shortened the signature. I don't really understand why a link to the userpage at the start is required though, mind explaining? —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {u - t? - _uselessc} 16:04, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018160400","author":"Matrix","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Matrix-20241018160400-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018085700","replies":["c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018165900-Matrix-20241018160400"],"displayName":"one"}}-->

Thanks for considering changes, I appreciate it! The reason for having the user page link at the start is mainly for consistency and technical reasons. Until T27141 is addressed, most user scripts in this area rely on the user page link to identify where a signature begins. In your case, your signature now looks like it starts at "u" which confuses scripts into thinking that text before that link is part of your comment. It's an unusual case. Your signature is probably 1 in 10,000 from a difficulty standpoint so making code changes to handle it would break proper recognition of more signatures than it would fix. (No joke, I've tested several user scripts that I've been working on with that many user signatures.)

From a usability perspective, it also follows the Principle of least astonishment. Users expect that clicking a username will take them to the user page, and anything else can be jarring. WP:CUSTOMSIG/P has some additional best practices although it doesn't talk about technical issues. I hope this clarifies the requests. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 16:59, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018165900","author":"Daniel Quinlan","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018165900-Matrix-20241018160400","replies":["c-Matrix-20241018180200-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018165900"]}}-->

Thanks for your detailed explanation! I have changed it to be better now. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {u - t? - _uselessc} 18:02, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018180200","author":"Matrix","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Matrix-20241018180200-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018165900","replies":["c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018193000-Matrix-20241018180200"],"displayName":"u"}}-->

Thanks, that fixed it! The "u" might be unnecessary if you wanted to be more efficient with your signature (hopefully changing that won't break my code, it feels like a minor miracle that it's parsing your signature correctly now). Regards. Daniel Quinlan (talk) 19:30, 18 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241018193000","author":"Daniel Quinlan","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Daniel_Quinlan-20241018193000-Matrix-20241018180200","replies":[]}}-->

I noticed your attempts at twerking the backgrounds at template:Braille cell/core then reverting yourself. I just wanted to point out, in case you didn't know about it, that there is an option called "Preview page with this template" below the standard save/preview/show changes buttons, which will show you what your alterations will do to a page that uses the template you are modifying. Just FYI. VanIsaac, GHTV ^contr_about 00:37, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210003700","author":"Vanisaac","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vanisaac-20241210003700-Template_previews","replies":["c-Matrix-20241210172700-Vanisaac-20241210003700"],"displayName":"Van"}}-->

@VanIsaac: That doesn't work with core templates since the template itself is invisible. —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {u - t? - _uselessc} 17:27, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210172700","author":"Matrix","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Matrix-20241210172700-Vanisaac-20241210003700","replies":["c-Matrix-20241210173300-Matrix-20241210172700"],"displayName":"u"}}-->

I'll use the sandbox now, I thought the change would just work, but underestimated CSS' ability to not work —Matrix(!) _{ping one}^{when replying} {u - t? - _uselessc} 17:33, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241210173300","author":"Matrix","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Matrix-20241210173300-Matrix-20241210172700","replies":[],"displayName":"u"}}-->

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