I beleive a {{fact}} tag would have been more appropriate here. --kelapstick (talk) 09:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-14T09:21:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-07-14T09:21:00.000Z-Iggy_Pop","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-14T14:02:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-14T09:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Maybe, but I had no idea what this person was trying to say. Only when they put it in the third time did I realize that "Iggy" might be the subject, not some idiot schoolmate of this idiot. Hey, are you hounding me? Oh, my regards again to the fam. We were just discussing this morning how much we'd like the four-year old to be two years old again for an hour. Enjoy it while you can, K! Haha, Drmies (talk) 14:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-14T14:02:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-14T14:02:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-14T09:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kelapstick-2010-07-15T14:06:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-14T14:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well we will be at least another two years till we have another two year old...where does the time go? Hey? Have you considered autoarchiving? Boba Phat is still on here, and while I know he was crucial to the project, that was months ago! Plus it takes me forever to scroll down this far on my iPod....So when are you coming to NS? It is prime lobster season, although we both missed the Lobster Carnival. --kelapstick (talk) 14:06, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T14:06:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-07-15T14:06:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-14T14:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kelapstick-2010-07-16T00:51:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-15T14:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Appologies for the let down, I had actually expected you to correct that for me, in fact I was going to leave a note when I left it asking you to. I must make Lobster Carnival a blue link (if I can), because I was under the impression that there would be lobsters riding Ferris Wheels and merry-go-rounds, but when I got pictures from Mrs. K (I could not attend, for obvious reasons), I was saddly dissappointed. I must inform others that the event might not be what they expect it to be. I have also been trying to gather enough information to create an article on Pictou county pizza (a style of pizza, not a brand), but have come up short once again (that's what she said).--kelapstick (talk) 00:51, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-16T00:51:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-07-16T00:51:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-15T14:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry about the RVV label; I have been barely sweeping articles for the last few years, after spending 3 years creating 100s of them. It's a lot of work to keep up on that many, and honestly, when I see an editor who has never edited the article before come along and wipe out large portions of link sections I almost automatically assume it's vandalism, revert it, then move along. Sorry to lump your concerned effort with those. • Freechild'sup? 14:37, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-14T14:37:00.000Z","author":"Freechild","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Freechild-2010-07-14T14:37:00.000Z-See_also","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-14T14:43:00.000Z-Freechild-2010-07-14T14:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Sure thing, Freechild. Thanks for your note--and I hope you like the feather I stuck in your cap. Drmies (talk) 14:43, 14 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-14T14:43:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-14T14:43:00.000Z-Freechild-2010-07-14T14:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Against my word and yours we need to discuss this, civilly and calmly. We are obviously going to get nowhere with snarky comments and edit warring. So, how do you want to solve this? At present, there is no consensus for either inclusion or non-inclusion, as it has no been actively discussed. The inclusion is something that has just happened over time. I feel we should have (at ANI for more eyes) a discussion on this and work something out. We aren't going to get anywhere but blocked, both of us, if we continue to spit snarky comments at each other and revert each others edits. So, truce? - Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:00, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T03:00:00.000Z","author":"Neutralhomer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T03:00:00.000Z-Discussion","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-15T03:18:00.000Z-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T03:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Homer, I haven't yet forgotten that you called me a "petty, arrogant troll"--on this same talk page. I make good-faith efforts to improve articles that you hadn't even edited before, and you are obviously following me and reverting me (blindly reverting me at WIAT also removed a valid maintenance template, and you know it). And no, I am not going to get blocked over this: every time you warn me about 3RR, you're the one at 3, not me.

  Now, there is progress in your message: you say there is no consensus for either inclusion or exclusion. By that I think you mean "no consensus in the TV station project"--which is correct, but that's not all that matters. What I want from you, before we go anywhere, is the acknowledgment that Wikipedia's policies on BLPs and directories apply across the board, since I can not agree to anything that allows unverified information to stand. You have brought forth a few arguments for the reasonability of some of that information. I can see the possibility of a compromise there, where it concerns current staff--but why don't you start by linking to a webpage, whenever possible, where that info is verified? Some time ago you agreed that especially in the case of former staff there are BLP problems, and I think (but seriously, I am not checking your edits!) that in a number of cases (in the past anyway, if I remember correctly) where you reverted me you have not reinstated those unverified/non-notable folk, for which I applaud you (and I hope you are still of the same opinion).

  Look, I'm watching the news right now on WSFA, and I want to finish watching that. In the meantime, have a look at that station's page--there's barely a notable person there, and you know it. More than half the article is directory information. I'm leaving it alone, since Rich Thomas is doing his spiel (he's obviously not just the weekend meteorologist). Thanks for your message; we'll talk later. Drmies (talk) 03:18, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T03:18:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-15T03:18:00.000Z-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T03:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T03:27:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T03:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just so you know I am not following your edits, we actually just popped up on the same page, please see this edit and this edit. These were for a couple days ago. There is a sockpuppet afoot, so I have been doing some reverting. They were hitting the WIAT and WVTM pages often, so I watchlisted them, otherwise, I wouldn't have seen the edits...they are outside of my watch area (I watch VA, WV, MD, PA and DC stations).

I am still open to adding links to the station bio pages. I can do that in my area, since you appear to live (I am guessing) in the Alabama area, you might want to do the same down there. As for other stations, we would have to put something on WP:TVS to get more help so it is not just two people working on this, it would get tiring very quickly.

As for the former staff, I am fine with the lists being slimmed down to notable and another editor has already started that. I think while they are at the station, they are notable. - Neutralhomer • Talk • 03:27, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T03:27:00.000Z","author":"Neutralhomer","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T03:27:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T03:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-15T13:51:00.000Z-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T03:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Homer, this sounds fair to me. Current staff should have a link to a source (the station's website) to satisfy WP:V; for former staff, bluelinks are of course sufficient, and if at least some sort of significant reference is linked (to satisfy WP:BLP), people without WP articles make the cut as well--and they could be redlinked as an invitation to editors to write the article. I'll do one of the articles we've disagreed on, and then you can see what you think.

BTW, there is another matter: I personally don't see the justification for those slogans and lists of names of news programs and I wonder where, in most of those articles, that knowledge comes from, but we can leave that for another day. OK? In the meantime, we'll stop the namecalling and next time we disagree we'll settle it after school on the playground, under the old oak tree, with fisticuffs. Take it easy, Drmies (talk) 13:51, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T13:51:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-15T13:51:00.000Z-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T03:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T17:09:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T13:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks good. My idea was to link to the reporter/anchor/etc's individual bio per a link, but this works just as good. :)

The slogans/news programs lists should be taken out. At first I was indifferent on their inclusion, but since a long time sockpuppeteer has created all those lists, they are out. I will do the VA, WV, MD, PA and DC stations sometime today.

*totally joking*Yeah! 3pm after History class! You're going down! :) Take Care...Neutralhomer • Talk • 17:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T17:09:00.000Z","author":"Neutralhomer","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Neutralhomer-2010-07-15T17:09:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T13:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi there MIES, VASCO here,

Glad to see everything is (for now resolved) in this situation, even though i think (i could be wrong though) the apology is contrived, not sincere. Also (was totally caught by surprise, because i thought blocked users could do everything but edit, so i assumed they could still send messages and stuff), if you notice his talkpage, watch how he goes in an endless rant about football technicalities to justify his (not being) block(ed), then speaks about differences with two users, one of them me.

About this last part, i feel as though he is trying to make me look bad, again calling me stupid ("nonsense"), saying i don't own articles (does he?) and saying i engage in things i do not (as of now that is, i did it in the past - could his horrible English be to blame for any misunderstanding on my part?); more or less, it seems he is saying "I was blocked, how come Vasco was not?". But i will leave everything as it is - sent him a polite but to-the-point message when i saw what he wrote - hopefully this is the beginning of a good Wikiunderstanding between you two - i say "you two" because i feel that i haven't reached, for reasons that escape me, that kind of understanding with him or any other user in almost four years of editing :(

Cheers, take care - --Vasco Amaral (talk) 17:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T17:10:00.000Z","author":"VascoAmaral","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-VascoAmaral-2010-07-15T17:10:00.000Z-Matthew_HK","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-15T17:19:00.000Z-VascoAmaral-2010-07-15T17:10:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Vasco Amaral"}}-->

• Hey Vasco, thanks for the note. Well, he apologized, and I accept that, so as far as I'm concerned that's the end of it. I haven't looked at his talk page and I probably won't; the lengthy explanations of other things, I saw that before. But you see, I only incidentally edit soccer articles (like last night, when you should have been in bed, haha), so I don't run into him very often. Really all I can say is I hope he gets it. He's produced a ton of edits, many of them useful, no doubt, but Wikimanners count for something as well. And it's hard, especially since all of us think we're right, usually, to deal with someone whom we think is wrong, and I'm not always good at it, but it's worth trying to get along. So, try to keep your cool. In the meantime, make sure you enjoy the rest of the summer, and adeus! Drmies (talk) 17:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T17:19:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-15T17:19:00.000Z-VascoAmaral-2010-07-15T17:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You did not abide by WP:Assume good faith and as such I request a redaction or change in your "warning." Thanks.68.1.89.162 (talk) 18:39, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T18:39:00.000Z","author":"68.1.89.162","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:39:00.000Z-Vampires_Suck","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:40:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Request denied. I asked you to start making constructive edits; up to now you are merely being disruptive. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 18:40, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T18:40:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:40:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:43:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:40:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Actually I haven't. I've been trying to fix this crappy article. I'm trying to add an external link. Why do you have to be such a wiki-nazi?68.1.89.162 (talk) 18:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T18:43:00.000Z","author":"68.1.89.162","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:43:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:44:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:43:00.000Z"]}}-->
    • And thank you for proving Godwin's law. Drmies (talk) 18:44, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T18:44:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:44:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

And thanks for being a jerk. I didn't vandalize. You are not assuming good faith edits on my part, which they are. I request redaction of all warnings, as I'm not fucking vandalizing anything. 68.1.89.162 (talk) 18:45, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T18:45:00.000Z","author":"68.1.89.162","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:45:00.000Z-Vampires_Suck","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:47:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:45:00.000Z","c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:53:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Good luck. You can try your luck at WP:ANI, and maybe you can get me blocked there for being a nazi. Drmies (talk) 18:47, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T18:47:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:47:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
• Tell me how my edits were vandalism.68.1.89.162 (talk) 18:53, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T18:53:00.000Z","author":"68.1.89.162","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:53:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:57:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • The persistent reintroduction of text or links not in accordance with our guidelines, after this has been explained to you, without explanation but with cuss words, that is disruptive behavior. Calling other editors nazis (you already did in an edit summary) and jerks, that's very uncivil. Besides, my talk page is a fuck-free zone, except for some who have a special invitation. Have a nice day. Drmies (talk) 18:57, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T18:57:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:57:00.000Z-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T18:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T19:01:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:57:00.000Z","c-Coasterlover1994-2010-07-15T19:03:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Ahem* My previous edits do not have anything to do with the warning you gave. It sounds like you are friends with another editor and are holding person grudges against users. I will have to contact Wikipedia via e-mail about that. And I was only persistent because another link was done the exact same way on the page. I have removed it. Now please remove my warnings, and I am not a vandal. 68.1.89.162 (talk) 19:01, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T19:01:00.000Z","author":"68.1.89.162","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T19:01:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

We on Wikipedia don't hold grudges. However, you did violate the three revert rule. Coasterlover1994^{Leave your mark!} 19:03, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T19:03:00.000Z","author":"Coasterlover1994","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Coasterlover1994-2010-07-15T19:03:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T18:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-15T19:08:00.000Z-Coasterlover1994-2010-07-15T19:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Coasterlover"}}-->

Coasterlover, you are an optimist! No, I don't really hold grudges either, but this Nazi-stuff has to stop. Drmies (talk) 19:08, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T19:08:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-15T19:08:00.000Z-Coasterlover1994-2010-07-15T19:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T19:10:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T19:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

I will be writing an e-mail regardless with all 3 of your user names in it. I am not a vandal. And I can call you a Nazi all I want, it's not an attack if I think highly of them. Actually it would be a compliment. 68.1.89.162 (talk) 19:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T19:10:00.000Z","author":"68.1.89.162","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-68.1.89.162-2010-07-15T19:10:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-15T19:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

And to the IP editor, dude seriously? Why don't you just remove the warnings from your page yourself if they bother you so much. Good luck with that email. Millahnna (mouse)talk 19:12, 15 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-15T19:12:00.000Z","author":"Millahnna","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Millahnna-2010-07-15T19:12:00.000Z-Vampires_Suck","replies":[],"displayName":"Millahnna (mouse)"}}-->

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Many thanks for the appreciation. The line about Hynde and the map was actually was by user:Chzz who very kindly added it to take the article above the minimum size limit which it fell short of originally by a couple of words. Regards Motmit (talk) 17:53, 16 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-16T17:53:00.000Z","author":"Motmit","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Motmit-2010-07-16T17:53:00.000Z-Sashes","replies":[]}}-->

Sometimes it helps resolve editor disputes if there is a 3rd party intermediary. Would you care to act as one to help us? I suggest you look at both his and my talk pages as I really have tried to talk this out with him and that will give you some background to work with.-65.185.178.220 (talk) 00:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:16:00.000Z","author":"65.185.178.220","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-65.185.178.220-2010-07-17T00:16:00.000Z-SB_1070_Edits","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:19:00.000Z-65.185.178.220-2010-07-17T00:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I had a look, thanks. I think there's something to be said for both versions: the earlier one read better (less technical--that's appropriate to a lead) while yours had some useful content (but not such a well-formed reference). I hope you don't mind that I reverted to an earlier version--and it doesn't mean that I endorse the suggestion that it was vandalism! Drmies (talk) 00:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:19:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:19:00.000Z-65.185.178.220-2010-07-17T00:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:22:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Did I say "thanks for your message" already? Thanks for your message. Drmies (talk) 00:22, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:22:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:22:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dude, leave the webOS article alone. I'm organizing an effort to add more reference materail. STOP REMOVING THE COMMUNITY SECTION! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bshedwick (talk • contribs) 00:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z","author":"Bshedwick","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bshedwick-2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z-webOS","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-17T16:39:00.000Z-Bshedwick-2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Wow, your teachers must have really loved you and your behavior. Drmies (talk) 16:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T16:39:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-17T16:39:00.000Z-Bshedwick-2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

thanks for your input regarding the anon. In fact, the long standing summary has been agreed upon by various editors per WP:LEAD. I'm assuming that this will be reverted again in the next days. As for me, I'm done for now; I don't have too much time to waste on someone like that. Cheers! Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 00:17, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:17:00.000Z","author":"Seb az86556","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:17:00.000Z-thanks","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:20:00.000Z-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:17:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Choyoo\u0142\u02bc\u012f\u012fh\u00ed:Seb az86556"}}-->

