May the New Year bring everything you wish for and more! Wishing you and yours all the very best. –pjoef (talk • contribs) 10:21, 2 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-02T10:21:00.000Z","author":"Pjoef","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pjoef-2013-01-02T10:21:00.000Z-Happy_New_Year_2013-1","replies":["c-John-2013-01-02T10:38:00.000Z-Pjoef-2013-01-02T10:21:00.000Z"]}}-->
Please accept a belated thank you for the well wishes upon my retirement as FAC delegate this year, and apologies for the false alarm of my first—and hopefully last—retirement; the well wishes extended me were most kind, but I decided to return, re-committed, when another blocked sock was revealed as one of the factors aggravating the FA pages this year.
Maintaining standards in featured content requires vigilance, dedication and knowledge of people like you, who are needed; reviews are always welcome at FAC, FAR and TFA requests. Somehow, somehow we never ever seem to do nothin' completely nice and easy, but here's hoping that 2013 will see a peaceful road ahead and a return to the quality and comaraderie that defines the FA process, with the help of many dedicated Wikipedians!
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At this. And of course, I couldn't agree more.
Take care. =) Kurtis (talk) 16:59, 7 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-07T16:59:00.000Z","author":"Kurtis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurtis-2013-01-07T16:59:00.000Z-I_lol'd","replies":["c-John-2013-01-07T20:01:00.000Z-Kurtis-2013-01-07T16:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John. There's a little trouble at the Liana Cornell article with which I've unfortunately got involved today. The article is pretty dreadful, and to be honest (and despite my inclusionist tendencies) it is probably pushing the notability boundaries (let's be honest, appearing in five episodes of a TV series, studying at an acting school, and being the daughter of a minor television personality probably isn't enough; is it?). I'm not the only editor who has questioned the claims of the subject being called a "model", however there is now an editor who thinks that minor mentions in sources (and none to specific modelling assignments) is enough for inclusion in: the article text, infobox, and categories of "model". I made one revert this morning, however I'm happy to leave the article alone pending what others say. Apart from the article itself (about which I'd be keeon to hear your opinion), I'm having trouble convincing that editor not to post on my talk page (despite repeated requests) as I believe that the issue should be discussed on the article's talk page so that other editors can be involved. Thanks in advance for any advice that you can give on this matter. Cheers. GFHandel ♬ 01:35, 8 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-08T01:35:00.000Z","author":"GFHandel","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GFHandel-2013-01-08T01:35:00.000Z-Help_at_the_Liana_Cornell_article_please","replies":["c-John-2013-01-08T06:26:00.000Z-GFHandel-2013-01-08T01:35:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John,
Looking through the edit history at Cannabis (drug) I see we are having the same issues with the same editors as you have dealt with there in the past. We're talking about it here - I wondered if you had any ideas for how to put a stop to this slow, ongoing edit war. petrarchan47tc 08:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-09T08:02:00.000Z","author":"Petrarchan47","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Petrarchan47-2013-01-09T08:02:00.000Z-Ideas?","replies":["c-John-2013-01-09T18:40:00.000Z-Petrarchan47-2013-01-09T08:02:00.000Z"]}}-->
I see that you have already had to deal with this single-issue new account. Well, it looks like they have just discovered the sockpuppetry ploy. Oh joy. --Mais oui! (talk) 15:07, 12 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-12T15:07:00.000Z","author":"Mais oui!","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mais_oui!-2013-01-12T15:07:00.000Z-User:Flagators_is_now_using_a_sockpuppet_to_pursue_inane_campaign","replies":["c-John-2013-01-12T19:31:00.000Z-Mais_oui!-2013-01-12T15:07:00.000Z"]}}-->
erm... that was quick. And total.
Sources would be nice, yes. But, which aspect of this contribution needs sources?
PM2.5 is from coal smoke, isnt it?
Should a new section be added?
~ripe.program 22:03, 13 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ripe.program (talk • contribs)
verifiable or verified?
I am aware of this problem. To say 'everything needs a source' is over-inclusive, isn't it? Many other points are made, on Wikipedia in general and even within this same section, without citations.
As i stated, data on the percentage contribution of heat generation to pm pollution is not available (or existing). But no figure is cited.
On the other hand: 1. heating is provided by coal, as described: This is common knowledge. Discuss... Is there any resident of Beijing who would suggest otherwise? Would you? 2. coal burning contributes to air pollution: any suggestions?
Those the only two points being made.
On the broader question of contribution: Admissibility of information: regarding knowledge of China, one must make certain allowances, or simply accept a state of un-knowing. As the science fiction writers used to say, to proceed by eye rather than pi. Is a blank really better than a description? Discuss?
In general, I agree, it would sure be nice to see someone, somewhere, who has published some semi-official material on this subject. Then, I could simply say: "According to...". That such material is not available in english is not surprising, at all. Who talks about small scale coal use in China? Who can talk about it?
Wouldn't it be better to make a specific challenge to the material? Wouldn't that make the page better, as in, more informative, interesting?
Would you say, I should tone it down? Is the 'small nation' comparison too stark?
At your service, ~ripe.program 22:59, 13 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ripe.program (talk • contribs)
I have restored the entry from yesterday, and re-parsed and re-written it. Please take a look; I think it is much improved, making the same point while depending on more verified statements. ~ripe.program 02:57, 15 January 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ripe.program (talk • contribs)
Hiya John,
If i have to add any text to the article could you verify the English ie spelling, grammar and punctuation? making sure the article reads well and continues it slow progress to GA. Whenever i add anything i am spell checking it but that does not always work 100% works most times but it certainly doesn't fix grammar or punctuation errors or errors like there should be their. I know you do watch the page and update it when you can but if you are able to do it it saves me hunting down a copyeditor to fix my mistakes and i can just let you know on your talk page i have added something what it is and where. If you to busy no worries i will get it fixed eventually just might not be soon after addingAndrewcrawford (talk - contrib) 16:34, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-14T16:34:00.000Z","author":"Andrewcrawford","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Andrewcrawford-2013-01-14T16:34:00.000Z-Rangers_FC_article","replies":["c-John-2013-01-14T18:29:00.000Z-Andrewcrawford-2013-01-14T16:34:00.000Z"]}}-->
I left you some baklava over at Commons, because I'm just cool that way.
Take care, and drive safely. =) Kurtis (talk) 20:54, 14 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-14T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Kurtis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kurtis-2013-01-14T20:54:00.000Z-Baklava","replies":["c-John-2013-01-14T20:56:00.000Z-Kurtis-2013-01-14T20:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
First, yes I think the block for Guitarhero on the roof was warranted. Second, I find comments such as these [1] deeply offensive. Can anything be done? Truthkeeper (talk) 21:38, 16 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-16T21:38:00.000Z","author":"Truthkeeper88","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Truthkeeper88-2013-01-16T21:38:00.000Z-Question","replies":["c-John-2013-01-16T23:15:00.000Z-Truthkeeper88-2013-01-16T21:38:00.000Z","c-HaugenErik-2013-01-18T00:12:00.000Z-Truthkeeper88-2013-01-16T21:38:00.000Z","c-Maunus-2013-01-17T21:05:00.000Z-Truthkeeper88-2013-01-16T21:38:00.000Z","c-Seb_az86556-2013-01-17T21:47:00.000Z-Truthkeeper88-2013-01-16T21:38:00.000Z","c-HaugenErik-2013-01-18T00:12:00.000Z-Truthkeeper88-2013-01-16T21:38:00.000Z-1"],"displayName":"Truthkeeper"}}-->
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WP:DATEFORMAT allows for a few acceptable date styles, as long as they are consistent throughout an article. Please do not change an article to a different date format with no reason. -TinGrin 15:51, 21 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-21T15:51:00.000Z","author":"Tingrin87","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tingrin87-2013-01-21T15:51:00.000Z-Dates","replies":["c-John-2013-01-21T16:37:00.000Z-Tingrin87-2013-01-21T15:51:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thank you for copyediting the article. Please inform me when your finished. LittleJerry (talk) 15:59, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-23T15:59:00.000Z","author":"LittleJerry","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LittleJerry-2013-01-23T15:59:00.000Z-Elephant_copyedit","replies":["c-John-2013-01-23T16:03:00.000Z-LittleJerry-2013-01-23T15:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks again for your help. LittleJerry (talk) 18:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-27T18:39:00.000Z","author":"LittleJerry","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LittleJerry-2013-01-27T18:39:00.000Z-Elephant_copyedit","replies":["c-John-2013-01-27T18:44:00.000Z-LittleJerry-2013-01-27T18:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm curious about process now on YRC, after he post a morsel of remorse. Is it a matter of inviting all those who have expressed their views to confirm or revise those views? Are we meant to re-start the discussion somehow? The discussion as it stood already leads to a pretty clear conclusion (imo). What next, at this stage? It's also troubling to imagine that the outcome here might work out to be de-sysop for Maunus and scot-free for YRC, especially given the restrictions YRC had agreed to live with. Nomoskedasticity (talk) 23:22, 23 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-23T23:22:00.000Z","author":"Nomoskedasticity","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nomoskedasticity-2013-01-23T23:22:00.000Z-ANI","replies":["c-John-2013-01-24T06:19:00.000Z-Nomoskedasticity-2013-01-23T23:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
Could you cut and paste this article from where it starts "Unbeknowst to millions of viewers"? It's only available to subscribers. On Beyoncé's talk page. thanks!--Aichik (talk) 02:17, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-26T02:17:00.000Z","author":"Aichik","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aichik-2013-01-26T02:17:00.000Z-Beyonce_lip-sync_article","replies":["c-John-2013-01-26T19:21:00.000Z-Aichik-2013-01-26T02:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've responded to your oppose. --JDC808 ♫ 19:18, 26 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-26T19:18:00.000Z","author":"JDC808","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JDC808-2013-01-26T19:18:00.000Z-God_of_War_FAC","replies":["c-John-2013-01-26T19:21:00.000Z-JDC808-2013-01-26T19:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi, can you delete all of the stubs created by User:Jaguar in the past two days, they're full of errors, it's not as if it's just one minor error which can be fixed using AWB. Except Qingfengdian. I've and two other editors have picked up on the errors and have warned him and he has agreed that it's best to quick delete them to avoid it blowing up into something nasty. I don't want to see him repeat what he did last year, so I'm stepping in over this as he's too good to be producing these flawed stubs. I tried to expand a few but they're so riddled it's just better to delete them and start again. I'm hoping he'll learn to produce articles efficiently and accurately. If you could delete them as soon as you can I'd be grateful.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 00:59, 27 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-27T00:59:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-01-27T00:59:00.000Z-Deletion","replies":["c-John-2013-01-27T01:03:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-01-27T00:59:00.000Z","c-John-2013-01-27T01:10:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-01-27T00:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks again for all your helpful edits and insightful comments. I noticed that you removed a serial comma from the Cancer section header; should we also remove the last comma in the section header: "Family, friends, and interests"? I don't feel too strongly either way, but Evan had implemented the serial comma in the article several months ago and I don't want to edit war or argue with anyone over its use, but I also don't want inconsistencies at the page. Perhaps I am missing something here that you could explain to me, cheers! GabeMc (talk|contribs) 02:58, 30 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-30T02:58:00.000Z","author":"GabeMc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GabeMc-2013-01-30T02:58:00.000Z-Harrison_FAC","replies":["c-John-2013-01-30T06:21:00.000Z-GabeMc-2013-01-30T02:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've addressed all of your points. Could you take a look? --JDC808 ♫ 21:01, 1 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-01T21:01:00.000Z","author":"JDC808","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JDC808-2013-02-01T21:01:00.000Z-God_of_War_FAC_2","replies":["c-JDC808-2013-02-05T18:34:00.000Z-JDC808-2013-02-01T21:01:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Sorry, found this a bit odd: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jeremy_Clarkson&curid=265586&diff=539295534&oldid=539294192 What exactly is wrong with tabloids? Are you considering them to not be a reputable source? It's a bit odd since the person in question actually writes for one! Should we ignore everything he says in his own column just because its in a tabloid? Narom (talk) 21:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-20T21:31:00.000Z","author":"Narom","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Narom-2013-02-20T21:31:00.000Z-Tabloids","replies":["c-Narom-2013-02-20T21:34:00.000Z-Narom-2013-02-20T21:31:00.000Z","c-John-2013-02-20T21:53:00.000Z-Narom-2013-02-20T21:31:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Thanks for that, can you do the remainder on the talk page?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 12:50, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-23T12:50:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-02-23T12:50:00.000Z-Nightwash","replies":["c-John-2013-02-23T13:12:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-02-23T12:50:00.000Z"]}}-->
I filled in Klaus-Jürgen Deuser, can you translate from German wiki whenever you feel like it of course! I'll source it after you've done.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 22:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-23T22:16:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-02-23T22:16:00.000Z-Nightwash","replies":["c-John-2013-02-23T22:18:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-02-23T22:16:00.000Z","c-John-2013-02-24T11:00:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-02-23T22:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
Let me know if you enjoy this, this is true mastery.♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:09, 24 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-24T21:09:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-02-24T21:09:00.000Z-Nightwash","replies":["c-John-2013-02-24T21:46:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-02-24T21:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Hi John. I have deleted the mug shot. There was still one non-free file on the page; it's the famous shot where Lennon is autographing the album cover. So I have put that one in the info box. Please feel free to contest this decision if you disagree. Best, -- Dianna (talk) 01:26, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-03T01:26:00.000Z","author":"Diannaa","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Diannaa-2013-03-03T01:26:00.000Z-File:Markchapmanmugshot.jpg","replies":["c-John-2013-03-03T10:56:00.000Z-Diannaa-2013-03-03T01:26:00.000Z","c-John-2013-03-03T11:02:00.000Z-Diannaa-2013-03-03T01:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Dianna"}}-->
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Hi, I recently edited that page to add the reactions of the Mexican government, and I noticed you put a "too long" tag on it. There are pages such as International reactions to the death of Muammar Gaddafi or Reactions to the death of Osama bin Laden that are even longer than this one. So far, it seems fine. Maybe Trinidad and Tobago, Guyana, and Colombia's sections are a bit long, but considering those countries were quite close to Venezuela, it makes sense. I just don't think it's "fluff" as you called it. Cancerbero 8 (talk) 14:14, 6 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-06T14:14:00.000Z","author":"Cancerbero 8","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cancerbero_8-2013-03-06T14:14:00.000Z-Reactions_to_death_of_Hugo_Chavez_too_long?","replies":["c-John-2013-03-06T14:16:00.000Z-Cancerbero_8-2013-03-06T14:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
The DYK project (nominate) 08:29, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
A blast from the past. Added an article but I'm a bit rusty! Sarah777 (talk) 19:54, 18 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-18T19:54:00.000Z","author":"Sarah777","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sarah777-2013-03-18T19:54:00.000Z-Help_wanted","replies":["c-John-2013-03-18T19:57:00.000Z-Sarah777-2013-03-18T19:54:00.000Z"]}}-->
Further to our exchange at your Talk about a month ago, the same User is at it again now that their 2 week block has expired. I have requested temp semi-protection of the John Logie Baird article. --Mais oui! (talk) 05:39, 19 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-19T05:39:00.000Z","author":"Mais oui!","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mais_oui!-2013-03-19T05:39:00.000Z-Recurrence_of_blocket_sockpuppet","replies":["c-John-2013-03-19T06:12:00.000Z-Mais_oui!-2013-03-19T05:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
