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Lucy hale's original name is Karen Lucielle Hale I know this information through a source what tells you celebrity's names before they had them shortened and somebody has put that Lucy's name is Lucy Kate Hale I think you need to change this information so nobody else gets confused with names

By Jessica — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jess0108 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 4 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-04T03:45:00.000Z","author":"Jess0108","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jess0108-2013-01-04T03:45:00.000Z-Lucy_Hale_name","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-04T03:52:00.000Z-Jess0108-2013-01-04T03:45:00.000Z","c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-04T03:56:00.000Z-Jess0108-2013-01-04T03:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

There is no reliable source that supports that assertion. Per WP:BLPPRIVACY we need something like an interview with Hale or info from a good reputation news organization. Most web sources don't say where they get their info so have no way of verifying accuracy. See talk page of article for more. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:52, 4 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-04T03:52:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-04T03:52:00.000Z-Jess0108-2013-01-04T03:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(I copied above to User talk:Jess0108 to keep conversation in the context of info message I added to that page about this issue) --Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:56, 4 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-04T03:56:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-04T03:56:00.000Z-Jess0108-2013-01-04T03:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I edited the page for "Teen Beach Musical" because the name was changed to "Teen Beach Movie". I got this information from the actors themselves months ago, and recently the teaser trailer for it was released: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMhODQ4dpyU&feature=share&list=UUhZbSVsIjxMS_0FKJe2a9Ww And it is Teen Beach Movie. Hope the title of the article can be edited. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ineeee (talk • contribs) 14:03, 8 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-08T14:03:00.000Z","author":"Ineeee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ineeee-2013-01-08T14:03:00.000Z-Teen_Beach_Movie","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-08T16:09:00.000Z-Ineeee-2013-01-08T14:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

The videos on the net showing the trailer are not hosted by Disney or some other reliable source that can verify the accuracy and truthfulness of the trailer. It is still much to easy to fake this type of thing so unless the video is hosted by a reliable source (or YouTube official account of one) we can't use it as a reference. All official Disney sources still show the name as "Teen Beach Musical" as does IMDb. I looked for the trailer on a Disney official site and found nothing.

(copied above to Talk:Teen Beach Musical for others to comment on as well) Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:09, 8 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-08T16:09:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-08T16:09:00.000Z-Ineeee-2013-01-08T14:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The trailer aired on cable. Here is another video of someone filming a TV while it plays: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6B-ToBU_1lA

But if it's needed to wait until Disney Channel to upload the website for it, that's ok. Just wanted everyone to know that the name had been changed. The actors went to the screening of the movie, and they told us the name had been changed.

Anyway, thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.28.121.30 (talk) 17:21, 8 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-08T17:21:00.000Z","author":"181.28.121.30","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-181.28.121.30-2013-01-08T17:21:00.000Z-Teen_Beach_Movie","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you! Trying to learn how to cite quotes and post updates so I can update information for Artist Management clients. Can the last Jake update be put back with the Copyrighted text in question omitted so I don't have to redo the entire post with all of the other citations? I had thought that citing the text back to another Wikepedia site was permissible. That was an extraordinary amount of work to have to start over with from scratch again. Please advise. Llowey (talk) 02:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)llowey — Preceding unsigned comment added by Llowey (talk • contribs)

Replied to same message at User talk:Llowey --Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:40, 10 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-10T02:40:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-10T02:40:00.000Z-Jake_Short","replies":[]}}-->

I am very possitive that the post i made to olivia holt is correct if you need proof that this information is correct view this source Anastasiya twitter page https://twitter.com/Isabella Marra — Preceding unsigned comment added by Olivia Officlal (talk • contribs) 04:26, 13 January 2013‎ (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-13T04:26:00.000Z","author":"Olivia Officlal","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Olivia_Officlal-2013-01-13T04:26:00.000Z-Olivia_Holt","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-13T04:48:00.000Z-Olivia_Officlal-2013-01-13T04:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes we need proof, as the message left on your talk page stated. Proof must meet standards in reliable source. An unverified twitter account, particularly one not controlled by the article subject, is proof of nothing. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:48, 13 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-13T04:48:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-13T04:48:00.000Z-Olivia_Officlal-2013-01-13T04:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just letting you know that I turned down your prod since the article has been at AFD previously, and you can't prod if it's been at AFD before. I created a new AFD discussion with your prod rationale. Ten Pound Hammer • ^{(What did I screw up now?)} 21:09, 14 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-14T21:09:00.000Z","author":"TenPoundHammer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TenPoundHammer-2013-01-14T21:09:00.000Z-Emily_Grace_Reaves","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-14T21:25:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2013-01-14T21:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

I wasn't aware of that. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:25, 14 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-14T21:25:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-14T21:25:00.000Z-TenPoundHammer-2013-01-14T21:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar

For detecting and reverting complex vandalism by User:108.17.46.201 -- hydrox (talk) 23:03, 21 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-21T23:03:00.000Z","author":"Hydrox","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hydrox-2013-01-21T23:03:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-21T23:05:00.000Z-Hydrox-2013-01-21T23:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the barnstar. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:05, 21 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-21T23:05:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-21T23:05:00.000Z-Hydrox-2013-01-21T23:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Mollee Gray plays "Giggles" in Teen Beach Movie(Musical). Giggles is the best friend of Maia Mitchell's character. Mollee Gray is on the Trailer.

She is also credited as "Giggles" on IMDB.

Why was my addition reverted?

Also, here is the lead of the movie explaining why the name was changed: watch.accesshollywood.com/video/ross-lynch-surfs-it-up-in-teen-beach-movie/1889913492001— Preceding unsigned comment added by 181.28.121.30 (talk) 09:05, 22 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-22T09:05:00.000Z","author":"181.28.121.30","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-181.28.121.30-2013-01-22T09:05:00.000Z-Cast_addition_to_Teen_Beach_Movie","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-22T15:20:00.000Z-181.28.121.30-2013-01-22T09:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

See discussion at Talk:Teen Beach Musical about the movie name and why a cast member's comments don't override existing official, well referenced, statements by the producers. When Disney issues a press release or updates their official page for the movie, or hosts a trailer with the new name on an official Disney site we will have an official new name. As for cast lists of future films, IMDb is not a reliable source, see WP:IMDB and WP:RS/IMDB for more. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:20, 22 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-22T15:20:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-22T15:20:00.000Z-181.28.121.30-2013-01-22T09:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry about that, I was only trying to make separate pages for each Fish Hooks season. IMO, the [list] page has a lot of episodes that are ready to be separated into season pages. Is it OK if I revert back to my edit for a better improvement? PM me if you wanna talk. Thanks!

Make a WP:SPLIT proposal on the article talk page and gain consensus first. We generally don't do splits until at least 3 seasons are done but this is always open to discussion. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:39, 26 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-26T18:39:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-26T18:39:00.000Z-List_of_Fish_Hooks_episodes_split","replies":[]}}-->

I'm not quite sure how I'm misreading it. The text says that we may use the slash, not that we have to. The result of using the slash is a mixture of slashes and dashes, which just looks ridiculous to me. Am I missing something? Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:39, 27 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-27T20:39:00.000Z","author":"Kevinbrogers","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kevinbrogers-2013-01-27T20:39:00.000Z-MOS:YEAR","replies":["c-AussieLegend-2013-01-27T20:45:00.000Z-Kevinbrogers-2013-01-27T20:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've just posted to Kevinbrogers' talk page regarding this.[1] --AussieLegend (✉) 20:45, 27 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-27T20:45:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-01-27T20:45:00.000Z-Kevinbrogers-2013-01-27T20:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-27T20:50:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-01-27T20:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

See some discussion about this at User_talk:Geraldo_Perez/Archive_2#Date_Ranges and User_talk:Kwamikagami/Archive_19#Date_ranges. Kwamikagami (talk · contribs) made a massive amount of changes to this format using the slash for periods less than 12 months. Figured as he is one of the major MOS maintaining people with a lot of experience I wouldn't go against what he was doing. Normally I wouldn't care too much but there are a lot of articles that were changed to that. Also your changes back to the ndashes are breaking some links to header anchors which would also need to be fixed. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:50, 27 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-27T20:50:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-27T20:50:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-01-27T20:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kevinbrogers-2013-01-27T20:59:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-27T20:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

I see what Kwamikagami means, but I personally think that the phrasing is a bit vague and can be interpreted either way. Like I said though, if I'm wrong, I'll gladly revert everything back myself. (I've also fixed the header linking to the ndashes in all cases, as far as I can tell.) Kevinbrogers (talk) 20:59, 27 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-27T20:59:00.000Z","author":"Kevinbrogers","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kevinbrogers-2013-01-27T20:59:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-27T20:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-AussieLegend-2013-01-27T21:13:00.000Z-Kevinbrogers-2013-01-27T20:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

There was a MOS discussion specifically about this issue. It is now archived at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers/Archive 139#How to list out a season year of a TV show. --AussieLegend (✉) 21:13, 27 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-27T21:13:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-01-27T21:13:00.000Z-Kevinbrogers-2013-01-27T20:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-27T21:29:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-01-27T21:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the link. Basically don't use slash unless reliable source uses that format seems to be the unrebutted conclusion there. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:29, 27 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-27T21:29:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-27T21:29:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-01-27T21:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I am writing in reference to our previous correspondence below. LOL Social Media Group is the official representative of Caroline Sunshine ([[2]]) and her digital media properties (hence our designation on her official website.) As a part of our digital service to our client, we are to make sure she is accurately represented throughout any associated online properties. Please see her (verified) Twitter account with her official website link http://www.twitter.com/CSunshine (linked to http://www.carolinesunshine.com) to resolve any questions of her website's validity. Should you need anything further please let me know. Thank you! LOLAmanda (talk) 18:39, 29 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-29T18:39:00.000Z","author":"LOLAmanda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LOLAmanda-2013-01-29T18:39:00.000Z-Verification_of_official_website","replies":[]}}-->

Please do not add inappropriate external links to Wikipedia, as you did to Caroline Sunshine. Wikipedia is not a collection of links, nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Inappropriate links include (but are not limited to) links to personal web sites, links to web sites with which you are affiliated, and links that attract visitors to a web site or promote a product. See the external links guideline and spam guideline for further explanations. Because Wikipedia uses the nofollow attribute value, its external links are disregarded by most search engines. If you feel the link should be added to the page, please discuss it on the associated talk page rather than re-adding it. Thank you. Your user name looks similar to the company that runs the website you added to the article. Too many posers to trust a self-declared "official" site assertion. Would need to see a reliable source support that site as being hers. A verified twitter link to the site would also do. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:54, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

I added the links to the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:11, 29 January 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-01-29T19:11:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-01-29T19:11:00.000Z-Verification_of_official_website","replies":[]}}-->

{{talkback|Talk:List of Disney Channel series|Announced pilots}} It would be great if you could put your thoughts into this. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 18:34, 11 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-11T18:34:00.000Z","author":"WP Editor 2012","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WP_Editor_2012-2013-02-11T18:34:00.000Z-Talkback","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, you might be interested in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Jake Cinoa. --AussieLegend (✉) 15:39, 19 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-19T15:39:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-02-19T15:39:00.000Z-Good_Luck_Charlie","replies":[]}}-->

I hath been schooled on the Zap2It. :) My primary concern was preventing edits that seemed motivated by a need to "get the scoop", and since we were talking about episodes that are slated to air a month from now, TBAs seemed reasonable if there was some hostility over sources (Zap2It vs TWC, edit summary "NO!"). Cyphoidbomb (talk) 16:40, 27 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-27T16:40:00.000Z","author":"Cyphoidbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cyphoidbomb-2013-02-27T16:40:00.000Z-List_of_Shake_It_Up_episodes_-_future_airdates","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-02-27T16:53:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2013-02-27T16:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

We always have this problem with TWC. Good for episode titles, unusable for broadcast dates as they are not a broadcaster. I strongly agree with you about not getting the scoop and generally support what you were doing. It is just that, in this case, Zap2It is a very good reliable source as it is the program guide linked to by Disney sites when you go there for programming info. Now if TV Guide disagreed, and they don't here, there might be a conflict we should wait out. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:53, 27 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-27T16:53:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-02-27T16:53:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2013-02-27T16:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cyphoidbomb-2013-02-27T17:37:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-02-27T16:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Coolio. I appreciate your feedback. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 17:37, 27 February 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-02-27T17:37:00.000Z","author":"Cyphoidbomb","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cyphoidbomb-2013-02-27T17:37:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-02-27T16:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear My Name Is M.SAAD.

