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Please try to be a bit more careful when reviewing drafts. Draft:Javari Thomas should not have been declined, not rejected, in its current state and it's not a WP:G11. I realize people make mistakes sometimes but I wanted to give you this feedback so you know for the future. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:23, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240915002300","author":"Clovermoss","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Clovermoss-20240915002300-Rejecting_AfC_drafts","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20240915002800-Clovermoss-20240915002300"],"displayName":"Clovermoss\ud83c\udf40"}}-->

@Clovermoss

Alright, thank you. I'll definitely be more careful with rejections in the future. My apologies for any issues this caused! Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 00:28, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240915002800","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20240915002800-Clovermoss-20240915002300","replies":["c-Clovermoss-20240915005700-Guessitsavis-20240915002800","c-Timtrent-20240916124600-Guessitsavis-20240915002800"]}}-->

I'm just glad you're willing to listen to feedback. No one's perfect but it is a good idea to not bite the newbies if we can help it. Take this as a learning experience and keep moving forward. :) Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 00:57, 15 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240915005700","author":"Clovermoss","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Clovermoss-20240915005700-Guessitsavis-20240915002800","replies":[],"displayName":"Clovermoss\ud83c\udf40"}}-->

(talk page watcher) It's always hard, especially when a draft is long, yet has only received a single prior review, or none at all. Simply continue to review, learning as you go. If you ever feel you have made a mess the best idea is to revert the mess and apologise. I am not saying that you have made a mess. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 12:46, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916124600","author":"Timtrent","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Timtrent-20240916124600-Guessitsavis-20240915002800","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20240916124900-Timtrent-20240916124600"],"displayName":"FiddleTimtrent"}}-->

Thank you for your kind words! They are really appreciated, especially due to recent events. I'll definitely keep them in mind during my contributions. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 12:49, 16 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240916124900","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20240916124900-Timtrent-20240916124600","replies":[]}}-->

Your revert here seems improper. Please explain. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Mazan_rapes&diff=prev&oldid=1246204832 2603:7000:2101:AA00:51DF:B834:1672:242A (talk) 20:33, 17 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240917203300","author":"2603:7000:2101:AA00:51DF:B834:1672:242A","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2603:7000:2101:AA00:51DF:B834:1672:242A-20240917203300-Improper_revert","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20240918000300-2603:7000:2101:AA00:51DF:B834:1672:242A-20240917203300"]}}-->

@2603:7000:2101:AA00:51DF:B834:1672:242A

Unfortunately, I have not been able to see a source that explicitly says that Dominique confessed to such. He has made other confessions but none of them explicitly say "he admits he drugged his wife", or "he admits he raped her while she was unconscious." Until such time, or until/unless found guilty, we can not say that he definitely did such. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 00:03, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240918000300","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20240918000300-2603:7000:2101:AA00:51DF:B834:1672:242A-20240917203300","replies":[]}}-->

Maya Hahn's father is mentioned. Why would you unmention her mother? My source for the original change was Maya's mother! Smvdwal (talk) 11:15, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240918111500","author":"Smvdwal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Smvdwal-20240918111500-Maya_Hahn","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20240918113200-Smvdwal-20240918111500"]}}-->

@Smvdwal

You did not supply said source. See WP:BLP. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 11:32, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240918113200","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20240918113200-Smvdwal-20240918111500","replies":[]}}-->

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Awesome, thank you! Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 12:24, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240918122400","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20240918122400-Hey_man_im_josh-20240918121200","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Guessitsavis. I was looking at the Coinrule article just now when I noticed you marked it as reviewed a few hours ago without further tagging. It did not seem like it met the standard for organisations and companies to me, and I was planning to either draftify or nominate it for deletion after I've had time for a proper BEFORE (depending on the results), but as you have reviewed it I wanted to get your opinion before proceeding, and confirm whether you've found some suitable references. Alpha3031 (t • c) 04:16, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930041600","author":"Alpha3031","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alpha3031-20240930041600-Coinrule_review","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20240930113300-Alpha3031-20240930041600"]}}-->

@Alpha3031

Hey there. On my initial once over I thought I saw sufficient independent sources to suggest notability, but after I gave it a good review, I agree with you. Once of the main sources was user-sourced (Forbes), which I didn't notice when I saw it. Thanks for catching that! Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 11:33, 30 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240930113300","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20240930113300-Alpha3031-20240930041600","replies":[]}}-->

I had to notice that on this page, Draft:Resuvonia, You have declined the article. I did NOT make this page, but when I was editing this page, you declined the article. I am not saying that this article is worthy, but I am just informing that I added a reference and added maintenance tags. Cooldudeseven7 (Discuss over a cup of tea?) 11:52, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002115200","author":"Cooldudeseven7","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cooldudeseven7-20241002115200-Notice!","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20241002115700-Cooldudeseven7-20241002115200"]}}-->