hi, any chance you could translate this from here?♦ Dr. ☠ Blofeld 21:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-20T21:49:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2013-03-20T21:49:00.000Z-Abala,_Niger","replies":["c-John-2013-03-21T19:47:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2013-03-20T21:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi, John. Since you commented at the original FAC for George Harrison, I wonder if you wouldn't mind giving it a second look for the current FAC when you get a chance. As always, any input you can provide will be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 07:55, 24 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-24T07:55:00.000Z","author":"Evanh2008","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evanh2008-2013-03-24T07:55:00.000Z-George_Harrison","replies":["c-John-2013-03-24T12:12:00.000Z-Evanh2008-2013-03-24T07:55:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi. I'm having trouble discussing genre changes with an IP at Are You Experienced. After reverting my cleanup of his OR-filled, poorly cited genre addition, he avoided commenting on the content and once again accused me of something and threatened to "report me" somewhere at this talk page. My attempts to his talk page before were deleted by him, and soliciting comments from other editors naturally led the IP to comment similarly (here and here). Could you comment at Talk:Are You Experienced#Researching genres? Dan56 (talk) 19:37, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-27T19:37:00.000Z","author":"Dan56","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dan56-2013-03-27T19:37:00.000Z-Help_with_IP","replies":[]}}-->
That's it I just reported you, to the last admin that blocked you. enough of this foolishness Quit trying to Edit war as you down here 1, sock puppeting as you done with 82.39.108.194, EDIT WARRING BY PROXY(Having others revert edits for you) [2], [3] [4], Violation of WP:Npov and Harassing me/Spamming me talk page with warnings/messages--75.65.123.86 (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-27T19:42:00.000Z","author":"75.65.123.86","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-75.65.123.86-2013-03-27T19:42:00.000Z-Help_with_IP","replies":["c-John-2013-03-27T20:02:00.000Z-75.65.123.86-2013-03-27T19:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've come up with three options for formatting the definitions section, here, in such a way as to reduce the impact of or eliminate the need for embedded lists. Could you have a look please and let me know how they stack up? Thank you. Sandbh (talk) 12:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-28T12:39:00.000Z","author":"Sandbh","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sandbh-2013-03-28T12:39:00.000Z-Metalloid","replies":["c-John-2013-03-28T12:46:00.000Z-Sandbh-2013-03-28T12:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thank you for your edits to alcohol laws of New Jersey. The changes look good. One question - does Wikipedia have a policy about the sizes of pictures? I noticed that you shrunk most of them. DavidinNJ (talk) 13:50, 28 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-28T13:50:00.000Z","author":"DavidinNJ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DavidinNJ-2013-03-28T13:50:00.000Z-Alcohol_Laws_of_New_Jersey","replies":["c-John-2013-03-28T13:52:00.000Z-DavidinNJ-2013-03-28T13:50:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello. You have a new message at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Alcohol laws of New Jersey/archive1#Review by John's talk page. DavidinNJ (talk) 18:16, 29 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-29T18:16:00.000Z","author":"DavidinNJ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DavidinNJ-2013-03-29T18:16:00.000Z-Alcohol_Laws_of_New_Jersey","replies":[]}}-->
A year or so ago we had an exchange of views about an article I'd been chiefly responsible for. You have probably forgotten it, but I was, I now think, discourteous about your suggestions for redrawing the prose. Permit me to apologise and to say that dipping into FAC articles to do what good I can I keep running across your contributions and am greatly impressed by the extent and the precision of your work to polish the prose of FA candidates. No reply needed to this. Tim riley (talk) 22:47, 30 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-30T22:47:00.000Z","author":"Tim riley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tim_riley-2013-03-30T22:47:00.000Z-Polishing_the_prose","replies":["c-John-2013-03-30T23:01:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2013-03-30T22:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello John,
I posted my views on Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Fyodor Dostoyevsky/archive2. Perhaps I misunderstood you, but I can not see any samples, nor do I know what you mean with "brilliant" prose. There is quite simply no "brilliant" prose. One would find that formal language is "brilliant", other American English, and other British English. If you find there are distinct prose issues, then I would be happy to hear a few samples. However and nethertheless do no harm and are quite helpful in some cases. Regards.--Tomcat (7) 21:49, 31 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-31T21:49:00.000Z","author":"Tomcat7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tomcat7-2013-03-31T21:49:00.000Z-Dostoevsky","replies":["c-John-2013-04-01T07:58:00.000Z-Tomcat7-2013-03-31T21:49:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Tomcat"}}-->
Aye there, 'John', I'm a member of WikiProject Ships. To help naval historians here at Wikipedia in the effort of writing and citing naval history articles sometime ago I created the List of ships captured in the 19th century and Bibliography of early American naval history pages. Over the last year(+) I have been tracking down and including names of captured ships and naval history texts for inclusion in either of these articles. I like to think that I have included most captured ships (19th century) and most naval history texts (covering the 1700s-1800s) for inclusion in these articles, so if you know of any captured ships or naval history texts that are not included would you kindly include them, either on the page or the talk page of the appropriate article? Any help would be a big help and feedback is always welcomed. Thanx! -- Gwillhickers (talk) 21:47, 1 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-01T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Gwillhickers","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gwillhickers-2013-04-01T21:47:00.000Z-Naval_History","replies":[]}}-->
Regarding Technical 13 (talk · contribs). The blink was removed after User talk:Technical_13#Fix your signature; would you be able to review User talk:Technical_13#A_few_things... and User_talk:Launchballer#Your_Signature, to see if you could suggest any suitable next steps of guidance. —Sladen (talk) 11:18, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-02T11:18:00.000Z","author":"Sladen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sladen-2013-04-02T11:18:00.000Z-User:Technical_13","replies":["c-John-2013-04-02T12:13:00.000Z-Sladen-2013-04-02T11:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
I very much agreed with your indef in this case, but I thought I'd let you know I've unblocked. With any luck the block (and the conversation that followed) has served as an adequate clue-adjustment tool in this case. If you disagree then feel free to reblock. I appreciate that there is a degree of irony here, which didn't occur to me until after I'd hit the button. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 15:13, 4 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-04T15:13:00.000Z","author":"Thumperward","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thumperward-2013-04-04T15:13:00.000Z-User:Technical_13","replies":["c-John-2013-04-04T15:43:00.000Z-Thumperward-2013-04-04T15:13:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward)"}}-->
After your excellent efforts at Middle Ages, reducing my bloat, I've gone and added a bunch more - needed to cover women, a bit more on social life and some stuff on Jews and coinage. I *think* i'm all done now. I hope. Maybe. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:57, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-02T17:57:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2013-04-02T17:57:00.000Z-Sheepish_...","replies":["c-Ealdgyth-2013-04-02T17:58:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-04-02T17:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi, John. Do you plan to finish your review of Uruguayan War? Regards, --Lecen (talk) 20:50, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-02T20:50:00.000Z","author":"Lecen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lecen-2013-04-02T20:50:00.000Z-Uruguayan_War","replies":["c-John-2013-04-02T21:14:00.000Z-Lecen-2013-04-02T20:50:00.000Z"]}}-->
John, please don't forget to finish your review. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 19:40, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-09T19:40:00.000Z","author":"Lecen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lecen-2013-04-09T19:40:00.000Z-Uruguayan_War","replies":["c-John-2013-04-09T20:16:00.000Z-Lecen-2013-04-09T19:40:00.000Z"]}}-->
John, you told me that there were were a couple of questions still pending. What are they? --Lecen (talk) 16:05, 16 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-16T16:05:00.000Z","author":"Lecen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lecen-2013-04-16T16:05:00.000Z-Uruguayan_War","replies":["c-John-2013-04-16T18:34:00.000Z-Lecen-2013-04-16T16:05:00.000Z","c-John-2013-04-17T22:12:00.000Z-Lecen-2013-04-16T16:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, I noticed your comment on Ceoil's page and just wanted to mention in case you've not been aware that this has been an ongoing issue that as far as I'm concerned has elicited nasty behavior from other editors as well for more than a year. I for one would like to see the editors who use tactics other than swearing also receive a comment. For instance, I wasn't impressed that someone left a comment on my page asking me to do something about Ceoil's and Giano's spelling in a recent infobox conversation (imperfect spelling that apparently happened while I was logged out, but somehow I seem to bear the responsibility); although a minor incident, it's the reason I've decided to stop editing until this issue can either be resolved or at least stop being such a timesink. Anyway sorry to butt in but I thought I'd mention that I've been seeing a lot of baiting at best. I'm well aware that swearing merits a comment, but you're also well aware that there's behavior that's much more nuanced, stubborn, etc., that wears down editors and finally drives them away. Maybe now this is at AN/I someone will take notice but I fear, as usual, the bad language will trump all the rest. Anyway thanks for listening and best. Truthkeeper (talk) 21:23, 2 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-02T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Truthkeeper88","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Truthkeeper88-2013-04-02T21:23:00.000Z-Civility_and_infoboxes","replies":["c-John-2013-04-03T10:39:00.000Z-Truthkeeper88-2013-04-02T21:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Truthkeeper"}}-->
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Why did you removed the Personal Life Section from Eve Hewson's article and James Lafferty as her partner from her infobox?? Miss Bono (zootalk) 19:00, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-05T19:00:00.000Z","author":"Miss Bono","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Miss_Bono-2013-04-05T19:00:00.000Z-Eve_Hewson","replies":["c-John-2013-04-06T01:14:00.000Z-Miss_Bono-2013-04-05T19:00:00.000Z"]}}-->
John, I'd be interested in a review from you on this given it's apparently had another copyedit since its last FAC, and has attracted a good deal of support this time round but not, I believe, from outside the gamer community. Tks/cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 05:16, 6 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-06T05:16:00.000Z","author":"Ian Rose","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ian_Rose-2013-04-06T05:16:00.000Z-God_of_War_FAC_3","replies":["c-John-2013-04-07T07:29:00.000Z-Ian_Rose-2013-04-06T05:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
The nomination was archived. Would you care to post other issues you may have had on the article's Talk page so I can take care of them before the next nomination? --JDC808 ♫ 14:29, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-13T14:29:00.000Z","author":"JDC808","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JDC808-2013-04-13T14:29:00.000Z-God_of_War_FAC_3","replies":["c-John-2013-04-13T15:41:00.000Z-JDC808-2013-04-13T14:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
Notifying you that God of War (video game) is up for FAC again. Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/God of War (video game)/archive4 --JDC808 ♫ 20:44, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-27T20:44:00.000Z","author":"JDC808","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JDC808-2013-04-27T20:44:00.000Z-God_of_War_FAC_3","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks for your comments at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/George Harrison/archive2. I've recently made a series of edits to the article that I feel have helped flesh-out "Harrison the man". If you can find the time, Evan and I would greatly appreciate it if you took another look. GabeMc (talk|contribs) 22:25, 7 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-07T22:25:00.000Z","author":"GabeMc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GabeMc-2013-04-07T22:25:00.000Z-Harrison_FAC_2","replies":["c-John-2013-04-07T22:34:00.000Z-GabeMc-2013-04-07T22:25:00.000Z","c-GabeMc-2013-04-10T22:51:00.000Z-GabeMc-2013-04-07T22:25:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi, how are you? I was wondering if you were willing to comment on the FAC for Denial (Sugababes song) which is here, as the review has gone quite stale. If you are not willing, please ignore this message Till 06:23, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-08T06:23:00.000Z","author":"Till","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Till-2013-04-08T06:23:00.000Z-FAC_for_Denial_(Sugababes_song)","replies":["c-John-2013-04-08T06:31:00.000Z-Till-2013-04-08T06:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks very much, both of you. --John (talk) 17:17, 8 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-08T17:17:00.000Z","author":"John","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John-2013-04-08T17:17:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3","replies":["c-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-08T17:22:00.000Z-John-2013-04-08T17:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
The nonsense over at Maggie's article is driving me mad, so I've had to take it off my watchlist. Maybe when things quieten down after her funeral I'll take another tentative peek and see what damage has been done. One thing's for sure though, it's further away now from ever regaining its FA status than it was yesterday morning. Malleus Fatuorum 18:03, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-09T18:03:00.000Z","author":"Malleus Fatuorum","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-09T18:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3","replies":["c-John-2013-04-09T19:36:00.000Z-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-09T18:03:00.000Z","c-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-11T23:19:00.000Z-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-09T18:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Malleus"}}-->
I've just noticed that some clot has opened a GA reassessment on Maggie's article right in the middle of all this recent bollocks. Some people haven't got the sense they were born with. Malleus Fatuorum 17:25, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-18T17:25:00.000Z","author":"Malleus Fatuorum","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-18T17:25:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_3","replies":["c-John-2013-04-18T17:32:00.000Z-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-18T17:25:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Malleus"}}-->
What is so bullshit (as you like o put it) about the film? Really don't understand what the problem is, sure could have gotten a better source, but nonetheless, a docementary film that should be mentioned. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Radiohist (talk • contribs) 09:24, 9 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-09T09:24:00.000Z","author":"Radiohist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Radiohist-2013-04-09T09:24:00.000Z-William_Karel's_film_about_Margaret_Thatcher","replies":["c-John-2013-04-09T09:40:00.000Z-Radiohist-2013-04-09T09:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm curious . . . I see from your User Page that you've been editing since 2005, when the site was about four years old. Was the name "John" actually still available at that time, or have you assumed an abandoned name? HuskyHuskie (talk) 03:07, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-10T03:07:00.000Z","author":"HuskyHuskie","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HuskyHuskie-2013-04-10T03:07:00.000Z-Your_name","replies":["c-John-2013-04-10T05:50:00.000Z-HuskyHuskie-2013-04-10T03:07:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, I noticed your revert of a couple of wikilinks I provided for the Margaret Thatcher article. I thought the 'butter for guns' wikilink was quite helpful, is it policy not to have links within quotes as I've not heard anything to that effect? Cheers Hillbillyholiday talk 14:21, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-10T14:21:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-10T14:21:00.000Z-Links_in_quote","replies":["c-John-2013-04-10T14:24:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-10T14:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Hillbillyholiday"}}-->
I'm curious: Why is it only with me you'll revert war over the long-standing images you removed without consensus? You aren't imposing your will consistently and things are currently a mess. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 23:23, 10 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-10T23:23:00.000Z","author":"Miesianiacal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Miesianiacal-2013-04-10T23:23:00.000Z-Decorative_images","replies":["c-John-2013-04-11T07:33:00.000Z-Miesianiacal-2013-04-10T23:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, I owe you an unreserved apology for a comment I made about your review here. I retract it and hope you will forgive me. I can't fathom what caused my stupidity, unless it's old age. Best wishes, Graham. Graham Colm (talk) 05:55, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-11T05:55:00.000Z","author":"GrahamColm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GrahamColm-2013-04-11T05:55:00.000Z-Apology","replies":["c-John-2013-04-11T07:35:00.000Z-GrahamColm-2013-04-11T05:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Graham Colm"}}-->
John, alcohol laws of New Jersey was made a feature article. Thank you for your help. We are petitioning to have it placed on the main page for a day - Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests. DavidinNJ (talk) 12:41, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-11T12:41:00.000Z","author":"DavidinNJ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DavidinNJ-2013-04-11T12:41:00.000Z-Feature_Article","replies":["c-John-2013-04-11T18:49:00.000Z-DavidinNJ-2013-04-11T12:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for the ARBCC notice to RobinLarson. NewsAndEventsGuy (talk) 23:58, 11 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-11T23:58:00.000Z","author":"NewsAndEventsGuy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NewsAndEventsGuy-2013-04-11T23:58:00.000Z-Thanks","replies":["c-John-2013-04-12T00:00:00.000Z-NewsAndEventsGuy-2013-04-11T23:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