I Have prodied realiable source to every epiosdes or Air Date I Have provided.... Here's a link U Can Verift it here....

http://www.toonzone.net/forums/cartoon-network-cartoon-forum/301844-cartoon-network-march-2013-premiere-info.html#.UTKOnaKl61Z.

Regards — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saad12345 (talk • contribs) 00:09, 3 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-03T00:09:00.000Z","author":"Saad12345","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Saad12345-2013-03-03T00:09:00.000Z-Episode_List_Of_Ben_10_Omniverse","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-03T00:12:00.000Z-Saad12345-2013-03-03T00:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

No you haven't. That is just some random anonymous person posting on an open forum. Could be you for all we know. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:12, 3 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-03T00:12:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-03T00:12:00.000Z-Saad12345-2013-03-03T00:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

All right than we will see the schedule of episodes of Ben 10 Omniverse in March,, then we will find out whose source is reliable..... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saad12345 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 3 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-03T04:05:00.000Z","author":"Saad12345","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Saad12345-2013-03-03T04:05:00.000Z-Episode_List_Of_Ben_10_Omniverse","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-03T04:22:00.000Z-Saad12345-2013-03-03T04:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

We'll know it is valid when Derrick J Wyatt at formspring posts something or Futon Critic, Zap2It or TV Guide show it in the schedule; or it actually airs. Stuff you get from some unknown person posting on a forum might be correct or might be totally bogus, we can't know so don't trust any of it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:22, 3 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-03T04:22:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-03T04:22:00.000Z-Saad12345-2013-03-03T04:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

All Right...... Next Time i will edit wid more reliable sources...... Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saad12345 (talk • contribs) 06:54, 3 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-03T06:54:00.000Z","author":"Saad12345","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Saad12345-2013-03-03T06:54:00.000Z-Episode_List_Of_Ben_10_Omniverse","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Geraldo, Could you please give me some reliable URLs to use in an article. I would appreciate it greatly, thank you. -Srossm2000 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Srossm2000 (talk • contribs) 20:30, 5 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-05T20:30:00.000Z","author":"Srossm2000","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Srossm2000-2013-03-05T20:30:00.000Z-Reliable_Sources","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-05T20:39:00.000Z-Srossm2000-2013-03-05T20:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Replied in context of existing conversation on Srossm2000 user talk page. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:39, 5 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-05T20:39:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-05T20:39:00.000Z-Srossm2000-2013-03-05T20:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Baby Steps was not directed by Tommy Thompson it was directed by Bob Koherr L. 0035 (talk) 09:12, 6 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-06T09:12:00.000Z","author":"Liam0035","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liam0035-2013-03-06T09:12:00.000Z-That's_Not_Right","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-06T16:20:00.000Z-Liam0035-2013-03-06T09:12:00.000Z"],"displayName":"L. 0035"}}-->

I generally trust your edits with respect to director and writing credits. I don't remember undoing one. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:20, 6 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-06T16:20:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-06T16:20:00.000Z-Liam0035-2013-03-06T09:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

When can we start a page for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boy_Meets_World#Spin-off. it has been created but keeps getting redirected. I saw somewhere that it was picked up. Have not done much looking itno this though. I think its time for a page. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 13:32, 6 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-06T13:32:00.000Z","author":"WP Editor 2012","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WP_Editor_2012-2013-03-06T13:32:00.000Z-Girl_Meets_world","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-06T16:33:00.000Z-WP_Editor_2012-2013-03-06T13:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

There looks to be sufficient coverage in reliable third-party sources like TV Guide and Zap2it to meet general notability guidelines for a stand-alone article now. If a new article is created from the contents of Boy Meets World#Spin-off we need to ensure that the rules in WP:CWW are followed - edit history must say where content came from. We can't base an article on primary sources like twitter and tumblr but they can be used for supplemental info. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:33, 6 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-06T16:33:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-06T16:33:00.000Z-WP_Editor_2012-2013-03-06T13:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please block User:67.10.198.215 They're also vandalizing an election article I'm working on. Ratemonth (talk) 02:09, 7 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-07T02:09:00.000Z","author":"Ratemonth","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ratemonth-2013-03-07T02:09:00.000Z-User:67.10.198.215","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-07T02:13:00.000Z-Ratemonth-2013-03-07T02:09:00.000Z","c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-07T04:30:00.000Z-Ratemonth-2013-03-07T02:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not an admin so I am unable to do that. Best to take it to WP:AIV and report the IP there. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:13, 7 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-07T02:13:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-07T02:13:00.000Z-Ratemonth-2013-03-07T02:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

He is likely an IP sock of McYel (talk · contribs) who was indefinitely blocked. He is likely using his own twitter postings to support his bogus info additions to wiki articles. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:30, 7 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-07T04:30:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-07T04:30:00.000Z-Ratemonth-2013-03-07T02:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Geraldo. Regarding your request. If it is all the same to you, it is better for me as the admin handling these requests to get it through WP:RM/TR rather than using WP:CSD#G6. The TR process automatically creates an informative entry in the move log, it protects the admin from making spelling errors in the new title, and it reminds me why I took the action. It also lets anybody who wants to review a whole set of technical moves to get a summary from the history of WP:RM/TR. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 20:11, 11 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-11T20:11:00.000Z","author":"EdJohnston","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-EdJohnston-2013-03-11T20:11:00.000Z-G6","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-11T20:17:00.000Z-EdJohnston-2013-03-11T20:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll do it that way in the future. db-move is supported by Twinkle so I thought it was the preferred and simpler way. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:17, 11 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-11T20:17:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-11T20:17:00.000Z-EdJohnston-2013-03-11T20:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The US Copyright Office has some official production codes you can use to affirm the episode listings for Austin & Ally. LINK They don't have all the second season ones listed but you can use it to shore up the first season ones. -AngusWOOF (talk) 16:51, 18 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-18T16:51:00.000Z","author":"AngusWOOF","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T16:51:00.000Z-Austin_&_Ally_production_codes","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T16:55:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T16:51:00.000Z","c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T16:57:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T16:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks good. This search may be better as a single cite that supports all they have instead of separate cites to each individual episode. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:55, 18 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-18T16:55:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T16:55:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T16:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Looks like link to search results is transient and can't be depended on. I wonder if there is a way to fix that. Would be best to have a single cite for all the production codes if possible. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:57, 18 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-18T16:57:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T16:57:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T16:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T17:06:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T16:57:00.000Z","c-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T17:10:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T16:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

If you want you can post a reference saying that those particular production codes are confirmed by the United States Copyright Office, then the link won't be necessary it won't be so dependent on "search results" for the individual records. I don't know if they have a better way of listing them like they do for some library system entries. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:06, 18 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-18T17:06:00.000Z","author":"AngusWOOF","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T17:06:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T16:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

There might be a way to do that with webcite or something. I agree with you the references can be combined with your sorted search that you listed. -AngusWOOF (talk) 17:10, 18 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-18T17:10:00.000Z","author":"AngusWOOF","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T17:10:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T16:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T17:17:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T17:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

You're right that an actual link is not necessary but it is always a good idea to give other editors some help to verify info, particularly when I know that other codes will be added with that claim that won't actually be supported there. I suggest a web cite with the URL link to http://cocatalog.loc.gov and additional info in the cite to search for "DISNEY AUSTIN & ALLY". That should be short, sufficient and easy to use for verification. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:17, 18 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-18T17:17:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-18T17:17:00.000Z-AngusWOOF-2013-03-18T17:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello. Why are you ALWAYS spying on me? You are always blocking me and it's like you wanna win 'anti-vandalism' points for it. LET ME ALONE, I'M SOOOO TIRED. SOME CHANGES I DO ARE NOT FOR VANDALISM JUST FOR HELP !! And you are not the boss of Wikipedia, ok? You are sooo mad. Bye. Headstrong4ever (talk) 19:48, 24 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-24T19:48:00.000Z","author":"Headstrong4ever","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T19:48:00.000Z-WHO_DO_YOU_THINK_U_ARE?","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-24T19:51:00.000Z-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T19:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

He can communicate - lots of people were wondering for a while. Nobody said any of your edits were vandalism. Some of your edits were just disruptive in that some didn't follow Wikipedia policy and guidelines. That causes other editors time and effort to clean those up. You appeared to ignore attempts to explain stuff on your talk page. 2 things to help: don't change genres without a reference and explain what you are doing in edit summaries. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:51, 24 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-24T19:51:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-24T19:51:00.000Z-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T19:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Okey but you are puting down EVERYTHING I EDIT. For example, 'Selena Gomez discography' with Disney separation. Sorry but i don't understand the first phrase of your comment. Some times i just don't find the genre source but it's too obious. I just want to know why you are blocking me EVERYTIME. And can you add her the electropop genre? I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE I'M JUST SURE THAT SOMEBODY IT'S GONNA PUT IT DOWN. I think i just need help. Headstrong4ever (talk) 20:16, 24 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-24T20:16:00.000Z","author":"Headstrong4ever","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T20:16:00.000Z-WHO_DO_YOU_THINK_U_ARE?","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-24T20:31:00.000Z-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T20:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

I can't block you as I am not an administrator. I want to help you become a better editor.

There is a process for doing article splits that we need to follow. Must at least say what you are doing in edit histories of old and new articles.

A genre obvious to you is still just your opinion. Find a published review that says what the genre is and use it as a reference. Or start a discussion on the talk page to see if other editors agree. It might be best for now to not change any genres as this may lead to further blocks.

It is good to ask for help and talk with other editors. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:31, 24 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-24T20:31:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-24T20:31:00.000Z-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T20:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Okey so... can you help me? I just don't know how it runs well. Headstrong4ever (talk) 20:47, 24 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-24T20:47:00.000Z","author":"Headstrong4ever","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T20:47:00.000Z-WHO_DO_YOU_THINK_U_ARE?","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-24T21:03:00.000Z-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T20:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

I and other editors have been trying to help. If one of your edits gets undone read what the edit summary was that explained why. If you don't understand, ask the editor on his talk page. Use edit summaries on all your edits to explain why you made that edit so others don't have to guess. Just being willing to talk to other editors goes a long way to becoming a better editor. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:03, 24 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-24T21:03:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-24T21:03:00.000Z-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-24T20:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you so much! I'm deleting this talk section soon, ok? Headstrong4ever (talk) 00:50, 25 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-25T00:50:00.000Z","author":"Headstrong4ever","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-25T00:50:00.000Z-WHO_DO_YOU_THINK_U_ARE?","replies":["c-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T18:47:00.000Z-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-25T00:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Is it bad that, given the subject matter that Headstrong4ever was involved in, I immediately thought of "Jar of Hearts" when I saw this heading? Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 18:47, 25 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-25T18:47:00.000Z","author":"Lukeno94","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T18:47:00.000Z-Headstrong4ever-2013-03-25T00:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-25T18:51:00.000Z-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T18:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

Chuckle. Yes, you are a bad bad person. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:51, 25 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-25T18:51:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-25T18:51:00.000Z-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T18:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T19:34:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-25T18:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

• :( *hides in hole*. By the way, you did fantastically with this user, you tried your hardest to WP:AGF and help someone that the majority of us - including myself - had given up on. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:34, 25 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-25T19:34:00.000Z","author":"Lukeno94","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T19:34:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-25T18:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-25T19:46:00.000Z-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T19:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. I think blocking him was unnecessary and I think he was finally trying learn how to edit here correctly. If he requests an unblock and explains that he won't do the stuff that led to the block, I think he should be given another chance. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:46, 25 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-25T19:46:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-25T19:46:00.000Z-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T19:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T19:49:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-25T19:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Sadly, I disagree, although I do think the blocking admin cited the wrong thing. Besides, indefinite is not infinite, and if an admin is convinced that they won't be returning to these actions, then of course they can get unblocked - but they'll need watching, at least for a while. Lukeno94 (tell Luke off here) 19:49, 25 March 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-03-25T19:49:00.000Z","author":"Lukeno94","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Lukeno94-2013-03-25T19:49:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-03-25T19:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please stop removing content from my episodes page. It is because the list of episodes belongs on a new page--user HH (talk) 00:35, 1 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-01T00:35:00.000Z","author":"Hits hits","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hits_hits-2013-04-01T00:35:00.000Z-Persistant_Removel_of_Content_on_List_of_Max_Steel_episodes_(2013)","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-01T00:39:00.000Z-Hits_hits-2013-04-01T00:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"user HH"}}-->

