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If that was Clarity, then I must be ... Spartacus. Thanks. Clarityfiend (talk) 05:31, 4 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-04T05:31:00.000Z","author":"Clarityfiend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Clarityfiend-2012-01-04T05:31:00.000Z-Talk_page_reversion","replies":[]}}-->

The December 2011 issue of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. Thank you. —Peppage (talk | contribs) 22:08, 4 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-04T22:08:00.000Z","author":"Peppage","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Peppage-2012-01-04T22:08:00.000Z-WikiProject_Film_December_2011_Newsletter","replies":[]}}-->

You noted in your warning that you think this IP (75.144.36.137) might be a bot. It's the IP for my school, and since we have a bunch of immature middle schoolers, but a bunch of serious students too, the contributions are really mixed. Nothing to do with 'hiding' edits. I'm not defending the vandalism, just thought I'd let you know it's not a bot. KyuubiSeal (talk) 18:07, 5 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-05T18:07:00.000Z","author":"KyuubiSeal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KyuubiSeal-2012-01-05T18:07:00.000Z-75.144.36.137","replies":[]}}-->

You recently re-added a copyvio tag to the newly created Groutite article. Why? Did you even look at the "duplication detector report"? It returned zero matches. Does the bot need blocking? Or is this an isolated glitch? Please explain on the article talk. Vsmith (talk) 01:33, 8 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-08T01:33:00.000Z","author":"Vsmith","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vsmith-2012-01-08T01:33:00.000Z-Copyvio_nonsense","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-01-08T01:38:00.000Z-Vsmith-2012-01-08T01:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

The answer to your question is here Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#possible hijacking of a retired.2Fvanished user. All of the edits by this editor are questionable so I simply wanted other eyes on their work. If the removal is proper then please feel free to get rid of the tag again (if you already have then I'll offer my thanks.) Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 01:38, 8 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-08T01:38:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-01-08T01:38:00.000Z-Vsmith-2012-01-08T01:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

MD - Thanks for your cordial note. Ditto for all your good work; it's always good to see your username floating about, as it's doubtless attached to contributions constructive and worthwhile. Happy New Year, and all that... Blake Burba (talk) 00:52, 12 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-12T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Blake Burba","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Blake_Burba-2012-01-12T00:52:00.000Z-re:FYI","replies":[]}}-->

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	The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
	Long overdue. Doc talk 09:59, 12 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-12T09:59:00.000Z","author":"Doc9871","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doc9871-2012-01-12T09:59:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":[],"displayName":"Doc"}}-->

Since another dispute has arisen over the country of origin of Hedd Wyn (film), I think it's high time we agreed on a consistent policy on what counts as a British film, and what counts as a Welsh, Scottish, English, or Northern Irish film. As someone who contributed the last time this came up, would you care to comment? Suggestions on where the broader discussion should happen are especially welcome. garik (talk) 03:43, 21 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-21T03:43:00.000Z","author":"Garik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Garik-2012-01-21T03:43:00.000Z-When_are_films_British,_and_when_are_they_Welsh,_Scottish,_English_or_Northern_I","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-01-21T04:58:00.000Z-Garik-2012-01-21T03:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for your message. You will want to post to the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film page. I can tell you that this has come up several times over the years and the discussions have always ended in a kind of stalemate with no one definition or policy being decided upon. Please don't let that deter you though. I don't know whether I am up to commenting on the talk page for the film at the moment. Life off wiki is very stressful at the moment and is taking up most of my energies and the editor you are interacting with requires some stamina to deal with. I offer many apologies for not being of more help to you but there are lots of conscientious editors at the film project who may be able to give you some direction. MarnetteD | Talk 04:58, 21 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-21T04:58:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-01-21T04:58:00.000Z-Garik-2012-01-21T03:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

No prob. And thanks for the thoughts regarding the tickets. Given my bronchitis (which recently flared up a bit, probably triggered by the cold my mom gave me), I'm not sure going to a city with air as rarified as Denver would be the best thing right now, even though I'd love to visit it. Guess I'm just gonna have to wait until I can afford to go see it in NYC, which is nearby. Nightscream (talk) 17:17, 23 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-23T17:17:00.000Z","author":"Nightscream","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nightscream-2012-01-23T17:17:00.000Z-Matt_Stone","replies":[]}}-->

Hello. Regarding the recent revert you made: you may already know about them, but you might find Wikipedia:Template messages/User talk namespace useful. After a revert, these can be placed on the user's talk page to let them know you considered their edit inappropriate, and also direct new users towards the sandbox. They can also be used to give a stern warning to a vandal when they've been previously warned. Thank you. M D Potter. Any comments? 17:08, 27 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-27T17:08:00.000Z","author":"Kiko4564","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kiko4564-2012-01-27T17:08:00.000Z-January_2012","replies":["c-Kiko4564-2012-01-27T17:13:00.000Z-Kiko4564-2012-01-27T17:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"M D Potter."}}-->