[6]. See you at ANI. ;-) Malleus Fatuorum 16:30, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-12T16:30:00.000Z","author":"Malleus Fatuorum","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-12T16:30:00.000Z-I've_obviously_been_a_bad_influence","replies":["c-John-2013-04-12T16:32:00.000Z-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-12T16:30:00.000Z","c-John-2013-04-12T17:18:00.000Z-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-12T16:30:00.000Z","c-Ealdgyth-2013-04-12T17:39:00.000Z-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-12T16:30:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Malleus"}}-->
I noticed both in my watchlist and on Malleus' talk that you have been diligent in keeping the quality of the Margaret Thatcher article at the highest possible levels. TY for that. — Ched : ? 18:37, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-12T18:37:00.000Z","author":"Ched","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ched-2013-04-12T18:37:00.000Z-TY","replies":["c-John-2013-04-12T18:55:00.000Z-Ched-2013-04-12T18:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
Aw thanks, that's really nice of you! And I am delighted we finally got it through. You did most of the work and deserve most of the credit. --John (talk) 20:43, 12 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-12T20:43:00.000Z","author":"John","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John-2013-04-12T20:43:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_(2)","replies":["c-GabeMc-2013-04-12T20:52:00.000Z-John-2013-04-12T20:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
How's it going? The 80% discussion's started up again. As important as the wealth info is to people, i don't think i can bear going over it again. Staying with Thatch though, do you know much about the Battle of the Beanfield? For the cops who had just been decking hard-working miners, the chance to deck "crusty jugglers" at the Beanfields was an absolute dream.. I know some people who were there, who had their newborn (a kid named 'lay-by') showered with glass as the police went nuts and smashed the fuck out of his home. Luckily they didn't burn it down like some others had done to them. Shocking clips on youtube - in an ideal world this would be as well-known as the miner stuff, but even now people have little sympathy for the new-age traveller community. Hillbillyholiday talk 10:19, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-13T10:19:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-13T10:19:00.000Z-Beanfields","replies":["c-Martinevans123-2013-04-13T10:28:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-13T10:19:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Hillbillyholiday"}}-->
(On June 5th, 1986) "..Margaret Thatcher told the nation that her government was "only too delighted to do anything we can to make life difficult for such things as hippy convoys." gotcha! A few months the Public Order Act 1986 "made trespass a criminal offence and stated: "Two people proceeding in a given direction can constitute a procession and can be arrested as a threat to civil order".>BBC news website "This was the final nail in the coffin of the British free festival movement - effectively stopping the "new-age travellers" and festival-goers in their tracks.">BBC news website Without getting into synthesis issues yet, i think i can justify the inclusion of some of this into the article. maybe later, though, when it all calms down. Hillbillyholiday talk 11:27, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-13T11:27:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-13T11:27:00.000Z-Beanfields","replies":["c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-13T11:32:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-13T11:27:00.000Z","c-John-2013-04-13T11:33:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-13T11:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Hillbillyholiday"}}-->
John, it's been four weeks since you started this review, and said you'd be back to do it in detail, but you haven't yet returned. If you are still interested in pursuing it, can you get started soon? If not, we can put it back in the pool for a new reviewer. Thanks. BlueMoonset (talk) 23:28, 13 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-13T23:28:00.000Z","author":"BlueMoonset","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BlueMoonset-2013-04-13T23:28:00.000Z-Talk:Edinburgh\/GA3","replies":["c-John-2013-04-14T09:55:00.000Z-BlueMoonset-2013-04-13T23:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John! Long since you interacted at the FAC. Any more comments you would like to make or would you support/oppose? I hope all your comments have been answered, so please decide on this soon. Thanks, Sainsf <^>Talk all words 01:20, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-14T01:20:00.000Z","author":"Sainsf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sainsf-2013-04-14T01:20:00.000Z-Hartebeest","replies":["c-John-2013-04-14T10:01:00.000Z-Sainsf-2013-04-14T01:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Rather than suggesting to other people that I do not understand what I did wrong, how about you answer the specific points that I raised both at my talk page and the Andrew Marr talk page? Kevin McE (talk) 21:52, 14 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-14T21:52:00.000Z","author":"Kevin McE","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kevin_McE-2013-04-14T21:52:00.000Z-So_please_tell_me...","replies":["c-John-2013-04-15T05:06:00.000Z-Kevin_McE-2013-04-14T21:52:00.000Z","c-Iridescent-2013-04-15T18:53:00.000Z-Kevin_McE-2013-04-14T21:52:00.000Z"]}}-->
You have been one of the most active contributors to Iain Banks. As you may know, he is going to pass away in the near future :( Perhaps you will be interested in the initiative to improve his article as a parting gift from us. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 09:04, 15 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-15T09:04:00.000Z","author":"Piotrus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Piotrus-2013-04-15T09:04:00.000Z-Improving_Iain_Banks","replies":["c-John-2013-04-15T09:13:00.000Z-Piotrus-2013-04-15T09:04:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus"}}-->
Adam Cuerden (talk) 23:20, 18 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-18T23:20:00.000Z","author":"Adam Cuerden","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Adam_Cuerden-2013-04-18T23:20:00.000Z-Wikipedia:ANI#Talk:Margaret_Thatcher.23POV-section","replies":["c-John-2013-04-19T05:35:00.000Z-Adam_Cuerden-2013-04-18T23:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello. There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Does WP:NPA apply here? Does WP:BLP?. Thank you. —Guy Macon (talk) 17:36, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-19T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Guy Macon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Guy_Macon-2013-04-19T17:36:00.000Z-Wikipedia:ANI#Talk:Margaret_Thatcher.23POV-section","replies":["c-John-2013-04-19T17:47:00.000Z-Guy_Macon-2013-04-19T17:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
[8] Adam is indeed a source, a source of fucking irritation. Malleus Fatuorum 20:40, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-25T20:40:00.000Z","author":"Malleus Fatuorum","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-25T20:40:00.000Z-Wikipedia:ANI#Talk:Margaret_Thatcher.23POV-section","replies":["c-John-2013-04-25T21:06:00.000Z-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-25T20:40:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Malleus"}}-->
John, I'm sorry, but I didn't understand what you requested on the FAC. As far as I know there is no requirement that says that a German editor should give his "okay" if an American or British editor tries to nominate World War II, for example. And I couldn't understand why the opinion of an Uruguayan was needed on the three paragraphs you presented:
I hope you don't see me as confrontational. I really didn't understand well what you meant and I thought I could perhaps explain it. Let me know if there is anything else not clear. --Lecen (talk) 18:50, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-19T18:50:00.000Z","author":"Lecen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lecen-2013-04-19T18:50:00.000Z-FAC","replies":["c-John-2013-04-19T19:19:00.000Z-Lecen-2013-04-19T18:50:00.000Z"]}}-->
You can check all the main sources on-line. The others were used merely to complement these. --Lecen (talk) 19:44, 19 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-19T19:44:00.000Z","author":"Lecen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lecen-2013-04-19T19:44:00.000Z-FAC","replies":["c-John-2013-04-19T20:57:00.000Z-Lecen-2013-04-19T19:44:00.000Z","c-Malleus_Fatuorum-2013-04-20T00:04:00.000Z-Lecen-2013-04-19T19:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm just dropping you a quick note about a new Wikipedian in Residence job that's opened up at the National Library of Scotland. There're more details at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scotland#Wikimedian in Residence at the National Library of Scotland. Richard Symonds (WMUK) (talk) 15:29, 22 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-22T15:29:00.000Z","author":"Richard Symonds (WMUK)","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Richard_Symonds_(WMUK)-2013-04-22T15:29:00.000Z-Wikipedian_in_Residence_at_the_National_Library_of_Scotland","replies":[]}}-->
Hi, fellow John. I just noticed your run-in with the folks who developed a John Le Mesurier page for a featured article. They put you down real fast, at the top of the talk page I see Talk:John Le Mesurier. I encountered them and their personas 3 weeks later with even worse results. If you hadn't already, you might like to catch up with their spoofing talk and circular reasoning. Fortunately, there are those who find humour in the situation. I told them I think they exist in violation of WP:MEAT. Do you live North of Hadrian's Wall? Safer up there, I think. Are you an admin? JohnClarknew (talk) 23:05, 24 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-24T23:05:00.000Z","author":"JohnClarknew","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JohnClarknew-2013-04-24T23:05:00.000Z-John_Le_Mesurier","replies":["c-John-2013-04-25T05:00:00.000Z-JohnClarknew-2013-04-24T23:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Please feel free to join this roll call Miss Bono (zootalk) 17:12, 25 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-25T17:12:00.000Z","author":"Miss Bono","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Miss_Bono-2013-04-25T17:12:00.000Z-WikiProject_U2_invitation_2-1","replies":[]}}-->
Dunno if you've seen it John but yr quoted in the New Statesman [10]
Particularly harsh was the removal of Bulgarian Premier Marin Raykov's statement, with the words "bullshit, poorly sourced, badly written"
Good work! - Hillbillyholiday talk 00:08, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-26T00:08:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-26T00:08:00.000Z-New_statesman","replies":["c-John-2013-04-26T05:22:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-04-26T00:08:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Hillbillyholiday"}}-->
Evening, I used to edit year ago, but cannot remember my logins. Have felt compelled to make a few changed while browsing. Come across an isue so am seeking clarification from an admin. I sorted out the external links on [Surname map|this page]. I noticed one was a commercial site (that last one I wrote a description for). I can't see any sample data on it even. Further, the information it sells if freely available on other sites in the links. I looked up [11] and see point 6 says sites that require payment should not be on here. So should this be deleted? --5.64.191.207 (talk) 23:41, 26 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-26T23:41:00.000Z","author":"5.64.191.207","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-5.64.191.207-2013-04-26T23:41:00.000Z-Bad_link","replies":["c-John-2013-04-26T23:45:00.000Z-5.64.191.207-2013-04-26T23:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John. Margaret Thatcher: The specific claim that 'economic recovery brought a resurgence of support' is not referenced anywhere in the body of the article. All that is suggested in the article is that there were indications that economic recovery may have started - but no claims linking those signs to 'a resurgence of support'. To suggest that since there were signs of economic recovery = that explains the 'resurgence of support' is an opinion you may hold but needs to be supported by sources. However the vast bulk of sources clearly link the resurgence of support to the Falklands War, and should you wish to check the trend of opinion polls at the time, it will be obvious to you why that is the mainstream interpretation. Regards Fishiehelper2 (talk) 12:16, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-27T12:16:00.000Z","author":"Fishiehelper2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fishiehelper2-2013-04-27T12:16:00.000Z-Economic_recovery_brought_a_resurgence_of_support.....","replies":["c-John-2013-04-27T19:14:00.000Z-Fishiehelper2-2013-04-27T12:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John. Margaret Thatcher: Why delete my reference to the Queen attending a former prime minister's funeral for only the second time in her reign? Whether you disagreed with her or not, she was the first female Prime Minister and the Queen elevated the status of the occasion by attending with her husband. The Queen rarely attends any funeral outside her familyUser:ksk2875 (talk)
Hi John, many thanks for removing this. I removed it before (twice) but it got reverted. Its about time someone other than myself spotted the problem with this. Let me know if you want to discuss this more, otherwise I'm happy with your decision. Thanks again. Jodon | Talk 21:31, 27 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-27T21:31:00.000Z","author":"Jodon1971","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jodon1971-2013-04-27T21:31:00.000Z-Removed_section_on_genre_for_Clockwork_Orange_(film)","replies":["c-John-2013-04-27T21:48:00.000Z-Jodon1971-2013-04-27T21:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Jodon"}}-->
This is a note to let the main editors of George Harrison know that the article will be appearing as today's featured article on May 4, 2013. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. If you prefer that the article appear as TFA on a different date, or not at all, please ask featured article director Raul654 (talk · contribs) or one of his delegates (Dabomb87 (talk · contribs), Gimmetoo (talk · contribs), and Bencherlite (talk · contribs)), or start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/requests. You can view the TFA blurb at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/May 4, 2013. If it needs tweaking, or if it needs rewording to match improvements to the article between now and its main page appearance, please edit it, following the instructions at Wikipedia:Today's featured article/requests/instructions. The blurb as it stands now is below:
George Harrison (1943–2001) was an English musician, singer, and songwriter who achieved international fame as the lead guitarist of the Beatles. By 1965 Harrison had begun to lead the other Beatles into folk rock through his interest in the Byrds and Bob Dylan, and towards Indian classical music through his use of the sitar on "Norwegian Wood (This Bird Has Flown)". He developed an interest in the Hare Krishna movement and became an admirer of Indian culture and mysticism, introducing them to the other Beatles and their Western audience. Following the band's break-up in 1970, Harrison released several best-selling singles and albums as a solo performer, and in 1988 co-founded the platinum-selling supergroup the Traveling Wilburys. A prolific recording artist, he was featured as a guest guitarist on tracks by Badfinger, Ronnie Wood and Billy Preston, and collaborated on songs and music with Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton and Tom Petty, among others. He also organized the 1971 Concert for Bangladesh with Ravi Shankar, a precursor to later benefit concerts such as Live Aid. Harrison was also a music and film producer, founding Dark Horse Records in 1974 and co-founding HandMade Films in 1978. (Full article...)
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John: Just wanted to say thanks for your guidance on minor edits. I appreciate it. Will take heed on my future edits on articles. BTW, read your personal philosophy on the argument about the reliability of Wikipedia as a source. For me, I think it's a very hard one to win given that there are some Wikipedia articles that are so poorly written and thee are some that are very well-written. It's all across the board without much in between. I know many professors refuse to allow their students to use Wikipedia as a source since anyone can edit it and therefore, anyone can edit out pertinent information or add erroneous information. For me, I edit Wikipedia articles as a hobby and only when I have the time to do it. I try to help when I have time. Diving in deep to author an article takes a lot of time which I don't often have. So often my edits are really minor, i.e. correcting grammar, spelling, punctuation. What does attract me is the collaboration to contribute human knowledge about a person or any subject. Lightspeedx (talk) 01:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-01T01:42:00.000Z","author":"Lightspeedx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lightspeedx-2013-05-01T01:42:00.000Z-Minor_Edits_Guidance","replies":["c-John-2013-05-01T05:26:00.000Z-Lightspeedx-2013-05-01T01:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
For God of War FAC. --JDC808 ♫ 17:27, 1 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-01T17:27:00.000Z","author":"JDC808","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JDC808-2013-05-01T17:27:00.000Z-Ping","replies":["c-John-2013-05-01T18:15:00.000Z-JDC808-2013-05-01T17:27:00.000Z"]}}-->
With all due respect I did exactly as you asked in raising the issue at Talk:Margaret Thatcher. You never answered my answer question until after I posted additional material and then issued a warring notice? How fair is that?--User:ksk2875 (talk)
Hi John, I am considering creating a page for the Rev. Stuart Campbell. This Scottish journalist was a hero of mine when I was eleven and used to read Amiga Power - a unique and uncompromising computer-game magazine from the early nineties. He was (and probably still is) regarded as the most famous game-reviewer around, known for his creative and often scathing prose. I would need to do some more research to establish the level of his fame in this field though. He has worked for many titles over the years, including the NME, the Grundiad and Total Football (a list). He later went on to work at the famous (to retro gamers) Sensible Software, and he still designs and reviews games. I guess there haven’t been many computergame reviewers in Wikipedia yet, but the plot thickens..
Having only recently got online, I was slightly surprised to find that he is now a prominent figure in the Scottish Independence debate. Apparently his political blog "Wings Over Scotland" recently overtook The Scotsman in readership figures (need proof yet). Researching his output (and the bitter debates) online, I’ve come across new terms like "cybernat" and "unitroll" which aren’t mentioned in WP. It shows how the newspapers are facing increasing competition from the blogosphere .