Yes, but the references still do not support the notability of the subject, hence it was declined. Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 11:57, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002115700","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20241002115700-Cooldudeseven7-20241002115200","replies":["c-Cooldudeseven7-20241002115900-Guessitsavis-20241002115700"]}}-->

Got it. Thank you! Cooldudeseven7 (Discuss over a cup of tea?) 11:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241002115900","author":"Cooldudeseven7","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cooldudeseven7-20241002115900-Guessitsavis-20241002115700","replies":[]}}-->

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Thank you for the advice on my new page on Draft:Portrait of George Griffin Stonestreet. I was foolishly trying to help a non-Wikipedian friend and took his basic text and formatted it. I will try to clean it up in in a non-plagiaristic way. StewE17 (talk) 14:08, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024140800","author":"StewE17","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-StewE17-20241024140800-Helpful_advice","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20241024173900-StewE17-20241024140800"]}}-->

Alright, sounds good! Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) ^Talk 17:39, 24 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241024173900","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20241024173900-StewE17-20241024140800","replies":[]}}-->

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@Voorts: My apologies, I think Twinkle just automatically marked it when I CSD'd it, and it completely slipped my memory to unreview it. Thanks for telling me! Signed, Guessitsavis (she/they) ^Talk 22:39, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241110223900","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20241110223900-Voorts-20241110215500","replies":["c-Voorts-20241110224100-Guessitsavis-20241110223900"]}}-->

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Yeah, I just found that while digging through my preferences. Not sure how it got turned on though. Thanks again! Signed, Guessitsavis (she/they) ^Talk 22:43, 10 November 2024 (UTC) (edited 22:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC))[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241110224300","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20241110224300-Voorts-20241110224100","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi there, here from Draft:Jocelyn Saunders (nee Muir), which got asked about on the help desk. I can see why you gave this the WP:RS decline, but if you're going to do this for something that doesn't have explicitly non-rs sources, can you make sure you give a more substantial personalized decline reason for the submitter? All they can do is look at this and think "but these are reliable sources", so they're just going to be confused. -- asilvering (talk) 20:14, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241111201400","author":"Asilvering","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Asilvering-20241111201400-Declining_drafts_for_lack_of_reliable_sources","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20241112022400-Asilvering-20241111201400"]}}-->

Hey, unfortunately my memory has been completely shot lately, but looking over it, I think it was more of an ILC and notability problem. Irregardless, I'll definitely try my best to explain my declinments of drafts in the future. Thank you for letting me know! Signed, Guessitsavis (she/they) ^Talk 02:24, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241112022400","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20241112022400-Asilvering-20241111201400","replies":["c-Asilvering-20241112022700-Guessitsavis-20241112022400"]}}-->

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Hi, Guessitsavis, I'll be adding the sources tomorrow. Ninud (talk) 18:45, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241113184500","author":"Ninud","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ninud-20241113184500-Draft:Florencio_Pla_Meseguer","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20241113184800-Ninud-20241113184500"]}}-->

Awesome! Thanks for your followup. Signed, Guessitsavis (she/they) ^Talk 18:48, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241113184800","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20241113184800-Ninud-20241113184500","replies":["c-Ninud-20241114124100-Guessitsavis-20241113184800"]}}-->

I've added the sources to the early life. if you have a minute, could you have a look?

I'm not sure if I chose the right format/templates.

ty! Ninud (talk) 12:41, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241114124100","author":"Ninud","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ninud-20241114124100-Guessitsavis-20241113184800","replies":["c-Guessitsavis-20241115123700-Ninud-20241114124100"]}}-->

Some of the later sections still appear to be unsourced. Do you have sources for those sections? Signed, Guessitsavis (she/they) ^Talk 12:37, 15 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241115123700","author":"Guessitsavis","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Guessitsavis-20241115123700-Ninud-20241114124100","replies":["c-Ninud-20241116075200-Guessitsavis-20241115123700"]}}-->

working on it :)

(it'll take me some time...) Ninud (talk) 07:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241116075200","author":"Ninud","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ninud-20241116075200-Guessitsavis-20241115123700","replies":["c-Ninud-20241116120300-Ninud-20241116075200"]}}-->

i've included all the sources, expanding a bit some parts, and republished the article.

i'll add external links and info about some publications made around his live (books, docus, etc.) tomorrow... Ninud (talk) 12:03, 16 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241116120300","author":"Ninud","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Ninud-20241116120300-Ninud-20241116075200","replies":[]}}-->

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