As I explained many times on your talk page, please follow the process described at WP:PROSPLIT and the rules at WP:CWW and I am much less likely to undo your unattributed copy of contents from one page to another. I explained all this on your talk page. Trivially easy to do and your instance on not following the process and policy troubling. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:39, 1 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-01T00:39:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-01T00:39:00.000Z-Hits_hits-2013-04-01T00:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Geraldo Perez. You have new messages at Template_talk:Infobox_television#Last_Aired.
Message added 14:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hi Geraldo, I wanted to invite your opinion about the oft-abused "last_aired" infobox field, if you're interested in weighing in. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 14:56, 1 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-01T14:56:00.000Z","author":"Cyphoidbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cyphoidbomb-2013-04-01T14:56:00.000Z-Talkback_2","replies":[]}}-->

What do you mean by ep. details on List of Pac-Man episodes user HH (talk) 21:31, 5 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-05T21:31:00.000Z","author":"Hits hits","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hits_hits-2013-04-05T21:31:00.000Z-List_of_Pac-Man_and_the_Ghostly_Adventures_episodes","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-05T22:18:00.000Z-Hits_hits-2013-04-05T21:31:00.000Z"],"displayName":"user HH"}}-->

That means at least the actual names of some episodes and scheduled airdates preferably as referenced from some episode guide. What is in the episode guide before it was redirected was just a restatement of info that belongs in the main TV series article. There is nothing in the list of episodes article that justified a need for it now. What you have now is 26 episodes are planned with planned start date of September 7, 2013. That one sentence, with references to support it, belongs in the lede of the main article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:18, 5 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-05T22:18:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-05T22:18:00.000Z-Hits_hits-2013-04-05T21:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

They announced the official date AND running time here. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIRi-cmDKBk Go to 0:48 on the video. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GermanDude100 (talk • contribs) 20:53, 10 April 2013‎ (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-10T20:53:00.000Z","author":"GermanDude100","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GermanDude100-2013-04-10T20:53:00.000Z-List_of_Pac-Man_and_the_Ghostly_Adventures_episodes","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-10T21:14:00.000Z-GermanDude100-2013-04-10T20:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

The person they interviewed "Veronica", the brand manager for "Pacman and the Ghostly Adventure" is not listed on the production web-site http://www.41e.tv/en/home as someone who speaks for the company. Her statement that the runtime is 26 minutes conflicts with http://www.41e.tv/en/our_product/5/pac_man_and_the_ghostly_adventures_26_x_22 which is from the production website. I consider that discrepancy significant in undermining her overall credibility as a source of information. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:14, 10 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-10T21:14:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-10T21:14:00.000Z-GermanDude100-2013-04-10T20:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Geraldo. You seem to know a thing or two about television stuff. I was wondering if you might take a look at these edits I've reverted them twice for lack of references, but some of them look a little sketchy to me--some of the Nickelodeon movies, for example, and that many of these movies are live-action, not cartoons. I'd like to avoid an edit war and the IP editor hasn't addressed my objection by providing references. If you get a second to check it out I could use another set of eyes. Thanks! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:05, 13 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-13T02:05:00.000Z","author":"Cyphoidbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cyphoidbomb-2013-04-13T02:05:00.000Z-List_of_programs_broadcast_by_Cartoon_Network_(Latin_America)","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-13T02:24:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2013-04-13T02:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Most of the additions look real dubious. I strongly doubt that any non-cartoon film was ever shown on this network. If he continues to refuse to provide any proof of those dubious claims and continues to ignore requests for references, it may eventually warrant a block for disruptive editing. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:24, 13 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-13T02:24:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-13T02:24:00.000Z-Cyphoidbomb-2013-04-13T02:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cyphoidbomb-2013-04-13T02:57:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-13T02:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Cool, thanks. I didn't want to make an assumption about the content, but I thought it was reasonable to request a source. I appreciate the assist! Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-13T02:57:00.000Z","author":"Cyphoidbomb","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cyphoidbomb-2013-04-13T02:57:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-13T02:24:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Heya, I got some help about this IP vandal yesterday after noticing a spate of funky edits (surname changes, weird formatting) across a variety of pages, which, like you, I also could not confirm. The short story:

 Checking... I'mve researchinged the edit history of: 200.82.224.124 (talk · contribs · WHOIS) I'll let you know what I conclude by the end of the day Below is what I found. Technical 13 (talk) 18:36, 17 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-17T18:36:00.000Z","author":"Technical 13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Technical_13-2013-04-17T18:36:00.000Z-200.82.224.124","replies":["c-Technical_13-2013-04-17T18:46:00.000Z-Technical_13-2013-04-17T18:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wow, based on the timestamps that IP is definitely using some automated bot process to make that many back-to-back edits to the same page withing seconds. Reporting it to WP:AIAV. Technical 13 (talk) 18:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-17T18:46:00.000Z","author":"Technical 13","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Technical_13-2013-04-17T18:46:00.000Z-Technical_13-2013-04-17T18:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Take it easy, Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:57, 18 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-18T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Cyphoidbomb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cyphoidbomb-2013-04-18T19:57:00.000Z-200.82.224.124","replies":[]}}-->

For letting me know that what i added should be in the characters article. Appreciate you explaining why my edit was reverted. A lot of people don't so i appreciate it. 76.112.171.105 (talk) 07:59, 27 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-27T07:59:00.000Z","author":"76.112.171.105","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.112.171.105-2013-04-27T07:59:00.000Z-Thanks","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-27T22:09:00.000Z-76.112.171.105-2013-04-27T07:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

You're welcome. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:09, 27 April 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-04-27T22:09:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-04-27T22:09:00.000Z-76.112.171.105-2013-04-27T07:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I get all of my information from IMDB(mostly from), I plus I also own the DVDs and you know allways towards the end of the movie or show there are credits, how can't a DVD be a source, so all of my edits that you have delete were correct. and one time I did put a source in, but my edit got deleted. I do not trust this site some times. It take forever for someone to correct the info. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.219.206.229 (talk) 01:36, 1 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-01T01:36:00.000Z","author":"72.219.206.229","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-72.219.206.229-2013-05-01T01:36:00.000Z-my_edits_are_correct.","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-01T01:50:00.000Z-72.219.206.229-2013-05-01T01:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

At the time I couldn't verify that credit. That credit has been in the article now since last December. A note in the edit summary when you add stuff like that could help with verification. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:50, 1 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-01T01:50:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-01T01:50:00.000Z-72.219.206.229-2013-05-01T01:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

your edits are superb

Bimfolu10 (talk) 23:39, 3 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-03T23:39:00.000Z","author":"Bimfolu10","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bimfolu10-2013-05-03T23:39:00.000Z-A_kitten_for_you!","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-04T00:17:00.000Z-Bimfolu10-2013-05-03T23:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:17, 4 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-04T00:17:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-04T00:17:00.000Z-Bimfolu10-2013-05-03T23:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I accidentally saved it when I was fooling around with the previews. I didn't know it happened. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kennywood fan (talk • contribs) 22:31, 8 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-08T22:31:00.000Z","author":"Kennywood fan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kennywood_fan-2013-05-08T22:31:00.000Z-Sorry","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-08T22:42:00.000Z-Kennywood_fan-2013-05-08T22:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's cool, I've done that too. I've started checking the edit history after each of my edits to check for that my edits reflect what I really wanted to do.

You should use an edit summary, though, to let others know what you are trying to do. I might have been able to fix things instead of reverting if I knew what you wanted to accomplish.

Also, somewhat related, the articles List of programs broadcast by Disney Channel and List of Disney Channel series have confusing to me ledes that don't describe clearly what should be in each article. The two articles seem a bit redundant and it would be great if the inclusion criteria were better described. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:42, 8 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-08T22:42:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-08T22:42:00.000Z-Kennywood_fan-2013-05-08T22:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Geraldo Perez (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

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Request reason:

Requesting an IP address block exemption, because I am editing using a VPN for security at a unsecured public wifi access point. The exit IP of the VPN service I am using (Hotspot VPN) is in a hard blocked range. Geraldo Perez (talk) 6:17 pm, Yesterday (UTC−5)

Accept reason:

IPBE granted. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:19, 10 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-10T15:19:00.000Z","author":"DoRD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DoRD-2013-05-10T15:19:00.000Z-IP_block_exemption_request","replies":[]}}-->

I have granted your account an exemption from IP blocking. This will allow you to edit through full blocks affecting your IP address when you are logged in.

Please read the page Wikipedia:IP block exemption carefully, especially the section on IP block exemption conditions.

Note in particular that you are not permitted to use this newly-granted right to edit Wikipedia via anonymous proxies, or disruptively. If you do, or there is a serious concern of abuse, then the right may be removed by any administrator.

Appropriate usage and compliance with the policy may be checked periodically, due to the nature of block exemption, and block exemption will be removed when no longer needed (for example, when the block it is related to expires).

I hope this will enhance your editing, and allow you to edit successfully and without disruption. ​—DoRD (talk)​ 15:19, 10 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-10T15:19:00.000Z","author":"DoRD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DoRD-2013-05-10T15:19:00.000Z-IP_block_exempt","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-10T15:36:00.000Z-DoRD-2013-05-10T15:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. I have read the conditions and will comply to the best of my abilities. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:36, 10 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-10T15:36:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-10T15:36:00.000Z-DoRD-2013-05-10T15:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-10T16:53:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-10T15:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

For the record, the VPN software I am using is AnchorFree Hotspot shield for iOS from AnchorFree. I am using it on my iPad when editing from public WiFi access points for security and for compression using my phone data plan. The exit IPs from their US VPN service are hardblocked. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:53, 10 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-10T16:53:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-10T16:53:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-10T15:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I question most of the episode titles listed there, but I don't care enough about Elmo's World to do any research about it. :) Trivialist (talk) 02:39, 11 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-11T02:39:00.000Z","author":"Trivialist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Trivialist-2013-05-11T02:39:00.000Z-Elmo's_World","replies":[]}}-->

I'm new to wikipedia how do you put pictures on infoboxes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Frankyonfarm (talk • contribs) 00:40, 18 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-18T00:40:00.000Z","author":"Frankyonfarm","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Frankyonfarm-2013-05-18T00:40:00.000Z-help","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-18T00:47:00.000Z-Frankyonfarm-2013-05-18T00:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

See WP:Picture tutorial for general info about how to put pictures in articles. Then look at an existing article that has a picture in the infobox by opening it with edit to see how they did it and follow that example. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:47, 18 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-18T00:47:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-18T00:47:00.000Z-Frankyonfarm-2013-05-18T00:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can you show me the rules that prevent us from placing a persons ethnicity in the main title.shiznaw (talk) 22:23, 23 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-23T22:23:00.000Z","author":"Shiznaw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shiznaw-2013-05-23T22:23:00.000Z-Ethnicity_in_lede","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-23T22:46:00.000Z-Shiznaw-2013-05-23T22:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

See WP:OPENPARA. Ethnicity is only in the lede if it is a major reason a person is notable such as first person of this ethnicity to do something important. See Spike Lee vs. Barack Obama. Nationality is a standard part of lede and should always be there. American is a nationality, African American is an ethnicity. If ethnicity is that important it should be fully explained why in the body of the article otherwise it is just incidental info. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:46, 23 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-23T22:46:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-23T22:46:00.000Z-Shiznaw-2013-05-23T22:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

My page, Christian Billboard (June 1, 2013), has been recently deleted, do you think that you can have a page with the information as another website and put references to go with it? I really want my page back! Thank you, Candygarret (talk) 17:46, 24 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-24T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Candygarret","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Candygarret-2013-05-24T17:46:00.000Z-Help!","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-24T18:16:00.000Z-Candygarret-2013-05-24T17:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

I see you are already conversing with JohnCD (talk · contribs) at Wikipedia:Requests for undeletion#Christian Billboard (June 1, 2013). You may wish to ask him for further assistance on his talk page at User talk:JohnCD. Also it would be good to read the article at "the guide to writing your first article" as suggested on the information messages currently on your talk page. There is a lot of information there about writing an acceptable-to-wiki article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:16, 24 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-24T18:16:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-24T18:16:00.000Z-Candygarret-2013-05-24T17:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank You! Candygarret (talk) 18:20, 24 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-24T18:20:00.000Z","author":"Candygarret","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Candygarret-2013-05-24T18:20:00.000Z-Help!","replies":[]}}-->

I don't know how to upload a image file, I read it on Wikipedia but I don't understand it. Kennywood fan (talk) 15:22, 25 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-25T15:22:00.000Z","author":"Kennywood fan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kennywood_fan-2013-05-25T15:22:00.000Z-Help_2","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-25T15:49:00.000Z-Kennywood_fan-2013-05-25T15:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

For images of living people see Commons:Special:UploadWizard which gives good info on uploading free-use images (basically pictures you took yourself) to Wikipedia Commons. You need an account on Commons to do this. See Commons:Special:UserLogin/signup.