Pat Kane writes in The Scotsman:
"The well-known cybernat site Wings Over Scotland managed something extraordinary the other week. Through a crowd-funding platform, it raised over £30,000 to support his media monitoring and original reportage (from an independence perspective). Wings’ founder, the Rev Stuart Campbell, has the ambition to create a Daily Record for the Yes campaign. No matter what you think of that goal, it’s a tangible example of how it’s possible for light-cost digital operators, with a clear idea of their community, to successfully appeal to them for financial commitment." 2 April 2013
I think an entry for Rev Stuart Campbell would be ok in terms of notability, but he is a very controversial figure (for many reasons, e.g. this) and I haven’t created a Living Person bio yet. I request your advice in particular because I believe you are from Scotland (?) and you probably know the political scene better, and as a mop-holder you could help me in what might be a tricky article (if done in depth). If you, or any TPSs out there think I shouldn’t bother, or have any advice, then please let me know before I get too into creating this article, as I have others in the pipeline. Cheers. Hillbillyholiday talk 03:28, 7 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-07T03:28:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-05-07T03:28:00.000Z-Cybernats_and_Unitrolls","replies":["c-John-2013-05-07T05:25:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-05-07T03:28:00.000Z","c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-05-09T17:32:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-05-07T03:28:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Hillbillyholiday"}}-->
Okay, if you don't think the article should cite the Daily Mail, that's one thing. But how in the world do you think it helps to remove the Daily Mail citations, while leaving in all the information that was cited to the Daily Mail? I believe I've now removed the information that came from the DM, but I had to make an effort to point out how nonsensical that was. The article has a quote that only appears in the Daily Mail, and cites the Daily Mail for it. You apparently believe the Daily Mail is unreliable, so you take out the citation, so the article just contains the unreliable information and doesn't even show the reader that the source was the Daily Mail. Really? Theoldsparkle (talk) 17:30, 10 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-10T17:30:00.000Z","author":"Theoldsparkle","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Theoldsparkle-2013-05-10T17:30:00.000Z-Your_edits_to_2013_Cleveland,_Ohio,_missing_trio","replies":["c-John-2013-05-10T18:22:00.000Z-Theoldsparkle-2013-05-10T17:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
This is your only warning. Your name was mentioned at WP:ANI. Most of your reverts are nonsense, such as restoring a link to a redirect.[12] Most of the edits were good edits that you are reverting. Apteva (talk) 23:17, 13 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-13T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Apteva","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Apteva-2013-05-13T23:17:00.000Z-ANI_2","replies":["c-John-2013-05-14T05:15:00.000Z-Apteva-2013-05-13T23:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
I note you are seeking to lecture me on wikipedia policy on UK nationalities. You claim to be 'Scottish' so you are certainly not an unbiased judge of Maxwell's nationality! A bit self-righteous, I would say. British as a description is a) correct and b) not at all partisan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.242.36 (talk) 20:25, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-14T20:25:00.000Z","author":"92.20.242.36","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-92.20.242.36-2013-05-14T20:25:00.000Z-Scottish_or_British?","replies":[]}}-->
Just to add the part of the wiki policy on UK nationalities which claims it is not ok to call everyone British is wholly flawed. Who thought this up? It is clearly ideal to describe by default all as British. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.20.242.36 (talk) 20:32, 14 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-14T20:32:00.000Z","author":"92.20.242.36","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-92.20.242.36-2013-05-14T20:32:00.000Z-Scottish_or_British?","replies":["c-John-2013-05-14T21:38:00.000Z-92.20.242.36-2013-05-14T20:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
Just wanted to draw your attention to this article, John. It is getting close to an edit-war, I'm not sure of the ins-and-outs of this one, I just wikilinked User:CaptainCorrecto's contribution. I won't speculate any further on the identity of this newish user, except to say that it looks like he might be "correct" in this case, but doesn't seem to be the sort of person who backs down. Cheers. Hillbillyholiday talk 08:56, 15 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-15T08:56:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-05-15T08:56:00.000Z-2012\u201313_Rangers_F.C._season","replies":["c-John-2013-05-15T11:20:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-05-15T08:56:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Hillbillyholiday"}}-->
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Are you willing to reinstate the deleted threads at the Jimmy Savile article? Feel free to remove lines if you wish, but I think the referenced material is relevant even if somewhat controversial. S. Fight (talk) 13:46, 18 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-18T13:46:00.000Z","author":"S. Fight","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-S._Fight-2013-05-18T13:46:00.000Z-Question_2","replies":["c-John-2013-05-18T14:11:00.000Z-S._Fight-2013-05-18T13:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi. Since you enlightened me at the FAC for Song of Innocence, I was wondering if you could tell me if I'm right regarding the opening statement in this article's section. I've been arguing with another editor that they are synthesizing things from two different sources. Dude's putting doubts in my mind, LOL. Dan56 (talk) 03:16, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-19T03:16:00.000Z","author":"Dan56","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dan56-2013-05-19T03:16:00.000Z-Synthesis","replies":["c-John-2013-05-19T07:08:00.000Z-Dan56-2013-05-19T03:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
Is anything actually going to be done about this issue? I've seen nothing to indicates that USchick has acknowledged that Wikipedia copyright policy has been violated, and the ANI thread is getting nowhere. AndyTheGrump (talk) 15:15, 19 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-19T15:15:00.000Z","author":"AndyTheGrump","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AndyTheGrump-2013-05-19T15:15:00.000Z-USchick_and_copyright","replies":["c-John-2013-05-19T18:10:00.000Z-AndyTheGrump-2013-05-19T15:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
There are several areas of the article which lack citations. Why, did you freeze that page without them? Thank you SpazAbiogenesis (talk) 21:08, 21 May 2013 (UTC) " Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view. We strive for articles that document and explain the major points of view, giving due weight with respect to their prominence in an impartial tone. We avoid advocacy and we characterize information and issues rather than debate them. In some areas there may be just one well-recognized point of view; in others, we describe multiple points of view, presenting each accurately and in context rather than as "the truth" or "the best view". All articles must strive for verifiable accuracy, citing reliable, authoritative sources, especially when the topic is controversial or a living person. Editors' personal experiences, interpretations, or opinions do not belong."[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-21T21:08:00.000Z","author":"SpazAbiogenesis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SpazAbiogenesis-2013-05-21T21:08:00.000Z-Abiogenesis_Article","replies":[]}}-->
Whoever from the Harvard Center for Astrophysics was trying to get citations removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SpazAbiogenesis (talk • contribs)
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The audacity you display in making sweeping bold edits and threatening to block anyone who reverts you but then just ignoring talk page conversations on the topic of the edits is utterly, utterly sickening. I'm sure you'd be quick enough to step back in if someone dared edit the article, but a talk page discussion? I'm sure you've got much more important things to do. J Milburn (talk) 22:36, 22 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-22T22:36:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2013-05-22T22:36:00.000Z-Talk:Connie_Talbot","replies":["c-John-2013-05-23T05:38:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2013-05-22T22:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've offered a proposed solution to this situation. I hope you will find it reasonable and amenable- if so, I'm happy to start working on adjusted the article as soon as we are both ready. (I will be away from Wikipedia shortly, but back online for an hour or two in about six hours, and then will be available at various times tomorrow.) J Milburn (talk) 16:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-23T16:15:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2013-05-23T16:15:00.000Z-Talk:Connie_Talbot","replies":["c-John-2013-05-23T18:41:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2013-05-23T16:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Hello John, seeing as one of your areas of expertise in music and Wikipedia editing, I am reaching out to you to see if you would be able to help me assemble and accurately complete Dumpstaphunk's wikipedia page. I did a significant amount of research about the band and added what I found to: *[13] I am new to Wikipedia editing, but I am eager to learn all I can about how I can add information correctly and accurately. A side-note, I'm a big music enthusiast and have a passion for sharing information about the bands I enjoy. Please let me know how I can further this project along and ensure its longevity in the Wiki-sphere. Thanks so much! -Alex, aka Alwaysnarnar (talk) 00:39, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-25T00:39:00.000Z","author":"Alwaysnarnar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alwaysnarnar-2013-05-25T00:39:00.000Z-Looking_for_help","replies":["c-John-2013-05-25T08:28:00.000Z-Alwaysnarnar-2013-05-25T00:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
If you have time, I'd greatly appreciate a prose review for Conte di Cavour-class battleship which is undergoing a FAC at the moment and has received some complaints about the language used.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:42, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-25T01:42:00.000Z","author":"Sturmvogel 66","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sturmvogel_66-2013-05-25T01:42:00.000Z-Prose_review?","replies":["c-John-2013-05-25T08:26:00.000Z-Sturmvogel_66-2013-05-25T01:42:00.000Z"]}}-->
I did drop a note to that user. To be honest? ... Looks like a WP:CIR issue. Not sure I can help .. I have too much going on now to "teach" anyone. — Ched : ? 04:16, 25 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-25T04:16:00.000Z","author":"Ched","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ched-2013-05-25T04:16:00.000Z-hey","replies":["c-John-2013-05-25T08:25:00.000Z-Ched-2013-05-25T04:16:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Hi. Regarding your removal of the wikilinks to the words "English" and "New Zealand" in the Tauriel article here and here, and your stated rationale in your edit summary that this is supported by WP:OVERLINK, that part of MoS states that generally, a link should appear only once in an article after the Lead section (excepting infoboxes, tables, captions, and footnotes). Those two wikilinks are the only wikilinks of those two words in the article, so it does not constitute overlinking. If you disagree, please let me know your viewpoint. Thanks. Nightscream (talk) 15:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-27T15:52:00.000Z","author":"Nightscream","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nightscream-2013-05-27T15:52:00.000Z-Tauriel_and_WP:OVERLINK","replies":["c-Bbb23-2013-05-27T16:02:00.000Z-Nightscream-2013-05-27T15:52:00.000Z"]}}-->
"Ach, who needs a fancy barometer?" -- Hillbillyholiday talk 08:55, 1 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-01T08:55:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-06-01T08:55:00.000Z-Thought_this_might_appeal","replies":["c-John-2013-06-01T09:30:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-06-01T08:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Hillbillyholiday"}}-->
You are not a real person! Beep boo-dee-beep. :P Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 10:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-04T10:18:00.000Z","author":"Evanh2008","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Evanh2008-2013-06-04T10:18:00.000Z-I'm_afraid_your_secret_is_out","replies":["c-John-2013-06-04T11:03:00.000Z-Evanh2008-2013-06-04T10:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
Is probably about ready for thinking about FAC.. might I persuade you to copyedit it for me? (I'll beg Eric also... best get all the help I can ...) Ealdgyth - Talk 22:09, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-05T22:09:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2013-06-05T22:09:00.000Z-Norman_conquest_of_England_...","replies":["c-John-2013-06-06T19:17:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-06-05T22:09:00.000Z","c-Ealdgyth-2013-06-11T13:51:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-06-05T22:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
see Talk page for Stephen Crane - 108.54.62.155 (talk) 22:26, 5 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-05T22:26:00.000Z","author":"108.54.62.155","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-108.54.62.155-2013-06-05T22:26:00.000Z-you_reverted-ish_part_of_my_change,_but_you_were_wrong","replies":["c-John-2013-06-05T22:44:00.000Z-108.54.62.155-2013-06-05T22:26:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi, this is to let everyone who commented in the last RM know that there's another RM/RfC here, in case you'd like to comment again. Best, SlimVirgin (talk) 19:14, 6 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-06T19:14:00.000Z","author":"SlimVirgin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SlimVirgin-2013-06-06T19:14:00.000Z-RfC_on_title_of_Sarah_Brown_(wife_of_Gordon_Brown)","replies":[]}}-->
As an administrator you should be aware of a few things. One of them is that consensus changes. Another is that re-adding a change to an article purely on the basis of a consensus that hasn't been evident on the page for two years, isn't on the talk page, or evident in its archives, and isn't evident on the other relevant article, isn't good enough. To compound that by refusing to enter into discussion of your edit is simply not good enough. Could you be good enough to show me where this alleged consensus was established, and why it should be reintroduced without question after being discarded some while back? --Escape Orbit (Talk) 21:20, 11 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-11T21:20:00.000Z","author":"Escape Orbit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Escape_Orbit-2013-06-11T21:20:00.000Z-Celtic","replies":["c-John-2013-06-11T21:22:00.000Z-Escape_Orbit-2013-06-11T21:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
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I like the link you just added to your user page; very apposite given recent events. As I recall, our own early interactions were a little frosty, but we seem to have got over that now. Why so many seem to find it impossible to understand that reasonable people can reasonably disagree will remain a mystery to me for ever. Eric Corbett 21:55, 18 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-18T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Eric Corbett","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eric_Corbett-2013-06-18T21:55:00.000Z-Nice","replies":["c-John-2013-06-18T21:59:00.000Z-Eric_Corbett-2013-06-18T21:55:00.000Z","c-Maunus-2013-06-19T22:18:00.000Z-Eric_Corbett-2013-06-18T21:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Eric"}}-->
Hi John. Thought you might get a kick out of this. Serious stuff. Ceoil (talk) 20:18, 20 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-20T20:18:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceoil-2013-06-20T20:18:00.000Z-The_lines_are_drawn","replies":["c-John-2013-06-20T20:24:00.000Z-Ceoil-2013-06-20T20:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John. I see that your recent edit has reintroduced into the article the name of the pupil (victim) in the recent court case, by way of the old Telegraph article title cite. Just wanted to make sure you realise there is a possiblility, if you live in the UK, that you've broken the court no-disclosure order, or possibly section 1 (Anonymity of victims of certain offences) of the Sexual Offences (Amendment) Act 1992. This law is hard to understand, and quite possibly you would be OK and only the publisher (Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.) could be prosecuted, which would be impractical - but I personally would not take that chance without some high-quality legal guidance to that effect. You might want to undo your change of cite. This is being discussed and voted on in Talk:Bishop Bell School#RfC: Should the pupil's name be included in the Wikipedia article?. Rwendland (talk) 09:58, 23 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-23T09:58:00.000Z","author":"Rwendland","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rwendland-2013-06-23T09:58:00.000Z-Bishop_Bell_School","replies":["c-John-2013-06-23T10:08:00.000Z-Rwendland-2013-06-23T09:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
Since you have over 100 edits at Charles Dickens and John Steinbeck, you might want to participate in the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Novels#Derivative_works_and_cultural_references_templates regarding including navigation boxes for adaptations of and related subjects to an authors works on the author's bio page.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 16:13, 25 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-25T16:13:00.000Z","author":"TonyTheTiger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TonyTheTiger-2013-06-25T16:13:00.000Z-Navboxes_on_author_pages","replies":[]}}-->
Your name on Wikipedia is John? Seriously? How much did you pay Jimbo Wales for that? Tehehehe --Rorre09 (talk) 20:14, 27 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-27T20:14:00.000Z","author":"Rorre09","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rorre09-2013-06-27T20:14:00.000Z-John","replies":["c-John-2013-06-27T20:16:00.000Z-Rorre09-2013-06-27T20:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
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In clean-ups of seven entries for books in the Cadfael Chronicles, the description of what you did included the term "deflag". The link from deflag seems to mean something about flags and icons. More to the point, when I looked at before/after versions of the articles, I saw no change that seemed to relate to flags or icons. I am trying to learn in my slow way -- is deflag a standard part of your edit message line? Your descriptions of what you cleaned up are precise, as to overlinking, for example. What am I missing?
Thanks for cleaning up the articles, and for upgrading The Heretic's Apprentice from has no citations, to needs more citations, now it has a list of them. The article needs a publication history, which will be done soon (this summer), along with four other of the books in the series, which I am re-reading in order. What more do you feel is needed in the way of citations? Again, asking for my education. Perhaps now I have figured out when the leading zero is wanted in a date, and when it is not. Not wanted in 5 May 2013 but is wanted in 2013-06-21. I did a bunch of the latter incorrectly in access dates, in June, sorry.
I will watch your page so you can post replies here.Prairieplant (talk) 17:33, 28 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-28T17:33:00.000Z","author":"Prairieplant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Prairieplant-2013-06-28T17:33:00.000Z-Deflag_means_what?","replies":["c-John-2013-06-28T17:37:00.000Z-Prairieplant-2013-06-28T17:33:00.000Z"]}}-->
John -- will you see archived copy? I am still interested to know what more you think is needed for The Heretic's Apprentice as to citations. You changed message on it from has none, to needs more. The entry lacks Publication History. Perhaps you had something specific in mind? Prairieplant (talk) 05:09, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-02T05:09:00.000Z","author":"Prairieplant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Prairieplant-2013-07-02T05:09:00.000Z-Deflag_means_what?","replies":[]}}-->
Hi John, quick one, I didn't see an WP:EXPLAINBLOCK on User talk:Imgaril (or linking which accounts, so possibly the other accounts I didn't check). Thanks Widefox; talk 11:36, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-02T11:36:00.000Z","author":"Widefox","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Widefox-2013-07-02T11:36:00.000Z-Quick_one","replies":["c-John-2013-07-02T11:42:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-07-02T11:36:00.000Z","c-John-2013-07-02T13:56:00.000Z-Widefox-2013-07-02T11:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
I think it is coming back to me now.
were all blocked by me within a short period on 8 March 2012. I think it was a case of WP:DUCK and I seem to recall Black Kite (talk · contribs · blocks · protections · deletions · page moves · rights · RfA) may also have been involved. I really should have made a note in the block log as I honestly cannot now recall what he exact issue was. I can dig further for you or ping Black Kite if you like. --John (talk) 14:03, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-02T14:03:00.000Z","author":"John","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John-2013-07-02T14:03:00.000Z-Quick_one","replies":["c-Widefox-2013-07-02T15:41:00.000Z-John-2013-07-02T14:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John. In Schneider CA1 you made some changes of a stylistic nature — and some changes in content. I disagree with some of the stylistic changes, but I can live with them; they are largely a matter of taste. The changes in content I corrected as they contradicted or incorrectly reflected the sources, explaining why they were incorrect. You then, without explanation, again returned them to their factually incorrect state. Might all this be resolved by me accepting your stylistic changes, and you accepting that, even if they are stylistically awkward, my representations of the sources are to be preferred, as I have actually read them? ;o)
Kind regards, --MWAK (talk) 12:36, 2 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-02T12:36:00.000Z","author":"MWAK","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MWAK-2013-07-02T12:36:00.000Z-Schneider_CA1","replies":["c-John-2013-07-02T12:42:00.000Z-MWAK-2013-07-02T12:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hey, John. Please could you have a quick look at Sally Bercow's article. (Talkpage discussion) I removed some Daily Mail citations, and have been reverted a couple of times and accused of vandalism. I'm not sure on the reliability of the other publications, but I did notice the article also has IMDb as a reference. Also, can you point me to where it says for definite that the Daily Mail is not acceptable for BLPs? Cheers. -- Hillbillyholiday talk 17:52, 3 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-03T17:52:00.000Z","author":"Hillbillyholiday81","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-07-03T17:52:00.000Z-Sally_Bercow","replies":["c-John-2013-07-03T20:23:00.000Z-Hillbillyholiday81-2013-07-03T17:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Hillbillyholiday"}}-->
John, the ping you asked for -- what further citations would lead you to find the article satisfactory in that regard, to remove the tag about needing more citations? You changed the tag from 'has none' to 'needs more'. Thanks! Prairieplant (talk) 04:22, 4 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-04T04:22:00.000Z","author":"Prairieplant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Prairieplant-2013-07-04T04:22:00.000Z-The_Heretic's_Apprentice_by_Ellis_Peters","replies":["c-John-2013-07-04T08:12:00.000Z-Prairieplant-2013-07-04T04:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
All help is welcome. I am re-reading the series, working on the articles as I finish each book. I still have three books to read before I reach The Heretic's Apprentice and all its heresies and its mystery to be solved. I hope the part on Pilgrims and monasteries is adequately referenced. I learned a lot with that section, enhancing the book and my general knowledge. It will help me when my local library again subscribes to ProQuest, so I can see more of the non-blog commentary on the books.Prairieplant (talk) 11:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-05T11:24:00.000Z","author":"Prairieplant","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Prairieplant-2013-07-05T11:24:00.000Z-The_Heretic's_Apprentice_by_Ellis_Peters","replies":[]}}-->
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If participants in a debate were allowed to unilaterally undo the closings of discussions where they disagree with the result, anarchy would result. Your unclosing has been reverted, and please do not do that again without discussing it. Sjakkalle (Check!) 09:14, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-05T09:14:00.000Z","author":"Sjakkalle","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sjakkalle-2013-07-05T09:14:00.000Z-Do_not_unilaterally_unclose_discussions","replies":["c-John-2013-07-05T09:16:00.000Z-Sjakkalle-2013-07-05T09:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
Although we appear to have more similar than dissimilar views on the matter, I have just referenced one of your remarks at AN as a bad example. It happened to be the one that jumped out at me, for which I apologise. --Yngvadottir (talk) 12:24, 5 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-05T12:24:00.000Z","author":"Yngvadottir","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yngvadottir-2013-07-05T12:24:00.000Z-Letting_you_know_....","replies":["c-John-2013-07-05T16:15:00.000Z-Yngvadottir-2013-07-05T12:24:00.000Z","c-Martinp-2013-07-05T17:40:00.000Z-Yngvadottir-2013-07-05T12:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
Talk:Ecgbert (bishop)/GA1 - I'm not sure what is confusing to this reviewer ... can you look over it and see if I'm like insane or if I've really dropped the ball... Ealdgyth - Talk 16:52, 9 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-09T16:52:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2013-07-09T16:52:00.000Z-A_bit_confused...","replies":["c-John-2013-07-10T00:18:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-07-09T16:52:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm curious about the reversion of the change I made to the Alan Carr page. I added an "In popular culture" section referencing Francine Lewis' impression of Alan during her performance in the seventh season of Britain's Got Talent. This is described in the article on her that describes her appearance on the show. I did include internal Wikipedia links to Francine's page and the Britain's Got Talent (season 7) pages, which mention her appearances on that program. Did I need an external reference in order for my addition to the ballot, or was there something else?