• Seb, thanks for the note--but I do believe that these were good-faith efforts. There is a section on the talk page for this? If so, please post the link, here or on the IP's talk page. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 00:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:20:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:20:00.000Z-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:23:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:20:00.000Z","c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:20:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • I'll get to that later. Need to distract myself for now... tedious stuff like that isn't always healthy ;) ... Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 00:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Seb az86556","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:23:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:20:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Choyoo\u0142\u02bc\u012f\u012fh\u00ed:Seb az86556"}}-->
  • I'm OK with your removing the warnings, they've been received by now anyways. Actually, the npa-warning was for lecturing another editor about his inability to do "grade school math", and other arrogant attack-stunts. This IP (SPI) has a short but aggressive history, hence I might have shot over the rim a bit. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 00:39, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z","author":"Seb az86556","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:50:00.000Z-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Choyoo\u0142\u02bc\u012f\u012fh\u00ed:Seb az86556"}}-->
    • Sorry, I didn't know that--should have looked a little harder. Thanks for your note Seb, and again, my apologies if I overstepped my boundaries. As for distracting oneself: I made some mushroom-filled ravioli (well, someone else made them for me) and pesto, fresh from the garden, and I'm having a ridiculously expensive beer. You should try that! Drmies (talk) 00:50, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:50:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:50:00.000Z-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:52:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:50:00.000Z"]}}-->
      • Ravioli sounds good, but I am strictly non-alcoholic. Btw, no-one "oversteps boundaries", the opposite is true, it helped me not to get tangled up in some silly edit-war, or "lose it" in some other fashion. Thanks, you're on my watchlist now. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 00:52, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T00:52:00.000Z","author":"Seb az86556","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:52:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-17T00:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-17T01:00:00.000Z-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Choyoo\u0142\u02bc\u012f\u012fh\u00ed:Seb az86556"}}-->
        • Hmm they are far from notable anyways. If you ever change your life's philosophy, give them a try. I'm considering a sex change, to see if I'll still be an asshole if I'm a girl. Take care Seb; I've seen you around and you're doing good work, and I appreciate it. Drmies (talk) 01:00, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T01:00:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-17T01:00:00.000Z-Seb_az86556-2010-07-17T00:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Deleting practically all the text relating to the Italian method of cooking and its applications, I also notice that you did this without discussion. Care to explain? Also, do you have an interest in the actual subject or are you just patrolling Wikipedia on pages you're not well versed in? 78.150.192.118 (talk) 16:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T16:31:00.000Z","author":"78.150.192.118","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-78.150.192.118-2010-07-17T16:31:00.000Z-I_noticed_you_have_both_merged_and_torn_to_shreds_the_Mirpoix_\/Soffritto_pages.","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-17T16:36:00.000Z-78.150.192.118-2010-07-17T16:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Wow, that's a nice way to open a conversation. Since you ask this way, no, I don't care to explain this to you, but I'll give you some letters: WP:RS and WP:V. One more suggestion: if you want to cuss at me some more, look below the edit screen while you're doing it, where it says "Encyclopedic content must be verifiable." Thank you. Drmies (talk) 16:36, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T16:36:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-17T16:36:00.000Z-78.150.192.118-2010-07-17T16:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

In reply to this, I usually search for the most general first, and then refine the searches when I get too many irrelevant hits. In this case I didn't even try searching for the Islamic name, as there are too many possible spelling variants, so I simply did a Google Books search for "De Veenboer", fully expecting to get too many false positives for it to be of any use. It was just luck that the first hit was a children's book with some coverage of our De Veenboer, and the third was the book that I cited in the AfD discussion. You were certainly right to question that "1620 Deaths" book - we can't source articles from Wikipedia mirrors. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:20, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T19:20:00.000Z","author":"Phil Bridger","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Phil_Bridger-2010-07-17T19:20:00.000Z-Concerning_Google-fu","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-17T19:30:00.000Z-Phil_Bridger-2010-07-17T19:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Thanks Phil. Listen, ever since I nominated that article (and I didn't enjoy doing so, but AfD sometimes helps improve articles) I've had this Neil Diamond song in my head. Now, Neil Diamond is great, but "Soolaimon" sucks. Later! Drmies (talk) 19:30, 17 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-17T19:30:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-17T19:30:00.000Z-Phil_Bridger-2010-07-17T19:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This information is cited and is formatted better than the above paragraph format. It definitely is encyclopedic and serves as a strong reference in table format. -dchoy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dchoy (talk • contribs) 16:39, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-18T16:39:00.000Z","author":"Dchoy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dchoy-2010-07-18T16:39:00.000Z-Sheet_pan","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-18T16:44:00.000Z-Dchoy-2010-07-18T16:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Commercial websites should not function as references. Drmies (talk) 16:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-18T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-18T16:44:00.000Z-Dchoy-2010-07-18T16:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bongomatic-2010-07-18T17:20:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-18T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think what the good doctor means is that websites that promote specific products or services should not be used as references for those products or services (the New York Times is a commercial website that is usually considered to be a reasonable reference). ^Bongo_matic 17:20, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-18T17:20:00.000Z","author":"Bongomatic","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bongomatic-2010-07-18T17:20:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-18T16:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-18T17:35:00.000Z-Bongomatic-2010-07-18T17:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you Bongo--for the compliment as well. Drmies (talk) 17:35, 18 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-18T17:35:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-18T17:35:00.000Z-Bongomatic-2010-07-18T17:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This user is part of the Goy cabal aiming for world-dominance.

drmies is a JEW —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.100.174.159 (talk) 02:20, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T02:20:00.000Z","author":"72.100.174.159","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-72.100.174.159-2010-07-19T02:20:00.000Z-drmies_is_a_JEW","replies":["c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-19T02:23:00.000Z-72.100.174.159-2010-07-19T02:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

if so, what's your point? Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 ^{> haneʼ} 02:23, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T02:23:00.000Z","author":"Seb az86556","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Seb_az86556-2010-07-19T02:23:00.000Z-72.100.174.159-2010-07-19T02:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-19T02:38:00.000Z-Seb_az86556-2010-07-19T02:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Choyoo\u0142\u02bc\u012f\u012fh\u00ed:Seb az86556"}}-->

Haha, look at the user's other contributions (note: I saw that you saw--thanks for keeping it clean). BTW, Seb, I have been accused of being a zionist because of the "Jewish" star on my user page look at the top, right. Come to think of it, this is the first time someone calls me a Jew--I am honored. Shalom, 72.100.174.159! Drmies (talk) 02:38, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T02:38:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-19T02:38:00.000Z-Seb_az86556-2010-07-19T02:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-07-19T02:51:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T02:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hehe, the five-pointed "Bacon Cabal" star is a Jewish star? That's a good one! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 02:51, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T02:51:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-19T02:51:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T02:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-19T03:00:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-19T02:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks Seb--I'm moving that to my user page right now. Are you joining? Remember, you can't be Jewish! Oh, hey, HalfShadowyou're back: welcome back! Have a Piraat! Now stop devandalizing my talk page! Drmies (talk) 03:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T03:00:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-19T03:00:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-19T02:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-19T02:57:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T03:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

I am not kidding, Mandarax--I was (take a deep breath) accused over the phone at my place of employment by the subject of a Wikipedia article who was running in a primary for some state office in Florida that I was aiming to delete his article because he had a moderate, well-balanced stance on the question of Israel and I was clearly a Zionist with an agenda both on- and off-wiki. Phew. That was fun, but only afterwards. Yes! A bacon star! That was the weirdest wiki moment I ever had. You're really an insomniac? I love sleep. Drmies (talk) 02:57, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T02:57:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-19T02:57:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T03:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-07-19T09:54:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T02:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wow. I hope that user got banned and I sure hope he lost the election. I joke about stalking you when I peruse your contributions, but that guy's actions were potentially scary.

You love sleep? Well, to quote Joe Walsh, "Ain't never been there, they tell me it's nice ." MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 09:54, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T09:54:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-19T09:54:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T02:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

<--No, it wasn't Ecoleetage, although that was interesting also, but I was only sideways involved. Yes, that person did lose the primary, and a bureaucrat of some rank spoke with them over the phone. Thanks Mandarax for your note--but child duties are calling me. ("Night-Night, Little Pookie"). Drmies (talk) 15:19, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T15:19:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:19:00.000Z-drmies_is_a_JEW","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-07-19T18:07:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, I didn't mean to imply that the two users were the same. When I heard of telephone harassment I just immediately thought of that other case. (And I didn't know you were involved, sideways or otherwise.) I'm glad to hear that your guy got at least some verbal punishment, and that he lost, not only because of the harassment, but I don't like the idea of someone holding public office who apparently lacks the basic skills required to distinguish between a five-pointed bacon star and a Star of David and then makes accusations based on an erroneous assumption. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:07, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T18:07:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-19T18:07:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:19:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-22T01:06:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-19T18:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

Mandarax, your hidden liberal agenda is right there plain for all to see who know the truth. Haha, did I mention that the candidate in question was a Democrat? That made it even worse, in my opinion. You know, I got a lot of mileage out of the story though--that particular star-error is useful in my profession as well, when I teach Sir Gawain and the Green Knight. Oh, my bacon-eating Jewish colleague got a a kick out of it as well. BTW, Did I mention already that I'm kind of baconed out? Drmies (talk) 01:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T01:06:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-22T01:06:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-19T18:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-07-22T20:43:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-22T01:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't think that's necessarily the case. Thinking of internationally known scatterbrained politicians, those two immediately sprang to mind, and I can't think of any others.

You had previously mentioned that your wife was baconed out, but I'm surprised to hear it about you. That's good news, as I see an inverse relationship between bacon consumption and life expectancy. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:43, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T20:43:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-22T20:43:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-22T01:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kelapstick-2010-07-23T02:27:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-22T20:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

I just got back to this thread, and saw Night-Night, Little Pokey reference, I picked up another one of hers I hadn't seen before the last time I was "inbound" through YYZ, the little guy loved it. His favorite is still Goodnight Moon, which I can recite from memory...--kelapstick (talk) 02:27, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-23T02:27:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-07-23T02:27:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-22T20:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I must say, even though the section title for this discussion merely exposes the great ignorance (on multiple levels) of the original poster, I find it bothersome. Just me... LadyofShalott 03:40, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-23T03:40:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-07-23T03:40:00.000Z-drmies_is_a_JEW","replies":[],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

Hi Drmies. I'm trying to figure out what is going on here... for instance, in this edit, if I'm reading it right, you reverted the addition of some bluelinked bios to the article. How come? This was a reversion of 23 edits by User:69.180.253.113; you have peppered his talk page with warnings, but why? I haven't looked at the individual edits, but the sum of the 23 edits show here looks at least defensible. He added Ayaan Hirsi Ali, and that person has a Wikipedia article. According to the article she was born and partly raised in Somalia, and now lives in the United States. And so forth. If these people have articles, and are African, and have emigrated to the United States, what is the rationale for excluding them? Herostratus (talk) 04:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T04:49:00.000Z","author":"Herostratus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Herostratus-2010-07-19T04:49:00.000Z-re_African_immigration_to_the_United_States","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-19T14:49:00.000Z-Herostratus-2010-07-19T04:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Herostratus, you are right: when I clicked rollback I didn't look down enough to see those two additions (the "mocky" link looked like a test to me, and the resulting pictures in the infobox were terrible); I saw them later, after the IP started all over again with test edits--that's what some of those 23 edits (editor doesn't seem to use preview) are, they seriously mess up formatting. The editor has, on the whole, been less than helpful: this latest edit is typical, and a quick look at the history reveals that there isn't much productive going on here. And I didn't exactly pepper their talk page: I placed two warnings there, and I believe I was in my right to do so--the constant re-insertion of incorrect material (not the addition of Ali, obviously--and I know who she is) without any explanation, that is disruptive (I am not the only editor to think so, as the history shows). Mind you, I have no intention of having someone blocked. I am going to put Ali and the other back in--but I will also revert this messing up of the formatting, combined with a "preview" notification template. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 14:49, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T14:49:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-19T14:49:00.000Z-Herostratus-2010-07-19T04:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Herostratus-2010-07-20T06:11:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T14:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Thanks for responding. On my slow equipment, it's painful to go through each of these edits. So, no problem. You might want to take a look at Talk:African immigration to the United States#Who is notable?, although I'm afraid I did get rather long-winded. Herostratus (talk) 06:11, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-20T06:11:00.000Z","author":"Herostratus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Herostratus-2010-07-20T06:11:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T14:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Re your message: The article has been restored by the editor, though this time with references. Some of the references are not very good, but it does seem that she is notable in some regard. The article is a mess though. I agree that the puffery is a little over the top. I suspect that this goes beyond a fan. Checking the photos uploaded for the article, the person is likely to be much closer than a fan such as a friend or PR agent. It appears to me to be somebody much closer than just an enthusiastic fan who happened to get into multiple award ceremonies. -- Gogo Dodo (talk) 05:34, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T05:34:00.000Z","author":"Gogo Dodo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gogo_Dodo-2010-07-19T05:34:00.000Z-Re:_Ufuoma_Ejenobor","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:16:00.000Z-Gogo_Dodo-2010-07-19T05:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