You're welcome for this message :) M D Potter. Any comments? 17:13, 27 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-27T17:13:00.000Z","author":"Kiko4564","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kiko4564-2012-01-27T17:13:00.000Z-Kiko4564-2012-01-27T17:08:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"M D Potter."}}-->

Why did you leave a 4im warning message for a user with already plenty? Why not just report them? M D Potter. Any comments? 20:00, 27 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-27T20:00:00.000Z","author":"Kiko4564","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kiko4564-2012-01-27T20:00:00.000Z-87.114.181.155","replies":["c-Kiko4564-2012-02-19T16:28:00.000Z-Kiko4564-2012-01-27T20:00:00.000Z"],"displayName":"M D Potter."}}-->

Don't worry, I wasn't confused. Kiko4564 (talk) 16:28, 19 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-19T16:28:00.000Z","author":"Kiko4564","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kiko4564-2012-02-19T16:28:00.000Z-Kiko4564-2012-01-27T20:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

	The Barnstar of Diplomacy
	You deserve this :))) jmarkfrancia (talk) 16:46, 31 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-31T16:46:00.000Z","author":"JmKissme","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JmKissme-2012-01-31T16:46:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2","replies":[],"displayName":"jmarkfrancia"}}-->

In light of your previous participation in film titling issues, the discussion at Talk:Bande à part (film)#Requested move may be of interest.—Roman Spinner (talk) 23:12, 31 January 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-01-31T23:12:00.000Z","author":"Roman Spinner","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Roman_Spinner-2012-01-31T23:12:00.000Z-Bande_\u00e0_part_vs_Band_of_Outsiders","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2014Roman Spinner"}}-->

I have blocked that IP for 48 hours now. Daniel Case (talk) 02:11, 14 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-14T02:11:00.000Z","author":"Daniel Case","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Daniel_Case-2012-02-14T02:11:00.000Z-Voice_cast_vandal","replies":["c-Daniel_Case-2012-02-17T02:52:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2012-02-14T02:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

One week this time. Daniel Case (talk) 02:52, 17 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-17T02:52:00.000Z","author":"Daniel Case","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Daniel_Case-2012-02-17T02:52:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2012-02-14T02:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Doc9871-2012-02-17T05:32:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2012-02-17T02:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm surprised he keeps reusing this IP after two previous blocks, as he usually just goes to another one. But the selection of targets leaves no question as to whether this is our little twerp or not. Doc talk 05:32, 17 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-17T05:32:00.000Z","author":"Doc9871","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Doc9871-2012-02-17T05:32:00.000Z-Daniel_Case-2012-02-17T02:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-02-17T15:40:00.000Z-Doc9871-2012-02-17T05:32:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Doc"}}-->

I think its odd too. We could make up all sorts of reasons like his/her parents are only allowing work on one computer that can't rotate addresses. Well a week to do other editing will be nice. I hope that you and Daniel have a great weekend. MarnetteD | Talk 15:40, 17 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-17T15:40:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-02-17T15:40:00.000Z-Doc9871-2012-02-17T05:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I was very sad to learn of his death. Last June, he beefed up the information about himself on his user page. I'm glad that he did, as now it serves as a memorial to him. R.I.P. Mr. Thaxter. -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:53, 14 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-14T04:53:00.000Z","author":"Ssilvers","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ssilvers-2012-02-14T04:53:00.000Z-John_Thaxter","replies":["c-Ssilvers-2012-02-14T16:26:00.000Z-Ssilvers-2012-02-14T04:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the message and link.  :-) -- Ssilvers (talk) 16:26, 14 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-14T16:26:00.000Z","author":"Ssilvers","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ssilvers-2012-02-14T16:26:00.000Z-Ssilvers-2012-02-14T04:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ssilvers-2012-03-15T00:02:00.000Z-Ssilvers-2012-02-14T16:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the message. You might want to add information to User talk:John Thaxter so that other people can see it. All the best! -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:02, 15 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-15T00:02:00.000Z","author":"Ssilvers","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ssilvers-2012-03-15T00:02:00.000Z-Ssilvers-2012-02-14T16:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I did see the thanks in the edit summary, and I just wanted to also come thank you for the kick in the pants to go create the stub. I do have some tools at my disposal that make some of the citation-finding easier than it is for the average Netizen, and of course once I started, I had fun piecing it together. Cheers! -- JHunterJ (talk) 22:38, 18 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-18T22:38:00.000Z","author":"JHunterJ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JHunterJ-2012-02-18T22:38:00.000Z-No,_no,_thank_you","replies":[]}}-->

