User talk:Laplorfill/Archives/2021/May


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Re page tagged for deletion

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The empty page you tagged for deletion, Victorian Railways X class (1886), has now been expanded into a full article. --Trainsofvictoria (talk) 15:54, 28 April 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-28T15:54:00.000Z","author":"Trainsofvictoria","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trainsofvictoria-2021-04-28T15:54:00.000Z-Re_page_tagged_for_deletion","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-02T05:34:00.000Z-Trainsofvictoria-2021-04-28T15:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Trainsofvictoria: Thank you, great work. Laplorfill (talk) 05:34, 2 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-02T05:34:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-02T05:34:00.000Z-Trainsofvictoria-2021-04-28T15:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Thank you

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Hi Laplorfill, thank you very much! Cheers, Hockeycatcat (talk) 05:31, 2 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-02T05:31:00.000Z","author":"Hockeycatcat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hockeycatcat-2021-05-02T05:31:00.000Z-Thank_you","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-02T05:35:00.000Z-Hockeycatcat-2021-05-02T05:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Hockeycatcat: My pleasure. Thanks for the good work, Laplorfill (talk) 05:35, 2 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-02T05:35:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-02T05:35:00.000Z-Hockeycatcat-2021-05-02T05:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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A barnstar for you!

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The Teamwork Barnstar
Thank you for efforts in dealing with the rampaging vandal. Much appreciated. :) Ashleyyoursmile! 07:02, 6 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-06T07:02:00.000Z","author":"Ashleyyoursmile","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ashleyyoursmile-2021-05-06T07:02:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":[],"displayName":"Ashley"}}-->
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Railway Series Characters

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You have been systematically undoing silly edits on this page made by an IP user. I've just reverted the same sorry list by a different IP user. (I don't have Rollback so I might leave it for you in future - it's bloody tedious doing by hand.) You put a warning on the last IP user's Talk Page. Perhaps this user needs a warning. I have never warned anyone so I'll leave this to your judgement. OrewaTel (talk) 21:01, 6 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-06T21:01:00.000Z","author":"OrewaTel","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-OrewaTel-2021-05-06T21:01:00.000Z-Railway_Series_Characters","replies":[]}}-->

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Moriscos and genetics

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I included my reasons for deleting those passages. All of the genetic studies provided are outdated and have been mostly debunk. They are not modern genetic studies, one is from 2008 for example genetic studies have developed HUGELY in the last decade alone. We now know that the Moors didn't contribute significant genetic input, researchers were using haplogroups that came to Spain and the rest of Europe during the Neolithic era. These haplogroups were found in much higher levels within areas not occupied by the Moors like Asturias, then anywhere else in Spain and they were also found in Southern France. There has been gene flow from North Africa to all of Europe and vice-versa through out history, and the North African admixture almost entirely predates the Moors. Also the entire article keeps saying the admixture is significant when that is completely inaccurate it is very minute, the Moors were almost entirely native converts, when the original Berber/Arab Moors invaded they were a very small number of invaders/settlers that never made up more then 5% of the entire Iberian population. And update with recent genetic studies is needed! — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎24.212.168.59 (talk • contribs)

@24.212.168.59: the problem is all you've done is given us your unsourced personal opinion. If you want to make a substantial change to an article, especially one that replaces properly sourced material, you need to provide multiple reliable sources that show that your claims are valid. I strongly suggest you propose changes on the article's talk page and cite the sources that support your claims. Laplorfill (talk) 03:34, 7 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-07T03:34:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-07T03:34:00.000Z-Moriscos_and_genetics","replies":[]}}-->
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Pig fancier

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The guy disrupting Babe and Pig Racing seems to have worked out that he can evade the threat of blocks and continue editing in the same way by shifting computer. I've just asked Gilliam if he'd consider blocking the whole range (as he has done in the past) to show that warnings have teeth too. Sweetpool50 (talk) 10:46, 8 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-08T10:46:00.000Z","author":"Sweetpool50","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sweetpool50-2021-05-08T10:46:00.000Z-Pig_fancier","replies":[]}}-->

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 Question:

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Can I change on a draft the declner's name if I see that this draft can't be published?--EnLarissais (talk) 14:21, 8 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-08T14:21:00.000Z","author":"EnLarissais","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EnLarissais-2021-05-08T14:21:00.000Z-Question:","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-08T14:34:00.000Z-EnLarissais-2021-05-08T14:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

@EnLarissais: which draft article do you want to change? Laplorfill (talk) 14:34, 8 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-08T14:34:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-08T14:34:00.000Z-EnLarissais-2021-05-08T14:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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List of Thomas and Friends episodes#Specials