• What to do, Gogo? It's like I spent all of yesterday rolling back things. That article is more than a little over the top, fluff-wise: some of the content is ridiculously unencyclopedic, and many of the references are 'references'--see this, for instance. Did you note they also got rid of the nice templated sources I added? Drmies (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T15:16:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:16:00.000Z-Gogo_Dodo-2010-07-19T05:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Drmies. A couple of months ago you were kind enough to encourage me to run for office as an admin. Bolstered by remarks from Bubba hotep, I am now jumping into it. If my casually sexist remark at User talk:SummerPhD#Nice work (saw that one too late to defend myself against your entirely justified criticism ) or the unkind words I spoke (correction: yelled at the top of my voice) about the Dutch National Football Team during the recent World Cup Final haven't caused you to change your mind, my as yet unpublished self-nomination is at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Favonian. Cheers! Favonian (talk) 12:22, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T12:22:00.000Z","author":"Favonian","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Favonian-2010-07-19T12:22:00.000Z-Still_in_good_standing?","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:09:00.000Z-Favonian-2010-07-19T12:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

• You have my vote, Favonian. Let me know when I can sign up--the world can always use more Red, White, Danish Dynamite (I don't agree with that redirect, but soit). Drmies (talk) 15:09, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T15:09:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:09:00.000Z-Favonian-2010-07-19T12:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Favonian-2010-07-19T15:37:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:09:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Thanks muchly, you now have the chance. There wasn't much Danish Dynamite at the latest World Cup Favonian (talk) 15:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T15:37:00.000Z","author":"Favonian","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Favonian-2010-07-19T15:37:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-19T15:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-20T00:26:00.000Z-Favonian-2010-07-19T15:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
    • Wow, that went fast--I'm no. 49. Good luck, and thanks for keeping me posted! Drmies (talk) 00:26, 20 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-20T00:26:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-20T00:26:00.000Z-Favonian-2010-07-19T15:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

		The Mandarax Barnstar of Excellence
		Drmies, I am pleased to award you this MBE in recognition of your outstanding contributions to Wikipedia. Whether it's writing articles, fighting vandalism, or contributing in other ways, your work has been exemplary and has inspired me. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-21T10:09:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-21T10:09:00.000Z-The_Mandarax_Barnstar_of_Excellence","replies":[]}}-->

I had decided a long time ago to award this to you in commemoration of either your 100th DYK or my 100,000th edit. I was absolutely certain that your milestone would occur first, but you've kinda been slacking off lately in the DYK department!

Well, this is now a tradition, as I also awarded a long-overdue MBE to another user as my 50,000th edit. Anyways, you're very deserving of this! MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 10:09, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-21T10:09:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-21T10:09:00.000Z-The_Mandarax_Barnstar_of_Excellence-1","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-21T16:58:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-21T10:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Mandarax, thank you so much for your kind and generous words. I promise you I'll get back to DYK (gotta get tenure first, and we just got a new puppy...). I'll say a toast to you and your own milestone (100,000--amazing) with an obscenely expensive beer tonight! Drmies (talk) 16:58, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-21T16:58:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-21T16:58:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-21T10:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-07-21T18:22:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-21T16:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

You're welcome, I'm sorry, and thank you. You're very welcome for my sincere praise. I'm sorry for playfully chiding you about DYK. And thank you for the toast. BTW, I hereby release you from your prior 100,000 commitment. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:22, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-21T18:22:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-21T18:22:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-21T16:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-21T20:11:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-21T18:22:00.000Z","c-Mandarax-2010-08-02T19:16:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-21T18:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Well, you did prompt me to see where 91-100 might come from. Ad Valvas is not one of them. I'm not quite sure what the gift was that I had in mind--but possibly you'd enjoy a tattoo? Hey, this puppy is funny. Not as funny as our almost two-year old, but pretty funny. It's nice to be a human. Oh, many moons ago you posted some statistic about which article we both had worked on. How did you do that? I ran into you again the other day, somewhere. Have a great day! Drmies (talk) 20:11, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-21T20:11:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-21T20:11:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-21T18:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-07-21T21:01:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-21T20:11:00.000Z"]}}-->

I currently have my third DYK on the nomination page (or, as I like to call it, the Queue queue), and I know of at least four more that I intend to do some day. The MBE committee was very impressed with your 90 DYKs.

The Intersect Contribs tool was showing 798 pages which we've both edited, after my edit to Ad Valvas. Having watched Monk, I realize the value of even numbers, so I did two more minor edits to bring it up to an even 800. Yes, I know, Monk would've done 202 more, but I ain't Monk. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 21:01, 21 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-21T21:01:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-21T21:01:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-21T20:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Drmies, I'd like to point out a tiny coincidence. Four months before I awarded you this MBE, you made two consecutive edits in which one edit summary mentioned an MBE and the other mentioned me. Did I say "coincidence"? No, it's evidence of your precognitive abilities. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-02T19:16:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-08-02T19:16:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-21T18:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bongomatic-2010-07-22T01:00:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-02T19:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

This stub I created is ripe for expansion and DKY . . . with a ton of easy and relevant (and currently interesting) links for the hook, such as this, this, and this. ^Bongo_matic 01:00, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T01:00:00.000Z","author":"Bongomatic","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Bongomatic-2010-07-22T01:00:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-02T19:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-22T17:47:00.000Z-Bongomatic-2010-07-22T01:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

But Bongo--it's not about bacon, guitars, motorcycles, epic Mongolian literature, or formerly black-only beaches, so I don't know anything about it! Drmies (talk) 17:47, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T17:47:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-22T17:47:00.000Z-Bongomatic-2010-07-22T01:00:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Maybe it's time to expand your horizon to influential Hungarian-American businessmen. ^Bongo_matic 02:12, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-23T02:12:00.000Z","author":"Bongomatic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bongomatic-2010-07-23T02:12:00.000Z-The_Mandarax_Barnstar_of_Excellence","replies":[]}}-->

Hi! Could you please do this translation in your user space and not on a main page. Otherwise it will be very speedily deleted. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 17:36, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T17:36:00.000Z","author":"Kudpung","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:36:00.000Z-Hochland_(magazine)","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-22T17:46:00.000Z-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:36:00.000Z","c-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:51:00.000Z-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Yeah, I don't think so, but thank you nonetheless. Drmies (talk) 17:46, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-22T17:46:00.000Z-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:36:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please prepare this translation in your user space and not on a main page. Thanks.--Kudpung (talk) 17:51, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T17:51:00.000Z","author":"Kudpung","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:51:00.000Z-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-22T18:22:00.000Z-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, but I read your comment the first time, and didn't think it very helpful. When something like that article comes along, with a lead and a number of references, on a topic that is obviously notable, don't propose speedy deletion unless you want to get slapped on the wrist by a reviewing administrator or a more seasoned editor. Happy trails. Drmies (talk) 18:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T18:22:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-22T18:22:00.000Z-Kudpung-2010-07-22T17:51:00.000Z","replies":["c-LadyofShalott-2010-07-22T22:02:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-22T18:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yeah, I don't know what state the article was in when Kudpung made his/her first comment, but any speedy tag now is likely just to irritate whoever goes to check it out. LadyofShalott 22:02, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T22:02:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-07-22T22:02:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-22T18:22:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

...Example of the work of a more seasoned editor: [1], and BTW, the children and less seasoned editors on NPP don't provide polite requests, they just shoot CSD from the hip. --Kudpung (talk) 23:06, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T23:06:00.000Z","author":"Kudpung","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kudpung-2010-07-22T23:06:00.000Z-Hochland_(magazine)","replies":["c-LadyofShalott-2010-07-22T23:21:00.000Z-Kudpung-2010-07-22T23:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK, what I see there is not deletable under any speedy criterion I can think of. The only possible one is recreation of an article from another language wiki, but there is the beginning of a translation along with an underconstruction tag. Granted, someone might tag it for speedy deletion, but that request should have been denied if it were made. LadyofShalott 23:21, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T23:21:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-07-22T23:21:00.000Z-Kudpung-2010-07-22T23:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-23T00:01:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2010-07-22T23:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

Hello Lady--have you seen Alabama Book Festival already? And have I already invited, only for you to turn me down again? With a little bit of luck, Rick Bragg won't be there this year! Drmies (talk) 00:01, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-23T00:01:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-23T00:01:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2010-07-22T23:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-LadyofShalott-2010-07-23T03:41:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-23T00:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hey Dr Mies, I had not, but now I have - thanks for pointing it out! So, what's the timing for next year? LadyofShalott 03:41, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-23T03:41:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-07-23T03:41:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-23T00:01:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

Awwww, thanks for the recognition. You may have meant this as a symbolic gesture, which is fine, as my tiny contributions are not worthy. But, for future reference, in case you're unaware of it, when adding someone whose contributions truly merit a DYK credit, you've got to add a {{DYKmake}} for them. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 22:55, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T22:55:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-22T22:55:00.000Z-Thanks_2","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-22T23:44:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-22T22:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Mandarax, as I said, some small edits are really big. As for the template you kindly provided--I don't really know what it is or what to make of it! ;) (Seriously, clicking on it doesn't help either--that page explains nothing, and I've noticed, with many of those templates, a glaring lack of talk pages that might provide instructions.) Drmies (talk) 23:44, 22 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-22T23:44:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-22T23:44:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-22T22:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-07-23T00:49:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-22T23:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

On behalf of myself and other gnomes, thank you for recognizing the value of small contributions. Yes, the template "documentation" does not appear to be very helpful. Fortunately it's added automatically when you add a new nomination with {{NewDYKnom}}. But to manually add creators/expanders, you'd add a *{{DYKmake|Article name|username}} for each user. If you look at a nomination, you'll see where it goes. Although they're commented out on the nomination page, they're uncommented when moved to Queue, and the bot uses them to actually give credits. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:49, 23 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-23T00:49:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-23T00:49:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-22T23:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

...of this nomination?--kelapstick (talk) 03:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-24T03:21:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:21:00.000Z-What_do_you_think...","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:24:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

...wow Kelapstick...pretty impressive! Drmies (talk) 03:24, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-24T03:24:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:24:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:37:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

It was a lot of fun, of course I can't take all the credit. Regarding this edit summary, if you can't trust the word of the Tanzanian Government, who can you trust! Thanks for the cleanup. Cheers, --kelapstick (talk) 03:37, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-24T03:37:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:37:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:24:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:38:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sure thing, K--glad to be of help. Hey, we got a new puppy! It's tiny! And hairy! And man it screams when you give it a bath. Drmies (talk) 03:38, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-24T03:38:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:38:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:37:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:40:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:38:00.000Z"]}}-->

I read that, the kids must love that. Do you want a 5 year old pug to go with it? Not neurotic at all *rolls eyes*. --kelapstick (talk) 03:40, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-24T03:40:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:40:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:38:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:44:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, my oldest daughter is pissed, since the dog likes to sit at my feet in the kitchen (waiting for bacon or chicken to drop, of course), and so she thinks the dog likes me more than her. Oh, and she has picked up every shoe in the house already. This sucks too--she has one of those hard plastic Disney slippers right now, that the kids like to walk around on: imagine the noise that makes on hardwood. Now, if it were up to me, the sooner Lola tears those things up the better, but that teaches her bad behavior, of course... What to do? Drmies (talk) 03:44, 24 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-24T03:44:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-24T03:44:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-07-24T03:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I made a coupla minor edits to Julie von Massow (d'oh! 1001!), but there's a link to the disambiguation page Halle for which I don't know the proper disambiguation. I'm pretty sure it's not Halle Berry, but other than that.... MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 04:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T04:56:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-25T04:56:00.000Z-Julie_von_Massow","replies":[]}}-->

I thought you might be interested to know that all Mao badges on Commons have been nominated for deletion by User:Sandstein. If you wish to participate in the deletion discussion please check out http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:Mao_Badge_12.jpg. BabelStone (talk) 11:26, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T11:26:00.000Z","author":"BabelStone","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BabelStone-2010-07-25T11:26:00.000Z-Chairman_Mao_badges_up_for_deletion","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-25T12:56:00.000Z-BabelStone-2010-07-25T11:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

• BabelStone, I had a copyright question the other day and found User:Moonriddengirl and User:MLauba to be very knowledgeable and helpful. In these matters, as Manuel used to say, "I know nothing." Thanks for letting me know and good luck with the cause. Drmies (talk) 12:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T12:56:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-25T12:56:00.000Z-BabelStone-2010-07-25T11:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kelapstick-2010-07-25T13:01:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-25T12:56:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Doc, I prefer words of wisdom by Sgt. Schultz, "I know nothing, and understand even less". but that's just me.--kelapstick (talk) 13:01, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T13:01:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-07-25T13:01:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-25T12:56:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

May I ask why? Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:01, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T15:01:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-25T15:01:00.000Z-Pig?","replies":["c-Beland-2010-07-25T15:05:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-25T15:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

If you're asking why I added it...well, the whole bakery chain is named after the idiom. I thought it was an amusing tidbit that could either go here or "in popular culture". If you're asking why the bakery is named When Pigs Fly, that I could not say. -- Beland (talk) 15:05, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T15:05:00.000Z","author":"Beland","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Beland-2010-07-25T15:05:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-25T15:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-25T15:08:00.000Z-Beland-2010-07-25T15:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

That's why I asked, yes. It seemed like the kind of commercial link that WP:EL advises against. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 15:08, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T15:08:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-25T15:08:00.000Z-Beland-2010-07-25T15:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for the look out on my talk page.--Jojhutton (talk) 15:19, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T15:19:00.000Z","author":"Jojhutton","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jojhutton-2010-07-25T15:19:00.000Z-Vandal_Fighter","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-25T15:20:00.000Z-Jojhutton-2010-07-25T15:19:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Sure thing. Keep the faith, Drmies (talk) 15:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T15:20:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-25T15:20:00.000Z-Jojhutton-2010-07-25T15:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can you rescue this article? Take a look at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Seasons of Tragedy. See also benedictum.net for sources.--Cannibaloki 20:35, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T20:35:00.000Z","author":"Cannibaloki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cannibaloki-2010-07-25T20:35:00.000Z-Seasons_of_Tragedy","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-25T21:10:00.000Z-Cannibaloki-2010-07-25T20:35:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Canniba"}}-->

• I don't know, Loki. There's a hit on Blabbermouth, saying it's "critically acclaimed," but I don't see that much evidence of that after a quick look at their site. I'll look again later. Drmies (talk) 21:10, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T21:10:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-25T21:10:00.000Z-Cannibaloki-2010-07-25T20:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sorry. I guess I wasn't clear. I wasn't adding sourced text, I was removing a cut and paste job from http://www.scribd.com/doc/32589268/Encyclopedia-of-Vampires-Werewolves-And-Other-Monsters. Some guy is adding straight cut and pastes from that source to multiple articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.162.229.37 (talk) 22:31, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T22:31:00.000Z","author":"99.162.229.37","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-99.162.229.37-2010-07-25T22:31:00.000Z-Adlet","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-25T22:44:00.000Z-99.162.229.37-2010-07-25T22:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Gotcha--thanks. I've begun a little bit of work on the article--it's fascinating material and I'm finding some sources with Google Books. Feel free to pitch in--there might be a Did You Know nomination in there. Drmies (talk) 22:44, 25 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-25T22:44:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-25T22:44:00.000Z-99.162.229.37-2010-07-25T22:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-07-26T19:59:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-25T22:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

About that DYK nom, there's a link to the disambiguation page Native Americans, and although I think it should dab to Alaska Natives, I'm not positive that it shouldn't be something else such as Native Americans in the United States. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 19:59, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-26T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-07-26T19:59:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-25T22:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-26T20:00:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-26T19:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks Mandarax--I'll have to look closely at that; I didn't realize it pointed to a dab page. Isn't that a fascinating topic, though? Drmies (talk) 20:00, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-26T20:00:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-26T20:00:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-07-26T19:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I collapsed the warnings (inc yours) on User talk:Random Domains.