I've notice this as well, but there are no extant blocks that I can see, and none of the edits are outright dispruptive...yet. I'm keeping an eye on their activity, but if you see anything added to an infobox that is not supported by article content please do ping me. --Jezebel'sPonyo^{bons mots} 01:57, 25 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-25T01:57:00.000Z","author":"Ponyo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ponyo-2012-02-25T01:57:00.000Z-A_wee_note","replies":[],"displayName":"Jezebel'sPonyo"}}-->

Please can you put a stop to the continual actor-or-actress nonsense in Elisabeth Moss and any other similar articles? I pointed out some time ago that if you want an unconventional description to appear in the article it must be supported by a reliable reference. Just referring to something on your talk page or in an edit summary is not good enough, you need to provide an inline reference to a reliable source which will stop the continual edits and reversions. The reference needs a quote from the person herself or something similarly specific. Last time I looked I think I remember having found a recent interview referring to her as an "actress", so you need a quote from her saying how she self-identifies. If you can't provide a reliable source, I will look round for one myself which will at least ensures stability of the article even if it not what you would prefer. --Mirokado (talk) 01:31, 26 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-26T01:31:00.000Z","author":"Mirokado","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mirokado-2012-02-26T01:31:00.000Z-Elisabeth_Moss_again","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T03:24:00.000Z-Mirokado-2012-02-26T01:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

It isn't nonsense as can be seen here Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style#Gender-neutral_language and here [1] and here [2] among numerous other places. Also she calls herself an actor on the DVD commentary for Mad Men. Your demand for a ref applies both ways. Please provide a reference that she prefers the paternalistic gender specific term. MarnetteD | Talk 03:24, 26 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-26T03:24:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T03:24:00.000Z-Mirokado-2012-02-26T01:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T03:41:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T03:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

As to the conventionality one only has to watch the Screen Actor Guild Awards to see where that is going. You won't find the words poetess, authoress or commedienne or even WPC anymore yet they were all used within my lifetime. MarnetteD | Talk 03:41, 26 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-26T03:41:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T03:41:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T03:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mirokado-2012-02-26T04:09:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T03:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well I've now requested a reliable source on the article page and explained why it is necessary. The "nonsense" I was referring to is the slow edit wars on these articles resulting from the unsourced content, not the content itself. I'm sort-of happy to believe you myself, which is why I have refrained from editing that word again, but the community as a whole clearly needs the source for article stability. --Mirokado (talk) 04:09, 26 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-26T04:09:00.000Z","author":"Mirokado","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mirokado-2012-02-26T04:09:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T03:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T04:13:00.000Z-Mirokado-2012-02-26T04:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for your reply and my apologies for misinterpreting your words. I have found it interesting that everyone interviewed on the Grham Norton Show is referred to as an actor. Enjoy the rest of your weekend. MarnetteD | Talk 04:13, 26 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-26T04:13:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T04:13:00.000Z-Mirokado-2012-02-26T04:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-02-27T04:24:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T04:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't know whether you will have watched tonight's Academy Awards telecast but the "In memorium" section used the word actor for both the men and women as can be seen here [3], including Elizabeth Taylor, who passed away last year. For me that pretty much seals it use as a conventional description. This comes on top of at least three years of all of the documentaries on "The Biography Channel" and "tru TV" as well as feature length documentaries like The Celluloid Closet doing the same thing. I am not sure how many more sources are needed. Let me state that I understand your explanation on the talk page but I would like to point out that we have the same kind of back and forth editing with BC/AD and BCE/CE on various articles and sourcing is not always required to explain why they are used. Reverting of edits happens there and will continue to happen elsewhere. I am 90% certain that it is the 2nd season DVDs where Ms Moss self identifies as an actor but life off wiki is so busy that I don't know when I will be able to replay those to find the specific episode. Cheers and have a good week. MarnetteD | Talk 04:24, 27 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-27T04:24:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-02-27T04:24:00.000Z-MarnetteD-2012-02-26T04:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for those comments. Unfortunately the Oscar awards are overnight for me. I will trust you, while hoping that you will provide references when you do have them to hand. I will also look, as a background activity. Please continue to be patient as you have been recently if you do have to revert from time to time, and I suggest you least create a talk page section explaining the content on affected pages. Saying "see talk" is probably better than "see previous edit summary" and someone else may be able to contribute a suitable reference. I hope to add a comment to the article talk section "soon" but I'm a bit busy at present. --Mirokado (talk) 00:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-29T00:07:00.000Z","author":"Mirokado","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mirokado-2012-02-29T00:07:00.000Z-Elisabeth_Moss_again","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry to bother you again, I just wanted to ask you which pic I should use for an article. Both are free images licensed as cc-by-sa.