For pictures you didn't take yourself such as album covers for album articles see Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard. See WP:Picture tutorial for how to insert images in articles. Wikipedia:Uploading images is a full explanation but is fairly technical.

Don't upload images to Commons that don't meet Commons requirements. Don't upload images on Wikipedia that you can't justify as a fair-use exception to copyright. Look for other images similar to the ones you uploaded to see what a fair-use rational looks like and make sure your images have one. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:49, 25 May 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-05-25T15:49:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-05-25T15:49:00.000Z-Kennywood_fan-2013-05-25T15:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I saw you edit on the sam and cat page. sophia grace and rosie will be on the show for at least 2 episodes. As fars as what episode, I believe it is 103 and 108 or so. But I agree it shouldn't be added in yet as we can't use wiki as a reference. As for the refference from the ellen show. I am not 100% sure when it was recored. If it was during production of thier first episode or after. So it may not be dated correct. Anyway I just wanted to let you know they will be on. WP Editor 2012 (talk) 14:17, 3 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-03T14:17:00.000Z","author":"WP Editor 2012","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WP_Editor_2012-2013-06-03T14:17:00.000Z-sophia_grace_and_rosie","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-03T15:17:00.000Z-WP_Editor_2012-2013-06-03T14:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

So far only assertions and no references that give enough info so they can be verified. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:17, 3 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-03T15:17:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-03T15:17:00.000Z-WP_Editor_2012-2013-06-03T14:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I'm so sorry. I had just found some very helpful information about this article to add and so I did without having read whole Wikipedia's policy.
P.S. By the way, can you tell me if the source in my sandbox is proper to be added there? Thanks. ICarlytranslator (talk) 13:25, 22 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-22T13:25:00.000Z","author":"ICarlytranslator","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ICarlytranslator-2013-06-22T13:25:00.000Z-About_the_article_List_of_Sam_&_Cat_episodes","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-22T16:21:00.000Z-ICarlytranslator-2013-06-22T13:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

No the sources you use at your sandbox include wikias and IMDb. Those are not reliable sources as I noted in my previous messages on your talk page. Any info you add to the article using those sources as references will be removed. Best to stick with Zap2it, Futon Critic and TV Guide as sources of info for future episodes. Also anything you find at an official Nickelodeon (nick.com) or Viacom (viacom.com) web site will likely be OK as well. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:21, 22 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-22T16:21:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-22T16:21:00.000Z-ICarlytranslator-2013-06-22T13:25:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks again and I'm sorry interrupting you. ICarlytranslator (talk) 06:53, 23 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-23T06:53:00.000Z","author":"ICarlytranslator","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ICarlytranslator-2013-06-23T06:53:00.000Z-About_the_article_List_of_Sam_&_Cat_episodes","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-23T07:03:00.000Z-ICarlytranslator-2013-06-23T06:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hey, no problem. Always glad to help. Geraldo Perez (talk) 07:03, 23 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-23T07:03:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-23T07:03:00.000Z-ICarlytranslator-2013-06-23T06:53:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Cyrina Fiallo's Twitter account may be unverified at the moment, but she is followed by Leigh-Allyn Baker and Coco Jones, whose accounts are verified. Some I'm pretty sure the episode info from Ms. Fiallo's account is geniune. QuasyBoy (talk) 23:23, 16 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-16T23:23:00.000Z","author":"QuasyBoy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-QuasyBoy-2013-06-16T23:23:00.000Z-Removal_of_Twitter_references","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-16T23:49:00.000Z-QuasyBoy-2013-06-16T23:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Followed by a known co-worker should be fine but that should be explained, at least as a comment in the reference, why and how that unverified twitter can be trusted to be that person, and what role that person plays in the show to use that info as a primary source of inside info. Also, I don't think we should use scripts as a reference for show titles for the same reason ShowFax is discouraged – they are works in progress and might not reflect what is in the final production. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:49, 16 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-16T23:49:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-16T23:49:00.000Z-QuasyBoy-2013-06-16T23:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-QuasyBoy-2013-06-16T23:59:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-16T23:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

So you are not a fan of script pages being used as references, OK duely noted. QuasyBoy (talk) 23:59, 16 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-16T23:59:00.000Z","author":"QuasyBoy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-QuasyBoy-2013-06-16T23:59:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-16T23:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I just want to bring up one more thing. Since "Rat-A-Teddy" has aired now, is it OK to use this photo posted by Ms. Fiallo as a reference solely for the production code: [3]. If not, I'll just remove the entire production code column from the season 4 section, since it is completely blank at the moment. In addition, the director and writer info from the script page, was in fact correct from the actual aired episode. QuasyBoy (talk) 01:18, 23 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-23T01:18:00.000Z","author":"QuasyBoy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-QuasyBoy-2013-06-23T01:18:00.000Z-Removal_of_Twitter_references","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-24T01:32:00.000Z-QuasyBoy-2013-06-23T01:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Use the tweet for the production code if you wish. Just put a comment in the reference about why a non-verified twitter is trusted as coming from a show insider. I'm pretty sure that the only time a production code will not match a script is if two productions are merged for presentation and a different code is assigned for the merged productions. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-24T01:32:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-24T01:32:00.000Z-QuasyBoy-2013-06-23T01:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-QuasyBoy-2013-06-23T01:48:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-24T01:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Cool, will do. QuasyBoy (talk) 01:48, 23 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-23T01:48:00.000Z","author":"QuasyBoy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-QuasyBoy-2013-06-23T01:48:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-24T01:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hey Geraldo, i need you to check the Omniverse Page to see if it needs any "changes". TheSifisoNader —Preceding undated comment added 03:06, 24 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-24T03:06:00.000Z","author":"TheSifisoNader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheSifisoNader-2013-06-24T03:06:00.000Z-Ben_10_Omniverse_Episodes","replies":[]}}-->

The article also said that Hannah Montana and Wizards of Waverly Place had 100 episodes, but those shows had 98 and 106 episodes, respectively. Jon23812 (talk) 00:23, 28 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-28T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Jon23812","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jon23812-2013-06-28T00:23:00.000Z-Good_Luck_Charlie_Episode_Number","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-28T00:43:00.000Z-Jon23812-2013-06-28T00:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

True, but what was in the reference was pretty explicit. If we second guess the reference using info outside it we are synthesizing info from multiple sources and we are not supposed to do that as WP: OR. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:43, 28 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-28T00:43:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-28T00:43:00.000Z-Jon23812-2013-06-28T00:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Geraldo, please let me know what parts of the article do not fit into Wikipedia's guidelines for neutral point of view. The article is a simple list of events that accurately show the television shows and films that Nikki Hahn has appeared in. I have also included references to reliable sources including iMDb and news articles. Also, some unnamed user continually edits the birth date. Nikki is 10 years old. Almahahn (talk) 17:26, 29 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-29T17:26:00.000Z","author":"Almahahn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Almahahn-2013-06-29T17:26:00.000Z-Nikki_Hahn","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-29T17:45:00.000Z-Almahahn-2013-06-29T17:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

As long as it is just a list and factual info derived from references it should be OK. The problem with being personally involved and neutral point of view is the selection of what info to include. Doubtful that there is anything negative about a young person but the general problem is people close to subjects tend to select only positive info and not give a neutral coverage. Actor articles see info on only good reviews not poor ones for example.

As for IMDb, don't use it as a reference. See WP:RS/IMDB. IMDb is in the external links section of the article for people who what to check credits. IMDb is updated by anonymous people. For credits the primary source of credit info is the released project itself where all the credits are listed. Generally that is what gets transcribed in IMDb.

Future credits or info on work on unreleased films/shows must be supported by references to news articles or other reliable sources. If there is no reference (again IMDb can't be used), leave it out.

The person who corrupted the birthdate is a vandal, deliberate misinformation is a common form of vandalism on wiki, and I see you appropriately reverted it. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:45, 29 June 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-06-29T17:45:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-06-29T17:45:00.000Z-Almahahn-2013-06-29T17:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi, saw what you said in the recent Sam & Cat edit. I didn't remove what I added, it was just my brother messing on my account to annoy me. Sorry for the confusion :)

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Hi, I was wondering why Maree Cheatham belongs in the "starring" section at the top, when in the character list, she is a recurring character due to the fact she's not in the opening credits but in the ending. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Playking616 (talk • contribs) 00:51, 15 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-15T00:51:00.000Z","author":"Playking616","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Playking616-2013-07-15T00:51:00.000Z-Sam_&_Cat","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-15T00:58:00.000Z-Playking616-2013-07-15T00:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

She is a starring character as the credit she got in the first episode, while it was in the end credits, said "Starring", not "Guest starring" or "co-starring". Also in the show website here she is listed as one of the 4 main characters. The show producers say who stars in the show and we reflect that in the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-15T00:58:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-15T00:58:00.000Z-Playking616-2013-07-15T00:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just an FYI in case you weren't aware, MOS:SCROLL is the relevant portion of the MOS that discourages these. If you were aware, then I'll I'll just say I hope you're having a good day and keep up the good work. :) --AussieLegend (✉) 04:59, 16 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-16T04:59:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-07-16T04:59:00.000Z-Scrolling_reference_lists","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-16T05:04:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-07-16T04:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, I wasn't aware of that. I just thought it looked non-standard and fairly unmaintainable to imbed that much raw html in wiki articles. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:04, 16 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-16T05:04:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-16T05:04:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-07-16T04:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I saw your reversions today..... A few years ago we went through the same thing, a spate of changes and then nothing until now. It makes no sense. As far as I can see (I have 600 pages on my watchlist) it's not even widespread. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:04, 18 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-18T05:04:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-07-18T05:04:00.000Z-Scrolling_reference_lists","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I have not edited wikipedia in a very long time and I forgot how to put in a resource where I found evidence. Plong26 (talk) 02:46, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T02:46:00.000Z","author":"Plong26","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Plong26-2013-07-21T02:46:00.000Z-Edits","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T02:51:00.000Z-Plong26-2013-07-21T02:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

At a minimum put the url of the supporting reference between <ref> and </ref> tags. Other editors will likely complete the full citation formatting later if the reference and info it supports are valid. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:51, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T02:51:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T02:51:00.000Z-Plong26-2013-07-21T02:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-AussieLegend-2013-07-21T03:42:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T02:51:00.000Z","c-AussieLegend-2013-07-21T07:57:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T02:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hmmmmmm. --AussieLegend (✉) 03:42, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T03:42:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-07-21T03:42:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T02:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Not surprisingly, even after your reply here he edited List of Winx Club episodes, adding content without a source, as well as adding categories to the prose. --AussieLegend (✉) 07:57, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T07:57:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-07-21T07:57:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T02:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T08:20:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-07-21T07:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Plong26 didn't do this. The categories within prose is an artifact of VisualEditor and template:Episode list. Hidden maintenance categories generated by the Episode list template get exposed when VisualEditor gets used corrupting the article as the categories are misplaced. I have reported this bug WP:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive 2013 07#Corrupting article format July 3 and a bug report was generated. Not optimistic that it will be fixed, it may be a problem with the Ep list template. To avoid this particular corruption episode numbers must not be blank, I put a nbsp there to avoid the corruption. Visual editor also corrupts articles if there are references on production codes. WP:VisualEditor/Feedback/Archive 2013 1#Incompatible with template:Episode list, I'm also not optimistic that will ever be fixed and may also be a template bug. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 08:20, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T08:20:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T08:20:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-07-21T07:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Considering that the only thing present there are external links to IMDB, I assumed A3 would apply. However, even if it doesn't do you still think such links should remain on Wikipedia? I am just going to let some admin decide. -- TOW  talk  17:24, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T17:24:00.000Z","author":"Tow","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tow-2013-07-21T17:24:00.000Z-Soft_Redirect","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T17:29:00.000Z-Tow-2013-07-21T17:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Soft redirects are explicitly excluded from A3. I am contesting the deletion for that reason but admins seldom check the talk page before speedy. I am adding the links to avoid redlinks to personal names for actors in an TV series article mainly to identify the actual person and avoid inline external links in article. This should be a valid use for soft redirects. I can't remove speedy tags for articles I created. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:29, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T17:29:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T17:29:00.000Z-Tow-2013-07-21T17:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tow-2013-07-21T21:01:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T17:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