Of course, the user has 'seen' them, so it has no bearing on their effect, does not preclude a block if they carry on. I'm just trying to get them on track.

I'm sure you'll understand from my message on their talk; I just wanted to let you know, as a courtesy.

I'll try to help them, if at all possible.

Hope you're not annoyed.

Cheers,  Chzz  ►  20:22, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-26T20:22:00.000Z","author":"Chzz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chzz-2010-07-26T20:22:00.000Z-Random_Domains","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-26T23:02:00.000Z-Chzz-2010-07-26T20:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Not at all, Chaz. Thanks, and thanks for the note! Drmies (talk) 23:02, 26 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-26T23:02:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-26T23:02:00.000Z-Chzz-2010-07-26T20:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for reverting the sock/vandal. Elockid ^(Talk) 17:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Elockid","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Elockid-2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z-Thanks_3","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z-Elockid-2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Sure thing. Aren't you simply waiting for the next one? :) Drmies (talk) 17:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z-Elockid-2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Elockid-2010-07-27T17:48:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

As much as I would love to wait and handle the next account, I gotta go study. :( Elockid ^(Talk) 17:48, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-27T17:48:00.000Z","author":"Elockid","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Elockid-2010-07-27T17:48:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-07-27T17:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hey thanks for the help with the Dazer Laser. I was wondering if you could help me structure the article and possibly bring in some pictures? Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannesdisilenti (talk • contribs) 18:07, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-27T18:07:00.000Z","author":"Johannesdisilenti","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Johannesdisilenti-2010-07-27T18:07:00.000Z-Dazer_Laser","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-27T18:08:00.000Z-Johannesdisilenti-2010-07-27T18:07:00.000Z","c-Johannesdisilenti-2010-07-27T18:11:00.000Z-Johannesdisilenti-2010-07-27T18:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Sure thing. But there isn't much to structure since the article is so short, and barring a large number of secondary sources I don't see how it could expand easily--but if you can find sources you can add text. I don't have any pictures, sorry--I only have lethal weapons (or so my wife tells me). Drmies (talk) 18:08, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-27T18:08:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-27T18:08:00.000Z-Johannesdisilenti-2010-07-27T18:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Thanks. I'll try to put some time into it tonight. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Johannesdisilenti (talk • contribs) 18:11, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-27T18:11:00.000Z","author":"Johannesdisilenti","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Johannesdisilenti-2010-07-27T18:11:00.000Z-Johannesdisilenti-2010-07-27T18:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can you please explain why you removed this name] from Himara [[2]]? Also the edit summary sounds very weird (nothing to do with blp vio). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexikoua (talk • contribs)

• Of course it has everything to do with BLP violations. You can't claim someone is from somewhere, especially if that somewhere is contentious (the talk page proves that). Read up, at WP:BLP. There's nothing weird about my edit summary, unless you want to claim that your supermodel is dead. A Google search is not a reliable source, obviously, and rather than undo my edit and then place a fact tag there (and a reference to another WP article--but Wikipedia is not a source for Wikipedia), you should consider writing her article (if indeed she is notable), with references to reliable sources, and then adding her. Drmies (talk) 21:10, 27 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-27T21:10:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-27T21:10:00.000Z-Ioanna_Dedi","replies":[]}}-->

Why, may I ask, did you remove the YOUTUBE link from the DAN HAREN page? It was current info about him from FOXSPORTS. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.92.152 (talk) 04:07, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-28T04:07:00.000Z","author":"67.85.92.152","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-67.85.92.152-2010-07-28T04:07:00.000Z-Ioanna_Dedi","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-28T13:44:00.000Z-67.85.92.152-2010-07-28T04:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

• YouTube is not a reliable source. If anything verifies something in the article, it should be brought in as a references, not just as a link with no information attached to it, but YouTube links usually don't count as references. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 13:44, 28 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-28T13:44:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-28T13:44:00.000Z-67.85.92.152-2010-07-28T04:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I thought we had him discussing as is the wiki way, but no such luck, seems to just want to write his own BLP, tiresome indeed. Off2riorob (talk) 22:18, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-29T22:18:00.000Z","author":"Off2riorob","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Off2riorob-2010-07-29T22:18:00.000Z-Leopold","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-07-29T22:21:00.000Z-Off2riorob-2010-07-29T22:18:00.000Z","c-Fences_and_windows-2010-08-02T12:18:00.000Z-Off2riorob-2010-07-29T22:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

• That stupid stuff just pisses me off (you'll have noted that my edit was a copy edit as well). "Explain"--well, read the edit summary! I left a note on their talk page as well. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 22:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-29T22:21:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-07-29T22:21:00.000Z-Off2riorob-2010-07-29T22:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Please don't swear at people like this. I'm no fan of how that editor has been behaving either, but doing it when they're blocked looks like taunting them. Could you please refactor that comment? The odd bit of swearing is fine (e.g. I have no issue with "pisses me off" above), but swearing directly at someone is another matter. Fences&Windows 12:18, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-02T12:18:00.000Z","author":"Fences and windows","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Fences_and_windows-2010-08-02T12:18:00.000Z-Off2riorob-2010-07-29T22:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-02T13:49:00.000Z-Fences_and_windows-2010-08-02T12:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Fences"}}-->
  • Fences, I'm sorry, but I am remarking on the remark, not on the person, so I don't think it's swearing ("you're full of crap" would be swearing). If you compare the two articles, you see that there is no comparison in this regard. But I'll remove it. Drmies (talk) 13:49, 2 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-02T13:49:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-02T13:49:00.000Z-Fences_and_windows-2010-08-02T12:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On August 1, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Provinciale Zeeuwse Courant, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 12:03, 1 August 2010 (UTC)

Friend, you are mistaken! I have just spent hours improving the page of my hometown, Borris-in-Ossory, Co. Laois, Ireland. My changes are not vandalism! I have uploaded graphics and built a new info-box. . . I'm very sad that all my work should go to waste! Please explain your reasons. . . if it is because of the missing licenses on the images, I'm just getting to that now. . . or at least I was, when everything went back to the way it had been on that page. I'm going to address the issues of licenses on the images, and then revert the page to the way I had it, and I hope that I won't have any problems once we sort this out. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ferntallstar (talk • contribs) 01:32, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-03T01:32:00.000Z","author":"Ferntallstar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ferntallstar-2010-08-03T01:32:00.000Z-Borris-in-Ossory","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-03T01:44:00.000Z-Ferntallstar-2010-08-03T01:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

• You'll have to invent the ossory first. Good luck with it. Drmies (talk) 01:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-03T01:44:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-03T01:44:00.000Z-Ferntallstar-2010-08-03T01:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ferntallstar-2010-08-03T02:03:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-03T01:44:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • It exists: ossory_(building)
    • Fuck you. . . you've ruined my night. Maybe you should take a closer look at the "vandalism" you so valiantly removed. Borris-in-Ossory has put up with enough grief over it's history from countless scum on the streets, and now you, a representative of the wiki-community, destroy it's history because you doubt the information I'm publishing. I still don't know what your problem is, please explain, cause to me it just looks like someone is deleting my work with no purpose. Ferntallstar (talk) 02:03, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-03T02:03:00.000Z","author":"Ferntallstar","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ferntallstar-2010-08-03T02:03:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-03T01:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-03T02:07:00.000Z-Ferntallstar-2010-08-03T02:03:00.000Z"]}}-->
      • I usually kiss before I get fucked, so no thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-03T02:07:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-03T02:07:00.000Z-Ferntallstar-2010-08-03T02:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I totally agree - I thought the information was a bit iffy and was in the process of looking for verifiable references when you did the first rollback (on the off chance that the edits where real - as they were somewhat plausible). The same info was added in May by a user with a suspiciously similar name. Keep up the good work. Clovis Sangrail (talk) 02:51, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-03T02:51:00.000Z","author":"Clovis Sangrail","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Clovis_Sangrail-2010-08-03T02:51:00.000Z-Reversion","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-03T03:00:00.000Z-Clovis_Sangrail-2010-08-03T02:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Thanks. I checked the OED, Google Books, etc--it's all BS. Drmies (talk) 03:00, 3 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-03T03:00:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-03T03:00:00.000Z-Clovis_Sangrail-2010-08-03T02:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello, Drmies. You have new messages at Codehydro's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Is it possible for the creator of an article to delete their own work? If not, how do I go about having my articles wiped? Karen.watson.emap (talk) 13:57, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-04T13:57:00.000Z","author":"Karen.watson.emap","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Karen.watson.emap-2010-08-04T13:57:00.000Z-Deletion","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-04T13:59:00.000Z-Karen.watson.emap-2010-08-04T13:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Yes it is: see Template:Db-g7. The question is, though, whether you are the only significant contributor to the article. If not, it doesn't apply, and for some of the article you created or worked on it certainly doesn't apply. That's why I suggested bringing it up at the AfD discussion, since that's a likely place for administrators (who decide on those things) to run into your question. But in the meantime, don't mess around with those articles--it's confusing and it just aggravates other editors. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 13:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-04T13:59:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-04T13:59:00.000Z-Karen.watson.emap-2010-08-04T13:57:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks - can you please tell me how to have my article deleted via the AfD discussion? Can an administrator do this? Karen.watson.emap (talk) 14:18, 4 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-04T14:18:00.000Z","author":"Karen.watson.emap","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Karen.watson.emap-2010-08-04T14:18:00.000Z-Deletion","replies":[]}}-->

As in, Bronx cheer. Or, to quote Bill the Cat (the original), "THHPPPPPPT!"--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:21, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T14:21:00.000Z","author":"SarekOfVulcan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SarekOfVulcan-2010-08-05T14:21:00.000Z-Bronx","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-05T14:25:00.000Z-SarekOfVulcan-2010-08-05T14:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Sorry, but I couldn't resist--I find myself saying (writing) that same phrase all the time here, and sometimes I correct myself, and then I feel like an even bigger dope. Happy editing! Drmies (talk) 14:25, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T14:25:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-05T14:25:00.000Z-SarekOfVulcan-2010-08-05T14:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What's going on here? Two buddies brainessly revert my 100% valid edits, fill my talk page with threats, and I am supposed to be nice? If you consider this valid reception, and if I see it again, I am out of here. (Not that it is a big threat to you, I guess. You will always find other suckers to boss around.) Lojze Pergl (talk) 16:39, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T16:39:00.000Z","author":"Lojze Pergl","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lojze_Pergl-2010-08-05T16:39:00.000Z-\"rude_editor\"?","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-05T16:49:00.000Z-Lojze_Pergl-2010-08-05T16:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Those editors are not my buddies, brainess or not. They got it wrong on that edit on Talk:Lojzo, as did I, because you removed the template without explanation--and then you go on to call people names ([3], [4], [5], etc.). Small wonder they get pissed. I don't know if I'm much of a boss, but if you want to call yourself a sucker, be my guest. I asked one editor to remove what I considered an unjust vandalism warning and they did. I see that you have just been blocked for personal attacks and harassment--that's unfortunate. Perhaps you will come back after your block expires, perhaps not--that's entirely up to you. Drmies (talk) 16:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T16:49:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-05T16:49:00.000Z-Lojze_Pergl-2010-08-05T16:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

By censoring the information put forward which pertained directly to the thread you have earned my contempt. —Preceding unsigned comment added by MarxIzalias (talk • contribs) 17:46, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T17:46:00.000Z","author":"MarxIzalias","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MarxIzalias-2010-08-05T17:46:00.000Z-The_Discussion_page_is_a_DISCUSSION.","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-05T17:48:00.000Z-MarxIzalias-2010-08-05T17:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Well, I'm going to sit in a corner and cry. Drmies (talk) 17:48, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T17:48:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-05T17:48:00.000Z-MarxIzalias-2010-08-05T17:46:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, can you help please, a user Mistery Spectre constantly sends me insulting messages on my user talk page, and tries to accuse me of being Bad editor. He came from russian Wikipedia, he don't even know english, he writes various vandalistic things, you can see it in his contributions. Dedmaan (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Dedmaan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dedmaan-2010-08-05T19:22:00.000Z-About_user","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks. Dedmaan (talk) 19:22, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T19:22:00.000Z","author":"Dedmaan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dedmaan-2010-08-05T19:22:00.000Z-About_user-1","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-05T19:29:00.000Z-Dedmaan-2010-08-05T19:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