I haven't been doing edits on Wikipedia for all that long, so it is quite likely that I got something wrong. I, too, am A Bear of Very Little Brain, and would be happy to learn that I should be doing. /Bruce/ [aka Slasher] 23:38, 19 July 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucewh (talk • contribs)
I was just finishing up the final run through ... did not mean to conflict with you! I thought I'd make a run through for season issues and make sure that fyrd and housecarl were properly consistent. Now I can start begging for a copyedit to Battle of Hastings! Ealdgyth - Talk 00:14, 20 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-20T00:14:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2013-07-20T00:14:00.000Z-Sorry!","replies":["c-John-2013-07-20T00:20:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-07-20T00:14:00.000Z","c-John-2013-07-23T21:34:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-07-20T00:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
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Thank you so much for uploading that file to Ulster Defence Regiment. I opposed its removal by a copyright editor on the grounds that we need to show opposition to the regiment in addition to the other history to balance NPOV. The discussion regarding the removal is here Wikipedia:Non-free_content_review#Ulster_Defence_Regiment. There are several other files under discussion including another political poster called File:Bloodmoney Poster.jpg which I think should also be restored to the "Political comments" section. I don't want to do it myself because I got into trouble when I last did. I was accused of trying to flaunt copyright rules but the copyright editors don't seem to mind you adding the first image so presumably they'll let you add the second one as well? SonofSetanta (talk) 15:03, 22 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-22T15:03:00.000Z","author":"SonofSetanta","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SonofSetanta-2013-07-22T15:03:00.000Z-Orphaned_non-free_media_(File:UDR_political_poster.jpg)","replies":["c-John-2013-07-22T20:22:00.000Z-SonofSetanta-2013-07-22T15:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
Please come to Talk:Asiana_Airlines_Flight_214#Criticism_of_NTSB_by_ALPA to discuss encyclopedic value of ALPA's early criticism of NTSB for fueling speculation. 75.208.105.97 (talk) 19:07, 23 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-23T19:07:00.000Z","author":"75.208.105.97","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-75.208.105.97-2013-07-23T19:07:00.000Z-Asiana_Flight_214_\/_Criticism_of_NTSB_by_ALPA","replies":[]}}-->
Hi John
Thank you very much for your help. I just wanted to know as well if the source from the blog on this page is a reliable?
Kind Regards
Hopes — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fatherhope55 (talk • contribs) 09:43, 26 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-26T09:43:00.000Z","author":"Fatherhope55","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fatherhope55-2013-07-26T09:43:00.000Z-David_Rowland","replies":["c-John-2013-07-26T09:51:00.000Z-Fatherhope55-2013-07-26T09:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
"someone like you who does not contribute content and can barely speak the language" is insulting, untrue, and totally uncalled for. The rest of your rant was completely off base as well. One User:Sjakkalle is worth a hundred of you. Quale (talk) 02:24, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-28T02:24:00.000Z","author":"Quale","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Quale-2013-07-28T02:24:00.000Z-Your_comment_at_User:Sjakkalle","replies":["c-John-2013-07-28T19:30:00.000Z-Quale-2013-07-28T02:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
I am sorry to say that after a brief respite that his/her antics are continuing. Let me know if you want diffs. Ben MacDui 08:40, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-28T08:40:00.000Z","author":"Ben MacDui","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ben_MacDui-2013-07-28T08:40:00.000Z-Scotire","replies":["c-John-2013-07-28T19:32:00.000Z-Ben_MacDui-2013-07-28T08:40:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Ben"}}-->
One of my FAC reviewers at HMS Warrior (1860) has requested a thorough copyedit. I'd be grateful if you have the time to help me out. I still need to expand the sections on the restoration, so you can stop there until I get a chance to get to that later this week.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 15:38, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-30T15:38:00.000Z","author":"Sturmvogel 66","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sturmvogel_66-2013-07-30T15:38:00.000Z-Request_for_copyedit","replies":["c-John-2013-07-30T17:22:00.000Z-Sturmvogel_66-2013-07-30T15:38:00.000Z","c-John-2013-07-31T08:31:00.000Z-Sturmvogel_66-2013-07-30T15:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
The next article that's aimed at FAC is an obscure bad boy abbot - Roger Norreis. This may have more questions from you as it's more specialized... if there are things you don't understand - feel free to query on the talk page. I actually love having non-specialists look these things over so I don't use too much jargon. Ealdgyth - Talk 19:39, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-02T19:39:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2013-08-02T19:39:00.000Z-If_you're_bored...","replies":["c-John-2013-08-02T19:41:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-08-02T19:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'd say it looks ok now for prose. I am not qualified to say anything about completeness. --John (talk) 12:59, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-13T12:59:00.000Z","author":"John","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John-2013-08-13T12:59:00.000Z-If_you're_bored...","replies":[]}}-->
Hi John. I'm a blocked editor looking for an unblock. Maybe you can help me out. I come to you semi-randomly I think, I'd noticed your edits here and there and you seemed to me, maybe in part from your user ID, someone who'd been editing a long time. Here's my situation. I edited for years, the vast majority on articles as opposed to policy and the administrative forums. I had a pitched debate now and then on some of the articles I worked on, but was never blocked, or warned, or "sanctioned" (in fact I didn't even know what that was for the longest time, I also didn't know what "Arbcom" was).
This is not my original Wikipedia account. What happened was my online privacy concerns were aroused in part when a fellow editor "investigated" me for WP:COI. He Googled me repetitively from clues in my user ID and edit history, posted my real name, etc. He demonstrated my indirect relationship to the subject but not any COI. It was an "aha!" moment without anything to "aha!" about. It was what is now called WP:OUTING. I later conscientiously [16] abandoned my old Wikipedia ID and switched to a new: "Colton Cosmic."
A month or so thereafter I was no warn/no discussion/no diff indefinitely blocked by Timotheus Canens, the May before last[17]. He tracked me there from a drama board and a button click at his Twinkle toolkit or whatever generated a link to WP:SOCK and I was banished forever. I was insulted, felt that when you call someone a sock you question his honesty. I was further ticked off that Timotheus deigned not to even discuss the matter (which of course is called for by WP:ADMIN). I handled my appeal poorly I'll admit, these are skilled blockers and I was a newbie blockee, plus the WP:AN/ANI crowd descended and started pushing me around. There were four or five of them.
I have block-evaded via raw IP edits to try to get my account back. I've identified myself clearly in these edits, i.e. not "socked." I feel I was left no choice but to block evade. Bureaucrat Nihonjoe unblocked me[18] providing a thoughtful explanation. This was then overturned by WP:AN/ANI, though there's no basis in policy for that. WP:APPEAL does not accord supremacy on unblocks to WP:AN/ANI. It was a calculated move by some administrative participant who watchlisted my talkpage: Nihonjoe unblocks, so within 15 minutes whoever it was tattled to WP:ANI, sits back with his popcorn, knowing full well that the lowest common denominator there was going to reblock [19].
What else do you need to know to decide about me? On one thing you may rely: I'm blocked for socking, but never did it. When (if?) you research my case do not take the accusations made at me as fact. Don't let suspicion override the need for evidence. I'm currently told my appeal avenues are WP:UTRS and WP:BASC. WP:UTRS is dangerous to one's personal online security because it fingerprints one's computer and IP and makes that available to potentially any Wikipedia administrator. My blocker Timotheus Canens sits on the three member panel that is WP:BASC and refuses to recuse, as well WP:BASC literally rejects more than 9 of 10 appeals. You don't need to get wrapped up in policy to recognize the fundamental unfairness of this. There has never been any evidence presented that I socked. Silktork demanded I hand over my previous account, so he could checkuser it to see what he could see, I said paraphrase "no, my online privacy and WP:CLEANSTART specifically says I don't have to do that." Arbcom turned me down without explanation, but also said it has "no monopoly on block appeals." So you're within your rights to unblock, but fair warning: I have amassed, wholly against my will, a good number of block-loving admins as my "fans," mainly the WP:AN/ANI crowd. They track me when they can, they watchlist my talkpage and react in minutes, and after all I've been through, it's fair of me to describe them as "haters." No evidence ever but my block persists and they'll enforce it. FAIR WARNING: If you help me, they will come at you, like they did at Nihonjoe.
John, please don't just reject me out of hand. You notice an edit of mine that troubles you, let's talk about it. Unblock me from my talkpage only, I'll answer any questions. I've edited nearly as long as you and I really feel I've received shabby treatment from a lot of arrogant admins who've contributed to Wikipedia a mere fraction of what I have. What will I do if unblocked? I always edited regular articles and I suppose I'd always will, but all this has called my attention to trying to streamline and improve policy, examples of what I'd like to do here[20][21]. This is Colton Cosmic.
I'm afraid User:Scotire has come out of their block and re-commenced the same pattern of advocacy editing ([27] and [28]). Mutt Lunker (talk) 10:36, 6 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-06T10:36:00.000Z","author":"Mutt Lunker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mutt_Lunker-2013-08-06T10:36:00.000Z-Scotire_2","replies":["c-John-2013-08-06T11:46:00.000Z-Mutt_Lunker-2013-08-06T10:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
He's back, having learned nothing: [29] Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-21T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Mutt Lunker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mutt_Lunker-2013-08-21T21:48:00.000Z-Scotire_2","replies":["c-John-2013-08-21T21:58:00.000Z-Mutt_Lunker-2013-08-21T21:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, please note this user is also contributing in a similarly manner on Commons - where he has been continually editing throughout the blocks you imposed here. Hasn't received any blocks there yet, but there is an AN thread there. I will give you fuller details in morning but for now I'll quote from his Commons user talk:
I have been blocked from using wikipedia because I said that Cullen is in Banffshire. This is my protest, because as you all well know that Cullen is in Banffshire. I will contact the Banffshire Newspapers and papers in the United Kingdom about this matter. I will also contact the Members of Parliament especially the Member of Parliament who represents Banffshire. I will contact the Lord Lieutenant of Banffshire about this matter. I will contact the Banffshire Community Councils to notify them of Wikimedia's actions. I will contact the Members on the Moray Council who were voted in by residents in Banffshire. Scotire (talk) 01:18, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
Sound like fun to me :)--Nilfanion (talk) 01:34, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-22T01:34:00.000Z","author":"Nilfanion","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nilfanion-2013-08-22T01:34:00.000Z-Scotire_2","replies":["c-John-2013-08-22T05:30:00.000Z-Nilfanion-2013-08-22T01:34:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nilf"}}-->
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You make a good job on RfA with your constant opposes to candidates who make more socializing than actual work. Unfortunately you did not comment my RfA (talk) in any way, but I’ll appreciate any your comment in any other place. Incnis Mrsi (talk) 11:08, 8 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-08T11:08:00.000Z","author":"Incnis Mrsi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Incnis_Mrsi-2013-08-08T11:08:00.000Z-Good_job","replies":["c-John-2013-08-08T12:17:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2013-08-08T11:08:00.000Z","c-Incnis_Mrsi-2013-08-08T13:49:00.000Z-Incnis_Mrsi-2013-08-08T11:08:00.000Z"]}}-->
You blocked the user for NFC violations however their only edit was [30] with a rather crude summary, and I received a nasty email which was almost all personal attacks and insults. If you wish I can forward it to you. However I really think the user in question needs to have their attitude adjusted or they should probably no longer edit. Werieth (talk) 22:01, 9 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-09T22:01:00.000Z","author":"Werieth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Werieth-2013-08-09T22:01:00.000Z-EnglishEfternamn","replies":["c-John-2013-08-11T08:50:00.000Z-Werieth-2013-08-09T22:01:00.000Z"]}}-->
I was wondering if I have addressed your concerns for this FAC.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 01:12, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-11T01:12:00.000Z","author":"TonyTheTiger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TonyTheTiger-2013-08-11T01:12:00.000Z-Whaam!_FAC","replies":["c-John-2013-08-11T09:09:00.000Z-TonyTheTiger-2013-08-11T01:12:00.000Z","c-John-2013-08-12T05:52:00.000Z-TonyTheTiger-2013-08-11T01:12:00.000Z"]}}-->
I know you are a busy man, but if you can find the time I would greatly appreciate a few edits/comments at Ringo Starr, currently at FAC. Cheers! GabeMc (talk|contribs) 21:24, 11 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-11T21:24:00.000Z","author":"GabeMc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GabeMc-2013-08-11T21:24:00.000Z-Copyedit\/comment_request","replies":["c-John-2013-08-11T22:51:00.000Z-GabeMc-2013-08-11T21:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
Since you voiced an opinion at FAC1, I am notifying you of Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Whaam!/archive2.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/WP:FOUR/WP:CHICAGO/WP:WAWARD) 17:52, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-13T17:52:00.000Z","author":"TonyTheTiger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TonyTheTiger-2013-08-13T17:52:00.000Z-Wikipedia:Featured_article_candidates\/Whaam!\/archive2","replies":["c-John-2013-08-13T17:53:00.000Z-TonyTheTiger-2013-08-13T17:52:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello, you hear [taɪ̯t] or [tʌɪ̯t] ? 198.105.98.253 (talk) 20:44, 13 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-13T20:44:00.000Z","author":"198.105.98.253","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-198.105.98.253-2013-08-13T20:44:00.000Z-t\u00eate","replies":["c-John-2013-08-14T05:33:00.000Z-198.105.98.253-2013-08-13T20:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, it's my first wikipedia edit so I'm happy to get any feedback or advice, I did put in the reference to my change which came from "The Daily Mail" which I will gladly admit is not the most reliable of publications. However in this case, for a change, they did include at least the suggestion of explanations other than an unproven, medically unexplained and scientifically irreproducible phenomena, "The Times of India" failed in this case. I don't see why we wouldn't include suggested alternative explanations especially when talking about questionable science like Spontaneous Human Combustion. Nuclearfirecracker (talk) 06:57, 14 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-14T06:57:00.000Z","author":"Nuclearfirecracker","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nuclearfirecracker-2013-08-14T06:57:00.000Z-Change_to_Spontaneous_Human_Combustion","replies":["c-John-2013-08-14T08:22:00.000Z-Nuclearfirecracker-2013-08-14T06:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Please don't do this again. I don't know exactly what the source of this communication from Colton Cosmic was, but I have been putting effort into getting his block evasion to stop. Aiding him by posting his material for him doesn't help.—Kww(talk) 06:27, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-15T06:27:00.000Z","author":"Kww","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kww-2013-08-15T06:27:00.000Z-Proxying","replies":["c-John-2013-08-15T10:43:00.000Z-Kww-2013-08-15T06:27:00.000Z","c-Eric_Corbett-2013-08-15T11:02:00.000Z-Kww-2013-08-15T06:27:00.000Z"]}}-->
You hear [tãpeɪ̯t] or [tãpaɪ̯t] ? 198.105.112.58 (talk) 15:15, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-15T15:15:00.000Z","author":"198.105.112.58","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-198.105.112.58-2013-08-15T15:15:00.000Z-temp\u00eate","replies":["c-John-2013-08-15T16:01:00.000Z-198.105.112.58-2013-08-15T15:15:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, I was wondering, off my own bat, there is a dicussion going on at IMOS about clarity for the different periods of Irish history and how it could be linked. As I know you are quite fimilar with ovelinking and linking I was hoping maybe as a new pair of eyes you would see any faults or the like. If you could bud, thanks. Murry1975 (talk) 19:09, 15 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-15T19:09:00.000Z","author":"Murry1975","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Murry1975-2013-08-15T19:09:00.000Z-Outside_help_needed_(IMO)","replies":["c-John-2013-08-15T19:23:00.000Z-Murry1975-2013-08-15T19:09:00.000Z","c-John-2013-08-16T05:57:00.000Z-Murry1975-2013-08-15T19:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
You hear [ivɛːʁ] or [ivaɛ̯ʁ] ? 198.105.114.41 (talk) 21:27, 16 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-16T21:27:00.000Z","author":"198.105.114.41","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-198.105.114.41-2013-08-16T21:27:00.000Z-hiver","replies":["c-John-2013-08-16T22:26:00.000Z-198.105.114.41-2013-08-16T21:27:00.000Z"]}}-->
I appreciate your work on the article, but I just saw a delegate's comment that he didn't see a clear consensus to promote, so I'm hoping that you might be willing to formally support, if only on the prose, so we can put this puppy to bed after all this work. If not, then I'd hope that you could identify any remaining issues that should be addressed.--Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 01:23, 17 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-17T01:23:00.000Z","author":"Sturmvogel 66","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sturmvogel_66-2013-08-17T01:23:00.000Z-HMS_Warrior_FAC","replies":["c-John-2013-08-17T09:58:00.000Z-Sturmvogel_66-2013-08-17T01:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
Take away his talk page access, please.—Ryulong (琉竜) 04:53, 19 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-19T04:53:00.000Z","author":"Ryulong","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ryulong-2013-08-19T04:53:00.000Z-99.251.120.60","replies":["c-John-2013-08-19T05:26:00.000Z-Ryulong-2013-08-19T04:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks for adding the Secularism in Scotland category to the page. I had a note/link on the talk page that I am doing a rewrite of that page (currently being proofread and pending approval of a photo)and will add the category there too. Joolzzt (talk) 02:28, 21 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-21T02:28:00.000Z","author":"Joolzzt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Joolzzt-2013-08-21T02:28:00.000Z-Edinburgh_Skeptics","replies":["c-John-2013-08-21T05:22:00.000Z-Joolzzt-2013-08-21T02:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
And User talk:Ealdgyth#Thoroughbred. The information is sourced in the body - with usage, which means that the lead should reflect the body of the article. I love how I'm being accused of vandalism. Ealdgyth - Talk 14:28, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-22T14:28:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2013-08-22T14:28:00.000Z-Thoroughbred...","replies":["c-John-2013-08-22T16:07:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-08-22T14:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
A few FYIs regarding this user:
The last of these is particularly worrying, as I expect there are many more affecting many articles. Do you have any idea on the correct process to follow?--Nilfanion (talk) 22:43, 3 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-03T22:43:00.000Z","author":"Nilfanion","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nilfanion-2013-09-03T22:43:00.000Z-Scotire_3","replies":["c-John-2013-09-04T05:38:00.000Z-Nilfanion-2013-09-03T22:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Nilf"}}-->
I am attempting to follow the debate on the removal of categories referring to Scottish 'shires'. The term 'shire' is in common use in Scotland. I understand that the Post Office no longer uses that element in an address, and that Scottish Council areas are an administrative delineation, but shires do still exist. There are at least ten Scottish Westminster constituencies which are shires.