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You said that if you are wrong about my latest edit, I writing that you are wrong, beacause I have seen these episodes and know about them.--EnLarissais (talk) 14:54, 8 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-08T14:54:00.000Z","author":"EnLarissais","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EnLarissais-2021-05-08T14:54:00.000Z-List_of_Thomas_and_Friends_episodes#Specials","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-08T14:57:00.000Z-EnLarissais-2021-05-08T14:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

@EnLarissais: You have provided no sources for that edit, so it cannot be verified by readers. "I have viewed them" is not a reliable source. So it cannot be added to an article. Laplorfill (talk) 14:57, 8 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-08T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-08T14:57:00.000Z-EnLarissais-2021-05-08T14:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Abatemarco

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Abatemarco (river) does not exist. 2601:640:4000:3170:C0B5:94C5:ACF9:63EB (talk) 05:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-10T05:45:00.000Z","author":"2601:640:4000:3170:C0B5:94C5:ACF9:63EB","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2601:640:4000:3170:C0B5:94C5:ACF9:63EB-2021-05-10T05:45:00.000Z-Abatemarco","replies":[]}}-->

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Accidental block

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My apologies for this accidental block. What happened was that I was going to block the IP and either misclicked or clicked on the user who made the last edit at Young Living (and in the meanwhily you have reverted and became the last one). I should have been more careful and I apologize. As soon as I noticed that I blocked the user I did not intend to block, I have removed the block, and went on to block the IP and eventually to protect the page. Sorry for this.--Ymblanter (talk) 07:23, 13 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-13T07:23:00.000Z","author":"Ymblanter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ymblanter-2021-05-13T07:23:00.000Z-Accidental_block","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-13T13:50:00.000Z-Ymblanter-2021-05-13T07:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Ymblanter: no worries. Thanks for blocking the IP and protecting the page. Laplorfill (talk) 13:50, 13 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-13T13:50:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-13T13:50:00.000Z-Ymblanter-2021-05-13T07:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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WOW

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Thank you for reverting that vandalism so quickly lol TigerScientist Chat > contribs 16:19, 14 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-14T16:19:00.000Z","author":"TigerScientist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TigerScientist-2021-05-14T16:19:00.000Z-WOW","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-14T16:24:00.000Z-TigerScientist-2021-05-14T16:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

@TigerScientist: you are very welcome, Laplorfill (talk) 16:24, 14 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-14T16:24:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-14T16:24:00.000Z-TigerScientist-2021-05-14T16:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Question.

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Why does the newer KTVA logo keep getting deleted? It is still there logo until September, 3rd 2021. Why does KTVA also not have a founder listed? By what I am reading from this Wikipedia article isn’t Augie Hiebert the founder of KTVA? If you people are going to delete the newer logo then put it in the history section. If you are going to remove KTVA’s logo then I will just keep adding it until you decide to utilize it. So figure out how to utilize the Newer KTVA logo. I don’t care if you fix the wording at the bottom but stop deleting the newer logo for KTVA. The location for KTVA and Denali media holdings is listed on Google maps still which is where I got the location from. Denali media holdings had KTVA in their building but unfortunately When you type KTVA in it shows you there smaller old building that they used until they renovated dozens of office space to prep the location that is listed for their news room. KTVANEWS (talk) 06:27, 23 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-23T06:27:00.000Z","author":"KTVANEWS","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KTVANEWS-2021-05-23T06:27:00.000Z-Question.","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-23T06:30:00.000Z-KTVANEWS-2021-05-23T06:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

{{ping|KTVANEWS} the problem with the logo has been explained to you - it violates our copyright policies - see Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria. The fact that you have declared that you are prepared to disrupt Wikipedia until you get your way is not acceptable and will lead to you being blocked. Laplorfill (talk) 06:30, 23 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-23T06:30:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-23T06:30:00.000Z-KTVANEWS-2021-05-23T06:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Oromia region

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I understand the your recommendation, I'm not forcefully demanding move the page to new one. I've raised at help desk and discussed at its talk page and cite sources. Some of editors in the earlier discussion agreed that the title name should be changed to "Oromia (region)", using parenthesis. I also agreed with because region is splitted by parenthesis. This shows that Oromia is a particular region name. This is not in response to hostile objection to the proposer, I'm talking about the subject of the article. You can discuss this issue in its talk page. The Supermind (talk) 16:05, 25 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-25T16:05:00.000Z","author":"The Supermind","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Supermind-2021-05-25T16:05:00.000Z-Oromia_region","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-25T16:10:00.000Z-The_Supermind-2021-05-25T16:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