• OK, I see what happened. You are perfectly in your right to remove those messages, and I have reverted the last one, considering it disruptive. However, I urge you to communicate with them on their talk page in English, so that other editors can assess the situation if needs be. Good luck--I hope this blows over. Drop me a line if it doesn't. Drmies (talk) 19:29, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T19:29:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-05T19:29:00.000Z-Dedmaan-2010-08-05T19:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dedmaan-2010-08-05T20:03:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-05T19:29:00.000Z","c-Mistery_Spectre-2010-08-05T22:23:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-05T19:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you. Dedmaan (talk) 20:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Dedmaan","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dedmaan-2010-08-05T20:03:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-05T19:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mistery_Spectre-2010-08-05T21:31:00.000Z-Dedmaan-2010-08-05T20:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry, I too do not know much English, to freely express their thoughts. User waged war three times since the participants and regularly violated WP: NPA [6], once evenopenly trying to provoke me. I periodically rected here, and noticed that there edits party almost the same. For example in the article Jazz Fusion he regularly returned to his vision of the genre, despite the fact that other participants regularly return the old version. And as you can see above, he called my edits vandalism and insults without any argument. As well as a semi-outdoor style of communication in this replica [7]. Maybe I overdid things in vocabulary, but the user has deleting my text as "remove spam", so I returned it a few times. Replicas its course, I'm certainly not going to restore my edits, but still difficult to perceive when the user has 2 block for the outrages, continuing the same in other wiki. Then I try to use English, I apologize Mistery Spectre (talk) 21:31, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T21:31:00.000Z","author":"Mistery Spectre","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Mistery_Spectre-2010-08-05T21:31:00.000Z-Dedmaan-2010-08-05T20:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-05T22:03:00.000Z-Mistery_Spectre-2010-08-05T21:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks Spectre. What shall I say. First of all, if all of you at least try do to your business here in English, that will make it a lot easier. Spectre, I saw you posted some message(s) again and again and I can't judge what it is--if Dedmaan calls it spam, then he must not like it and he has a right to remove it. If you post it in English, and he is wrong and you are right, other editors will come to your defense. Dedmaan, I saw a couple of your edits--those changes to musical genres, if they are not verified by reference to reliable sources, they are often frowned upon and it is best to take that up on the talk page first.

So. Can we agree to English as much as possible and, more importantly, a. not call each other names too quickly and b. use the article talk pages? I'm serious--genre warring is one of the most irritating things on Wikipedia, and only good conversation and looking for consensus stands between us and a schoolyard brawl. Have a shot of vodka, drink it in peace, and let's get on with the project. Thanks to both of you for responding here. Drmies (talk) 22:03, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T22:03:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-05T22:03:00.000Z-Mistery_Spectre-2010-08-05T21:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks that addressed the issue. I'm bad speak English, so I was afraid to make some serious errors. Mistery Spectre (talk) 22:23, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T22:23:00.000Z","author":"Mistery Spectre","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mistery_Spectre-2010-08-05T22:23:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-05T19:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-05T23:01:00.000Z-Mistery_Spectre-2010-08-05T22:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Don't worry Spectre--you should see my Russian. Drmies (talk) 23:01, 5 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-05T23:01:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-05T23:01:00.000Z-Mistery_Spectre-2010-08-05T22:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On August 6, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Hochland (magazine), which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:05, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

On August 6, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Carl Muth, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

On August 6, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Theodor Schieffer, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

On August 6, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Heinrich Lützeler, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

On August 6, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Peter Wust, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:06, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Congratulations on the quintuple DYK (plus an additional single in the same set)! The MBE committee is even more impressed than it was before. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 00:33, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T00:33:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-08-07T00:33:00.000Z-DYK_for_Peter_Wust","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-07T00:43:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-07T00:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was kind of impressed myself--and my wife even pretended to think something of it. So I'm almost there, though I am still not sure if I will ever really deserve that MBE. Ha, I'm getting old here (though not as old as you!): I noticed I'm getting close to 50,000 edits. And do any of them really matter? Drmies (talk) 00:43, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T00:43:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-07T00:43:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-07T00:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On August 6, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Julie von Massow, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 00:07, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

Hello sir, It took me forever how to figure out how to contact you. I'm not very good with wiki.

The reason I am contacting you today is to ask you for your help with my wiki page. From viewing your past edits I feel you have an excellent grasp on what you are doing here.

I noticed someone posted my facebook and twitter pages on wiki the other day and I'm happy they were removed, however I tried to add some articles containing me last night over my iphone and forgot to log in and it appears you removed them as well as some biographic information from my page.

To make a long story short, listeners of my shows created my wiki page and there were some major issues so one of the wiki people who knew what they were doing better than I ever will fixed my page and it has stayed virtually unchanged for many months until last night. I would like to get things back to where they were yesterday. Can you help me doing this.

I realize you were only doing what you felt was best but please sir help me out. Obi Wan Kanobi, you're my only hope.

Thank you for your time, I honestly mean that.

Thamike (talk) 12:01, 6 August 2010 (UTC)Mike Pilot (ThaMike)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-06T12:01:00.000Z","author":"Thamike","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Thamike-2010-08-06T12:01:00.000Z-Mike_Pilot","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-06T17:32:00.000Z-Thamike-2010-08-06T12:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Hello Thamike, thanks for your note. If the version you mean, the one you're OK with, is this one, then I'm sorry--that simply cannot stand. There are way too many unencyclopedic things in there (that is trivial stuff, like loving tattoos, having been the "man of honor," and having a hearing-impaired intern, which simply shouldn't be in an encyclopedic article), and way too many unreferenced stuff. One of the core policies for the project is described in Wikipedia:Verifiability, and there isn't actually anything at all in the article that is verified by reference to reliable sources--look at basic facts, such as 3 million downloads, stated without any evidence at all. It may be that you or your fans are happy with that, but Wikipedia cannot be, especially not given the stringent requirements for biographies of living persons.

  The current version already has plenty of problems--the complete absence of reliable sources, for starters. Google News usually offers reliable sources, but this search, for "Mike Pilot" and "Awful Show," produces nothing. Same with "mediocre show". Even Google searches on the web produce very little: [8] and [9] and [10]. In fact, I am placing a notability tag on the article, since I have doubts that the subject meets WP:N--that's harsh, perhaps, but according to our guidelines. So I'm sorry, I don't think I'm the one to help you here: if this were a candidate for deletion (I won't nominate it), I would not vote to keep it. Sorry, Drmies (talk) 17:32, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-06T17:32:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-06T17:32:00.000Z-Thamike-2010-08-06T12:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Can you expand this article to me? I'm experiencing problems with my Internet connection. --Cannibaloki 18:26, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-06T18:26:00.000Z","author":"Cannibaloki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Cannibaloki-2010-08-06T18:26:00.000Z-Portal_(Australian_band)","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-06T18:30:00.000Z-Cannibaloki-2010-08-06T18:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Canniba"}}-->

• Hey Loki--I don't think I can do much expanding there. They sound like a fun band--but in those kinds of articles (unless I really know the topic), I'm usually a better chopper than a builder... Where's Blackmetalbaz when you need him? And how is the weather down there--is it really winter? That reminds me, I had the opportunity to get a little Brazilian the other day, in "Are You Going With Me?" (probably not your kind of music, haha). Hey, let me know when you run for admin. I want to vote for you. Drmies (talk) 18:30, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-06T18:30:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-06T18:30:00.000Z-Cannibaloki-2010-08-06T18:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Cannibaloki-2010-08-07T14:20:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-06T18:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Of course it has... not funny, but bizarre; yes, it's winter.--Cannibaloki 14:20, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T14:20:00.000Z","author":"Cannibaloki","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Cannibaloki-2010-08-07T14:20:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-06T18:30:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Canniba"}}-->

You might want to check out the talk page, and the MySpace page, if you're so inclined. 69.181.249.92 (talk) 23:34, 6 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-06T23:34:00.000Z","author":"69.181.249.92","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-69.181.249.92-2010-08-06T23:34:00.000Z-Kilgore_(Smudge)","replies":[]}}-->

On August 7, 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Adlet, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

— Rlevse • Talk • 06:02, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T06:02:00.000Z","author":"Rlevse","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rlevse-2010-08-07T06:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Adlet","replies":[]}}-->

Greenland eh? Great work amigo! Dr. Blofeld 10:11, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T10:11:00.000Z","author":"Dr. Blofeld","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dr._Blofeld-2010-08-07T10:11:00.000Z-DYK_for_Adlet","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-07T15:39:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2010-08-07T10:11:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Dr."}}-->

• Thanks! And this was a great topic. Take it easy Ernst! Drmies (talk) 15:39, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T15:39:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-07T15:39:00.000Z-Dr._Blofeld-2010-08-07T10:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Are you the same individual who made comments on the teennick.com message board that said they were going to vandalize the Degrassi entry? If so that is not appropriate and use the page chat to discuss the matter further. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jrfoldes (talk • contribs) 19:55, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T19:55:00.000Z","author":"Jrfoldes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T19:55:00.000Z-Necrophilia_in_Popular_Culture","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-07T20:54:00.000Z-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T19:55:00.000Z","c-Drmies-2010-08-07T20:59:00.000Z-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T19:55:00.000Z","c-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T21:23:00.000Z-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T19:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I have no idea what you're talking about, so I guess the answer is no. Drmies (talk) 20:54, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-07T20:54:00.000Z-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T19:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
• I did note that you took the opportunity to re-add a bunch of unverified trivialities (and some pure nonsense) to the article. A wrestler accusing another wrestler of raping a corpse, there's not much encyclopedic about that. You also managed to remove a perfectly well-sourced case, that of John Duncan, for which I found a reference in a book (those usually count as reliable sources. While you're at it, try to explain, if you can, how accidentally killing the woman you're having sex with is an act of necrophilia. You can't. So please refrain from adding those trivialities and incorrect details to this and other articles. Drmies (talk) 20:59, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T20:59:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-07T20:59:00.000Z-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T19:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dude I'm going to be honest I have no idea what you're talking about. I've only touched the Degrassi entry. If I somehow deleted them while updating the entry (which I doubt) then I apologize, and have no desire to trample another person's work (unless there is poor spelling and grammar). As I mentioned when I originally asked someone had threatened to vandalize the entry. They have gone on to say they took a few things down and the topic is blasphemous and they don't like seeing their "loves" tarnished in this light. The person is obviously a teeny bopper. This could also explain how the "Charlie St. Cloud" entry was removed -- although I personally don't see that entry as belonging in this topic, but it is not for me to judge. Have you been able to make your fixes? Jrfoldes (talk) 21:23, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Jrfoldes","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T21:23:00.000Z-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T19:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-07T21:25:00.000Z-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T21:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

All the things that I just described and more, you did in this edit. Drmies (talk) 21:25, 7 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-07T21:25:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-07T21:25:00.000Z-Jrfoldes-2010-08-07T21:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

You are one of the few users still active who helped to cleanup this article. The good debate about what should be mentioned in the article has started up again and was wondering if you would like to comment. Ridernyc (talk) 14:18, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-08T14:18:00.000Z","author":"Ridernyc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T14:18:00.000Z-Concept_Album","replies":["c-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T16:31:00.000Z-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T14:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Take a look at the conversation here where a 3rd party is needed to establish consensus, otherwise it will just be an edit war. I'll refrain from comment and let you read it over. Ridernyc (talk) 16:31, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-08T16:31:00.000Z","author":"Ridernyc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T16:31:00.000Z-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T14:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-08T20:09:00.000Z-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T16:31:00.000Z","c-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T21:10:00.000Z-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T16:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, I did. You two are really not so far apart, I think, but I left a note on what I think the article needs more than a discussion on Bowie or Manson or whoever. Drmies (talk) 20:09, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-08T20:09:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-08T20:09:00.000Z-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T16:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I agree, we were actually agreeing. he just kept going of the deep end and was getting more and more pointy so I figured I would ask for help since we were both getting heated. I think he thought I had removed his Manson paragraph because once I pointed that it was still there he calmed down. Thanks. Ridernyc (talk) 21:10, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-08T21:10:00.000Z","author":"Ridernyc","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T21:10:00.000Z-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T16:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Different issue but have you noticed this [11]. I can swear that guy has been doing that for years, I recognize the name. Ridernyc (talk) 21:13, 8 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-08T21:13:00.000Z","author":"Ridernyc","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ridernyc-2010-08-08T21:13:00.000Z-Concept_Album","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, Drmies,

As you can see, there is a bit of edit warring going on right now on Race_(classification_of_humans), so I'm glad to see you putting in properly sourced content with a mainstream scientific point of view. I look forward to seeing your further contributions to that and other articles. I'm much newer at editing than you are, so I'll try to learn from you as I occasionally edit controversial articles like that one. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 18:31, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-09T18:31:00.000Z","author":"WeijiBaikeBianji","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-09T18:31:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_recent_edits_to_Race_(classification_of_humans)","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-09T18:48:00.000Z-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-09T18:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Yes, I did notice that, haha, it was hard to avoid. I looked through the entire list of recent edits and the discussion and decided to stay on the sidelines, but I did want to remove that tag. I think I put four sources there, and while one may quibble over one or the other, I think the point is proven (in fact, for me the point was obvious already...): there is plenty of discussion, and many do not hold to the 19th century dogmas on race. Thanks for your kind words, and keep up the good work. Drmies (talk) 18:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-09T18:48:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-09T18:48:00.000Z-WeijiBaikeBianji-2010-08-09T18:31:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi there,

My article on Safwat Ghayur has been nominated by a one time editor for deletion, to settle scores with me for my earlier blocking of his vanity entries done by his sock puppets. I need your help in placing the AFD discussion on Pakistan related discussion's page. I have tried to add it over there to the list but something is wrong because the title of the article isn't appearing over there. Can you please look into it?