I apologize for my haste with the CSD templates. However, don't you think it is better to just leave names of actors unlinked if they do not have Wikipedia articles. I mean if we link actors this way, there are a lot of other people which should then also be linked in a similar fashion. Also, why only link to IMDB? -- TOW  talk  21:01, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Tow","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tow-2013-07-21T21:01:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T17:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T21:22:00.000Z-Tow-2013-07-21T21:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

The problem is that names don't uniquely identify people. IMDB is good for basic actor identification and is a reasonable destination for actors. Also the soft redirect requires the destination be listed in m:interwiki map so it is a bit restricted on where the links can go. I am doing this for a TV show series article (The Haunted Hathaways) where people are creating redlinks (discouraged per WP:REDNOT) for major cast members. These people might be notable in the future because main cast in shows tend to eventually become notable, but they aren't now as the show is new. Mostly I'd just leave the names unlinked if there isn't some reasonable possibility of future notability. Use of inline interwiki links of the form [[imdbname:number|display]] is contentious - discussion is at WP:ELN about this. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:22, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T21:22:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T21:22:00.000Z-Tow-2013-07-21T21:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kww-2013-07-21T21:54:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T21:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

For now, would you please stop making them until the RFDs are complete? I suspect that these are all going to get deleted, and there's no reason to make the cleanup any harder than it needs to be? If I'm wrong, you can proceed with confidence that they won't be deleted in the future.—Kww(talk) 21:54, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T21:54:00.000Z","author":"Kww","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Kww-2013-07-21T21:54:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T21:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T22:00:00.000Z-Kww-2013-07-21T21:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

That was my intention. I planned to create only a few for one show article cast and see how it goes and if they stuck around. I don't see any policy or guidelines preventing this use but it will be interesting to see how the discussions go. Geraldo Perez (talk) 22:00, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T22:00:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-21T22:00:00.000Z-Kww-2013-07-21T21:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Breanna Yde. Since you had some involvement with the Breanna Yde redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Magioladitis (talk) 21:46, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T21:46:00.000Z","author":"Magioladitis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Magioladitis-2013-07-21T21:46:00.000Z-Breanna_Yde_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":[]}}-->

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Amber Montana. Since you had some involvement with the Amber Montana redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so). Magioladitis (talk) 21:47, 21 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-21T21:47:00.000Z","author":"Magioladitis","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Magioladitis-2013-07-21T21:47:00.000Z-Amber_Montana_listed_at_Redirects_for_discussion","replies":["c-AussieLegend-2013-07-22T01:44:00.000Z-Magioladitis-2013-07-21T21:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

• All of the soft redirects listed above have been deleted under CSD3#A3, even though A3 specifically excludes soft redirects. --AussieLegend (✉) 01:44, 22 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-22T01:44:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-07-22T01:44:00.000Z-Magioladitis-2013-07-21T21:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-22T02:20:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-07-22T01:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yeah an admin decided the rules don't apply in this case (invoked WP:IAR) and used his judgment to ignore the explicit policy described at WP:CSD. Most admins so far agree with him. See Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2013 July 22 for current state of this issue. I'm a bit bummed as I was hoping to have a reasonable redirect for discussion debate and some closure on this issue and now that has been truncated and all discussion moved to the DRV debate. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:20, 22 July 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-07-22T02:20:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-07-22T02:20:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-07-22T01:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, i am sorry for not putting down some reliable sources with the sentences i put down on some pages. I promise i will try put some down. Can you also tell me what other things i should do on talk pages and on the other ones. Thanks Aimeeb13 (talk) 00:11, 1 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-01T00:11:00.000Z","author":"Aimeeb13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aimeeb13-2013-08-01T00:11:00.000Z-Sorry_i_am_a_new_user","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-01T00:18:00.000Z-Aimeeb13-2013-08-01T00:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

Pretty much all bio info requires references. Easiest way to do this is put <ref>web link to source that supports info</ref> after the info you add. I added a welcome message to your page with lots of useful info on editing Wikipedia. Hope that helps. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:18, 1 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-01T00:18:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-01T00:18:00.000Z-Aimeeb13-2013-08-01T00:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You've previously had interaction with User:Thomasfan5034, who is indefinitely blocked, or one of his alleged sockpuppets. There is now an SPI discussion in progress that you may be able to provide some insight into. If you are interested, the discussion may be found at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Thomasfan5034. Thank you. --AussieLegend (✉) 11:49, 4 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-04T11:49:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-08-04T11:49:00.000Z-User:Thomasfan5034","replies":[]}}-->

I am a new user and I did not know that I had to provide references for making minor changes.3b3b3b (talk) 00:06, 9 August 2013 (UTC)3b3b3b__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-09T00:06:00.000Z","author":"3b3b3b","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-3b3b3b-2013-08-09T00:06:00.000Z-Sorry_2","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-09T00:09:00.000Z-3b3b3b-2013-08-09T00:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

References normally not required for minor corrections and most minor non-controversial changes. Biographical info, particularly birth info, must have good references. See WP:BLPPRIVACY for why. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:09, 9 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-09T00:09:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-09T00:09:00.000Z-3b3b3b-2013-08-09T00:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks i understand that is not a reliable source (i thought it was) but i will defiantly seek a new and more reliable one :))) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bschoawsb (talk • contribs) 23:34, 13 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-13T23:34:00.000Z","author":"Bschoawsb","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bschoawsb-2013-08-13T23:34:00.000Z-Louisa_Connolly-Burnham's_page","replies":[]}}-->

So far, all sources I could find (except for Zaptoit) state that there are 22 episodes in Season 1 of Dog with a Blog. I suggest that we discuss this, as I am unsure if Zaptoit is 100% reliable. 68.45.225.205 (talk) 03:38, 19 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-19T03:38:00.000Z","author":"68.45.225.205","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-68.45.225.205-2013-08-19T03:38:00.000Z-Dog_With_A_Blog_episodes","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-19T07:31:00.000Z-68.45.225.205-2013-08-19T03:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

No source is 100% accurate but Zap2it gets their info from Disney and Disney uses Zap2it as the guide they link to from their TV series pages. So far Zap2it is the most recent and most up-to-date reference we have and that overrides older references that give info on what is planned. The episode names and dates for the last two episodes listed on Zap2it are as accurate as any future episode info we get from reliable program guides. Disney hasn't announced a season 2 premiere date yet. Disney defines when a season starts. If Disney says those episodes belong in what Disney calls season 1 then that is where they belong. All this could change after the premiere date announcement. Geraldo Perez (talk) 07:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-19T07:31:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-19T07:31:00.000Z-68.45.225.205-2013-08-19T03:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-68.45.225.205-2013-08-19T16:34:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-19T07:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

So it is Disney who messed up. 68.45.225.205 (talk) 16:34, 19 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-19T16:34:00.000Z","author":"68.45.225.205","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-68.45.225.205-2013-08-19T16:34:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-19T07:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-19T16:48:00.000Z-68.45.225.205-2013-08-19T16:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Disney doesn't "mess up", they decide and define what episodes go in a season. Sometimes they choose to mixup episodes from different production cycles into different seasons. No question that 22 episodes were ordered for the first production cycle (1xx production codes). Whether or not Disney decides to add some second production cycle episodes (2xx) to the first season or hold back some 1xx episodes to air in the second season is for Disney to define for whatever marketing reason makes sense to them. Probably what is happening is that Disney doesn't want to announce the second season now via Zap2it so the first two eps of the second production cycle got tacked on to the season one list. Of course this is speculation on my part. That will likely change when the new season is announced. When that happens we change the article to match the latest info by creating a season 2 table and putting the proper episodes there. Anyway this will all clear itself up in a few weeks. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:48, 19 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-19T16:48:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-19T16:48:00.000Z-68.45.225.205-2013-08-19T16:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

excuse me sir /ma'am my facts were true but you deleted it so if u go on zendaya vevo she said out her mouth so if you have time can you add my facts i add on back — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zendayawriter (talk • contribs) 19:41, 25 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-25T19:41:00.000Z","author":"Zendayawriter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Zendayawriter-2013-08-25T19:41:00.000Z-Zendaya","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-25T19:54:00.000Z-Zendayawriter-2013-08-25T19:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

That is why we require references for all personal info. If it is true you should be able to find a reference that meets reliable source standards to support all the info you added. Also, unless a personal site is validated in some ways as being really her, we can't use it as a reference. Verified twitter is OK, for example, normal twitter is not. Also the meaning of her name is discussed on the article talk page – people who know the language say she is misinformed about the meaning of her name. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:54, 25 August 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-08-25T19:54:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-08-25T19:54:00.000Z-Zendayawriter-2013-08-25T19:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello. sorry for this, but these awards are new. kids choice awards méxico since 2010 Kids' Choice Awards Mexico [4] . Thanks. --Connie (A.K) (talk) 03:02, 4 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-04T03:02:00.000Z","author":"La Avatar Korra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-09-04T03:02:00.000Z-Re:_iCarly","replies":[],"displayName":"Connie (A.K)"}}-->

Geraldo, the information I used in the page can be found on Ms. Antariksa's official facebook page, so I hope you restore them online. The date of birth is the 22nd August 1995 and her birth name is " Lauren-Marie Elizabeth Antariksa" (sic). Thank you for contacting me, I hope you take my remarks into consideration. Greetings, G.M. Madonis Μαδωνής (talk) 17:37, 14 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-14T17:37:00.000Z","author":"\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2-2013-09-14T17:37:00.000Z-Editing_a_living_person's_page","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-14T17:43:00.000Z-\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2-2013-09-14T17:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

First you need to have some proof that the page in question is actually her official page and not some poser pretending to be her – a common problem with celebrities. Some reliable source mentioning that that is her page, her verified twitter account linking to it, a news article. Then you must add that as a reference to the article. See WP:BLPPRIVACY for why we need good reference for any birth info. An assertion is not sufficient. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:43, 14 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-14T17:43:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-14T17:43:00.000Z-\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2-2013-09-14T17:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

https://twitter.com/LuluAntariksa Hello Geraldo, this is Ms. Antariksa's verified Twitter account in which a link on the top of the page states that her Facebook page is temporary, yet official. Afterwards, if you check the facebook page mentioned above, you'll confirm its authenticity and notice that on August 22nd Ms. Antariksa thanks her fans for their birthday wishes. I thought it was weird that her birthday wasn't indicated on Wikipedia, so I tried to enrich the article with some more information. Greetings, G.M.Μαδωνής (talk) 16:44, 15 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-15T16:44:00.000Z","author":"\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2-2013-09-15T16:44:00.000Z-Editing_a_living_person's_page","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-15T17:00:00.000Z-\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2-2013-09-15T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

See https://twitter.com/verified and this for what a verified twitter account looks like. Notice the checkmark in the blue circle next to the name. An example of a verified account is https://twitter.com/BarackObama. The account you listed for her is not verified so can't be used as a reference in Wiki for any info. There are too many posers and pretenders to trust an assertion of ownership of facebook and twitter accounts. When she gets her account verified it would be a great addition to the article as an external link and a source of info – until then, we can't use it. What is needed so some reliable source that links her accounts to her. Geraldo Perez (talk) 17:00, 15 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-15T17:00:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-15T17:00:00.000Z-\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2-2013-09-15T16:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for the information, I hope I can prove helpful to Wikipedia in the near future, now that I know more things about editing and verifying sources. Take care, G.M. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Μαδωνής (talk • contribs) 19:44, 16 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-16T19:44:00.000Z","author":"\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u039c\u03b1\u03b4\u03c9\u03bd\u03ae\u03c2-2013-09-16T19:44:00.000Z-Editing_a_living_person's_page","replies":[]}}-->

I see this a lot when you edit, but with half hour tv shows, but hour long episodes are counted as two, not one. I would say you wouldn't have to put those in, but the episode list has a section for the production code, so normally most shows, iCarly, How to Rock , Jessie, etc. if it's an hour long episode for season one the code will be 111-112 because it counts as two and since the Wikipedia asks for a production code, I think it's needed. Since iTunes does not show production code order rather just list the episodes as their shown on TV, that do not include that. This is why I strongly feel that shows like Victorious (episode "Freak the Freak Out") and others should be listed as two and not one. It was an hour long episode after all, and if you go back and check how many episodes Nickelodeon ordered for the first season of Victorious it says 20, which was also confirmed by the show’s creator Dan Schneider. I strongly disagree that it should say 19 (along with other shows that have been edited) - Kellypoddle101