Pic 1 Pic 2

The first one has them more direct at the camera but the colors are pretty saturated. The second one has them at a bit of an odd angle but the colors are clearer.--CyberGhostface (talk) 04:39, 28 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-28T04:39:00.000Z","author":"CyberGhostface","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T04:39:00.000Z-Which_picture_do_you_think_looks_better?","replies":["c-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T06:38:00.000Z-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T04:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's for the article Julien Maury and Alexandre Bustillo. I've already uploaded the first one for the article. I just uploaded the second one at File:Julien_Maury_and_Alexandre_Bustillo_2.png; I might reedit it again for framing purposes but the basic gist will be the same, cropping it so the two take up most of the picture.

And thanks, I've added 'Life on Mars' on my to-watch list. As for Game of Thrones, the books are definitely worth checking out if you like the show. :) --CyberGhostface (talk) 06:38, 28 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-28T06:38:00.000Z","author":"CyberGhostface","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T06:38:00.000Z-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T04:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T17:34:00.000Z-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T06:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Okay, thanks again for your help. :) --CyberGhostface (talk) 17:34, 28 February 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-02-28T17:34:00.000Z","author":"CyberGhostface","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T17:34:00.000Z-CyberGhostface-2012-02-28T06:38:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

		The Editor's Barnstar
		Thank you for all your great work over the years. Span (talk) 00:37, 1 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-01T00:37:00.000Z","author":"Spanglej","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Spanglej-2012-03-01T00:37:00.000Z-Thank_you","replies":[],"displayName":"Span"}}-->

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Thanks, but your edit left the refactored version of my warning. No problem, been there bought the oversized sweatshirt. Dougweller (talk) 21:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-10T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Dougweller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dougweller-2012-03-10T21:26:00.000Z-Ajax42","replies":[]}}-->

Please see Talk:List of longest films by running time#Not liking minutes for a response. Thankyou for your interest. Lostinlodos (talk) 03:03, 14 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T03:03:00.000Z","author":"Lostinlodos","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lostinlodos-2012-03-14T03:03:00.000Z-Talk:List_of_longest_films_by_running_time#Not_liking_minutes","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-03-14T03:22:00.000Z-Lostinlodos-2012-03-14T03:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

I have been editing here for just short of seven years. It only takes a couple clicks to find that out. I would suggest that you investigate things a little further before labeling an editor as a vandal. Having said that I am far from perfect and have made/will make mistakes but so will you. As I said on the page linked to I appreciate the work that you will be putting in on the article in the future. MarnetteD | Talk 03:22, 14 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T03:22:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-03-14T03:22:00.000Z-Lostinlodos-2012-03-14T03:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello - and thanks for your message. Guitry certainly packed a lot of ideas into a short and brisk film. And it's fun to try to track down the numerous borrowings that Welles included in Citizen Kane after his crash-course in film technique (not to mention things like the out-takes from King Kong). One can see why Guitry's multi-talented ego might have appealed to Welles! Lampernist (talk) 14:57, 14 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Lampernist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lampernist-2012-03-14T14:57:00.000Z-Confessions_of_a_Cheat","replies":[]}}-->

Yes, I'm planning to see it. I saw it in the early 1980s at San Francisco's Castro theatre. This was with a dubbed music track after the tour with the live orchestra had finished. Also this print "letterboxed" the final hour of the film, so the middle-screen was now smaller than it had been during the first 3- hours of the film. It was Carmine Coppola's score (father of Francis Coppola- though I suspect you know that). The new showing has an entirely new score. (I read somewhere Francis Coppola tried to stop the new score on grounds of music rights and lost!). As my first round of viewing was without orchestra I only paid $7.50 to see it. Lowest tix for this are $40+, but it will be with the proper three screens, so pic will actually expand in final hour rather than shrink.

Late last year, I saw the shorter version of "Fellowship of the Ring" with a live orchestra (they got a special print with the music-track removed) and in summer 2010, the San Francisco Symphony showed "Psycho" under the same circumstances. There was just a bit too much of the light on the orchestra's scores bleeding onto the screen, but on the whole a hoot. The SF Symphony almost gave me a huge discount as the ticket master thought I might be the British composer of the same name who taught music at Stanford for about 3 years in the mid-2000s and had an arrangement for discounts with the symphony. He had already returned to England when the confusion occurred. I decided to be honest.--WickerGuy (talk) 20:25, 14 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:25:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-03-14T20:25:00.000Z-Napoleon","replies":["c-WickerGuy-2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-03-14T20:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

The only other movie I saw with a dinner break was a Cleveland, OH showing of the 6-hour version of Bertolucci's "1900" (widely released in America in the 4-hour version). Part I went from 3-6 PM and part II was from 7:30-10:30. The theatre did not serve dinner- we were on our own re local cuisine, but many theatre patrons went to the same restaurants and chatted. Among many interesting elements of the movie is the mixed Italian & American cast. Donald Sutherland, Burt Lancaster (in one of his best roles) and Robert DeNiro are all in it along with many leading Italian actors. The 3+ hour Fellowship had a long intermission, but no dinner break.