Who has made the decision to make these changes? And where can I find that recorded?Shipsview (talk) 09:27, 5 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-05T09:27:00.000Z","author":"Shipsview","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shipsview-2013-09-05T09:27:00.000Z-Shires_of_Scotland","replies":["c-John-2013-09-05T13:51:00.000Z-Shipsview-2013-09-05T09:27:00.000Z"]}}-->
http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/obsolescent gives a definition inconsistant with usage in warrior article , surely one must be incorrect ? 78.105.186.64 (talk) 21:01, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-07T21:01:00.000Z","author":"78.105.186.64","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-78.105.186.64-2013-09-07T21:01:00.000Z-obsolescent_\/_obsolete","replies":["c-John-2013-09-07T21:08:00.000Z-78.105.186.64-2013-09-07T21:01:00.000Z"]}}-->
What are your thoughts on this closure? GabeMc (talk|contribs) 19:44, 14 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-14T19:44:00.000Z","author":"GabeMc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GabeMc-2013-09-14T19:44:00.000Z-What_do_you_think_of_this?","replies":["c-John-2013-09-15T22:07:00.000Z-GabeMc-2013-09-14T19:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
Before you claim a WP:BLP exemption, please note "[w]hat counts as exempt under BLP can be controversial. Consider reporting to the BLP noticeboard instead of relying on this exemption." Neither the BLP board or ANI have given any indication your actions are exempt from WP:3RR. --NeilN talk to me 23:39, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-15T23:39:00.000Z","author":"NeilN","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NeilN-2013-09-15T23:39:00.000Z-WP:3RR_warning_on_Brad_Pitt","replies":["c-John-2013-09-16T05:27:00.000Z-NeilN-2013-09-15T23:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've just spent a wet Sunday trying to improve Shoah (film) only to see a lot of it undone. I wonder if I could trouble you for your opinion whether the article was better before or after [31]. I am a slow editor and reluctant to throw good time after bad, but if you think it was better before, I am prepared to have a go at defending my edits per BRD. Thanks. TwoTwoHello (talk) 23:41, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-15T23:41:00.000Z","author":"TwoTwoHello","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TwoTwoHello-2013-09-15T23:41:00.000Z-Shoah_(film)","replies":["c-John-2013-09-16T05:30:00.000Z-TwoTwoHello-2013-09-15T23:41:00.000Z"]}}-->
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A couple of weeks ago you blocked user Y45ed for genre warring. Just wanted to let you know that he/she is at it again. ChakaKongLet's talk about it 01:35, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-18T01:35:00.000Z","author":"ChakaKong","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChakaKong-2013-09-18T01:35:00.000Z-user:_Y45ed","replies":["c-John-2013-09-18T06:58:00.000Z-ChakaKong-2013-09-18T01:35:00.000Z"]}}-->
You obviously don't have to answer this, but it would be a kindness if you're willing to, and would help me personally in getting a better picture of you as an editor: what's your class background? For instance, what's your profession, to what level were you educated and where, what were your parents or guardians professions, that sort of thing. Thanks! Herostratus (talk) 14:52, 18 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-18T14:52:00.000Z","author":"Herostratus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Herostratus-2013-09-18T14:52:00.000Z-Question_3","replies":["c-John-2013-09-19T05:21:00.000Z-Herostratus-2013-09-18T14:52:00.000Z"]}}-->
Here's why I asked. Sorry this is so long, but there's a lot to think about here. I was pondering the recent contretemps re People magazine and the New York Daily News and so on. I'm sure you're thoroughly tired of the subject and I don't want to pile on, and I'm not personally invested in the answers to those questions, but I am personally invested in User:Flyer22. As founder of WP:PAW, I need her, and was disheartened by this edit at Talk:Pedophilia where User:Flyer22 said "On second thought, I'm taking this article off my WP:Watchlist for now, and for the first time ever. I have too many other things, including stressful things with regard to Wikipedia, to have to worry about... Have a blast."
Among the many useful tasks User:Flyer22 performs here is watching and engaging on articles like Pedophilia and related articles. In a nutshell, we're contending with the sort of editor who wants include material such as "However, some researchers contend that sexual experience even at a very young age, if done with care and mutual consent, can be harmless or even healthy [cite] [cite [cite]". As you might imagine, these people can be well-versed in obscure literature on the subject and on Wikipedia policies and guidelines, tireless, and of course careful to use language much more subtle that the example I give. Contending with this sort of thing is stressful and unpleasing for a number of reasons, and there're not many editors willing to do it who have the requisite learning, intellectual chops, and patience to do it well.
User:Flyer22's one, so you can see why her expressed retreat from that article due to "other things, including stressful things with regard to Wikipedia" troubled me and prompted me to look into that, and so I found this. In all candor, I have to say that that was a spectacularly bad edit. It's OK, we all make a lot of edits, and some of them are going to be bad edits. I know I make plenty of bad edits. The thing then is to move forward, be big enough to admit the mistake, and make corrections.
Drilling down into the situation, I found a great deal of contention re People and the New York Daily News. I didn't read everything in detail, but I see where you (understandably, we're only human) got your back up quite a bit. Argument here is often contentious and stressful and taking fixed positions comes naturally and can be functional, but consider. Your position seemed to me fairly idiosyncratic. As the author of Wikipedia:Reliable sources checklist (check it out -- I'm a bit proud of it) I have thought about these things a little bit, and I'm not seeing your argument as the stronger, and certainly not incontrovertibly the stronger.
OK, so anyway, I guess we don't agree about the veracity of the New York Daily News and People, and you've been pretty vociferous about that -- "not on my watch" and so on. This would not be my concern, except for the collateral damage described above, which makes it my concern. So, wondering about that, I tried to form a picture in my head of just what's going on here. Let's drill down through this together.
The New York Daily News is a working man's paper. It's the kind of paper you'll find discarded on the subway, and maybe with grimy fingerprints at that. That's a data point, but in and of itself it's a minor point re reliability. It's a minor point because in my experience working people want the facts they read to be correct as much as anyone else. (People's pitched more to the lower middle class, but "the sort of person who reads People magazine" is also a construction that most people would "get".)
I realize you don't believe in class, but that also is pretty idiosyncratic, and I'm only going to allow you one idiosyncratic position today =). That social mileu and so forth influences our attitudes is pretty established, I'd say. I believe -- along with, I think, most everyone else who's thought about it -- that social class (along with many other things) influences our thinking, often in ways we're not aware of. In fact I'm confident of it.
Anyway, assuming that I (and essentially everyone else) is correct about that, what newspapers we read define us in class terms, to ourselves as well as others, just as do the clothes we wear, the pubs we frequent, and so on, I believe. A visceral aversion to publications of a different class follows from this, and in fact is rife in my experience. Everyone in my city understands which is the working-class paper and which the middle-class, and which one is proper for them, and from an early age. (FWIW they're about equally good, although no proper middle-class person will admit this.)
Anyway, in "our attitudes" I include "your attitudes" (as well as "my attitudes"), and there's the rub. The facts as I've reviewed them lead me to believe that your position is largely informed by a visceral aversion to the publications in question.
I can't prove any of this, could be wrong, and don't wish to debate this with you (I will if you want). Instead, I'd ask you take some time and just calmly consider this to yourself, within yourself, if you will. If I'm wrong, feel free to ignore me, blow me off, counterargue, or whatever pleases you (since it won't really matter). But if I'm right, you made an error in templating User:Flyer22. An understandable error, especially in the heat of the moment, but one that needs addressing.
So, depending on the results of your contemplation of this matter, I'd like you to apologize to User:Flyer22 for the templating I mentioned earlier. Effusion is not required nor a complete reversal of your position re the publications in question, and of course you can't do it if you still think your edit was justified. However, if you could see your way free to do this, this would be a kindness, would be helpful to the project, and would speak well of your character and flexibility of mind, I think. Herostratus (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-19T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Herostratus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Herostratus-2013-09-19T20:58:00.000Z-The_actual_request","replies":["c-John-2013-09-20T05:47:00.000Z-Herostratus-2013-09-19T20:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
I have walked away from the wankfest that the AN/I discussion has become as I have better things to do and little time to do them in. I have a job, a family and am still recovering from moving house. I thought I would make a final comment on the whole People furore.
So it goes. Onwards and upwards. --John (talk) 14:13, 19 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-19T14:13:00.000Z","author":"John","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John-2013-09-19T14:13:00.000Z-On_sourcing_and_the_yellow_press","replies":["c-NeilN-2013-09-19T19:10:00.000Z-John-2013-09-19T14:13:00.000Z"]}}-->
Greetings John. From one "bear of very little brain" to another, and appealing to you in your role as WikiGnome rather than admin., I'd be grateful for clarification re your edit summary here. It's not that I disagree with your edit, it's just that I'm a bit disconcerted 'cos I would have accepted, by default and AGF, both the Mail and the Standard as "reliable" sources – not, I hasten to add 'cos I consider them as such... – but because they are major players in the mass media. I'd be grateful for some guidance – no hurry – as to where I can find out a bit more about this, i.e., is there an "official" list around here that I can check out? Is it tacit? Consensus? Instinctive (as in gut feeling)? Cheers (and, in yr dual role as admin. & WikiGnome, thnks for being out there). --Technopat (talk) 19:38, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-21T19:38:00.000Z","author":"Technopat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Technopat-2013-09-21T19:38:00.000Z-Greetings_and...","replies":["c-John-2013-09-21T19:46:00.000Z-Technopat-2013-09-21T19:38:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.--Bbb23 (talk) 22:21, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-21T22:21:00.000Z","author":"Bbb23","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bbb23-2013-09-21T22:21:00.000Z-AN_notice","replies":["c-John-2013-09-21T22:22:00.000Z-Bbb23-2013-09-21T22:21:00.000Z"]}}-->
I have unblocked this user. You were clearly in a content dispute with them at the time you made the block, and so are considered WP:INVOLVED. Beeblebrox (talk) 23:46, 21 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-21T23:46:00.000Z","author":"Beeblebrox","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Beeblebrox-2013-09-21T23:46:00.000Z-Your_block_of_User:LudicrousTripe","replies":["c-Drmies-2013-09-22T00:27:00.000Z-Beeblebrox-2013-09-21T23:46:00.000Z","c-Epipelagic-2013-09-22T10:19:00.000Z-Beeblebrox-2013-09-21T23:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard#User:John NE Ent 18:17, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-22T18:17:00.000Z","author":"NE Ent","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NE_Ent-2013-09-22T18:17:00.000Z-yaan","replies":["c-John-2013-09-22T18:20:00.000Z-NE_Ent-2013-09-22T18:17:00.000Z"]}}-->
I notice you've been systematically removing links to Wales (and elsewhere) from articles. I'll raise my concerns at WT:WALES - you might like to respond there. Ghmyrtle (talk) 20:22, 22 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-22T20:22:00.000Z","author":"Ghmyrtle","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ghmyrtle-2013-09-22T20:22:00.000Z-Overlinking","replies":["c-John-2013-09-22T20:30:00.000Z-Ghmyrtle-2013-09-22T20:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm sure you got pinged, but just in case, I mentioned you at ANI.--Bbb23 (talk) 14:28, 25 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-25T14:28:00.000Z","author":"Bbb23","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bbb23-2013-09-25T14:28:00.000Z-Probably_unnecessary","replies":["c-John-2013-09-25T17:23:00.000Z-Bbb23-2013-09-25T14:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
As a notre, his ANI report specifically mentions that he personnally deemed consensus and that he did so by seeking vote counting which is explicitly against CONSENSUS in WP.Lihaas (talk) 10:57, 26 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-26T10:57:00.000Z","author":"Lihaas","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lihaas-2013-09-26T10:57:00.000Z-Like?:","replies":["c-Lihaas-2013-09-26T11:02:00.000Z-Lihaas-2013-09-26T10:57:00.000Z","c-Lihaas-2013-09-26T11:10:00.000Z-Lihaas-2013-09-26T10:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi there. Would it be possible to either reprotect Catholic High School for Boys (Little Rock, Arkansas) or block the IP who has persisted in adding unsourced material on it? You protected it a few weeks ago, but the protection expired and the IP came right back and started up the edit war again.
Thanks for taking a look. — Bdb484 (talk) 00:48, 3 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-03T00:48:00.000Z","author":"Bdb484","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bdb484-2013-10-03T00:48:00.000Z-Catholic_High_School_for_Boys_(Little_Rock,_Arkansas)","replies":["c-John-2013-10-03T05:29:00.000Z-Bdb484-2013-10-03T00:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John. I am a relative newbie to Wikipedia and I really don't understand all the copyright policies. But the picture you posted, [32] You stated a fair use policy to use it. But shouldn't that picture be in the public domain due to the fact that it was taken before 1923. WP:PD I was wondering because I have been adding pictures of California's congressmen to their respective congressional district pages for instance California's 2nd congressional district and I have been told that non-free images may not be used in tables. I'm sorry for any inconvenience and any stupidity on my part. Thank you in advance.--Jamo58 (talk) 01:37, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-10T01:37:00.000Z","author":"Jamo58","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jamo58-2013-10-10T01:37:00.000Z-JohnERaker_picture","replies":["c-John-2013-10-10T07:54:00.000Z-Jamo58-2013-10-10T01:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
FYI[33] (at the bottom), and best regards. This is C o l t o n C o s m i c. 9:32 AM, EST. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.254.176.212 (talk) 13:32, 10 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-10T13:32:00.000Z","author":"174.254.176.212","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-174.254.176.212-2013-10-10T13:32:00.000Z-FYI","replies":["c-John-2013-10-10T15:40:00.000Z-174.254.176.212-2013-10-10T13:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
See here: [34] 98.117.75.177 (talk) 17:10, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-13T17:10:00.000Z","author":"98.117.75.177","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-98.117.75.177-2013-10-13T17:10:00.000Z-Not_canvassing,_GMTA","replies":["c-John-2013-10-13T17:17:00.000Z-98.117.75.177-2013-10-13T17:10:00.000Z"]}}-->
Body, body, body. I'm totally fine with a graphic to help some understanding. and it can be cartoony and simplified. (for lighter elements where effective neutral charge is a good insight). But much better handled as at fluorine (atomic structure section), where it supports a discussion and is clear that we are describing a point from discussion rather than drawing the orbitals. and definitely not taking up precious real estate in the infobox.
Here is another couple tries (didn't quite come off, but you can see we are trying to make it easier to get insights about periodic table location)
71.127.137.171 (talk) 21:09, 13 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-13T21:09:00.000Z","author":"71.127.137.171","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-71.127.137.171-2013-10-13T21:09:00.000Z-Not_canvassing,_GMTA","replies":[]}}-->
P.s. that's nice that I didn't step on the policy too bad, but if it's a choice between being honest and stepping on Wiki's tangle of rules...that's a no brainer. :-O [open mouthed smiley]
Re the thing-you-just-removed from here about a politician; I just wanted to make you aware that the sources were not what they seemed; see [35]. 88.104.19.237 (talk) 12:10, 16 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-16T12:10:00.000Z","author":"88.104.19.237","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-88.104.19.237-2013-10-16T12:10:00.000Z-Bad_refs","replies":["c-John-2013-10-16T17:22:00.000Z-88.104.19.237-2013-10-16T12:10:00.000Z"]}}-->
I get the impression you're a pretty experienced wikipedian, so I feel it's likely you can be arsed to read this unfortunately long post from me.
RE. "Gilligan had engaged in sockpuppeting. Guardian journalist Dave Hill wrote about the allegations" [36]
I hope I can speak frankly;
Regarding that particular dispute - personally, I came across it purely by chance, and have no vested interest in the topic. I used to edit wikipedia a lot (>100,000 edits), but stopped years ago; I was taking a peek, and scanned 'recentchanges', and edit a few, just for lulz really (but, in the best interests of the project etc; I hope you understand me!)