It is a single episode if it was aired as a single episode. One set of credits, promoted as a single episode, shown as a single episode, sold as a single episode. How the production people created that episode is not really relevant to what was broadcast. The articles should match the finished product that was broadcast, sold on iTunes or Amazon, and put on the DVD. How that episode was created is just interesting background info. Also what was ordered and what was shown may be different. The network is not obligated to show every episode that was produced, may show them out of order, may place them in seasons as they wish; and if they choose to merge two productions into one aired episode that is their prerogative as well. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:39, 17 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-17T01:39:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-17T01:39:00.000Z-Episodes,","replies":[]}}-->

They do that as a promotional thing, that's why the production number shows two different numbers and it does matter, if it didn't matter than it wouldn't exist. They show every episode if they do not it would state. iTunes, and Amazon are not TV companies, Wikipedia for TV shows gives information not only about the show (what is promoted), but behind the scenes info as well. It should be two episodes not one. I understand what you mean as opening credits, but the promotion and airing has nothing to do with it. For example, sonny with a chance is promoted as sonny with a chance, even though in the beginning it went through at least 3 other titles before they chose an official title and Wikipedia states that, even though iTunes, Amazon and Disney may not say it, doesn't mean it isn't valid information. They wouldn't announce how many episodes were ordered if it wasn't valid, they have these terms and codes for a reason. If the production number was of no significance then I wouldn't mind it, but it's their so it needs to be put in correctly, the production code is how the actual show produced it and the order it went in, so even if it is shown as one episodes, the production will still have to, which is true and in most cases confirmed, yet they keep getting changed back. That's basically posting incorrect information. I'm not trying to be rude or mean, it's just I feel the production and information on the things people do not see should be correct. iTunes and Amazon has nothing to do with. iTunes does not show the production codes or give information on the shows behind the scenes and production details, where as Wikipedia post information on everything about the show, it shouldn't just be information that people see. If that was the case then there would be no need for the episode page. The page actually said 28 at first with an actual source, but you went in and take it out. If it has a source than why is it being corrected? The source is there to prove the information is valid, you posting 26 with no source is invalid. Also the colors for the season are being chosen by the letters in the actual logo, not just random colors. For Jessie the J is blue, so season one was blue, season 2 is yellow because the first E in the logo is Yellow, season 3 should be orange because the S is orange. It's not vandalism. I think it makes more sense to pick actual colors to represent the show than just random ones. I think it's mandatory we post valid information, I'm obviously not the only one who feels this way because the people putting in the information on the show pages (Jessie, Victorious, How to Rock, etc.) who put the sources where it says episodes order and other things do the same thing until you change it, and you're changing it with no sources because iTunes and Amazon. We need to post correct information, not just change things because we personally do not feel like it's correct. For example, If Jessie is getting cancelled they're not going to promote it on TV, iTunes, or Amazon, but we would still place that information on Wikipedia. You get what I'm saying? I'm actually majoring in Broadcasting and Mass Communications right now. Again not trying to be rude, just want information that is put up to be Valid. - Kellypoddle101

The articles reflects what is actually broadcast (and also sold). If 26 episodes were actually broadcast in a season that is the episode count for the season. That info is also referenced and reflected in programming guides and the episode list. Planning info, even if referenced, is always overridden by what actually happened. Production codes are only useful to show production order particularly when the episodes are aired out of production order. As I stated before, production info is interesting background info and should be in the article but it does not override what actually happened. If an episode is marketed, shown and sold as "A one hour special" it is "A" (as in singular) episode. I don't care about colors as long as the text is readable. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:10, 19 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-19T02:10:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-19T02:10:00.000Z-Episodes,","replies":[]}}-->

But like I said earlier, we do not just post information that is promoted or marketed. It honestly seems like you're doing it because of things you believe in, no sources are even put in after you change the info. You just put in the episode number because of what itunes and amazon says. The hour long pilot of Victorious counts as one episode, because the production code is 101 and it is stated. - KellyPoddle101 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellypoddle101 (talk • contribs) 03:10, 19 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-19T03:10:00.000Z","author":"Kellypoddle101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kellypoddle101-2013-09-19T03:10:00.000Z-Episodes,","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-19T03:16:00.000Z-Kellypoddle101-2013-09-19T03:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

And the first hour long special of Jessie has a well-referenced official production code of "299" and the second hour long special does not have a production code reference yet. We post info about what actually happened. Watch the episodes, was it broadcast in two parts or as a single entity? If it is broadcast as a single entity it is a single entity. Planning info is in article only until we have info on the finished product. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:16, 19 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-19T03:16:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-19T03:16:00.000Z-Kellypoddle101-2013-09-19T03:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What I'm saying is how it was broadcasted or shown has nothing to do with it. When they do hour long episodes like that they are played from a network so they can put them together, amazon and itunes just play take it how it played off of the tv. Technically though it is counted as two episode. This is a data base, so shouldn't post all of the date and all of the information, not just what was shown on tv, because if you take shows like Glee for example, their 90 minute episodes are not counted as two, simply because they actually do extended episodes and the production codes stay the same. The production code is the code order it was produced in, so if you do chose to keep the episode number as one episode as one that's fine, but the production code still needs to show both, because just putting one would be adding false information. The episode number is what is shown on TV and Amazon, but they do not show production codes - kellypoddle101 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kellypoddle101 (talk • contribs) 05:52, 19 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-19T05:52:00.000Z","author":"Kellypoddle101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kellypoddle101-2013-09-19T05:52:00.000Z-Episodes,","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-19T06:00:00.000Z-Kellypoddle101-2013-09-19T05:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

I strongly disagree - how it is broadcast or shown has everything to do with it. That is the finished product. How it was made is irrelevant to that. The article gives valid correct info on that finished product and that is how it should be. It is not counted as anything but what it actually is – a single long episode is exactly that one single long episode, not arbitrarily counted as two. Geraldo Perez (talk) 06:00, 19 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-19T06:00:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-19T06:00:00.000Z-Kellypoddle101-2013-09-19T05:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Not trying to canvas here, but if you concur, please revert this edit by La Avatar Korra per WP:IDHT as I'm currently at 3RR. User seems to wish to highlight his/her favorite show.    DKqwerty    04:08, 22 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-22T04:08:00.000Z","author":"DKqwerty","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DKqwerty-2013-09-22T04:08:00.000Z-Nickelodeon_revert_needed","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-22T04:33:00.000Z-DKqwerty-2013-09-22T04:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't know enough about that article to make a judgment. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:33, 22 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-22T04:33:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-22T04:33:00.000Z-DKqwerty-2013-09-22T04:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-DKqwerty-2013-09-22T04:38:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-22T04:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Okay, thanks for your response anyway. Happy editing!!    DKqwerty    04:38, 22 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-22T04:38:00.000Z","author":"DKqwerty","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DKqwerty-2013-09-22T04:38:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-22T04:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Geraldo Perez. Regarding your recent edit on Peyton List (actress born 1998) and your reasoning behind it, I completely agree and understand it as well. I just thought of adding one wikilink for her nationality and the channel. So correct me if i'm wrong, but I believe that at least one Disney Channel link itself should be there as there were none at the time and currently also there aren't any. So if you suggest and agree, can the Disney Channel wikilink can be added back as it is also there in other similar articles of those people who are part of Jessie (TV series) ? ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 10:16, 29 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-29T10:16:00.000Z","author":"TheGeneralUser","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheGeneralUser-2013-09-29T10:16:00.000Z-Overlinking","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-29T16:03:00.000Z-TheGeneralUser-2013-09-29T10:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry about that. The Disney Channel link is reasonable to have in the article and I should not have removed it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:03, 29 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-29T16:03:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-29T16:03:00.000Z-TheGeneralUser-2013-09-29T10:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-TheGeneralUser-2013-09-29T20:58:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-29T16:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

No worries :) Mistakes can happen from anyone, at anytime. Thanks for pointing out mine. Happy Editing! ~TheGeneralUser (talk) 20:58, 29 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-29T20:58:00.000Z","author":"TheGeneralUser","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TheGeneralUser-2013-09-29T20:58:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-29T16:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I don't want any drama on here. But I would like Geraldo Perez to kindly tell me why he deletes all of my edits on here. :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jesuslover71 (talk • contribs) 23:40, 29 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-29T23:40:00.000Z","author":"Jesuslover71","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jesuslover71-2013-09-29T23:40:00.000Z-Deletion","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-30T00:13:00.000Z-Jesuslover71-2013-09-29T23:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Every time I make an edit I leave a reason in the history log for the article that explains why. I usually add a comment in the talk page of any editor I revert that also explains. If you have a specific question, ask me for more details. I watch talk pages I add comments to. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:13, 30 September 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-09-30T00:13:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-09-30T00:13:00.000Z-Jesuslover71-2013-09-29T23:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Mr. Perez, my changes to the page of Leigh-Allyn Baker were based off of information from two sites, Google and IMDb, which agreed on her birthday, April 3, 1972 — Preceding unsigned comment added by King chihuahua (talk • contribs) 03:08, 3 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-03T03:08:00.000Z","author":"King chihuahua","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-King_chihuahua-2013-10-03T03:08:00.000Z-Leigh-Allyn_Baker","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-03T03:27:00.000Z-King_chihuahua-2013-10-03T03:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

IMDb is not a reliable source for this type of info. Google is a search engine, not a reference. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:27, 3 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-03T03:27:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-03T03:27:00.000Z-King_chihuahua-2013-10-03T03:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Mr. Perez, the picture I used is from Commons and was also on the A.N.T. Farm page, so there are two reasons why it is not copyrighted. Dste 2:58, 11 October 2013 (EST)

It shouldn't be on commons and if it is it will be deleted from there as it is copyright owned by Disney. It is permitted as a fair use image for only one article. Go to the image page to see the fair-use justification. Only free-use images can be used to illustrate appearance of living people in their article. That image isn't free-use so is prohibited from that use. Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:16, 11 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-11T19:16:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-11T19:16:00.000Z-Sierra_McCormick","replies":[]}}-->

Hi. Now that's better. Explanatory and summarized. thanks for help in the article. Greetings and success. Good day! --Connie (A.K) (talk) 17:57, 13 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-13T17:57:00.000Z","author":"La Avatar Korra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-10-13T17:57:00.000Z-List","replies":[],"displayName":"Connie (A.K)"}}-->

Hi. Please, review Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (2012 TV series) (season 1). There are rounding errors. Thank you. --Connie (A.K) (talk) 20:22, 16 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-16T20:22:00.000Z","author":"La Avatar Korra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-10-16T20:22:00.000Z-Teenage_Mutant_Ninja_Turtles_(2012_TV_series)_(season_1)","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-16T21:40:00.000Z-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-10-16T20:22:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Connie (A.K)"}}-->

Some of your changes were significantly more than just rounding differences which is likely why you were reverted. It looks like you checked the references for the viewing info and got numbers from a different day than the ones listed in the article. You need to made sure the info matches the broadcast date and some of the sources show both Saturday and Sunday numbers, we want numbers from the episode premiere, not the reruns. If you do find errors by checking references you must give an edit summary stating that is the reason you made the change. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:40, 16 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-16T21:40:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-16T21:40:00.000Z-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-10-16T20:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-10-16T23:57:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-16T21:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, Why editing my summary is not saved?--Connie (A.K) (talk) 23:57, 16 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-16T23:57:00.000Z","author":"La Avatar Korra","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-10-16T23:57:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-16T21:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-17T00:04:00.000Z-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-10-16T23:57:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Connie (A.K)"}}-->

Should work. Try practicing on your own page. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-17T00:04:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-17T00:04:00.000Z-La_Avatar_Korra-2013-10-16T23:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

@Geraldo Perez: Haha! I kinda figured that because I sorta remember you telling me something about Showfax earlier this summer and how it didn't know what was actually going to air on TV. I'll try to remember that next time, thanks! ChicagoWiz 05:06, 20 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-20T05:06:00.000Z","author":"OZODOR","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-OZODOR-2013-10-20T05:06:00.000Z-Austin_&_Ally_episodes","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-20T05:11:00.000Z-OZODOR-2013-10-20T05:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Chicago"}}-->

It is best to stick with Zap2it as the most forward looking schedule, as you are currently doing. I appreciate your updating the ep articles with new episodes. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:11, 20 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-20T05:11:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-20T05:11:00.000Z-OZODOR-2013-10-20T05:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