I wasn't aware there had never been a DVD release. Why not just have two soundtracks, one with the CCop score and one with CDav?? They did that with "Alien" (although the track with the rejected soundtrack lacks any dialogue or sound effects- the alternate track is ONLY the unused music), and one of the (three) alternate tracks on Cocteau's "Beauty and the Beast" (Criterion edition) is Phillip Glass' opera which is supposed to be performed live while the Cocteau movie projects in the background.

The showing of Napoleon here is at the Paramount Theatre which is normally for live events and doesn't generally function as a movie theatre. I've seen two concerts of Celtic music, and one of Gospel there. One of the former was "Celtic Woman".--WickerGuy (talk) 20:50, 14 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-03-14T20:50:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-03-14T20:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I in fact saw the 6-hour abridgment (reduced from eight) of Nickolas Nickleby in one day in 2006(??) with a dinner break. Part I (if I recall) ran from 2 to 5 and Part II ran from 7(??) to 10. It was staged by the California Shakespeare Festival which is in a medium-sized outdoor amphitheatre nestled in some beautiful hills. Over two months they ran several alternating evenings of Parts I and II but only on the closing weekend did they do both in the same day. I also purchased the script of the longer version and even read it.

The highlight for me is the closing of Part I (out of 2 in this case) play-within-a-play of good actors portraying really bad actors acting out the closing scenes of a happy-ending rewrite of Romeo and Juliet. This section runs between 20 to 30 minutes, and is gut-busting hilarious!!

(Cal Shakes' artistic director since 2001 has been Jonathan Moscone, the son of former SF mayor George Moscone who was assassinated at the same time as Harvey Milk. I've had the pleasure of meeting JM- he's a charming guy.)--WickerGuy (talk) 21:48, 14 March 2012 (UTC) --WickerGuy (talk) 21:48, 14 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-14T21:48:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-03-14T21:48:00.000Z-Napoleon","replies":[]}}-->

I believe that if there are two or more {{italictitle}} in a page, even when one's in a template (such as an infobox), they might conflict with unexpected results. In The Five Doctors we have {{Infobox Doctor Who episode}} which itself uses {{Infobox}}. I think that what's happening is that in the absence of instructions to the contrary, {{Infobox}} forces the page title to be non-italic. It has a parameter |italic title= which isn't being set by {{Infobox Doctor Who episode}}. --Redrose64 (talk) 01:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-18T01:09:00.000Z","author":"Redrose64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Redrose64-2012-03-18T01:09:00.000Z-The_Five_Doctors_-_italic_title","replies":[]}}-->

Oh, boy. I'm just getting into this one, and he hops all over the Roadrunner network: but every single one of them is in Hawaii. This character is obsessed with someone named "Ross M. Brown", and inserts them in a few choice articles, namely Timothy Leary, The Doors, Picts, and a handful of others. But as I dig into each article, I find older and older IPs, and he just keeps changing them. Here are some that I've found so far:

204.210.124.93

24.165.40.47

24.165.43.203

66.8.247.155

67.49.172.67

70.95.183.165

98.150.169.155

There are more, and so far I'm in early December of last year. What possesses these people? Anyway, if you see the name "Ross M. Brown" anywhere on WP, it's probably this strange vandal that added it. Cheers :> Doc talk 04:59, 20 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T04:59:00.000Z","author":"Doc9871","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doc9871-2012-03-20T04:59:00.000Z-Another_Pest","replies":["c-Doc9871-2012-03-20T05:40:00.000Z-Doc9871-2012-03-20T04:59:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Doc"}}-->

Note - I haven't found all of the IPs yet, but they've been at it since at least October 16, 2011 with a named account they abandoned for IPs: Rossmbrown (talk · contribs). Funny coincidence, no? So far I've got 14 IPs, the named account, and 17 articles hit. I searched article space for "Ross M. Brown" and zapped it: everywhere it was, it was this clown that added it. Cheers :> Doc talk 05:40, 20 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-20T05:40:00.000Z","author":"Doc9871","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Doc9871-2012-03-20T05:40:00.000Z-Doc9871-2012-03-20T04:59:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Doc"}}-->

The stuff i write is true so leave it be. I did source it but it was still removed. If it says Info from cetacean cousins ect, it means its true. THE STUFF I WRITE IS TRUE. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.134.54.239 (talk) 22:22, 21 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T22:22:00.000Z","author":"72.134.54.239","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-72.134.54.239-2012-03-21T22:22:00.000Z-its_not_disrupting","replies":[]}}-->