@The Supermind: moving the page yourself after the discussion was closed is forcefully demanding that your view prevail over the consensus that had been reached on the talk page. You are insisting that only the opinions of those who agree with you count. Most editors in the discussion disagree with your opinion on the matter and consensus has been properly reached. The discussion has already taken place on the article talk page and the matter is resolved. You really need to drop this, or you are likely to find yourself blocked from editing to prevent further disruption. Laplorfill (talk) 16:10, 25 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-25T16:10:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-25T16:10:00.000Z-The_Supermind-2021-05-25T16:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Cr1TiKaL

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Instead of reporting me and taking sides how about you look into what the edit is about and whether I'm right or wrong. The other editor is clearly in the wrong but he keeps reverting ignoring the facts i state. I only want the article to be correct and not filled with false information. Bobby690 (talk) 15:50, 26 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-26T15:50:00.000Z","author":"Bobby690","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bobby690-2021-05-26T15:50:00.000Z-Cr1TiKaL","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T15:54:00.000Z-Bobby690-2021-05-26T15:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Bobby690: I am not taking sides. I'm pointing out that you resumed an edit war as soon as you returned from a block for edit warring. The other editor is not clearly wrong. This is debatable question, not a clear right-or-wrong on either side. The correct place to have that debate is the article talk page. Discuss the matter there and seek the advice of other editors. Continuing to edit war on the article itself is clearly disruptive. Laplorfill (talk) 15:54, 26 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-26T15:54:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T15:54:00.000Z-Bobby690-2021-05-26T15:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

So you're saying that if one person edits correct information and the other person edits false information it's still debatable? Also the edit war was started by the other editor when he reverted my edit on the article. Bobby690 (talk) 15:59, 26 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-26T15:59:00.000Z","author":"Bobby690","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bobby690-2021-05-26T15:59:00.000Z-Cr1TiKaL","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T16:04:00.000Z-Bobby690-2021-05-26T15:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Bobby690: I'm saying that your characterization of your edits as "clearly correct" and all the other editors who have reverted it as "clearly adding false information" is wrong. There is a case that penguinz0 is the name of his channel, not an alias. There is a case the other way. That is what should be resolved on the talk page, and a consensus reached before you edit the article further. Who started the edit war is irrelevant. You (or anyone else) continuing it before a consensus is reached is very disruptive and will likely lead to you being blocked from editing if you continue. Laplorfill (talk) 16:04, 26 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-26T16:04:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T16:04:00.000Z-Bobby690-2021-05-26T15:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T16:05:00.000Z-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T16:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
Or, as it turns out, you have already been blocked. Thanks to User:Bbb23! Laplorfill (talk) 16:05, 26 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-26T16:05:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T16:05:00.000Z-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T16:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Plot summaries

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Hi, please note that plot summaries are not supposed to be referenced in most cases and should be original research based on viewing the primary source as per WP:MOSTV, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 01:24, 26 May 2021 (UTC) This refers to RadhaKrishn where I assume the tags are related to the plot section as the rest of the article is sourced, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 01:28, 26 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-26T01:24:00.000Z","author":"Atlantic306","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Atlantic306-2021-05-26T01:24:00.000Z-Plot_summaries","replies":["c-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T02:23:00.000Z-Atlantic306-2021-05-26T01:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Atlantic306: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Television is a guideline and does not override policies like WP:NOR and WP:V. Even the plot guideline applies only to plots, not cast lists. There are no sources in the cast list and it is irredemable original research, as you can tell by the constant edit warring over that section. The tone of the article is highly inappropriate. Please restore the tags. Thanks, Laplorfill (talk) 02:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-26T02:23:00.000Z","author":"Laplorfill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T02:23:00.000Z-Atlantic306-2021-05-26T01:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Atlantic306-2021-05-27T23:14:00.000Z-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T02:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
MOS:TV incorporates WP:NOR and WP:V in relation to television productions. Regarding cast lists they give their ideal example as The Killing (American TV series) which has no references. If there is a dispute then references are needed, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:14, 27 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-27T23:14:00.000Z","author":"Atlantic306","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Atlantic306-2021-05-27T23:14:00.000Z-Laplorfill-2021-05-26T02:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Atlantic306-2021-05-29T23:21:00.000Z-Atlantic306-2021-05-27T23:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
In any case I've started cleaning the article up to reduce and remove any problems, regards Atlantic306 (talk) 23:21, 29 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-29T23:21:00.000Z","author":"Atlantic306","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Atlantic306-2021-05-29T23:21:00.000Z-Atlantic306-2021-05-27T23:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Vansh Sayani.jpg

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I made a mistake. I will never upload copyright content wikipedia. Tellyring (talk) 08:35, 30 May 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-30T08:35:00.000Z","author":"Tellyring","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tellyring-2021-05-30T08:35:00.000Z-Vansh_Sayani.jpg","replies":[]}}-->

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