HeyWollan has recreated Austin & Jessie & Ally: All Star New Year, which I've moved to Austin & Jessie & Ally All Star New Year. For some reason he's still insisting on the wrong title, even though the ref he included in the article doesn't support it. I really don't think the article meets WP:GNG though. Of the five refs in the article now, four support the title and one supports the ratings figure. --AussieLegend (✉) 09:19, 20 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-20T09:19:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-10-20T09:19:00.000Z-Austin_&_Jessie_&_Ally:_All_Star_New_Year","replies":[]}}-->

How come prose is better than tables? I think tables are better because prose can have poor grammar and run on sentences. I will say my opinion on the MOS too. Mouseinphilly (talk) 14:54, 20 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-20T14:54:00.000Z","author":"Mouseinphilly","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-20T14:54:00.000Z-Phineas_and_Ferb:_The_Movie_\u2013_Across_the_2nd_Dimension","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-20T14:57:00.000Z-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-20T14:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Stick with what the manual of style recommends until you can get the MOS to change. If there is poor grammar in the article, fix it. That section was tagged with a cleanup tag to convert to prose. Someone did just that. Don't undo that work just because you disagree with the manual of style. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:57, 20 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-20T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-20T14:57:00.000Z-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-20T14:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-22T20:40:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-20T14:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

You should protect the page from ips and new users. Mouseinphilly (talk) 20:40, 22 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-22T20:40:00.000Z","author":"Mouseinphilly","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-22T20:40:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-20T14:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-22T21:12:00.000Z-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-22T20:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm unable to do that, only admins can. Make request at WP:RPP. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:12, 22 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-22T21:12:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-22T21:12:00.000Z-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-22T20:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, this article should be split as per WP:SIZERULE and WP:EPISODE. The article looks better when it is split into seasons. Mouseinphilly (talk) 21:51, 26 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-26T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Mouseinphilly","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-26T21:51:00.000Z-List_of_A.N.T._Farm_episodes","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-26T21:54:00.000Z-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-26T21:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Then get other people to agree with your reasoning on the talk page of the list of episode articles. This was discussed only a few months ago and a split was rejected then. Make your case there and don't edit against consensus. Also don't copy whole chunks of articles without giving the policy required attributions as described in WP:CWW Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:54, 26 October 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-10-26T21:54:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-10-26T21:54:00.000Z-Mouseinphilly-2013-10-26T21:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Does Laura Marano not want us to put down her birthplace since you deleted it? Kingofironfist (talk) 06:06, 3 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-03T06:06:00.000Z","author":"Kingofironfist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kingofironfist-2013-11-03T06:06:00.000Z-Laura_Marano","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-03T14:51:00.000Z-Kingofironfist-2013-11-03T06:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

I removed that info as it does not have a reference to a reliable source. IMDB gives a birth place but IMDB is not a reliable source for bio info so can't be used as a reference for that type of info. See WP:RS/IMDB for more. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:51, 3 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-03T14:51:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-03T14:51:00.000Z-Kingofironfist-2013-11-03T06:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Understood. Kingofironfist (talk) 21:11, 3 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-03T21:11:00.000Z","author":"Kingofironfist","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kingofironfist-2013-11-03T21:11:00.000Z-Laura_Marano","replies":[]}}-->

Hi,

I understand what you meant but if this is the case then you also have to remove many actors/musicians in the List of Americans of Irish descent and the List of Americans of German descent because there are many sources that come from IMDb. About the site Ethnic celebs, some articles are reliable sources because the webmasters search the ancestors of celebrities, they put the link where they take their informations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.28.83.163 (talk) 21:33, 4 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-04T21:33:00.000Z","author":"85.28.83.163","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-85.28.83.163-2013-11-04T21:33:00.000Z-List_of_Americans_of_English_descent","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-04T21:48:00.000Z-85.28.83.163-2013-11-04T21:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Any bio info sourced on IMDb should be removed on sight from any article it is in. I ran across this article looking for something else, I haven't checked other similar type articles. Don't use ethnicelebs directly as a reference, use the reference they use if they give one (and check that that reference actually supports the info), otherwise the info is not properly sourced if they don't give a reference. All the info in this type of list article should already be in the linked to person's article. It would be good to check to make sure that is the case and the linked-to article checked/updated as needed. Need to be careful with this type of info as some people listed may find it derogatory if their ethnicity or descent is wrongly stated - better to not have it then to be incorrect. Geraldo Perez (talk) 21:48, 4 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-04T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-04T21:48:00.000Z-85.28.83.163-2013-11-04T21:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I see that you have reverted my previous edit about Reese Witherspoon. I understand that the site isn't that reliable but there is a comment on the site that shows her ancestors to be from England dating to the 1600s. — Preceding unsigned comment added by HenryBarnill (talk • contribs) 04:37, 6 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-06T04:37:00.000Z","author":"HenryBarnill","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HenryBarnill-2013-11-06T04:37:00.000Z-List_of_Americans_of_English_descent","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-06T04:41:00.000Z-HenryBarnill-2013-11-06T04:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard/Archive 76#Ethnicity about ethnicelebs.com. Anyway ancestors that far back are much too diluted to be meaningful. References in that article are also unreliable. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-06T04:41:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-06T04:41:00.000Z-HenryBarnill-2013-11-06T04:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I assume you've seen that Dog With a Blog and List of Dog With a Blog episodes were moved to Dog with a Blog and List of Dog with a Blog episodes respectively, apparently because of these edits. I've moved both articles back as it wasn't a non-controversial move. Disney used "Dog with a Blog" in early press releases but "Dog With a Blog" is used almost universally now, even though it's stylised as "dog with a blog". Regardless, such a move would need to be discussed. --AussieLegend (✉) 05:08, 17 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-17T05:08:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-11-17T05:08:00.000Z-Dog_With_a_Blog","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-17T05:44:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-11-17T05:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

The capitalization of "with" in the wiki manual of style for composition titles such as this one is pretty well defined. Four or fewer character prepositions such as "with" are supposed to be lower case, more then four are supposed to be upper case. (from rules at MOS:CAPS#Composition titles). I am not sure about whether the rule to use the proper name as a title or the rules to format based on MOS:CT are controlling in this case. It seems Disney is not consistent. The official site when not styling the name as all lower case use "Dog With a Blog". The Medianet title is "Dog With A Blog" but press releases there use "Dog With a Blog". Given that Disney is not consistent I think we should go with what MOS:CT says we should do. The move should be discussed but I now think there is a pretty strong case to move the article to "Dog with a Blog". Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:44, 17 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-17T05:44:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-17T05:44:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-11-17T05:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-AussieLegend-2013-11-17T07:19:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-17T05:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

I must admit to not being an expert on this (I finished school 36 years ago) so I rang an English teacher I used to work with and she said (to cut a loooonnnng story short) the rule for compound prepositions applies, which is probably why the press releases, and non-Disney sources, use "With a". --AussieLegend (✉) 07:19, 17 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-17T07:19:00.000Z","author":"AussieLegend","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-AussieLegend-2013-11-17T07:19:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-17T05:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-17T12:26:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-11-17T07:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

It is a long time for me too and I was never really good at this anyway. I don't think "with a" is a compound preposition based on grammar stuff I have been reading. The determinator article "a" is part of the noun phrase "a blog" and the preposition "with" is the connector between "dog" and "a blog". The article at noun phrase#Components of noun phrases seems to support that interpretation. I am not a grammar expert by any means so I'll leave this up to the people who know for sure. Geraldo Perez (talk) 12:26, 17 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-17T12:26:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-17T12:26:00.000Z-AussieLegend-2013-11-17T07:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please stop your disruptive editing, as you did at My Babysitter's a Vampire (TV series). Your edits have been reverted or removed.

• If you are engaged in an article content dispute with another editor, discuss the matter with the editor at their talk page, or the article's talk page. Alternatively you can read Wikipedia's dispute resolution page, and ask for independent help at one of the relevant notice boards.
• If you are engaged in any other form of dispute that is not covered on the dispute resolution page, seek assistance at Wikipedia's Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents.

Do not continue to make edits that appear disruptive until the dispute is resolved through consensus. Continuing to edit disruptively may result in your being blocked from editing. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 03:13, 25 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-25T03:13:00.000Z","author":"Dogmaticeclectic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:13:00.000Z-November_2013","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:24:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

That was uncalled for - see WP:DTR. My edits were well explained, you disagreed, discussion is ongoing so above warning is just annoying to me and serves no useful purpose. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:24, 25 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-25T03:24:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:24:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:26:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

The template may have been a bit harsh - I couldn't find a more appropriate one for the situation, unfortunately - but the fact of the matter is that making an edit during an ongoing dispute discussion relating to that edit is most certainly not appropriate. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 03:26, 25 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-25T03:26:00.000Z","author":"Dogmaticeclectic","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:26:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:35:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't use templates then, just state what you want to say in a normal talk page message. My edit during discussion was a good faith edit based on reading the template instructions. You reverted it, I'm cool with that. No need to drop the hammer with a level 3 warning during an ongoing discussion. This type of thing can make it harder to come to an amicable agreement so tends to be counterproductive. --Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:35, 25 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-25T03:35:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:35:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:45:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Again, I wasn't too keen on using the template myself. I do suppose a manual talk page message might have done the trick. In any case, though, unless you mean to try out some sort of compromise, I would ask that you not edit the infobox parameters relating to the discussion further until the dispute is resolved. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 03:45, 25 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-25T03:45:00.000Z","author":"Dogmaticeclectic","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:45:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:54:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

I wasn't planning on it as you explained the issue sufficiently in your revert edit summary. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:54, 25 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-25T03:54:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-25T03:54:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-11-25T03:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just letting you know that you didn't catch all the vandalism over at the List of Drake & Josh episodes page. The same guy had changed all the airdates for Season 3, again. I reverted it, but if that knowledge helps you ban him, use it. --68.97.248.105 (talk) 16:35, 28 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-28T16:35:00.000Z","author":"68.97.248.105","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-68.97.248.105-2013-11-28T16:35:00.000Z-Drake_&_Josh","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-28T16:41:00.000Z-68.97.248.105-2013-11-28T16:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, I missed that one. IPv6 edits don't revert properly. I thought I got both but only got the last one instead. IP was blocked for that. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:41, 28 November 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-11-28T16:41:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-11-28T16:41:00.000Z-68.97.248.105-2013-11-28T16:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi there. I edited the short summary because if you think about it that is not a short summary. Some of the people I met say that they can't be bothered reading that huge paragraph. If people read the whole thing for the first time, there is not point of watching it when it explains everything on the short summary. It is a Spoiler Alert!. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragondevil 22 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 8 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-08T01:03:00.000Z","author":"Dragondevil 22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dragondevil_22-2013-12-08T01:03:00.000Z-House_of_Anubis","replies":[]}}-->

You could have just removed the reference and left the date of birth as it is correct. Plus you could have been polite when asking me to stop using that as a reference. But you decided to condescending.

I'm sorry about being abrupt. I left an edit summary message explaining why I originally reverted your addition. You reverted me without explanation which is the essentially the same as saying that my edit was vandalism which left me somewhat annoyed. I apologize. The complete birthdate is not supported as required by WP:BLPPRIVACY. The approximation does have a reference and is sufficient for a bio article. It would be great to find a reference that meets the BLP policy for this type of info. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:05, 8 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-08T02:05:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-08T02:05:00.000Z-Reference","replies":[]}}-->

Oh and you don't need a second account. Usually it's against policy. Being an admin, I'd thought you know that. Mr. C.C.^{Hey yo!}_{I didn't do it!} 01:42, 8 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-08T01:42:00.000Z","author":"Fishhead2100","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fishhead2100-2013-12-08T01:42:00.000Z-Reference","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-08T02:05:00.000Z-Fishhead2100-2013-12-08T01:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

I am well aware of the policy about multiple accounts and my specific usage is not against policy. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:05, 8 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-08T02:05:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-08T02:05:00.000Z-Fishhead2100-2013-12-08T01:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for spotting that and reverting. I was afraid that might have been the case, and I should have investigated it further. But it was late, so I just approved and figured another editor would fix it if I was wrong. My bad. --Novusuna ^talk 20:15, 9 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-09T20:15:00.000Z","author":"Novusuna","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Novusuna-2013-12-09T20:15:00.000Z-Cl\u00e9mence_Po\u00e9sy_copyvio","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-09T20:28:00.000Z-Novusuna-2013-12-09T20:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm always suspicious of new images that look like they were taken by a pro. The image was tagged on Commons with a creative commons license that conflicted with the explicit copyright and requirement in the EXIF data to obtain permission from the pro who took the picture. I tagged the Commons image for speedy as a copyvio (now deleted) before I reverted back to the good image in the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 20:28, 9 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-09T20:28:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-09T20:28:00.000Z-Novusuna-2013-12-09T20:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Winx Club‎‎, you may be blocked from editing. 114.79.17.15 (talk) 23:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC) Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Swindle (2013 film), you may be blocked from editing. 114.79.17.15 (talk) 23:41, 10 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-10T23:41:00.000Z","author":"114.79.17.15","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-114.79.17.15-2013-12-10T23:41:00.000Z-Spurious_warnings","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-10T23:49:00.000Z-114.79.17.15-2013-12-10T23:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wasn't even close to vandalism, just well-explained reverts of bad edits you made. Don't corrupt my page with bogus messages. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:49, 10 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-10T23:49:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-10T23:49:00.000Z-114.79.17.15-2013-12-10T23:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Geraldo. I noticed the revert you did here, and while I agree with the revert I wanted to offer some friendly advice on the related "warning" edit you did here. What I have written below may be a little critical but please be assured that I offer it with only the most constructive intent and a very respectful attitude.