I sourced the info it clearly said info from cetacean cousins and orcahome.de so just leave it be — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.134.54.239 (talk) 22:25, 21 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T22:25:00.000Z","author":"72.134.54.239","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-72.134.54.239-2012-03-21T22:25:00.000Z-its_not_disrupting","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-03-21T22:42:00.000Z-72.134.54.239-2012-03-21T22:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

a)You are not providing proper references when you are making those entries - see WP:REF. b) You will need to read WP:NOTABILITY Wikipedia is not a blog these pregnancies aren;t really notable. c) Next read WP:CONSENSUS when several editors have removed your entries that means there are problems that need to be addressed and may not be able to overcome. d) Lastly see WP:3RR your only hope is to go to the talk page and try and make a case for your entries being added to the page. MarnetteD | Talk 22:42, 21 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T22:42:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-03-21T22:42:00.000Z-72.134.54.239-2012-03-21T22:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Here is the writing that was deleted. Under Kasatka : She is pregnant again and due in January 2013 - orcahome.de and under Takara : she is pregnant via artificial insemination-orcahome.de So you can clearly see that the info was sourced. For proof go on captive orcas statistic AKA orcahome.de. Search orcas in captivity and next to Kasatkas name, it says she is truely pregnant. The same with takara — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.134.54.239 (talk) 22:58, 21 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T22:58:00.000Z","author":"72.134.54.239","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-72.134.54.239-2012-03-21T22:58:00.000Z-just_leave_it","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-03-21T23:00:00.000Z-72.134.54.239-2012-03-21T22:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

You are using a blog which does not meet wikipedias requirements as a reliable source. MarnetteD | Talk 23:00, 21 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-21T23:00:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-03-21T23:00:00.000Z-72.134.54.239-2012-03-21T22:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I think on your edit-sum, you should have added "Everyone knows it's Wendy". :) --WickerGuy (talk) 18:58, 24 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-24T18:58:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-03-24T18:58:00.000Z-Edit_sum_on_The_Shining","replies":["c-WickerGuy-2012-03-25T14:29:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-03-24T18:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Nappy is actually playing this weekend and next. I plan to see the final performance on April 1st. Whole shebang runs 8 hours including a dinner break, two intermissions, & 5 &1/2 hours of film running 1:30 to 9:30.--WickerGuy (talk) 14:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-25T14:29:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-03-25T14:29:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-03-24T18:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I of course remember Ian Holm as Napoleon in Time Bandits with enormous fondness. BUt apparently he had played him on TV before that.--WickerGuy (talk) 15:50, 28 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-28T15:50:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-03-28T15:50:00.000Z-Nappy","replies":[]}}-->

More on Nappy

2nite at the Pacific Film Archive in Berkeley (roughly 4 to 5 miles from where Nappy is showing in Oakland), restorer Kevin Brownlow is giving a talk about the restoral process. This review in Monday's SF Chronicle will make you green with envy!!

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2012/03/26/DDLD1NPQTM.DTL

My other fave Napoleon comedy remains Woody Allen's Love and Death (just as N is mainly in the first half-hour of Bandits, he's mainly in the final half-hour of L&D. Might make a good double-bill with Bandits first.)--WickerGuy (talk) 16:49, 30 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-30T16:49:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-03-30T16:49:00.000Z-Nappy","replies":["c-WickerGuy-2012-03-30T17:48:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-03-30T16:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm fairly aware of film composers but hadn't tracked CD. And I saw World at War when it was out. I remmber Olivier's narration, but hadn't noted the music. (My fave film composers are Bernard Herrmann, and John Barry.) I've seen several movies with Tolkan but hadn't noted the continuity since you mentioned it.--WickerGuy (talk) 17:48, 30 March 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-03-30T17:48:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-03-30T17:48:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-03-30T16:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-WickerGuy-2012-04-02T00:19:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-03-30T17:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

LOL

I managed to catch the cartoon during the dinner break (which is now) for Napoleon as there is a FedEx/Kinko's 6 blocks away. Two 20-minute intermissions and an 1 hr 55 minute dinner break. I'll send you a full report by e-mail, but BTW had to miss Brownlow's Friday talk, and learned some new things about the scoring conflict.--WickerGuy (talk) 00:19, 2 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-02T00:19:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-04-02T00:19:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-03-30T17:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Seeing movies with a full orchestra is almost getting to be an annual tradition with me 2010- SF Symphony plays score to Pycho with special print with music removed 2011- Same with Fellowship of the Ring (shorter version which is very poorly edited IMO) 2012-Napoleon

There is also a homage to the chase scene in Bullitt in the fifth and final Dirty Harry movie entitled The Dead Pool which is hilarious!! One of the two cars (the chasee) is a tiny remote control mechanical car with a bomb in it. Largely the same SF locations and turns!! Sf can't really expand much. It's surrounded on three sides by water and to the south by Daly City, Brisbane and San Bruno Mountain!! The biggest change is when the 2-story freeway on Embarcadero was damaged in the '89 earthquake it was thankfully torn down. It was a slight eyesore in an otherwise beautiful city. If you see Vertigo, the main thing you notice is the absence of the Transamerica Pyramid (check out the pic), while the rest of SF looks fairly similar.