Many thanks, -- MARWAT  05:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-10T05:33:00.000Z","author":"Marwatt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Marwatt-2010-08-10T05:33:00.000Z-Placing_Discussion_on_Pakistan_Related_Dletion_Nominations","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-11T16:26:00.000Z-Marwatt-2010-08-10T05:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"MARWAT"}}-->

• It seems listed just fine now, thanks. Drmies (talk) 16:26, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-11T16:26:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-11T16:26:00.000Z-Marwatt-2010-08-10T05:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I don't mind that "truth" according to our NPOV policy lies entirely outside of Wikipedia. But I wish that editors could set their internal compasses to point towards it. I like the idea of truth as something one seeks, rather than an excuse for not having to justify one's own prejudices. Alas .... Slrubenstein | Talk 09:41, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-10T09:41:00.000Z","author":"Slrubenstein","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Slrubenstein-2010-08-10T09:41:00.000Z-Hawthorne","replies":[]}}-->

I thing you've got the wrong user here. If you have, simply remove the text from my Talk page - I don't need an explanation. Thanks Beeshoney (talk) 18:52, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-10T18:52:00.000Z","author":"Beeshoney","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Beeshoney-2010-08-10T18:52:00.000Z-Have_you_got_the_wrong_user?","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-10T18:54:00.000Z-Beeshoney-2010-08-10T18:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

• No, I put it in the wrong place--it was supposed to go down one section. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 18:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-10T18:54:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-10T18:54:00.000Z-Beeshoney-2010-08-10T18:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I thought so. I am also typing a response to Thomas at this very moment! Beeshoney (talk) 18:54, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-10T18:54:00.000Z","author":"Beeshoney","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Beeshoney-2010-08-10T18:54:00.000Z-Have_you_got_the_wrong_user?","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-10T18:56:00.000Z-Beeshoney-2010-08-10T18:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

• They're not of bad will, and I modified a level 3 to a level 2 warning, given the absence of that spam link. Then again, the recent article history is kind of a mess, and Thomas is, probably, a former IP editor. Drmies (talk) 18:56, 10 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-10T18:56:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-10T18:56:00.000Z-Beeshoney-2010-08-10T18:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sehr geehrter Drimes. Mein Englischkentnisse ist mangelhaft. Deshalb habe ich bei Atilla Engin diese Fehler gemacht. Ich bitte Sie mir zu helfen. Ich habe die Seite jetzt geaendert. Bitte prüfen Sie es nochmal. Wenn die Seite jetzt die Wikipedia bestimmungen entspricht, ich bitte Sie die Warnungen an der Seite zu entfernen. Atilla Engin ist ein türkischer Schlagzeuger, der in der Welt bekannt ist. Bevor ich zu diese Seite irgend etwas noch schreibe, werde ich sehr drauf achten, dass, es im rahmen der wikipedia bestimmungen geschrieben wird. Ich verspreche es. Mit herzlichen Grusse aus der TürkeiGemalmaz 18px ^ileti 09:22, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-11T09:22:00.000Z","author":"Gemalmaz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gemalmaz-2010-08-11T09:22:00.000Z-Atilla_Engin","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-11T16:22:00.000Z-Gemalmaz-2010-08-11T09:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Hey Gemalmaz, and welcome to Wikipedia. Don't worry about it. I restored the section that you had removed since it's fine now, it just needs sources (good ones--see WP:RS). If you add stuff and need a hand with copy editing or properly citing (see also WP:CITE), just drop me a line, OK? All the best, and thanks for your note, Drmies (talk) 16:22, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-11T16:22:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-11T16:22:00.000Z-Gemalmaz-2010-08-11T09:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Gemalmaz-2010-08-11T17:14:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-11T16:22:00.000Z","c-Gemalmaz-2010-08-12T20:50:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-11T16:22:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Hallo Drmies. Thank you so much :)--Gemalmaz 18px ^ileti 17:14, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-11T17:14:00.000Z","author":"Gemalmaz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gemalmaz-2010-08-11T17:14:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-11T16:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-11T18:16:00.000Z-Gemalmaz-2010-08-11T17:14:00.000Z"]}}-->
    • Sorry Gemalmaz, but my Turkish is awful, to put it mildly. Can you find anything useful here? Drmies (talk) 18:16, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-11T18:16:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-11T18:16:00.000Z-Gemalmaz-2010-08-11T17:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yes I findet: http://www.ballade.no/nmi.nsf/doc/art2003110711225321680018 Maybe ı can use this in Atilla's page. Thank you. You speak Turkish? Sie können wohl mehrere Sprachen, oder?--Gemalmaz 18px ^ileti 20:50, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T20:50:00.000Z","author":"Gemalmaz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Gemalmaz-2010-08-12T20:50:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-11T16:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T20:52:00.000Z-Gemalmaz-2010-08-12T20:50:00.000Z","c-Gemalmaz-2010-08-12T21:23:00.000Z-Gemalmaz-2010-08-12T20:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ha, the closest I ever came to "speaking" Turkish was with a very pretty girl on a plane to Los Angeles, many years ago. I don't know how useful that article is--it basically says that he taught Håkon Storm-Mathisen, but that is not a notable person (no article on Wikipedia...). Maybe you just have to write the book on your guy. All the best, Drmies (talk) 20:52, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T20:52:00.000Z-Gemalmaz-2010-08-12T20:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

--Gemalmaz 18px ^ileti 21:23, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Gemalmaz","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Gemalmaz-2010-08-12T21:23:00.000Z-Gemalmaz-2010-08-12T20:50:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

How're you? Am back after a break, I see that the 'pedia is still here, and so are the POV pushers et al. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 17:59, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-11T17:59:00.000Z","author":"SpacemanSpiff","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SpacemanSpiff-2010-08-11T17:59:00.000Z-Hey_doc","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-11T18:01:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2010-08-11T17:59:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Spaceman"}}-->

• Heeeeeey Spiff! Welcome back! I was just thinking about you the other day (also because the Malaysian flag was a featured article, and it reminded me of the Indian flag and how complicated those matters are). Haha, you looked through my talk history? I'm leaving that matter alone. Well, it's good to see you back! Drmies (talk) 18:01, 11 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-11T18:01:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-11T18:01:00.000Z-SpacemanSpiff-2010-08-11T17:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

¿Como es tu español? I just declined a speedy on Pilar Geijo, but most of the news sources are either in Spanish or French, and my skills in either aren't that great (especially Argentine Spanish), might you be able to expand it? cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 06:32, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T06:32:00.000Z","author":"SpacemanSpiff","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SpacemanSpiff-2010-08-13T06:32:00.000Z-Hey_doc","replies":[],"displayName":"Spaceman"}}-->

Yes, I'm an environmental economist at UW in Seattle, and I've asked my students to each pick a country and update information about carbon pricing in that country. Hope that's okay, and FYI I'm pretty new to Wikipedia so if there's a better way to do this I hope you'll accept my apologies and give me some guidance. Yorambauman (talk) 00:45, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T00:45:00.000Z","author":"Yorambauman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yorambauman-2010-08-12T00:45:00.000Z-Carbon_tax","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T02:07:00.000Z-Yorambauman-2010-08-12T00:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Responded on your talk page. Drmies (talk) 02:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T02:07:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T02:07:00.000Z-Yorambauman-2010-08-12T00:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Yorambauman-2010-08-12T13:25:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-12T02:07:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Will do, thanks for the advice and kind offer to help. This class was narrowly focused on environmental economics, but next quarter I'm co-teaching a big-picture Introduction to Environmental Studies class, and I'm thinking of replacing the student paper assignment with an annotated bibliography plus a small Wikipedia contribution to a page of their choosing (solar power, biodiversity, carbon taxes, etc). If you have any specific advice I'm all ears, and of course I'll also take a look at the School Projects page you recommended. Many thanks! Yorambauman (talk) 13:25, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T13:25:00.000Z","author":"Yorambauman","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Yorambauman-2010-08-12T13:25:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-12T02:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Any specific reason for deleting the Geo Tag that I had inserted for that one time editor who has nominated Safwat Ghayur? Is this against some sort of Policy? -- MARWAT  04:59, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T04:59:00.000Z","author":"Marwatt","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Marwatt-2010-08-12T04:59:00.000Z-Removal_of_Geo_Tag","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T05:03:00.000Z-Marwatt-2010-08-12T04:59:00.000Z"],"displayName":"MARWAT"}}-->

• I don't know if it is; I certainly think so. See WP:OUTING. See also the note I just placed on WP:ANI. Between you and me: why on earth would you do that? And don't you think all this personal stuff makes the two of you look really...well, not serious? Sorry, but I don't get that. Drmies (talk) 05:03, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T05:03:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T05:03:00.000Z-Marwatt-2010-08-12T04:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

My intention was to restore material that had been deleted - and not to delete material!

I went over the edit dif you provided and saw some material I accidentally deleted, and I have just restored that to the article.

If however I have missed any other content you added that I deleted please know that it was an accident. Could you restore any additional material you had added that i mistakenly removed? I think I covered it, but you can recognize most easily what I may have missed. Sorry about this. Slrubenstein | Talk 10:12, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T10:12:00.000Z","author":"Slrubenstein","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Slrubenstein-2010-08-12T10:12:00.000Z-race","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:28:00.000Z-Slrubenstein-2010-08-12T10:12:00.000Z"]}}-->

• No worries, Sl. I appreciate the quick turn-around. All the best, Drmies (talk) 15:28, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:28:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:28:00.000Z-Slrubenstein-2010-08-12T10:12:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I am extremely grateful and thakful for your too prompt action to make the personal info related posts, posted by Marwatt, outlined by approaching the administrators.

I would be appreciated, if I could know atleast that what Marwatt have posted as mentioning it my info? I have registered a complaint against him at Federal Investigation Agency, today. You could read the information on his talk page. Just wanted to know that what he wrote that was outlined?

Once again, thank you. --TurnWorst (talk) 12:59, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T12:59:00.000Z","author":"TurnWorst","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TurnWorst-2010-08-12T12:59:00.000Z-Thanks_a_lot","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:27:00.000Z-TurnWorst-2010-08-12T12:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

• • The content has been deleted, so even if I wanted to I couldn't get it. The less I know of any about this, the better, frankly. Marwatt, you should know that such outing attempts are not only frowned upon, they are not in accordance with our guidelines. I am happy to help you 'save' the article, but this pile of verbiage and accusations you heaped on the AfD discussion is just not helpful. If the two of you have some kind of personal dispute, I'd appreciate it if you could keep that off-wiki, and certainly off my talk page. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:27, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:27:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:27:00.000Z-TurnWorst-2010-08-12T12:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Seeing as the original publication is long out of copyright, we really do not need to use a modern copyrighted cover in the article's infobox. J Milburn (talk) 15:04, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:04:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2010-08-12T15:04:00.000Z-File:Confidence-Man.jpg","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:19:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2010-08-12T15:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

• J, the best cover I could find is here--the original edition. Everything else I've seen are more recent editions. Any advice? Drmies (talk) 15:19, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:19:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:19:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2010-08-12T15:04:00.000Z","replies":["c-J_Milburn-2010-08-12T15:29:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:19:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • I'd recommend uploading the original one- not only is it free, but I'd argue that it's more encyclopedic (and I believe we have a guideline on it somewhere... The template documentation notes "prefer 1st edition - where permitted"). It's not as nice to look at, but that's certainly not a reason to use non-free content. I've seen a lot of other articles on older works which do the same thing. J Milburn (talk) 15:29, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:29:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2010-08-12T15:29:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:19:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you for uploading File:Petecover.jpg. However, there is a concern that the rationale provided for using this file on Wikipedia may not meet the criteria required by Wikipedia:Non-free content. This can be corrected by going to the file description page and adding or clarifying the reason why the file qualifies under this policy. Adding and completing one of the templates available from Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your file is in compliance with Wikipedia policy. Please be aware that a non-free use rationale is not the same as an image copyright tag; descriptions for files used under the non-free content policy require both a copyright tag and a non-free use rationale.

If it is determined that the file does not qualify under the non-free content policy, it might be deleted by an administrator within a few days in accordance with our criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions, please ask them at the media copyright questions page. Thank you. J Milburn (talk) 15:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:07:00.000Z","author":"J Milburn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-J_Milburn-2010-08-12T15:07:00.000Z-Disputed_non-free_use_rationale_for_File:Petecover.jpg","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:22:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2010-08-12T15:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I've left a remark at File talk:Petecover.jpg. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 15:22, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:22:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:22:00.000Z-J_Milburn-2010-08-12T15:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, long time no speak. Just did a comprehensive re-write on the above article. If you could spare a minute to glance over it and correct anything horrific, I'd appreciate it :-) Blackmetalbaz (talk) 15:48, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:48:00.000Z","author":"Blackmetalbaz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Blackmetalbaz-2010-08-12T15:48:00.000Z-Aborym","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:49:00.000Z-Blackmetalbaz-2010-08-12T15:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

• What am I, your c/e bitch? Drmies (talk) 15:49, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:49:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:49:00.000Z-Blackmetalbaz-2010-08-12T15:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:58:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:49:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • Hey, nice work. I had little to do. I left your "whilst"--if you want to sound like you went to some fancy public school, so be it! Later, Drmies (talk) 15:58, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T15:58:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:58:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Blackmetalbaz-2010-08-12T18:05:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:58:00.000Z"]}}-->
    • How do you know I didn't ;-)? Blackmetalbaz (talk) 18:05, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T18:05:00.000Z","author":"Blackmetalbaz","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Blackmetalbaz-2010-08-12T18:05:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-12T15:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-12T18:14:00.000Z-Blackmetalbaz-2010-08-12T18:05:00.000Z"]}}-->
      • Ha, you're a metalhead! No Class! Drmies (talk) 18:14, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T18:14:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-12T18:14:00.000Z-Blackmetalbaz-2010-08-12T18:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Sure and it's my pleasure - always happy to help out. Excellent translation work; wish I could help, but my German is practically nonexistent.