If necessary, I can prove my prior account via Arbcom, and show I'm totally unconnected to the subject of the article - indeed, I'd never heard of him, and still don't really know his background or politics.
To me, that doesn't matter; I saw a negative claim on a BLP, I looked into it, and IMHO it's totally inappropriate to include it in a BLP, because it's not actually been recorded by newspapers or similar; it's grabbing a tabloidesque 'fact' from a blog site, and trying to make a big deal of it.
At the moment, it seems like it is 'me' versus UsamahWard (talk · contribs), with a couple of people chipping in.
I'd like to resolve it; I guess that means consensus on the talk page. At the moment, with just me v U, that seems unlikely,
So my question is - how do we resolve it? More people would help, of course; years ago, I might've tried MEDCAB but I note that seems to be defunct. So - should I list at "Dispute resolution noticeboard"? Or what?
On the one hand, I feel it's not worth pursuing - it's not anything I *personally* care about; yet I have strong feelings about the general treatment of people in news/internet, and the need for the Wikipedia project to remain stoic and neutral.
IDK... maybe it's not worth all the trouble, but... is there any route to resolution that won't take years?
Best wishes, 88.104.25.210 (talk) 01:38, 19 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-19T01:38:00.000Z","author":"88.104.25.210","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-88.104.25.210-2013-10-19T01:38:00.000Z-Andrew_Gilligan,_sock-puppet,_etc","replies":[]}}-->
My IP may change again but, no matter, I'll check back here
gnome Thank you for articles covering South Africa and Scotland, for copy-editing, for designing barnstars, for your collection of quotes on forgiveness, and for your oppose against a main stream, - repeating, you are an awesome Wikipedian (1 November 2009)! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:29, 20 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-10-20T08:29:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2012-10-20T08:29:00.000Z-Precious_again","replies":[]}}-->
A year ago, you were the 279th recipient of my PumpkinSky Prize, repeated in br'erly style, --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:21, 20 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-20T07:21:00.000Z","author":"Gerda Arendt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gerda_Arendt-2013-10-20T07:21:00.000Z-Precious_again","replies":["c-John-2013-10-20T08:11:00.000Z-Gerda_Arendt-2013-10-20T07:21:00.000Z"]}}-->
Please don't vandalize articles written in American english by turning them into British english in violation of Wikipedia's policy on varieties of English as you did in the Castle bravo and Bikini atoll articles. Under WP:ENGVAR this is valdalism. Senor Cuete (talk) 02:05, 21 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-21T02:05:00.000Z","author":"Senor Cuete","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Senor_Cuete-2013-10-21T02:05:00.000Z-Wikipedia's_policy_on_varieties_of_English","replies":["c-John-2013-10-21T05:07:00.000Z-Senor_Cuete-2013-10-21T02:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm going to tear my hair out. This bit from Blackstone just. isn't. discussed. It's not a subject of modern scholars - it's never mentioned. What Blackstone thought in 1753 just isn't relevant ... and can't fit in .... please, if anyone's watching, keep me from losing my cool over this idiocy. (This is an excellent example of why writing articles on broader subjects is thankless.) Ealdgyth - Talk 01:04, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-22T01:04:00.000Z","author":"Ealdgyth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ealdgyth-2013-10-22T01:04:00.000Z-Norman_conquest_of_England","replies":["c-Eric_Corbett-2013-10-22T01:20:00.000Z-Ealdgyth-2013-10-22T01:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi, I temporarily undid your revision of Playmobil because I'd like to discuss a few things. 1. The pronunciation was from the official Playmobil cite, deleting it has made the reference incorrect. 2. Why did you remove so many Cultural references, but leave the ThinkGeek one? - Metalello talk 19:59, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-22T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Metalello","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Metalello-2013-10-22T19:59:00.000Z-Playmobil","replies":["c-John-2013-10-22T20:10:00.000Z-Metalello-2013-10-22T19:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
I've started the discussion on the talk page and if the editor responds there, I fully expect personal attacks from the other editor as has been seen already in several discussions. Feel free to facilitate there. Walter Görlitz (talk) 22:32, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-22T22:32:00.000Z","author":"Walter G\u00f6rlitz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Walter_G\u00f6rlitz-2013-10-22T22:32:00.000Z-iPad_Mini","replies":["c-Walter_G\u00f6rlitz-2013-10-22T22:33:00.000Z-Walter_G\u00f6rlitz-2013-10-22T22:32:00.000Z","c-John-2013-10-23T09:17:00.000Z-Walter_G\u00f6rlitz-2013-10-22T22:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
You hear [kɛːs] or [kaɪ̯s] ? 198.105.102.113 (talk) 22:37, 22 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-22T22:37:00.000Z","author":"198.105.102.113","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-198.105.102.113-2013-10-22T22:37:00.000Z-caisse","replies":[]}}-->
good edit, but that terrible, haggard lead image has to go :) Ceoil (talk) 21:11, 26 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-26T21:11:00.000Z","author":"Ceoil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ceoil-2013-10-26T21:11:00.000Z-New_Order","replies":["c-John-2013-10-26T21:22:00.000Z-Ceoil-2013-10-26T21:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, You cancelled my edit on Lou Reed's page on the grounds that a secondary source is needed. What kind of secondary source do you need? Bowie's reaction was linked directly to Bowie's website. Please let me know so I can add the necessary links. Bowie and Reed were longtime friends, he produced Reed's 2nd album ("Transformer") in 1972, they sang together on multiple occasions, and they still saw each other regularly in NYC. It would be weird to mention reactions on Twitter by Jackson, Wood, etc... and not by Bowie who's known him for over 30 years, has worked with him, and was a personal friend... Best, TheGreatTweedsmuir (talk) 23:29, 27 October 2013 (UTC)TheGreatTweedsmuir[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-27T23:29:00.000Z","author":"TheGreatTweedsmuir","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheGreatTweedsmuir-2013-10-27T23:29:00.000Z-Secondary_Source_for_Bowie_Reed_Reaction?","replies":["c-John-2013-10-28T06:17:00.000Z-TheGreatTweedsmuir-2013-10-27T23:29:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, thanks for your reply. Let me clarify because I probably didn't explain myself well in the message above: I am asking which claim you want a secondary source for. I do know what a secondary source is. According to the page you linked to, "deciding whether primary, secondary or tertiary sources are appropriate (...) is a matter of good editorial judgment." I don't see why you would want a secondary source for the Bowie quote, since it is a direct quote, not an interpretation of anything. But of course, if you want one, I'll find it, it's all over the web. If on the other hand you want a secondary source for the claim that Bowie and Reed were longtime friends then please let me know, I'll find plenty, it's a fact as commonly known in the rock community as the fact that John Lennon was married to Yoko Ono. TheGreatTweedsmuir (talk) 16:23, 28 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-28T16:23:00.000Z","author":"TheGreatTweedsmuir","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheGreatTweedsmuir-2013-10-28T16:23:00.000Z-Secondary_Source_for_Bowie_Reed_Reaction?","replies":["c-John-2013-10-28T16:41:00.000Z-TheGreatTweedsmuir-2013-10-28T16:23:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello, Could you please go back to [38] and indicate if any of the newly provided options are preferred? Thanks, Hobit (talk) 16:42, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-31T16:42:00.000Z","author":"Hobit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hobit-2013-10-31T16:42:00.000Z-Marie_Curie_nationality,_new_options.","replies":[]}}-->
I found what appears to be a very definitive source as to the month of Reed's liver transplant in the June 11th Cleveland Plain Dealer. Their reporter cited "early May" after having spoken to the clinic after the latter received a release from the family to confirm the procedure. I posted the cite at the Wikipedia article. ABC News repeated the "April" month as recently as yesterday and the earlier NY Times Obit was in error as well. If they haven't changed it, I'll write to the reporter and let him know so it can be changed. Thank you for bringing the Wikipedia "Spring" issue to my attention. Activist (talk) 16:52, 31 October 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-31T16:52:00.000Z","author":"Activist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Activist-2013-10-31T16:52:00.000Z-Lou_Reed_-_death","replies":["c-John-2013-10-31T16:54:00.000Z-Activist-2013-10-31T16:52:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello John. I understand that you don't like the Daily Mail. I can't say that I'm a fan of it either, and have removed info sourced to it myself (see here). However I think some consideration has to be paid to context. The edit you made here, for example, is not in a BLP and the info you removed was not particularly controversial (and unlike my Sean Penn removal, it could also easily be corroborated by another source, which I subsequently did). Furthermore, your edit summary was misleading, and certainly caused my eyebrows to be raised. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 09:28, 3 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-03T09:28:00.000Z","author":"PaleCloudedWhite","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PaleCloudedWhite-2013-11-03T09:28:00.000Z-Daily_Mail_etc.","replies":["c-John-2013-11-03T09:34:00.000Z-PaleCloudedWhite-2013-11-03T09:28:00.000Z"]}}-->
Once again, UsamahWard (talk · contribs) has been editing that article, and I'm concerned about the sourcing (esp per BLP policy).
For example;
in a case of child abuse which he had wrongly linked to a mosque.[1] The Telegraph deleted Gilligan's article and issued a correction,[2][3] though he later denied any story he had written had been corrected.[4]
The above is firstly referenced to a news item which was later retracted, and then "supported" by a blog source; you can note that the last reference states "I'm a senior reporter for the Daily and Sunday Telegraph. This is my personal blog" - and thus not an appropriate reference at all.
I think it should be removed, but last time I tried that, I got myself blocked. I'd also previously posted concerns on BLPN (as you advised), but that didn't seem to help much; I'm not at all interested in Wikipedia machinations, but I am hoping you can perhaps do something about this problem.
Thanks, 88.104.20.17 (talk) 04:24, 5 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-05T04:24:00.000Z","author":"88.104.20.17","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-88.104.20.17-2013-11-05T04:24:00.000Z-Gilligan","replies":["c-John-2013-11-05T07:04:00.000Z-88.104.20.17-2013-11-05T04:24:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi again John; despite your previous polite requests that that user not add things without consensus, they are continuing to do so; for example [39] [40] [41] [42] [43] [44] [45] etc.
It's getting silly. I've been happy to discuss whether it should be included, and personally I don't think it should be; obviously, that user does. But there's no consensus for it, and the only time others have commented they've also been against it.
I've suggested he could of course create an RfC - but... well, he just keeps adding it back without consensus.
Can you help? 88.104.4.74 (talk) 16:45, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-15T16:45:00.000Z","author":"88.104.4.74","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-88.104.4.74-2013-11-15T16:45:00.000Z-Gilligan","replies":[]}}-->
I would welcome another viewpoint on the introduction to the article, which is why I posted an RFC. As for "... and the only time others have commented they've also been against it", this appears to be another untruth, I see no other comments about the introduction - I'm happy to be shown otherwise. The repeated removal of this text citing WP:BLP is inappropriate, as BLP requires removal where sourcing is weak, which doesn't apply here. The IP editor has constantly changed their reason for removing the text, initially protesting the phrase "best known", which had stood since 2004, and is supported by sources (examples in the talk page). Even so, in the spirit of finding a way forward I left out the word "best", but then even saying he was "known" for this issue was deemed objectionable by the IP editor. Despite the countless strong sources that make such a position untenable, I reworded it again so it didn't include the word known. Then the objection raised was that it was negative, which is a bizarre interpretation of the very neutral text; and even if it were, it still wouldn't be a problem, as explained in WP:LEAD. — Preceding unsigned comment added by UsamahWard (talk • contribs) 20:50, 15 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-15T20:50:00.000Z","author":"UsamahWard","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-UsamahWard-2013-11-15T20:50:00.000Z-Gilligan","replies":["c-88.104.4.74-2013-11-15T22:07:00.000Z-UsamahWard-2013-11-15T20:50:00.000Z"]}}-->
Thanks. 88.104.4.74 (talk) 10:47, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-16T10:47:00.000Z","author":"88.104.4.74","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-88.104.4.74-2013-11-16T10:47:00.000Z-Gilligan","replies":[]}}-->
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I have just joined Wikipedia in an effort to try and have the page for the organisation I work for updated. In an effort to avoid being unethical, I wondered if this is something you might consider taking on, as looking at the history of the page it looks like you wrote the orginal page, or at least contributed considerably?
The Police Complaints Commissioner for Scotland (PCCS) became the Police Investigations & Review Commissioner (PIRC) on 1 April 2013, as part of reform to police and fire services in Scotland (i.e. eight Scottish police forces merging into one Police Scotland). As such, the PCCS wiki page is now quite out of date. The Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 saw the PCCS take on responsibility for investigating the most serious incidents involving the police as well as continuing with the complaints review function and remit to drive up standards in police complaints handling.
There seems to be a page set up for the Police Investigations & Review Commissioner that has been linked to from the IPCC wiki, but no content has been added.
By way of providing some background, there is the PIRC website, the Police and Fire Reform (Scotland) Act 2012 and the Scottish Government website. The Scottish Parliament website also holds some information in relation to the Justice Sub-Committee on Policing, at which the current Commissioner John McNeill appeared last month to give evidence on progress to date. There has also been a fair bit of press coverage both in the run up to becoming the PIRC (and as part of the coverage of police reform) and since 1 April in particular relation to completed investigations.
If this is not something you are able to do, if you could please let me know, that would be great. As I say, I'm completely new to the world of Wikipedia in terms of the editing side of things, so if you have suggestions for how I can achieve changes to the page without causing trouble, that would be brilliant.
Thanks in advance.
Kirsty Gordon — Preceding unsigned comment added by KirstyGordon (talk • contribs) 15:37, 11 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-11T15:37:00.000Z","author":"KirstyGordon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KirstyGordon-2013-11-11T15:37:00.000Z-Police_Complaints_Commissioner_for_Scotland_wiki_entry","replies":["c-John-2013-11-11T17:00:00.000Z-KirstyGordon-2013-11-11T15:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hello, would you be able to copyedit Crocodilia? LittleJerry (talk) 19:47, 14 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-14T19:47:00.000Z","author":"LittleJerry","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LittleJerry-2013-11-14T19:47:00.000Z-Copyedit","replies":["c-John-2013-11-14T20:19:00.000Z-LittleJerry-2013-11-14T19:47:00.000Z"]}}-->
That's a charming note on my talk page, but the thanks must really flow in your direction. You have taught me to beware of the siren however, which so often clogs up a sentence unnecessarily and diminishes its impact. I am ashamed to say I attempted to twist your tail when we first engaged in discussion on the point at Alec Douglas-Home, but I am now a convert. (PS: You wouldn't care to comment at the peer review the Wells Cathedral article, by any happy chance?) Tim riley (talk) 21:18, 16 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-16T21:18:00.000Z","author":"Tim riley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tim_riley-2013-11-16T21:18:00.000Z-However","replies":["c-John-2013-11-16T21:30:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2013-11-16T21:18:00.000Z","c-John-2013-11-17T21:16:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2013-11-16T21:18:00.000Z"]}}-->
There are at least 3 editors at Wolf Attacks, who are really committed to the "anything goes" theory of sourcing and they have, in my opinion, an agenda that is not commensurate with good editing.
76.250.61.95 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:20, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-17T02:20:00.000Z","author":"76.250.61.95","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.250.61.95-2013-11-17T02:20:00.000Z-Wolves","replies":["c-John-2013-11-17T13:41:00.000Z-76.250.61.95-2013-11-17T02:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
"Miss Jones sang her aria outstandingly, while the choir sang the Hallelujah Chorus with great gusto." Good luck with "while"! I have wimpishly given up on it, confining myself to rounds of rapid fire at any incidence of "whilst". Our American colleagues have pulled me up about the distinction between "which" and "that", which some of the most eminent English writers have been lax about, but our US colleagues are right, for all that. It is a treat to exchange views with someone who relishes words and cares about their use. Happily we have lots of like-minded WP colleagues. (And if, as seems, you've never seen Wells Cathedral, you have a breathtaking treat in store.) – Tim riley (talk) 22:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-17T22:19:00.000Z","author":"Tim riley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tim_riley-2013-11-17T22:19:00.000Z-While,_whilst,_which_and_that","replies":["c-John-2013-11-18T06:24:00.000Z-Tim_riley-2013-11-17T22:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi there, John, I hope you're doing well!
Ian Rose suggested at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Fuck (film)/archive1 that you might be able to help with some copy editing to improve prose at the FAC article I'm working on, Fuck (film), specifically with regards to improvement of flow.
Or, if you think it's fine as is after I've responded to additional comments at the FAC by users including Wehwalt and Quadell, you could mention that, as well, at the FAC subpage.
Any help or input at this point would be appreciated.
Thank you for your time,
— Cirt (talk) 02:57, 19 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-19T02:57:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2013-11-19T02:57:00.000Z-Fuck_request_for_help","replies":["c-John-2013-11-19T06:20:00.000Z-Cirt-2013-11-19T02:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Would it be alright with you if I moved your addressed FAC comments to the FAC talk page? I'm just sort of doing some minor formatting to keep the process running smoothly. Wanted to ask your permission first, — Cirt (talk) 21:46, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-20T21:46:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2013-11-20T21:46:00.000Z-Fuck_request_for_help","replies":["c-John-2013-11-21T06:33:00.000Z-Cirt-2013-11-20T21:46:00.000Z"]}}-->
Just a heads up re User Number 57 who I noticed 2 days ago you gave a final warning to, for disruptive edits. Number 57 has gone through reverting a constructive edit to each page from 1868 to 2010 without any explanation. I have just gone through and undone all these reversions.Graemp (talk) 00:32, 20 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-20T00:32:00.000Z","author":"Graemp","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Graemp-2013-11-20T00:32:00.000Z-UK_Election_Pages","replies":["c-John-2013-11-20T06:38:00.000Z-Graemp-2013-11-20T00:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
I saw your helpful improvements at the page Go the Fuck to Sleep, thank you.