When I saw Vertigo in a downtown SF theatre in 1980, Jimmy Stewart's car/cab turns a corner where construction is going on, and construction was also going on that same corner in 1980. Someone in the audience yelled out "They've been working on that a long time" and folks laughed. The other laugh line was

SCOTTIE Midge, who do you know that's an authority an San Francisco history?

MIDGE Now, that's the kind of greeting a girl likes. None of this "hello you look wonderful" stuff. Just a good straight "who do you know" --

SCOTTIE (breaking in) Well, who? Come on, you know everybody.

MIDGE Professor Saunders, over in Berkeley.

SCOTTIE Not that kind of history. The small stuff! About people you never heard of!

MIDGE Oh! You mean Gay Old Bohemian Days of Gay Old San Francisco!...

Cheers.--WickerGuy (talk) 20:54, 2 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-02T20:54:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-04-02T20:54:00.000Z-E-mail_Redux","replies":["c-WickerGuy-2012-04-04T02:18:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-04-02T20:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Harris was just getting started but had already produced two or three hit Broadway shows when Napoleon was released, so it's possible. But I think Olivier was going for the mannerisms and speech inflections of Harris, not his appearance. Olivier looks like an extra-sinister/macabre version of R3, but doesn't really look like Jed Harris whom you can see here [4] and 6 pics here [5]. John Barrymore's theatre director character in Twentieth Century is more directly based on Harris. Several pics here after you scroll down 1 to 2 pages.--WickerGuy (talk) 02:18, 4 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-04T02:18:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-04-04T02:18:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-04-02T20:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-WickerGuy-2012-04-04T02:56:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-04-04T02:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

My theatre indulgence of last year, 2011, was seeing Kevin Spacey (directed by Sam Mendes) as R3- it was in Sf for only 10 days. Ian McKellan remains my favorite of the R3s. I have never seen Neil Simon's The Goodbye Girl in which the lead character is an actor playing R3 and whose director wants him to be played as gay (against the actor's better judgment). I've seen R3 live a few times. The fellow who played R3 at Carmel's PacRep in 2004 looked like Charles Laughton in Hunchback of Notre Dame. There's a local low-budget company here called "Woman's Will" Women's Will which does Shakespeare and other stuff with an all-female cast (there are similar companies in New York, LA, and Chicago). They were a tad better under their previous artistic director (till 2008), who pushed the gender-bender envelope a bit more. Their 2005 R3 (play) had a very bulldyke R3 (character) as played by local stage star Emily Jordan who has much fuller and feminine hair in this shot [6] than as R3 in which her hair was in short spikes more resembling this shot of DiCaprio [7], but you can see her capacity for tiger-like ferocity in this shot of her from Cymbeline [8] I'm usually fine with ethnic-blind casting, but in an earlier CalShakes production I somehow found the obvious Jewishness of their R3 slightly distracting. Of course, my first exposure to the play was Olivier's film.--WickerGuy (talk) 02:56, 4 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-04T02:56:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-04-04T02:56:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-04-04T02:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-WickerGuy-2012-04-05T23:00:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-04-04T02:56:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sadly, I haven't watched Black Adder, although I adored Rowan Atkinson as Doctor Who in Curse of the Fatal Death. Olivier not only re-arranged R3, but kept some of the alterations from Codley Cibber's version which was far more widely performed in the 19th century than WS's original. I think "Richard's himself again" is the most famous line of Shakespeare that Shakespeare didn't write!!! I once followed Olivier's Lady Anne scene with text in hand, and it's a clever reworking. He has the corpse be her husband rather than her father. The killer of the Princes in the Tower is Patrick Troughton aka the Second Doctor!! Troughton is also the Player King in Olivier's Hamlet with beard and no dialogue. Christopher Lee is an extra as a soldier and Peter Cushing is Osric!! It's literally the first movie Lee and Cushing did together.