I am a long-time lurker/user who elects to edit via IP. Sadly sometimes I see a bit of unfair bias that assumes IP editors are untrustworthy for no other reason than they have not logged in. The truth is that many IP users are just inexperienced newbies and easily scared off. I would like to suggest you might want to review WP:Vandalism#How_not_to_respond_to_vandalism.

Specifically, I wish to express my concern on your choice to use the {{Uw-multipleIPs}} template:

• Firstly because this choice failed to assume good faith. That small edit could have easily been a test edit or even a well-intentioned but erroneous edit since there is a 2012 film by the same name.
• Next because it resulted in a warning message that explicity used the word "vandalism" even though this is frowned upon.
• Finally because as far as I can tell there were no multiple IPs or even multiple edits involved in this case.

Ultimately I believe a good choice would have been the {{uw-vand1}} template for all of the same reasons as {{Uw-multipleIPs}} was not.

I hope this advice has not offended you, it is not my intent to do so, as I only wish to help improve Wikipedia, both as an encyclopedia and a community. Thank you for listening. 66.97.209.215 (talk) 12:43, 10 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-10T12:43:00.000Z","author":"66.97.209.215","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-66.97.209.215-2013-12-10T12:43:00.000Z-Assume_Good_Faith","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-10T15:10:00.000Z-66.97.209.215-2013-12-10T12:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

You have incomplete information – see User talk:85.211.2.185, User talk:85.211.2.25, User talk:85.211.15.50 and User talk:85.211.14.3 for previous warnings and blocks this editor has received. Pattern fits the definition of hoaxing vandalism by inserting deliberate (sometimes plausible) misinformation in articles. My warning at User talk:85.211.14.105 was appropriate based on the warnings for same edit pattern already received by this roving IP. Warning levels do not need to get reset to instructional level when an editor changes IPs to avoid scrutiny and has already received plenty of warnings for same behavior on other IPs used. There are good edits in the IP range this person uses so a range block would not be appropriate. This person has a pattern that is pretty easy to recognize and the last edit fit that pattern. I normally put a link to previous warnings in this templated message – I should have done so in the last one to head off this sort of misunderstanding. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:10, 10 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-10T15:10:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-10T15:10:00.000Z-66.97.209.215-2013-12-10T12:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-66.97.209.215-2013-12-11T09:49:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-10T15:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Then I stand corrected. I appreciate your clear and prompt response. Looking at the single article with the single edit by the IP did indeed leave me with an incomplete view and I appreciate your helping me to see the bigger picture as well. Thank you. 66.97.209.215 (talk) 09:49, 11 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-11T09:49:00.000Z","author":"66.97.209.215","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-66.97.209.215-2013-12-11T09:49:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-10T15:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Racism just like misogyny and other systems of discrimination rely upon structure. Such structure requires power - power that manifests through societal institutions (ie Political, Educational, and Religious). Racism is not simply a matter of preferential tastes, biases or discriminatory tendencies. It's far more complicated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shiznaw (talk • contribs) 14:55, 13 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-13T14:55:00.000Z","author":"Shiznaw","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shiznaw-2013-12-13T14:55:00.000Z-Structural_Racism","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-13T15:05:00.000Z-Shiznaw-2013-12-13T14:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

HUH? I have absolutely no idea of the context of this message to me and I don't see anything in my edit history that would lead anyone to think I have any interest in this topic. I strongly avoid any involvement in controversial topics on Wikipedia and I won't get pulled into this one. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:05, 13 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-13T15:05:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-13T15:05:00.000Z-Shiznaw-2013-12-13T14:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Geraldo. I am now aware of my mistake and I understand the policy. I'm truly sorry. I was wondering- how do you give credit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lkaps2 (talk • contribs) 00:04, 17 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-17T00:04:00.000Z","author":"Lkaps2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lkaps2-2013-12-17T00:04:00.000Z-Re-dove_Cameron","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-17T00:12:00.000Z-Lkaps2-2013-12-17T00:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

A full explanation is at this link - Wikipedia:Citing sources - minimally just put the web link between <ref> and </ref> tags next to the info you added. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:12, 17 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-17T00:12:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-17T00:12:00.000Z-Lkaps2-2013-12-17T00:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Regarding your warning on User talk:88.244.142.138. I looked over his history before I posted the welcome message and I noticed that he added a lot of shows to that category. I just didn't notice the relationship between the 2 categories. Thought you'd like to know. —    Bill W.    (Talk)  (Contrib)  — 18:03, 23 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-23T18:03:00.000Z","author":"Wtwilson3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wtwilson3-2013-12-23T18:03:00.000Z-Don't_add_supercategories","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-23T18:09:00.000Z-Wtwilson3-2013-12-23T18:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Bill\u00a0W."}}-->

He has done this with other IPs in the range 88.244.0.0/16. I thought it strange why he was adding that category to all the articles when they weren't already there so checked that it is a supercategory of an existing category. Editor is roving IP from Turkey so dubious that edit history and talk page messages will be seen and understood. I plan to keep watch for this. Geraldo Perez (talk) 18:09, 23 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-23T18:09:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-23T18:09:00.000Z-Wtwilson3-2013-12-23T18:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Geraldo. Since you seem to be skilled at spotting subtle editing patterns I wanted to bounce the following off of you. Maybe I am just a little paranoid but...

I noticed on the Jack Wild article a series of edits by an IP user (see Special:Contributions/137.147.133.91). Looking at these edits closely I found that the editor removed clearly sourced text and citations but more subtly s\he specifically removed two small bits of text claiming that heavy smoking was one of the two causes of Wild's mouth cancer.

I repaired the article and did some other minor cleanup but my question goes to the possibility that the anonymous editor may have some kind of an agenda.

Possible biases (just some crazy ideas off the top of my head):

(1) an unbalanced Jack Wild fan who just hates to think her hero ever smoked (but his drinking was okay of course).

(2) an over-enthusiastic POV pusher of the alcoholism is the cause of mouth cancer camp, or

(3) a sophisticated pro-tobacco damage control agent making stealth edits,

;-D

While I want to assume good faith it seems prudent to at least consider that if s\he was intentionally trying to specifically remove smoking references here, then there is a fair possibility the same kinds of edits were done elsewhere using other IP addresses.

Is there any way to search the database and limit the search only to text that has been removed (based on edit differences)? In this case looking for words like "smoking" or "tabacco"? Or can you think of another way to look for such a editing pattern/agenda?

Last question: Am I just a little paranoid after all? :) F6697 ^{FORMERLY 66.97.209.215} _TALK 07:27, 25 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-25T07:27:00.000Z","author":"Formerly6697","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Formerly6697-2013-12-25T07:27:00.000Z-Would_like_your_advice.","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-25T16:24:00.000Z-Formerly6697-2013-12-25T07:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"F6697"}}-->

It is possible that the editor has an agenda, hard to say. This particular IP's contributions generally look good faith. Geo locate says from ISP in Melbourne, Australia. I am not familiar with any way to search for removed content. A rough IP range check (click here) doesn't show anything other than insertion of unreferenced info. There are a couple of IP disruptive editors I look for in Australia - this range isn't one of them and ISPs in large cities tend to have lots of distinct editors. I generally watch a bunch of articles and tend to recognize disruptive IP ranges when I see them and do some checking when I see one. If there is an agenda, the roving IP generally tends to haunt a few related articles and make similar edits with similar IPs. Sorry I can't help more with this. I wouldn't call it paranoia, just wary, which is good, but do trust other editors to find and fix the type of issue you are suspecting. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:24, 25 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-25T16:24:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-25T16:24:00.000Z-Formerly6697-2013-12-25T07:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Formerly6697-2013-12-25T17:46:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-25T16:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the feedback Geraldo. Too bad there's no such search function. I was hoping for a way to do void pattern analysis for a number of reasons beyond just catching stealth edits. Perhaps someday when I get skilled with coding wp tools I will build my own. :) F6697 ^{FORMERLY 66.97.209.215} _TALK 17:46, 25 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-25T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Formerly6697","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Formerly6697-2013-12-25T17:46:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-25T16:24:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"F6697"}}-->

When I edited Liv and Maddie, you undid it and told me why, saying "That's a stretch". Could you tell me what you mean when you say that?

TheRocknRollPat (talk) 04:21, 28 December 2013 (UTC)TheRocknRollPat__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-28T04:21:00.000Z","author":"TheRocknRollPat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheRocknRollPat-2013-12-28T04:21:00.000Z-What_the_heck_is_a_strech?","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-28T04:49:00.000Z-TheRocknRollPat-2013-12-28T04:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

It is short for "that's a stretch of the imagination" or hard to imagine being correct. Geraldo Perez (talk) 04:49, 28 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-28T04:49:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-28T04:49:00.000Z-TheRocknRollPat-2013-12-28T04:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You've ever watched Liv and Maddie? It is truly a mockumentary since the characters break the fourth wall on occasion.

TheRocknRollPat (talk) 04:55, 28 December 2013 (UTC)TheRocknRollPat__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-28T04:55:00.000Z","author":"TheRocknRollPat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheRocknRollPat-2013-12-28T04:55:00.000Z-What_the_heck_is_a_strech?","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-28T05:03:00.000Z-TheRocknRollPat-2013-12-28T04:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes I've watched it. It takes more than that to be a mockumentary. Unless you can find a reliable source that states that, it is original research to add that to the article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 05:03, 28 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-28T05:03:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-28T05:03:00.000Z-TheRocknRollPat-2013-12-28T04:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Victoria Justice was actually credited as a cast member in the opening credits. The other Victorious cast was not. --Prcc27 (talk) 07:13, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T07:13:00.000Z","author":"Prcc27","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Prcc27-2013-12-29T07:13:00.000Z-iCarly","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-29T15:08:00.000Z-Prcc27-2013-12-29T07:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

That means she should go in the series article infobox starring list as that is for every cast member who ever got starring credit. That does not mean main cast for series or season as she obviously wasn't in most episodes as a regular cast member. She should just be listed as a guest star with opening credits starring credit in the one episode she that happened. Geraldo Perez (talk) 15:08, 29 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-29T15:08:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-29T15:08:00.000Z-Prcc27-2013-12-29T07:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please make sure that particular edits should in fact be reverted instead of simply mass-reverting a particular user's edits. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 00:54, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T00:54:00.000Z","author":"Dogmaticeclectic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-12-30T00:54:00.000Z-Your_reverts","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-30T00:59:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-12-30T00:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Why? With a known multiply blocked vandal who is effectively banned all edits are suspect. If any info added was good it will be put back by someone without a reputation for adding false info to articles. If you wish to verify and add back info, great, it is greatly appreciated. Geraldo Perez (talk) 00:59, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T00:59:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-30T00:59:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-12-30T00:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-12-30T01:01:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-30T00:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

For one thing, some of the edits (or partial edits) are unquestionably helpful, such as the ones that use already-sourced information - yet you've reverted quite a few of these as well. Dogmaticeclectic (talk) 01:01, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T01:01:00.000Z","author":"Dogmaticeclectic","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-12-30T01:01:00.000Z-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-30T00:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-30T01:07:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-12-30T01:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

The articles were in good shape before a known untrusted editor made changes. No harm in reverting them all as is generally the practice for banned editors. Again it you have the time to check and sort out the good from the bad, great. Geraldo Perez (talk) 01:07, 30 December 2013 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-30T01:07:00.000Z","author":"Geraldo Perez","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Geraldo_Perez-2013-12-30T01:07:00.000Z-Dogmaticeclectic-2013-12-30T01:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->