Would you like to collaborate with me on a quality improvement project on that article, in memory of Philcha?
Philcha (talk · contribs) mentioned on the talk page of the article that it had potential to be improved to WP:GA quality -- but died before being able to accomplish that.
I think the article itself has potential but needs a bit more expansion from secondary sources, and better structural organization.
What do you think?
Cheers,
— Cirt (talk) 07:05, 21 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-21T07:05:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2013-11-21T07:05:00.000Z-Go_the_Fuck_to_Sleep","replies":["c-John-2013-11-21T07:15:00.000Z-Cirt-2013-11-21T07:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
You are mentioned at AN/I. Collect (talk) 22:48, 22 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-22T22:48:00.000Z","author":"Collect","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Collect-2013-11-22T22:48:00.000Z-AN\/I","replies":["c-John-2013-11-22T23:18:00.000Z-Collect-2013-11-22T22:48:00.000Z"]}}-->
Much appreciated! — Cirt (talk) 22:36, 23 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-23T22:36:00.000Z","author":"Cirt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cirt-2013-11-23T22:36:00.000Z-The_Copyeditor's_Barnstar","replies":["c-John-2013-11-24T00:27:00.000Z-Cirt-2013-11-23T22:36:00.000Z"]}}-->
Your edit summary is mentioned at AN/I. Collect (talk) 13:22, 24 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-24T13:22:00.000Z","author":"Collect","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Collect-2013-11-24T13:22:00.000Z-AN\/I_2","replies":["c-John-2013-11-24T16:16:00.000Z-Collect-2013-11-24T13:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
As a courtesy note, Collect (talk · contribs) has opened a discussion at WP:NPOV/N of content which you and he have been disputing from the Daily Mail article. I didn't see that you'd been notified, hence this note. MastCell Talk 22:11, 26 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-26T22:11:00.000Z","author":"MastCell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MastCell-2013-11-26T22:11:00.000Z-NPOV\/N","replies":["c-Collect-2013-11-26T22:28:00.000Z-MastCell-2013-11-26T22:11:00.000Z","c-John-2013-11-26T22:32:00.000Z-MastCell-2013-11-26T22:11:00.000Z"]}}-->
I'm at the moment making a project page that I have not finished so I don't need to say Non-Minor Edit, Non-Minor Edit, Non-Minor Edit, Non-Minor Edit, Non-Minor Edit, Non-Minor Edit, Non-Minor Edit, Non-Minor Edit, Non-Minor Edit, BECAUSE I HAVEN'T FINISHED MAKING A PROJECT PAGE! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jb423 (talk • contribs)
Adding or removing content in an article (got it) Adding or removing visible tags or other templates in an article - (What?) Adding or removing references or external links in an article (got it) Adding comments to a talk page or other discussion (got it)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Jb423 (talk • contribs)
Oops! Looks like we're both trying to make some improvements to the same section on the Aleister Crowley page; I ended up accidentally undoing some of your edits while implementing my own, and then you undid my edit. I'll go ahead and fix it so that all of our edits can remain. Best, Midnightblueowl (talk) 20:25, 2 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-02T20:25:00.000Z","author":"Midnightblueowl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Midnightblueowl-2013-12-02T20:25:00.000Z-Aleister_Crowley_mess_up","replies":["c-John-2013-12-02T20:27:00.000Z-Midnightblueowl-2013-12-02T20:25:00.000Z","c-Eric_Corbett-2013-12-02T20:37:00.000Z-Midnightblueowl-2013-12-02T20:25:00.000Z"]}}-->
Even with a reference, I wonder if that content is too much personal information?--Mark Miller (talk) 21:26, 3 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-03T21:26:00.000Z","author":"Mark Miller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mark_Miller-2013-12-03T21:26:00.000Z-Tom_Daley","replies":["c-John-2013-12-03T21:28:00.000Z-Mark_Miller-2013-12-03T21:26:00.000Z"]}}-->
On July 16, 2011, you contacted user Joshua Woroniecki with this message on his talk page:
"I'm awfully sorry but I have to insist you do not edit an article on which you have an apparent conflict of interest again. The next time you do that this account will be blocked indefinitely. --John (talk) 22:26, 16 July 2011 (UTC)"
Only 7 days later, on July 23, 2011 an anonymous editor (quite possibly the user you warned) at 64.79.101.170 added to the article an "unduly self serving" third party sourced quote originally from the family's website that serves to promote the family's ministry by soliciting contacts from the public:
“Are you willing to look deeper, beyond it all? Please give us a chance to help you. It will be well worth your time. What we offer you is not a new group, “church”, formulas, self exaltation or doctrines. What we offer you is the love of the living Jesus who has the answers that you are looking for.”
This quote is "unduly self serving" according to WP:NOTPROMOTION and WP:ABOUTSELF and is therefore not permissible even as third party sourced material.
I believe the family has been using this wikipedia page as a promotional platform, particularly through said quote, to solicit greater contact with the public, which in turn favors increasing their financial support base.
Over the last 30 days, someone has tenaciously refused to let this "unduly self serving" quote suffer removal, despite the clear reasons provided and rules cited that disallow it. (Please see edit history page.) I believe only the Woronieckis would go to such lengths to refuse to let such a self serving quote be deleted.
Several reverts were made from IPs in North Carolina and Georgia at the same dates the Woroniecki's unique protest sign messages were tweeted or reported on in these states or around the times they moved through these states. The Woronieckis protest against Churches with provocative banner signs in an itinerant fashion from campus to campus across the US and were seen traveling south through eastern US seaboard states from NY-GA in Oct and Nov 2013.
www.theslateonline.com/article/2013/10/jesus-banners-wave-at-su Oct 9, 2013 Shippenburg Univiversity, Shippenburg, PA
https://twitter.com/KellyFairbanks Kelly Fairbanks @KellyFairbanks 13 Nov All of these "church is a joke" banners around Tate are actually kind of making me angry Collapse Reply Retweet Favorite More Nov 13, 2013 University of Georgia, Athens GA
religionnerd.com/2013/11/19/believe-in-jesus-read-the-bible-dont-go-to-church/ Athens, GA University of Georgia, Nov 19, 2013
I'm persuaded the Woronieckis are monitoring the article and maintaining their promotional/diluted noteriety bias through anonymous edits. There is another edit made on this date: (cur | prev) 02:59, 27 September 2013 108.120.226.7 (talk) . . (29,020 bytes) (-298) . . (removal of unsourced and potential "invasion of privacy" statements) (undo) Which was a reasonable edit made by the family, who was seen at Univeristy of Illinois Urbana on the date the edit was made according to this tweeted photo: http://www.eyeem.com/p/19713731 I cite it merely to show they are actively monitoring and anonymously editing the article.
Despite clear BLP rule violations the delete sought to fix, an anonymous IP in the UK steps in, disregards the already discussed reverts, favors the violations of the Woroniecki edits, just as user: Off2riorob aka youreallycan (a blocked administrator) and user: Kevin (demoted administrator) favored the edits and stealth edits Joshua Woroniecki made in the article which removed very well sourced information from major publishing house books, city newspapers and mainstream US news outlets that clarify the allegations reputable sources made regarding the preacher's affect on Andrea Yates, like the two quotes seen below:
1-"Yates had suffered from mental illness for years -- depression with bouts of psychosis, suicide attempts and hospitalizations. Soon after the birth of her fourth child, Luke, she began to have violent thoughts. Her delusions were fueled by the extreme religious beliefs of a bizarre, itinerant street preacher named Michael Woroniecki whom her husband, Rusty, had introduced her to." http://abcnews.go.com/Primetime/story?id=2244865
2-"Here is where the Woroniecki doctrinal muddle sets in. Whether to the casual observer or to those who had tried to follow Woroniecki for years, the streets of heaven seemed empty. In spite of the ransom given for all men for all time, the numeric set of the "saved" seems to number only 8 people, his wife and his children. If you count his mother--who was on the "maybe" list--9. For those who were drawn to Michael Woroniecki for the sincerity of his beliefs and his walking the walk he talked, there seemed little if any hope to equal his personal success. For those who like Andrea Yates, were both sincere and driven to please, following Woroniecki could lead to ruin." Author and Yale University Instructor Suzanne O'Malley, Are You There Alone?, p. 109 Simon & Schuster Publishers. www.suzanneomalley.com
The quotes highlight the court documented psychotic scripts Yates revealed in her post arrest psychiatric records, which are also enumerated in O'Malley's book. Both she and the children had to die because she was a bad mother headed for hell, and she was damaging her children which would cause them to stumble and go to hell. These thoughts were demonstrated to have come from Yate's preaching materials.
Joshua also removed the reason the Woroniecki's have notoriety in the header, the seemingly unconstitutional (which wasn't, as the articles revealed) ouster from his hometown in Grand Rapids in 1981 which made national news in the US and the international story about Andrea Yates killing her children in 2001 and his media alleged role as her minister in effecting that result. Joshua substitutes his campus protests as the means to notoriety. This low level of notoriety that excluded the controversial matters disqualified their page on their father in Spanish Wickipedia as promotional, which was being made around the same time the English page was being biased in the favor of the Woroniecki's. According to http://www.apologeticsindex.org/w16.html
"In what comes across as somewhat of a PR campaign since early in 2010 the Woroniecki's have established on online presence, including a website, a blog, and videos on Vimeo and Youtube. At the same time they have attempted to purge information posted elsewhere by critics. In some cases they have succeeded in doing so (e.g. Wikipedia and YouTube). Apologetics Index was asked by Joshua Woroniecki to remove this page. However, our policy is to encourage visitors to research any and all topics included in this website from a variety of perspectives. That is why we attempt to provide links to a variety of research resources -- which can include pointers to pro- contra- or neutral information about the subject."
Discussion on the talk page has done nothing to rectify the new bias of this article over the last 4 years. User Jibbytot gave up in frustration trying to effect change on the talk page. I believe whoever the anonymous UK editor is knows this, so when he makes the revert to the original article keeping the "unduly self serving" quote and refers to make discussion on the talk page, he expects nothing will change as it was before.
I believe what the Woronieckis have done is simply contact one of the editors, possibly Off2riorob (who was a UK editor watching the page for years and favored them 4 years ago) through private email, and he returned to the page he had been watching and guarding years ago before he was finally blocked for harassing other editors.
If I am not correct, and I have misinterpreted the WP BLP rules concerning promotion and unduly self serving quotes from third party sources, I apologize. Nevertheless, I think it is clear the Woroniecki's have a biased stranglehold on this article that has been facilitated and protected by at least two discredited editors for years. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.191.202 (talk) 01:57, 4 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-04T01:57:00.000Z","author":"71.251.191.202","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-71.251.191.202-2013-12-04T01:57:00.000Z-Michael_Peter_Woroniecki","replies":["c-John-2013-12-04T21:50:00.000Z-71.251.191.202-2013-12-04T01:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
Just a small query regarding your revert of my addition of two wikilinks to eurocopter. I may be missing something, but the article doesn't seem to have any links to the wiki page for this company directly even although it is mentioned significantly. This is a separate article to the one about the eurocopter helicopter. Removing one of the links might have been reasonable, but why both? Hope this makes sense --nonsense ferret 12:06, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-05T12:06:00.000Z","author":"Nonsenseferret","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nonsenseferret-2013-12-05T12:06:00.000Z-2013_Glasgow_helicopter_crash","replies":["c-John-2013-12-05T14:30:00.000Z-Nonsenseferret-2013-12-05T12:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"nonsense"}}-->
At the Daily Mail talk page. Please note that I am not adding to the list at AN/I here -- but I suggest you understand "verb sap". Collect (talk) 14:59, 5 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-05T14:59:00.000Z","author":"Collect","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Collect-2013-12-05T14:59:00.000Z-personal_attack_removed","replies":["c-John-2013-12-05T15:39:00.000Z-Collect-2013-12-05T14:59:00.000Z"]}}-->
I think I did a bit too much at the COIN in regards to the issues, but I've spent too many hours reviewing the information given that Gage was quite the interesting fellow. I do acknowledge EEng as an expert, but I disagree that the vast majority of such a detailed page should come from him or his co-author. I was worried about the matter following my reading of that GAR. Fleischman's work (not the user, DrFleischman) was the first result on Google and Amazon and scholar and while I found several more, I was disturbed by the reading in the new Corsini Encyclopedia of Psychology, Volume 3 which presents the information from many authors which Macmillan's work and EEng has so derided.[46] I'll leave it in the communities hands, but I do hope EEng is capable of working positively to address the issues. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 18:05, 8 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-08T18:05:00.000Z","author":"ChrisGualtieri","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ChrisGualtieri-2013-12-08T18:05:00.000Z-The_Gage_matter","replies":["c-John-2013-12-08T19:32:00.000Z-ChrisGualtieri-2013-12-08T18:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
John, I noticed that you are an administrator and also a member of project firearms. I was doing a little editing to H&R Pardner 12GA when I noticed that the name seems to be at odds with the way shotgun articles are typically named on Wikipedia. Usually a specific gauge that a gun is offered in doesn’t get its own page. Also the manufacturer calls the shotgun the “Pardner Pump”. I understand that I (as an IP editor) can’t rename the page, but would you be able to? Thanks. 76.107.171.90 (talk) 18:37, 14 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-14T18:37:00.000Z","author":"76.107.171.90","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.107.171.90-2013-12-14T18:37:00.000Z-Pardner_Pump","replies":["c-John-2013-12-14T19:12:00.000Z-76.107.171.90-2013-12-14T18:37:00.000Z","c-John-2013-12-15T00:34:00.000Z-76.107.171.90-2013-12-14T18:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
I think the best way to get someone to discuss the edit is to "make" this edit and wait for someone to disagree (since you don't seem interested in discussing). Don't you think? Sorry if i sound ignorant because i'm still not 100% familiar with many of Wikipedia's policies. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 16:03, 15 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-15T16:03:00.000Z","author":"Fitzcarmalan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fitzcarmalan-2013-12-15T16:03:00.000Z-Proposed_title_for_August_2013_Egyptian_raids","replies":["c-Fitzcarmalan-2013-12-15T16:04:00.000Z-Fitzcarmalan-2013-12-15T16:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
Alright then, i will wait.. Thanks. Fitzcarmalan (talk) 22:20, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-17T22:20:00.000Z","author":"Fitzcarmalan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fitzcarmalan-2013-12-17T22:20:00.000Z-Proposed_title_for_August_2013_Egyptian_raids","replies":[]}}-->
Thanks for your thanks! You're a great editor, but I do fear that you might be a bit over zealous in your mass deletion of tabloid refs. I only speak of those cases where the subject of the BLP themselves has given an interview to a tabloid, thus legitimising both the reference, and our article. Keep up your great work. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 21:00, 17 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-17T21:00:00.000Z","author":"Gareth E Kegg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gareth_E_Kegg-2013-12-17T21:00:00.000Z-Thanks_2","replies":["c-John-2013-12-17T21:14:00.000Z-Gareth_E_Kegg-2013-12-17T21:00:00.000Z"]}}-->
Hi John, if you don't know it already, McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II is undergoing FA candidacy atm. Since you have contributed to its last FAC in 2011, you are welcomed to do so again at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/McDonnell Douglas AV-8B Harrier II/archive2. Cheers, --Sp33dyphil ©hatontributions 07:43, 20 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-20T07:43:00.000Z","author":"Sp33dyphil","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sp33dyphil-2013-12-20T07:43:00.000Z-FAC_2","replies":["c-John-2013-12-20T22:01:00.000Z-Sp33dyphil-2013-12-20T07:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
I am reviewing your block of User:Jay-W. Could you kindly comment on the question I've asked on his talkpage. Thank you. Regards, Newyorkbrad (talk) 00:01, 24 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-24T00:01:00.000Z","author":"Newyorkbrad","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Newyorkbrad-2013-12-24T00:01:00.000Z-Block_review","replies":["c-John-2013-12-24T00:20:00.000Z-Newyorkbrad-2013-12-24T00:01:00.000Z"]}}-->
[47]...Modernist (talk) 03:39, 25 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-25T03:39:00.000Z","author":"Modernist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Modernist-2013-12-25T03:39:00.000Z-Happy_Holidays","replies":["c-John-2013-12-25T12:24:00.000Z-Modernist-2013-12-25T03:39:00.000Z"]}}-->
FWiW Bzuk (talk) 19:57, 26 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-26T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Bzuk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bzuk-2013-12-26T19:57:00.000Z-Glad_Tidings_and_all_that_...","replies":["c-John-2013-12-26T21:09:00.000Z-Bzuk-2013-12-26T19:57:00.000Z"],"displayName":"FWiW Bzuk"}}-->
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