Keep up the good work! --Ser Amantio di Nicolao^{Che dicono a Signa?}_{Lo dicono a Signa.} 18:25, 12 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-12T18:25:00.000Z","author":"Ser Amantio di Nicolao","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ser_Amantio_di_Nicolao-2010-08-12T18:25:00.000Z-Joseph_Weyland_(bishop)","replies":[]}}-->

Comment - You see if I was biased then I would have requested each one of those persons to vote specifically in favor of KEEP, however, if you will go through my message, I only asked them to comment on this specific nomination. In addition, why did I chose to write to these select few, is obvious that they are some of the individuals who work on Pashtun related topics frequently and are most probably well aware of the subject. I didn't want this nomination to get hanged as most of the genuine editors aren't aware of the subject so I was the one who listed this nomination on Pakistan related topics and I wanted the genuine editors to comment either way on this nomination. So with much respect I need to tell you that it had no bias included in it when I asked some of those gentlemen (whom by the way I have never communicated with earlier on). -- MARWAT  00:23, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Marwatt","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Marwatt-2010-08-13T00:23:00.000Z-Canvassing","replies":["c-Marwatt-2010-08-13T01:11:00.000Z-Marwatt-2010-08-13T00:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"MARWAT"}}-->

On a second note I do stand corrected. I may have mildly asked the first 4 of the 7 editors to vote in favor but honestly that wasn't my intention and even if this happened then it was out of sheer frustration of repeated harassment by this one time editor. You may see that the last 3 of those seven genuine editors were only asked to vote. But your point is well taken and thanks. -- MARWAT  01:11, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T01:11:00.000Z","author":"Marwatt","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Marwatt-2010-08-13T01:11:00.000Z-Marwatt-2010-08-13T00:23:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"MARWAT"}}-->

I encountered another of your creations while I was patrolling DYK. It was interesting to learn where Escher got his inspiration. But, it says that he "spent time in Ravello in the 1920". Should that be "in 1920", or "in the 1920s"? MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 05:58, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T05:58:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-08-13T05:58:00.000Z-San_Giovanni_del_Toro","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-13T12:40:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-13T05:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Mandarax, don't put my typos out here for everyone to see! Haha, thanks. Drmies (talk) 12:40, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T12:40:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-13T12:40:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-13T05:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-08-13T18:17:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-13T12:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry. I tried to do it myself, but one likely source was a book and the other was in Italian. I thought it was most probably "the 1920s", but "most probably" isn't good enough. As for Patel, I'm surprised the name is so common in London, but even more surprised about how common it is in the U.S. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:17, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T18:17:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-08-13T18:17:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-13T12:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-15T13:39:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-13T18:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hey, it might be that this one is no. 100. And then I can stop--I will have finally met one of the requirements for the MBE ("deserve" is something else). The semester is starting anyway... Drmies (talk) 13:39, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-15T13:39:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-15T13:39:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-13T18:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mandarax-2010-08-15T20:03:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-15T13:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Precongratulations on your upcoming 100. As for "I can stop"... can you? I think not. However, please do stop implying that you don't "deserve" the MBE. MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 20:03, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-15T20:03:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-08-15T20:03:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-15T13:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I think you must have the wrong IP. I never edited any article like that and I don't live with anyone else.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.41.129 (talk) 06:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T06:39:00.000Z","author":"76.64.41.129","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-76.64.41.129-2010-08-13T06:39:00.000Z-Re:_Edit_of_'Vampires_Suck'","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-13T12:39:00.000Z-76.64.41.129-2010-08-13T06:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Please click here. Thank you. Drmies (talk) 12:39, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T12:39:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-13T12:39:00.000Z-76.64.41.129-2010-08-13T06:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

		The Special Barnstar
		Thanks for your contributions to the (ridiculously long) AfD discussion, and also for your helpful tips. Beeshoney (talk) 17:01, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T17:01:00.000Z","author":"Beeshoney","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Beeshoney-2010-08-13T17:01:00.000Z-The_Special_Barnstar","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-13T17:05:00.000Z-Beeshoney-2010-08-13T17:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Thanks--that's really nice of you. But by now, you've spent more time on it than I have! Drmies (talk) 17:05, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T17:05:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-13T17:05:00.000Z-Beeshoney-2010-08-13T17:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yes, I'm aware of that, but you still started the discussion! Beeshoney (talk) 17:07, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T17:07:00.000Z","author":"Beeshoney","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Beeshoney-2010-08-13T17:07:00.000Z-The_Special_Barnstar","replies":[]}}-->

This diff[12] and the edit summary ("yuk!) mark you as a friend of civilization. DavidOaks (talk) 21:34, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T21:34:00.000Z","author":"DavidOaks","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-DavidOaks-2010-08-13T21:34:00.000Z-Thanks!","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-13T23:18:00.000Z-DavidOaks-2010-08-13T21:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I appreciate that. The one you point at was actually one of the worst ones. In general, I can say that these were some of the worst-written articles I've come across (look through my history, you'll see I'm not kidding). Drmies (talk) 23:18, 13 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-13T23:18:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-13T23:18:00.000Z-DavidOaks-2010-08-13T21:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello! Your submission of San Giovanni del Toro at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Radagast3 (talk) 06:28, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-14T06:28:00.000Z","author":"Radagast3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Radagast3-2010-08-14T06:28:00.000Z-DYK_nomination_of_San_Giovanni_del_Toro","replies":[],"displayName":"Radagast"}}-->

sorry i will do that in future - im just impatient

• Sure thing. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 19:57, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-14T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-14T19:57:00.000Z-Using_Preview","replies":[]}}-->

This has simply gotten ridiculous. I'm drafting a user conduct RfC at User:Yworo/draft. I've never done one of these before, have you? Could you collaborate on getting it properly filled out? Yworo (talk) 22:04, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-14T22:04:00.000Z","author":"Yworo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yworo-2010-08-14T22:04:00.000Z-Jason_Leopold","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-14T23:30:00.000Z-Yworo-2010-08-14T22:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Blah. That is one of the most disgusting resumes on Wikipedia. No, I have not gone that way before, ever. Holy moly, after looking at the history again, and that editor's talk page, I see what you're talking about. Maybe you should call on Off2RioRob--they've been around the block a couple of times. Good luck. Drmies (talk) 23:30, 14 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-14T23:30:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-14T23:30:00.000Z-Yworo-2010-08-14T22:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 15 August 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Are You Going With Me?, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

— Rlevse • Talk • 12:02, 15 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-15T12:02:00.000Z","author":"Rlevse","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rlevse-2010-08-15T12:02:00.000Z-DYK_for_Are_You_Going_With_Me?","replies":[]}}-->

And, in return, I hope you like eggs and b? Cheers! Wilhelmina Will (talk) 18:58, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-16T18:58:00.000Z","author":"Wilhelmina Will","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-16T18:58:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_coffee!","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-16T18:59:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-16T18:58:00.000Z","c-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-17T00:26:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-16T18:58:00.000Z","c-Ucucha-2010-08-24T10:20:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-16T18:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Oooooh yes. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 18:59, 16 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-16T18:59:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-16T18:59:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-16T18:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Reply: That's what the source in 2010 in paleontology said. Look under "Newly named dinosaurs". Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:26, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T00:26:00.000Z","author":"Wilhelmina Will","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-17T00:26:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-16T18:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-17T00:30:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-17T00:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

Also, at Zootaxa, a link to an online replica of the paper is provided: [13] That should be right. Wilhelmina Will (talk) 00:30, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T00:30:00.000Z","author":"Wilhelmina Will","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-17T00:30:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-17T00:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-17T02:07:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-17T00:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yes, I see--but even if McDonald, Barrett, and Chapman didn't simply invent that animal (out of a tooth!), then at least they were smoking something potent when they named it. You should know that people in "science" make stuff up all the time--I know of rat experts who invent entire species, genera, and capibara, not to mention their dissertations, out of supposed fragments of shards of supposed fossilized teeth. But hey, to each his own! All the best, and may your many ancestries always live in harmony. Drmies (talk) 02:07, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T02:07:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-17T02:07:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-17T00:30:00.000Z","replies":["c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-17T02:47:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-17T02:07:00.000Z"]}}-->

It's quite common in paleoanthropology to declare a new species based upon one single tooth (fragment). While there are reasons for this, there are, of course, problems, too. If a species is highly sexually dimorphic, and all you have is a one male's molar and one molar from a female... you might think those are examples of separate species. I once fancied a future for myself in paleoanthropology. I suppose this may be one of the reasons I didn't end up pursuing that path. LadyofShalott 02:47, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T02:47:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-17T02:47:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-17T02:07:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-17T02:50:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2010-08-17T02:47:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

Lady--what now? Teeth have genders? What next, they have sex? We'll end up in California, witnessing gay teeth getting married? This is going way too far, and I don't think the constitution allows for this. I'm glad, Lady, that you're into books. To all the young readers visiting this page, I say open up a book! Leave the dinosaur teeth alone! Drmies (talk) 02:50, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T02:50:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-17T02:50:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2010-08-17T02:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-17T03:07:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-17T02:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Books are good - they allow us either to learn how others have tried to classify bones into a coherent picture (and why they did it that way), or to escape to worlds that exist only in the minds of the author and those readers who choose to leave this one for a few hours. Incidentally, as an undergraduate in a physical anthropology class, I read a book I found fascinating. The author analysed various schemes that scientists had proposed for the evolution of humankind. The case she made was that all the schema fit the classic model of a hero tale, with Modern Man as the hero. Unfortunately, I have forgotten both the title and author name. I'm pretty sure it was a woman who wrote it, originally as a Harvard(?) doctoral dissertation. LadyofShalott 03:07, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T03:07:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-17T03:07:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-17T02:50:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

Drmies, what shady backdoor allegations are those? I never invented a capybara! Ucucha 10:20, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-24T10:20:00.000Z","author":"Ucucha","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ucucha-2010-08-24T10:20:00.000Z-Wilhelmina_Will-2010-08-16T18:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ucucha-2010-08-24T10:22:00.000Z-Ucucha-2010-08-24T10:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

A dentary is a lower jaw, by the way, not a tooth. Ucucha 10:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-24T10:22:00.000Z","author":"Ucucha","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ucucha-2010-08-24T10:22:00.000Z-Ucucha-2010-08-24T10:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-24T15:22:00.000Z-Ucucha-2010-08-24T10:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yeah, that was pointed out to me by someone in an edit summary. Pff. It's all the same--dead bone (and don't tell me that teeth aren't bone--that's semantics). I wish we could all live our lives based not on the fossilized past, but on the living tissue of poetry, on texts such as Gilgamesh. Hey, nice to hear from you, stateside, I assume. Drmies (talk) 15:22, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-24T15:22:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-24T15:22:00.000Z-Ucucha-2010-08-24T10:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ucucha-2010-08-24T15:36:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-24T15:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not quite yet; a few more days left. Gilgamesh, indeed, is great, but perhaps not as beautiful as Democricetodon. Ucucha 15:36, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-24T15:36:00.000Z","author":"Ucucha","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Ucucha-2010-08-24T15:36:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-24T15:22:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Drmies. Reading the opinions of sport journalists, football trainers/experts, professional players and many football fans - and also - studying the career of Ronald Koeman and comparing him with other players - You can conclude that: 1) Ronald Koeman had powerful and accurate shots - especially from free kicks, penalties and from a long distance. 2) Ronald Koeman had accurate passes. 3) Ronald Koeman had very good vision (great reading of the game). This three features made him DISTINCTIVE and famous. It was his "trademark". This is very important to inform readers about these facts. The great request to Wikipedia's editors is to place these three facts in Koeman's article. Thank You in advance. Best greetings. Daniel - the football analyst and the player. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.191.150.227 (talk) 00:54, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T00:54:00.000Z","author":"79.191.150.227","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-79.191.150.227-2010-08-17T00:54:00.000Z-The_article_of_Ronald_Koeman_-_improvement_-_verified_facts.","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-17T01:57:00.000Z-79.191.150.227-2010-08-17T00:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Yeah, but you can't write an encyclopedic article in the tone of your edits. It's simply not neutral enough. Wikipedia articles should not praise, they should only report praise if that's relevant. And I know what Koeman was famous for--I've been watching him all my life. Thanks. Drmies (talk) 01:57, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T01:57:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-17T01:57:00.000Z-79.191.150.227-2010-08-17T00:54:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Per your edit summaries at Hadith and Muslim — what I find odd is that Farrukh's writing style is similar to that of a relatively recent translation of the Qur'an that I've partially read. I'd guess that the bits you removed were Farrukh's own soapboxing, but in a style very heavily influenced by the Qur'an. Nyttend (talk) 20:32, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T20:32:00.000Z","author":"Nyttend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nyttend-2010-08-17T20:32:00.000Z-Farrukh38","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-18T02:38:00.000Z-Nyttend-2010-08-17T20:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Hmm interesting. That strikes me as fitting the profile. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 02:38, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-18T02:38:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-18T02:38:00.000Z-Nyttend-2010-08-17T20:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The sentence is awkward no matter how you want to put it. I would suggest revising. Fulgently (talk) 22:10, 17 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-17T22:10:00.000Z","author":"Fulgently","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fulgently-2010-08-17T22:10:00.000Z-Mockingbird","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-18T02:06:00.000Z-Fulgently-2010-08-17T22:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

• [After browsing around:] This sentence, "The adults of Maycomb are hesitant to talk about Boo and, for many years, few have seen him"? I don't see what's wrong with it, sorry. And I guess you were the IP who changed it first? There was a problem, but in a different place: it needed a comma between 'and' and 'for'. Drmies (talk) 02:06, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-18T02:06:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-18T02:06:00.000Z-Fulgently-2010-08-17T22:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I agree with the see also but not with the calls argublay being the most famous. These were the original prank calls made before the JerkyBoys or any non-comcerial calls. They inspired Moe on the Simpsons etc. Any Google search will tell you that. Also that has been in the article for 2 years until you decided it doesn't belong there because you never heard of these. I see no reason to change a well known FACT! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tube Bar Red (talk • contribs) 02:44, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-18T02:44:00.000Z","author":"Tube Bar Red","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tube_Bar_Red-2010-08-18T02:44:00.000Z-Tube_Bar","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-18T16:15:00.000Z-Tube_Bar_Red-2010-08-18T02:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

• If all you have to say is "look it up on Google," then it's original research, since you don't have a reliable source. I think you suffer from a serious case of ownership--are you peddling the tapes as well? Drmies (talk) 16:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-18T16:15:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-18T16:15:00.000Z-Tube_Bar_Red-2010-08-18T02:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Why don't you go and "fix" other articles instead of wasting time on this you twit! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tube Bar Red (talk • contribs) 04:58, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T04:58:00.000Z","author":"Tube Bar Red","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tube_Bar_Red-2010-08-19T04:58:00.000Z-Tube_Bar","replies":[]}}-->

What the hell does the word "argubably" have anything to do w/ ownership? I'm one of the biggest fans and have done far more contributions to the Tube Bar then you or anyone else! You're just a stupid little twit who wants to start a war w/ some article and subject that they don't even know about! Go edit other articles you don't like there are plenty on here instead of singling out the Tube Bar. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tube Bar Red (talk • contribs) 06:29, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T06:29:00.000Z","author":"Tube Bar Red","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tube_Bar_Red-2010-08-19T06:29:00.000Z-Tube_Bar","replies":[]}}-->

You recently put on the Wikipedia page I made: Nicholas Anthony Ascioti that I did not cite the bio. So I cited the source, and got the message again. I don't know what I am doing wrong.

