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Hi Firefangledfeathers I would like to check with you with regards to the discussion at NPOV board where you commented. According to WP:RSP, The Economist is considered generally reliable. However some editors argue that this Economist article is an opinion piece, because WP:RSP also states that "The Economist publishes exclusively articles in editorial voice with no byline". Referring to this statement - on tone and writing, some editors consider every Economist article to be an opinion piece, and therefore not suitable for use in Wikipedia. In my opinion, that certainly contradicts the strong community consensus that The Economist is generally reliable, which was reached at the last RFC: [1] Also, in that RFC, I don't see any consensus for the wording about The Economist publishing articles exclusively in editorial voice. Checking through history, I see that this wording was introduced by one user: [2], who referred to his own comments here: [3] Previous wording appeared to suggest that The Economist published both regular articles and editorial pieces. I don't see that The Economist article in question is identified as an opinion piece on The Economist website, and blanket dismissal of all Economist articles is in my view against Wikipedia policies and general consensus. I would like to have some guidance on this, as it seems the longer this difference in opinion continues without admin guidance, the more agitated the disagreeing user(s) are becoming, and the goal here is progress and updating the article, rather than getting in to a back and forth. What would be your advice in this situation? Should I raise this question at WP:RSP again? Sean Waltz O'Connell (talk) 12:51, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240826125100","author":"Sean Waltz O'Connell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sean_Waltz_O'Connell-20240826125100-NPOV_Discussion","replies":["c-Firefangledfeathers-20240826131200-Sean_Waltz_O'Connell-20240826125100"]}}-->
This version of the protocol gives no specific age limits for treatments, emphasizing the need to decide individually for each patient. An earlier draft would have required several years of transgender identity before an adolescent could begin treatment. After criticism from transgender advocates, this provision was removed in the final release.
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Heya, I have no idea how this works, but this article is missing a pretty important section on the controversy surrounding his deposition. When I write it up do you mind letting me ping you to take a look at it to make sure I'm covering a sensitive topic like this correctly? --Hydronym89 (talk) 19:13, 26 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240826191300","author":"Hydronym89","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hydronym89-20240826191300-Question_from_Hydronym89_on_Joseph_Al-Zehlaoui_(19:13,_26_August_2024)","replies":["c-Firefangledfeathers-20240827013900-Hydronym89-20240826191300"]}}-->
Hello, the user whom you recently p-blocked is now edit-warring at Epirus [5]. Also almost certainly a sock of the indeffed Arbe21 21 (talk · contribs). Khirurg (talk) 11:23, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240830112300","author":"Khirurg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Khirurg-20240830112300-Lumbarschen","replies":["c-Lumbarschen-20240830112700-Khirurg-20240830112300","c-Firefangledfeathers-20240830120900-Khirurg-20240830112300"]}}-->
Firefangledfeathers But why am i "Edit warring" when i'm simply reverting a better option for that page? May i please know it? And how am i supposed to Edit or Revert more accurate things without "edit warring"? At this point i just should stop editing since none of my edit or reverts seems to be useful and is considered edit warring — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lumbarschen (talk • contribs) 12:41, 30 August 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240830124100","author":"Lumbarschen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lumbarschen-20240830124100-Lumbarschen","replies":["c-Firefangledfeathers-20240830132000-Lumbarschen-20240830124100"]}}-->
Thanks for your help. It was easier than I thought. I'd not created a page before. Seananony (talk) 17:48, 7 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240907174800","author":"Seananony","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Seananony-20240907174800-statutory_city_help","replies":["c-Firefangledfeathers-20240908013400-Seananony-20240907174800"]}}-->
I accidently created the article Direct sum (polytope theory) in main space. I actually wanted to create it in my user space. Waqar moved it to drafts, but I would really prefer it to remain in my user space without a redirect from a draft page. Can you move it to my user space? --MWinter4 (talk) 09:03, 9 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240909090300","author":"MWinter4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MWinter4-20240909090300-Question_from_MWinter4_(09:03,_9_September_2024)","replies":["c-Firefangledfeathers-20240909130900-MWinter4-20240909090300"]}}-->
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Hello my dear friend. I want to write an article. Please allow me to make an article because I have translated many articles. ZZ510 (talk) 15:58, 10 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240910155800","author":"ZZ510","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ZZ510-20240910155800-Create_article","replies":["c-Firefangledfeathers-20240910161100-ZZ510-20240910155800"]}}-->
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Hey, just wanted to drop a quick note of thanks for your note on the talk discussion. I try to hold back, but sometimes it can get exceedingly frustrating when having to rehash the same things over and over, so thanks for your note on the tone :) Raladic (talk) 14:54, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240912145400","author":"Raladic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Raladic-20240912145400-Thanks","replies":["c-Firefangledfeathers-20240912145600-Raladic-20240912145400"]}}-->
Hello- just circling back with you because you reversed some work I contributed to the African American History page. Im a bit unclear from your comment what the concern is?? Can you help me better understand? RFAvaria (talk) 19:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240912194500","author":"RFAvaria","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RFAvaria-20240912194500-African_American_History_Page","replies":["c-Firefangledfeathers-20240912194900-RFAvaria-20240912194500"]}}-->
Hi there, nice to meet you. I found your name on the Category:Wikipedians willing to provide third opinions list, and noticed you again at Wikipedia talk:No original research. I am looking for an editor to look at an edit request I recently posted at Talk:Len Blavatnik#NPOV problems in the Intro and Sanctions sections concerning content that may not adhere to Wikipedia's policy of NPOV. I hope you have time to contribute to that discussion. Thanks in advance for your help on this. C at Access (talk) 13:23, 18 September 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240918132300","author":"C at Access","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-C_at_Access-20240918132300-NPOV_on_Len_Blavatnik_BLP","replies":[]}}-->
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