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Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Merrilee Proffitt, Chris Cyr, and Rob Fernandez on a project to surface library holdings to indicate possible notability for persons, June 30th. Agenda
It is now possible to search for EntitySchema pages using a shortcut “E:”, similar to “P:” for Properties and “L:” for Lexemes. For example: E:E10 or E:kakapo. T245529
Continued working on the first version of Federation, which will allow other Wikibase installations to use Wikidata's Properties - getting closer to a first testable version
More work on consistency of user interface components
Finalizing the click-dummy for the first version of the Query Builder so we can start testing it with some editors soon and get feedback.
Continuing to investigate how to improve our APIs and other ways to improve access to the data in Wikidata for programmers
Discussed the future of the Wikidata Query Service and ideas for next steps we can take to make it scale better. Guillaume will join the next office hour to talk about it.
More work on clearer separation of Wikibase repository and Wikibase client code in order to improve maintainability
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Ptable displays the periodic table automatically extracted from information provided by Wikidata; it also provides a check that all the elements are there with some basic properties. Additional pages provide charts of the nuclides under different criteria such as half-life. Each element or nuclide is linked to its Wikidata item for more information or to edit if necessary.
Polishing the first step of Federation (using Wikidata's Properties in another Wikibase installation) (incl. preventing users from selecting a federated property with a non-supported data type (phab:T252012) and preventing users from accessing Special:NewProperty when federation is enabled (phab:T255576) and viewing a list of all properties when federation is enabled (phab:T246339))
Continuing research and interviews around the topic of making it easier to access Wikidata's data for programmers
Doing first testing of mockups and prototypes of the first version of the Query Builder - coding can start soon
Convert a few properties from string to external identifier: Linguasphere code (P1396), KOATUU identifier (P1077) and ISIN (P946)
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Continued building out documentation for Federated Properties (phabricator:T255651) and making interface improvements to the first stage of the feature (incl. phabricator:T246886, changes to special pages that interact with both Items/Properties, and phabricator:T255581, changes to Special:ListDataTypes when federation is enabled)
More work on the consistent design system
More work on decoupling the different Wikibase extensions from each other to make development easier
Finalizing research and interviews to better understand what could be improved in the way developers access Wikidata's data (APIs, SPARQL)
Testing the first prototype of the Simple Query Builder with some editors to get final input before coding starts
Sorting of language links on Wikipedia and the other Wikimedia projects was broken (presumably by a change in MediaWiki core). A fix is being worked on. (phabricator:T257625)
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Upcoming: next Wikidata office hour, July 21st at 16:00 UTC (18:00 CEST) in the Wikidata Telegram group. Query Service special with guests from WMF Search Team.
Upcoming: Wikidata Lab XXIV: Posicionamento digital relativo with Ederporto - July 23 17:00 UTC (14:00 BRT). In this technical training, we'll study the possibilities and functionalities of relative digital positioning in images and do practical activities on this topic using historical photographs of the city of São Paulo. The event will be held in Portuguese. Join us!
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Upcoming: Kidok-Workshop, online workshop about church building data. In German, non-native users welcome. Currently looking for a date in the upcoming week and people to help!
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Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Liam Wyatt on WikiCite and its future plans, ways to get involved, and discussions that are happening in the community, 28 July. Agenda
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Changed the size of image previews to 1024 in the gallery view of the query service to avoid some images not loading sometimes (phabricator:T258241)
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Fixed the directionality of text pieces in placeholders that mix LTR and RTL (phabricator:T253812)
Continued work on first pieces of design system to make coding new features easier in the future
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Finished first piece of research on how to make it easier to access Wikidata's data for programmers - more work to be done
Preparing to start coding on the Query Builder to make it easier to create queries without having to know SPARQL
Finished running the scraper that gets potential new references for unreferenced statements and preparing it for publishing
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Hallo Martin, thank you for the wonderful and interesting contributions in the area of Japanese art. I would just like to point out to you in case you were not aware of it how to caption images, which is described here in detail [1]. Mentions of museum collections also normally do not belong in the introductory text but can be mentioned further below in the article. In a biography a lead image should be of the person itself, followed by the artwork. If it's only about the artwork then obviously the lead image reflects that accordingly. If you have any questions or need help please do let me know. Thank you. Gryffindor (talk) 00:22, 23 July 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-23T00:22:00.000Z","author":"Gryffindor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T00:22:00.000Z-Image_caption","replies":["c-MartinPoulter-2020-07-23T09:31:00.000Z-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T00:22:00.000Z","c-MartinPoulter-2020-07-23T09:44:00.000Z-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T00:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi User:Gryffindor and thanks for this pointer and for your recent article improvements. I agree that ideally in a biography the lead image should be of the person, but often we don't have an image of the person, as with Kawade Shibatarō and Namikawa Sōsuke, so naturally the first image will be something else. Although the MOS says captions for artworks should name the artist, this is surely redundant when the image appears in the biography of the artist: it's implicitly obvious who the artist is. That's why I've removed artist names from a couple of image captions in biographies. I don't know if you're involved in building GLAM partnerships, but in my experience prominently crediting the source collection is encouraging for partner organisations as well as a benefit to readers; the MOS doesn't say not to do this, just that it's not as important as other information. Can you explain to me your rationale for removing alt text from galleries? I know it isn't very informative, but having alt text is better than none. My advice to you on external links is taken from WP:ELCITE, namely "If you link to another website, you should give your reader a good summary of the site's contents, and the reasons why this specific website is relevant to the article in question. If you link to an online article, try to provide as much meaningful article information as possible." Could you do this for the links you've recently added? Thanks in advance, MartinPoulter (talk) 09:31, 23 July 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-23T09:31:00.000Z","author":"MartinPoulter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MartinPoulter-2020-07-23T09:31:00.000Z-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T00:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