This reminds me of another cool night in the theatre. Every summer Shakespeare Santa Cruz [9] has a "fringe" show which is entirely directed by undergraduate interns. In 2005, they did Nathan Tate's 17th century "happy ending" of King Lear and staged it entirely as high slapstick with a couple of modern rock and roll songs. The regular company was doing the real lear that same season. It was an intensely hilarious night in the theatre. (Usually the fringe show is something written as a comedy including 2007's "Mock Tempest"- a parody fo the Tempest also from the 17th century. My Kinko's card is just about to run out of time.--WickerGuy (talk) 23:00, 5 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-05T23:00:00.000Z","author":"WickerGuy","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-WickerGuy-2012-04-05T23:00:00.000Z-WickerGuy-2012-04-04T02:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

can you just source it for me ? i dont know how to do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.134.54.239 (talk) 02:39, 3 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-03T02:39:00.000Z","author":"72.134.54.239","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-72.134.54.239-2012-04-03T02:39:00.000Z-how_do_you_source_info_?","replies":["c-MarnetteD-2012-04-03T03:56:00.000Z-72.134.54.239-2012-04-03T02:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

I can only suggest that you start here Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners. There is also a talk page where you can post questions. Be aware that wikipedia also has WP:NOTABILITY guidelines and some of the info that you continue to put into articles - in spite of removal by numerous editors - may not meet those guidelines. MarnetteD | Talk 03:56, 3 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-03T03:56:00.000Z","author":"MarnetteD","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MarnetteD-2012-04-03T03:56:00.000Z-72.134.54.239-2012-04-03T02:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello!

Thank you for your good advice, and thank you very much for your charming message this evening.

With kind regards, Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 22:11, 3 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-03T22:11:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-04-03T22:11:00.000Z-The_Godfather","replies":["c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-04-05T18:00:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-04-03T22:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Postscript: Just to let you know, Wrath X is still busy editing The Godfather – after a brief respite – and is catching you up fast. You have 69 recorded and he has 170 (not counting 51 on The Godfather II) but he/she is leaving Edit Summaries every time. Cheers! Gareth Griffith-Jones (talk) 18:00, 5 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-05T18:00:00.000Z","author":"Gareth Griffith-Jones","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-04-05T18:00:00.000Z-Gareth_Griffith-Jones-2012-04-03T22:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I was not aware of that discussion, so I thank you for the link. The AFI is certainly notable, and I think it follow that their film lists are notable. When I have seen them removed from film articles, I have reverted, and gave my reasons in my edit summary. An objecting editor would have to go a long way to convince me the lists, even of nominations, are not notable. The number of films so honoured is very small. Cheers to you! ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 23:32, 3 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-03T23:32:00.000Z","author":"RepublicanJacobite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RepublicanJacobite-2012-04-03T23:32:00.000Z-AFI","replies":[]}}-->

If you have a chance watch this on youtube and see if my plot summary is decent.♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:14, 5 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-05T19:14:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2012-04-05T19:14:00.000Z-Death's_Door","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks. Also started The Town of No Return. Strange episode, you can view on youtube. I think I've got the plot right but you may wish to correct. Will be working on more this week. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:09, 8 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-08T19:09:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2012-04-08T19:09:00.000Z-Death's_Door","replies":[]}}-->

I'm finding snippets in google books! Feel free to add what you have!♦ Dr. Blofeld

Do you have the full box set of all 6 series? What would be very helpful is if you could view the episodes we have articles for of series 1 and 2 and write full plots for them. I can only access Series 3-6 on youtube.♦ Dr. Blofeld 11:35, 15 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-15T11:35:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2012-04-15T11:35:00.000Z-Death's_Door","replies":[]}}-->

Mmm the list is up for AFD.♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:57, 16 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-16T21:57:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2012-04-16T21:57:00.000Z-Death's_Door","replies":[]}}-->

Would you mind taking a look at the recent edits on this article and then giving your opinion at the discussion I started on Film Project talk page? As I said there, I have withdrawn from the dispute to keep it from spiralling out of control, but another editor really needs to take a look. I would appreciate it. Thanks. ---RepublicanJacobite_TheFortyFive 19:55, 14 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-14T19:55:00.000Z","author":"RepublicanJacobite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RepublicanJacobite-2012-04-14T19:55:00.000Z-The_Friends_of_Eddie_Coyle","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, Marnette. Regarding your edit, where in WP:NOTABLE does it indicate children should not be mentioned in the Infobox, even without being named? Nightscream (talk) 01:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-16T01:00:00.000Z","author":"Nightscream","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nightscream-2012-04-16T01:00:00.000Z-Matt_Stone_2","replies":["c-Nightscream-2012-04-16T04:55:00.000Z-Nightscream-2012-04-16T01:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

It really doesn't look like much of a consensus to me; Why is that field in the Infobox, then? Nightscream (talk) 04:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-16T04:55:00.000Z","author":"Nightscream","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Nightscream-2012-04-16T04:55:00.000Z-Nightscream-2012-04-16T01:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nightscream-2012-04-16T06:36:00.000Z-Nightscream-2012-04-16T04:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

I perceived no curtness, so no worries. :-) Nightscream (talk) 06:36, 16 April 2012 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-04-16T06:36:00.000Z","author":"Nightscream","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nightscream-2012-04-16T06:36:00.000Z-Nightscream-2012-04-16T04:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->