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I am sorry to bother you but I have been recently pulling updates for Module:Wd to several other WMF sites and the Welsh guys seem to be having an issue with the malformed-reference code you authored at Special:Diff/1142473992/1150716473. I thought perhaps you could weigh in at cy:Sgwrs Defnyddiwr:Llywelyn2000#Gwallau WD, since I assume you understand that code considerably better than I do. Thank you, —Uzume (talk) 12:59, 16 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230616125900","author":"Uzume","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Uzume-20230616125900-cy:Modiwl:Wd","replies":[]}}-->

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Is there some sort of task force activity in progress to clean up junk pages about Cyrillic characters? If so, where is it documented? If so, I would like to see what its scope is intended to be. If you have taken it on yourself to clean up pages about Cyrillic characters, it would be a good idea to become familiar with how draft space is used and is meant to be used. On the one hand, stuff that is truly abandoned is nominated for deletion by a bot, and so is self-deleting. On the other hand, making minor edits to drafts is a feature, not a bug or a misfeature. I haven't looked in detail at the articles and redirects that you have tagged, but I know that the drafts that you have tagged are the sort of stuff that do no harm in draft space indefinitely if they are tweaked every five months, and cause more work for the community to discuss whether to delete them than would be spent leaving them alone either to go away in six months, or to linger for several years of occasional edits, or possibly to find a second reliable source and go into article space. So please either let me know who is coordinating this cleanup, or stop ragpicking . Robert McClenon (talk) 04:43, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227044300","author":"Robert McClenon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Robert_McClenon-20241227044300-Miscellaneous_Cyrillic_symbols","replies":["c-Janhrach-20241227134100-Robert_McClenon-20241227044300"]}}-->

@Robert McClenon: I am sorry for the disruption I caused. I did not coordinate the edits with anybody.

I started focusing on stubs about obscure Cyrillic letters after I stumbled upon this AfD a few days ago, which was about articles created by Glenn103. I tried MfD-ing a few drafts by this editor (they seemed to be hoaxes), but I was soon notified of Wikipedia:Drafts are not checked for notability or sanity. After an initial mainspace-only block, the editor was blocked as a sock from this group.

This raised my suspicions. Additionally, logged-out socking had been reported by AfC reviewers on some older drafts edited by Glenn103. After some digging in page histories, I found that some Cyrillic drafts had been edited by users from this sock group (focus on Cyrillic has even been pointed out in this SPI). I became convinced that there is an LTA focusing on obscure Cyrillic letters.

I thought the best solution to socking on old drafts about unnotable topics was to send them to MfD. I mistakenly thought that Wikipedia:Drafts are not checked for notability or sanity#So when is MfD appropriate? permitted, if not encouraged, nominations like this.

Again, I apologize. Shall I withdraw the nominations? If yes, does simply closing them, with a note of the withdrawal, suffice?

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At this point, I think that leaving the nominations open at MFD to be closed formally in about six days is probably the simplest course of action. Robert McClenon (talk) 15:42, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241227154200","author":"Robert McClenon","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Robert_McClenon-20241227154200-Janhrach-20241227134100","replies":["c-Robert_McClenon-20241230030500-Robert_McClenon-20241227154200"]}}-->

You were right. Those Cyrillic letter drafts were hoaxes, and the originator was a sockpuppet, and the drafts have been deleted and the originator blocked. You were right. Robert McClenon (talk) 03:05, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241230030500","author":"Robert McClenon","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Robert_McClenon-20241230030500-Robert_McClenon-20241227154200","replies":["c-Janhrach-20250103163800-Robert_McClenon-20241230030500"]}}-->

Excuse me, could you clarify your reply? The MfD-ed drafts haven't been deleted. As for the Glenn103 drafts, they indeed have been speedily deleted, but that had happened before my December 27 reply. (I nominated the for SD the same day when I created the MfDs.) Which drafts are you refering to? Janhrach (talk) 16:38, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250103163800","author":"Janhrach","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Janhrach-20250103163800-Robert_McClenon-20241230030500","replies":["c-Rotideypoc41352-20250114005100-Janhrach-20250103163800"]}}-->

Janhrach, please excuse my pinging of @Robert McClenon, but I am also curious as to which drafts he is referring to, considering the MfDs indeed closed as keep. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:51, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250114005100","author":"Rotideypoc41352","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Rotideypoc41352-20250114005100-Janhrach-20250103163800","replies":["c-Robert_McClenon-20250114051800-Rotideypoc41352-20250114005100"]}}-->

There were some miscellaneous Cyrillic drafts that were submitted by a sockpuppet and were deleted. I am not ready right now to look for their ghosts or to research who or what they were. I may look into this further in the future, but not in the next 48 hours. As Robert Pirsig reminds us, pursuing a ghost persistently is dangerous because you may become a ghost yourself. Robert McClenon (talk) 05:18, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250114051800","author":"Robert McClenon","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Robert_McClenon-20250114051800-Rotideypoc41352-20250114005100","replies":["c-Janhrach-20250119161800-Robert_McClenon-20250114051800"]}}-->

Well, yes, I succesfully nominated some of the drafts for speedy deletion after the editor has been identified as a sock (without me influencing that in any way; the admin just changed the block settings and summary apparently without an SPI. This happened after I had made the MfDs, but before their closes.) Janhrach (talk) 16:18, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250119161800","author":"Janhrach","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Janhrach-20250119161800-Robert_McClenon-20250114051800","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Janhrach,

Just wanted to let you know that looking around for page creations done by editors blocked as sockpuppets over 2 1/2 years ago is a very low priority task. These articles and drafts by block-evading socks are deleted to let the sockmaster know that they can't keep creating socks and getting away with it but 2022 was a long time ago and I'm sure that this sockmaster has moved on and is not watching these articles to see that they are being deleted. Deleting them after several years is kind of a bureaucratic move, following the letter of the CSD rules but not the spirit. So, if there are other tasks you spend time on that help the current state of the project, I'd encourage you to spend your time on those activities.

But thank you for the time and effort you are spending on this project. It's appreciated! Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:06, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250112180600","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liz-20250112180600-CSD_G5s","replies":["c-Janhrach-20250112181100-Liz-20250112180600"]}}-->

Thank you, but the sockmaster may still be active, and worse, UPE may be involved. Someone in WP:Sockpuppet investigations/BobVillars/Archive said BobVillars may be from the YtoSu group, and apparently nlwiki considers it to be confirmed: [1]. Janhrach (talk) 18:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250112181100","author":"Janhrach","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Janhrach-20250112181100-Liz-20250112180600","replies":["c-Liz-20250112181300-Janhrach-20250112181100"]}}-->

I just came by to remove my message but I see you have already responded to it. It felt like I was scolding you for being a thorough editor which wasn't my intention. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:13, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250112181300","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Liz-20250112181300-Janhrach-20250112181100","replies":["c-Janhrach-20250112181600-Liz-20250112181300"]}}-->

No, that's fine. It actually would be strange to nominate articles by long-inactive non-UPE socks. Janhrach (talk) 18:16, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20250112181600","author":"Janhrach","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Janhrach-20250112181600-Liz-20250112181300","replies":[]}}-->