And I've just seen your DYK review and your inventive solution to the image aspect ratio problem, so thanks very much indeed for that. MartinPoulter (talk) 09:44, 23 July 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-23T09:44:00.000Z","author":"MartinPoulter","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MartinPoulter-2020-07-23T09:44:00.000Z-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T00:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T15:42:00.000Z-MartinPoulter-2020-07-23T09:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hallo Martin. Concerning mentioning museums, etc. in the lead text I recommend WP:NPOV. Why mention one or two museums, why not mention and list all of them? I think it can quickly then become unwieldy if it should be neutral. If it's a unique, famous piece then the current location can be mentioned in the infobox, see Rosetta Stone for example. Or if there is a specific museum dedicated to just that one artist like Vincent van Gogh. I hope I am making sense to you in what I am trying to say. For the alt text in the galleries my apologies if I removed that, of course that can stay. Concerning what I think you mention as the bare links I have added? I think there is a bot that comes in tags it automatically, but in the interest of time I done a manual run through https://refill.toolforge.org/, I don't know if you are familiar with it? It's quite useful. You're very welcome with the DYK and image, it's just a suggestion, please feel free to improve on it of course. Thank you and good luck. Gryffindor (talk) 15:42, 23 July 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-23T15:42:00.000Z","author":"Gryffindor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T15:42:00.000Z-MartinPoulter-2020-07-23T09:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-MartinPoulter-2020-07-28T10:33:00.000Z-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T15:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
@Gryffindor: NPOV, as I understand it, doesn't rule out adding this information to captions. I agree that it's unbalanced to just mention one collection; that's why my practice has been to credit multiple collections in image captions. It seems now we're into the realm of your personal opinion rather than established policy or practice, because this discussion started with you pointing me to a guideline, and that guideline specifically mentions the collection as information that can be put in the caption of an artwork image. That's the guideline I'm happy with and I was following. I also think it's helpful to list collections which are known to contain an artist's work and this is what I've been doing. I agree that we don't want a huge, unwieldy list but I haven't come across that situation yet.
The external links on Kawade Shibatarō are no longer bare URLs, but the link text is in Japanese, which obviously isn't much use on English Wikipedia. Again, look at the guideline WP:ELCITE that I quoted. Readers of the article need to be told what the link is and how it is relevant to the article they are reading. It goes without saying that this should be in a language they understand. Please could you fix this? MartinPoulter (talk) 10:33, 28 July 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-28T10:33:00.000Z","author":"MartinPoulter","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MartinPoulter-2020-07-28T10:33:00.000Z-Gryffindor-2020-07-23T15:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
SQID allows you to analyse, browse and query Wikidata. SQID is inspired by Magnus Manske's Reasonator, but focuses on prominently featuring information about Wikidata classes and properties.
a graph of MPs and parties in the Swedish Parliament and with whom they worked together with to create motions 2018 SPOILER: >95% is just with people in the same party
The last week was our quarterly prototyping week. We worked on the following projects. None of them are ready for prime-time yet but we'll continue with them.
Slices: We've had a lot of requests for accessing dumps of a smaller part of Wikidata's data since rarely anyone needs the complete data in Wikidata. The tricky part is figuring out which part is needed and if any of that can be generalized. We looked into for example how to make dump generation faster so we could potentially produce more smaller dumps that only cover a part of Wikidata's data, either thematically (e.g. humans) or by type of data (e.g. only statements and English labels and aliases but not sitelinks or descriptions).
REST API: As part of our effort to make it easier to access Wikidata's data for programmers we looked into a REST API. We tried to see if we could cover the existing action API modules in a REST API. We could. We'll take this as input for our ongoing API work now.
Improving quality ratings through ORES: ORES can judge the quality of an Item automatically. It is currently not very good at it however. We tried a few things to make it more accurate and found some easy wins we'll probably make happen in the next weeks.
Query manipulator: One of the ways we could potentially improve the load situation of the Wikidata Query Service is by automatically analyzing and then redirecting a bunch of queries to other systems that are more suitable for that particular type of query. The nice thing about that would be that the person/program sending the query wouldn't have to care about it but it'd be done automagically for them. We tried to build such a system and the results look very promising but more work/experimenting is needed, especially together with the WMF Search team.
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On 7 August 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Kawade Shibatarō, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Kawade Shibatarō co-developed the moriage ('piling-up') technique, which gives enamel artworks a three-dimensional effect? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Kawade Shibatarō. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Kawade Shibatarō), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.
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Upcoming: Next Linked Data for Libraries LD4 Wikidata Affinity Group call: Daniel Mietchen and Lane Rasberry about Scholia, a project to present bibliographic information and scholarly profiles of authors and institutions, 11 August. [Agenda]
Video: Wikipedia Weekly Network - QuickStatements and Distributed Wikidata games Facebook, YouTube
Video: Collaboration, contribution and use of Wikidata and Wikipedia by academic libraries (in Greek). YouTube
Librarians work to broaden Vanderbilt’s research reputation with Wikidata tools. "To speed up the creation of metadata about faculty and their publications, Steven Baskauf, data science and data curation specialist for libraries, developed “VanderBot,” a set of scripts that can read and write to Wikidata, greatly improving the efficiency by which Vanderbilt’s faculty are discoverable through Wikidata".
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