Thanks, Anthony Guidetti (talk) 22:11, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-18T22:11:00.000Z","author":"Ynkno13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:11:00.000Z-I_have_cited_the_bio","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-18T22:32:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:11:00.000Z","c-Ynkno13-2010-08-19T01:40:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:11:00.000Z","c-Ynkno13-2010-08-19T14:58:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:11:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Anthony Guidetti"}}-->

• I answered on your talk page, and have explained it every single time in the edit summary (including just now) that I undid your removal of the PROD. Drmies (talk) 22:32, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-18T22:32:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-18T22:32:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:51:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-18T22:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • I apologize, I did not see the explanation. So unless if he had a professional biography done on him, then he can't have a bio? Anthony Guidetti (talk) 22:51, 18 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-18T22:51:00.000Z","author":"Ynkno13","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:51:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-18T22:32:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-19T00:50:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:51:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Anthony Guidetti"}}-->
    • That's OK. But no, "professional," no. But Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and those work by way of secondary sources--which must be reliable, that is, independent of the subject. I'll post a template on your talk page with a couple of links; the link for reliable sources is already on your talk page, and another good page to look at is Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, since that's what we're dealing with. If you want to save this article, look for those sources (which don't have to be online). Think of magazines and newspapers, professional and other reviews, etc. Try searching for your subject using Google, but then click on the "News" link on top of the page--many of those hits will have been published in reliable sources. Good luck, and drop me a line again if I can help. Drmies (talk) 00:50, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T00:50:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-19T00:50:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
• If you can, just delete the page. I have no access to any articles on him at this point. Thank you very much for helping me out.Anthony Guidetti (talk) 01:40, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T01:40:00.000Z","author":"Ynkno13","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ynkno13-2010-08-19T01:40:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-19T03:34:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-19T01:40:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Anthony Guidetti"}}-->
  • That's too bad. I can't actually delete anything, I can only propose it, like I did. What can be done is for an administrator (someone with powers beyond belief) to move the article to what is called your user space, so you can keep it and continue to work on it. When you find the stuff you need, add it, and then move it back to the main space. Occasionally administrators walk by here, and one of them might could do that; I'll also leave a note on the talk page. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 03:34, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T03:34:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-19T03:34:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-19T01:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
• I found some newspapers online. Anthony Guidetti (talk) 14:58, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T14:58:00.000Z","author":"Ynkno13","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ynkno13-2010-08-19T14:58:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-18T22:11:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-19T14:59:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-19T14:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Anthony Guidetti"}}-->
  • Excellent. Drmies (talk) 14:59, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T14:59:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-19T14:59:00.000Z-Ynkno13-2010-08-19T14:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please see the talk page of the article KeyBank Tower. I have reverted your most recent edit, and I have placed an explanation on the article's talk page of why the edit was reverted. If you have any further questions, please direct them to my talk page for discussion before re-editing the article. Thank you. Texas141 (talk) 15:04, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T15:04:00.000Z","author":"Texas141","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Texas141-2010-08-19T15:04:00.000Z-KeyBank_Tower","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-19T15:05:00.000Z-Texas141-2010-08-19T15:04:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Responded on article talk page. Thanks for your note. Drmies (talk) 15:05, 19 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-19T15:05:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-19T15:05:00.000Z-Texas141-2010-08-19T15:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

The Pork Shop (hopefully I can make that a blue link) just opened in New Glasgow. It was butterfly chops for dinner and will be peameal bacon for breakfast! The new addition is scheduled to arrive no later than Monday, it will be interesting to be sure. Enjoy your weekend Doc, provided things stick to schedule, I will be at the shore again this weekend, I love the Maritimes!--kelapstick (talk) 00:13, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-20T00:13:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-08-20T00:13:00.000Z-Great_news","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-20T02:19:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-08-20T00:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Peameal bacon...that sure sounds interesting. And a new addition, that's even better. Are you keeping your cool? You'll be in the bar, right? Hey all the best to you and to Mrs. Kelapstick. Remember, two is better than one, and who needs sleep anyway! Good luck my friend. Drmies (talk) 02:19, 20 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-20T02:19:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-20T02:19:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-08-20T00:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It is quite obvious you don't know anything about the subject, so I strongly disagree w/ being an editor in this case. I also see no matter what I say or do that you have more time on your hands then I do, so go ahead and do whatever you want with it. I helped create some of it and now I will no longer be involved.

Good luck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tube Bar Red (talk • contribs) 11:24, 21 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-21T11:24:00.000Z","author":"Tube Bar Red","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tube_Bar_Red-2010-08-21T11:24:00.000Z-Tube_Bar_Article_Changes_08\/21\/10","replies":[]}}-->

Hey, there. Do you remember who I am? If you don't, take a look at my userpage. Anyway, I'm not expecting you to take sides, but I was wondering if you could put in your two cents here. Thanks in advance. - Donald Duck (talk) 03:45, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-22T03:45:00.000Z","author":"Donald Duck","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T03:45:00.000Z-Hey.","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-22T07:34:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T03:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry, but I am not sure if you want me to. You acted incorrectly a number of times, including when you reported IP 69 for vandalism, and when you gave a vandalism warning to User:Tolgagurcan. If you want to get back in good graces with other editors, you should consider looking critically at some of your edits and warnings, and making amends for them. Saying "let bygones be bygones" is not useful if there is no acknowledgment of past mistakes. Sorry. Drmies (talk) 07:34, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-22T07:34:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-22T07:34:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T03:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T16:59:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-22T07:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

It looks like my warning to User:Tolgagurcan was appropriate now, actually. - Donald Duck (talk) 16:59, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-22T16:59:00.000Z","author":"Donald Duck","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T16:59:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-22T07:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-22T19:48:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T16:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Because they did something wrong after you accused them, incorrectly, of vandalism? It's precisely this sort of thing that irritates others--claiming, in the face of clear evidence to the contrary, that one did nothing wrong. Your talk page is living proof that your way of editing does not sit very well with a great many respected editors, including IP 69, Atama, and Uncle G. I mean, you incorrectly warn someone for vandalism, it's pointed out to you, and you say "This happened August 12th; there's no reason to bring it up now". That's nonsense. You said similar things at ANI--"it's a past mistake, no need to bring that up anymore." "Don't be so negative." No wonder your editing behavior was brought up at ANI; frankly, I'm somewhat surprised it wasn't done earlier. Drmies (talk) 19:48, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-22T19:48:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-22T19:48:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T16:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T22:12:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-22T19:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

So we go from being sort of being enemies (when I was known as Eugene Krabs) to sort of friends (when I was known as Zhang He) to being sort of enemies again? I don't get people. Also, not all of my edits are bad. You're just looking at August 2010 on my talk page, so the situation appears bad. - Donald Duck (talk) 22:12, 22 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-22T22:12:00.000Z","author":"Donald Duck","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Donald_Duck-2010-08-22T22:12:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-22T19:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

<--You wanted me to look at the ANI report. I did. It reveals that you are often careless and accuse people of vandalism when they are not vandalizing. And then, when people rightfully call you on it, you complain. Wikipedia is not a schoolyard. If you can't handle criticism (when you invite it) you should find other things to do. I can tell you that I'm not your enemy etc., but honestly, we're not in middle school anymore. All the best. Drmies (talk) 01:58, 23 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-23T01:58:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-23T01:58:00.000Z-Hey.","replies":[]}}-->

Hiya,

Just wanted to ask, when you welcomed on User talk:NADA-TR, did you use a script or tool or something, or just manually edit?

The reason I ask is...lots of people get 'welcomed' that way, and it causes a problem, because the welcome is not in a section; it gets the user off to a bad start with their talk page, because they will think you don't need == Headings ==. We have lots of help requests from users when they have such welcomes, and... well, it gets messy. We're therefore forever changing '''Welcome''' to == Welcome ==

I'm trying to find out if it is simply people subst'ing the welcome template that causes it, or if there is some utility that causes it...so, please let me know. Thanks,  Chzz  ►  20:01, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-24T20:01:00.000Z","author":"Chzz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chzz-2010-08-24T20:01:00.000Z-Welcomes_in_sections","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-24T20:02:00.000Z-Chzz-2010-08-24T20:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

• I just use "subst:welcome", that's it. Does that help? Thanks, Drmies (talk) 20:02, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-24T20:02:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-24T20:02:00.000Z-Chzz-2010-08-24T20:01:00.000Z","replies":["c-Chzz-2010-08-24T20:41:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-24T20:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

OK, yep, it does help, thanks.

I'm looking at some other examples, and...well, friendly does seem to add sections, as does Huggle [14] but WP:TWINKLE sometimes doesn't e.g. [15].

I will investigate further; but, for reference - it's best to use a section, when welcoming, if you don't mind. Some of the welcomes include one, and some don't, that's why it is confusing. So I suggest, if you don't mind, putting == Welcome == when you put {{subst:welcome}} in future.

Thanks a lot for getting back to me.  Chzz  ►  20:41, 24 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-24T20:41:00.000Z","author":"Chzz","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Chzz-2010-08-24T20:41:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-24T20:02:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I've replied.  Chzz  ►  02:32, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T02:32:00.000Z","author":"Chzz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chzz-2010-08-25T02:32:00.000Z-Welcomes_in_sections","replies":[]}}-->

Assume you saw this? ^Bongo_matic 04:57, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z","author":"Bongomatic","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bongomatic-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z-Sigh","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z-Bongomatic-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z","c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-26T02:27:00.000Z-Bongomatic-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Yup. Did you see this? And this would make CoM and his socks roll over in his grave. I had to clean that up for him, though I understand the sentiment, haha. Drmies (talk) 04:57, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z-Bongomatic-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kelapstick-2010-08-26T01:04:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z"]}}-->
  • ...-kelapstick (talk) 01:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T01:04:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-08-26T01:04:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-26T01:05:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-08-26T01:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
    • Indeed. Hey K, welcome back! Guess what, Turqoise is back too! Apparently he didn't like the COI tag I put on his resume. So, have you gotten sleep recently? Drmies (talk) 01:05, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T01:05:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-26T01:05:00.000Z-Kelapstick-2010-08-26T01:04:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Oh dear... LadyofShalott 02:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T02:27:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-26T02:27:00.000Z-Bongomatic-2010-08-25T04:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-26T02:31:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2010-08-26T02:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

Yes, my dear lady. But can we dwell on the positive--there's a new Kelapsticklet? Yippee! Drmies (talk) 02:31, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T02:31:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-26T02:31:00.000Z-LadyofShalott-2010-08-26T02:27:00.000Z","replies":["c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-26T02:45:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-26T02:31:00.000Z","c-Drmies-2010-08-26T05:20:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-26T02:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh really? Congratulations, K'stick!! LadyofShalott 02:45, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T02:45:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-26T02:45:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-26T02:31:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

Hot of the press: [16]. Drmies (talk) 05:20, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T05:20:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-26T05:20:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-26T02:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Kelapstick-2010-08-26T21:51:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-26T05:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you, everyone is home safe and sound, and getting on quite well. I slept fine last night, was home alone with the oldest, who slept till 9. kelapstick (talk) 21:51, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Kelapstick","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Kelapstick-2010-08-26T21:51:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-26T05:20:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Just wanted to let you know that I created the Missouri State University System page. Hopefully this well make the enrollment figure tiff a moot point. Take a look at the talk page for more information, it's bizarrely complex issue. Anyway as long as the Springfield campus enrollment goes on the MSU page and the system enrollment goes on the system page it should clear up this "opening day" nonsense. Thanks Grey Wanderer (talk) 16:08, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T16:08:00.000Z","author":"Grey Wanderer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grey_Wanderer-2010-08-25T16:08:00.000Z-Missouri_State_University_System","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-25T16:24:00.000Z-Grey_Wanderer-2010-08-25T16:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Thanks. Wow, just to keep things simple. What's with Slyder--did you use to date his/her girl/boyfriend? Drmies (talk) 16:24, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T16:24:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-25T16:24:00.000Z-Grey_Wanderer-2010-08-25T16:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 25 August 2010, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article San Giovanni del Toro, which you created or substantially expanded. You are welcome to check how many hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, quick check ) and add it to DYKSTATS if it got over 5,000. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

The DYK project (nominate) 18:03, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Please refrain from disruptive behavior, uncivility and discrimination. Knowing your brave heart ways, old friend, I fully expect you to delete this from your page. I am not trolling or being inappropriate, here is simply an argument. Your persistant and continuous return to one single article Kresimir Chris Kunej ever since its inception, after not one but two Afd's -following my hard work to improve the article in userspace and my complying with all Wiki rules- makes your activities disruptive to the project, and finds you in violation of WP:civil. I can do reverts of your tags all year, but I think it would be more productive to take this to some venue where mediation or dispute resolution takes place. So, please do requset this since I am not sure quite how to (do not wish to research this right now unless I have to). Thanks.Turqoise127 (talk) 18:29, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T18:29:00.000Z","author":"Turqoise127","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Turqoise127-2010-08-25T18:29:00.000Z-Please_stop_reverting_or_let_us_request_dispute_settlement","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-25T18:49:00.000Z-Turqoise127-2010-08-25T18:29:00.000Z","c-Drmies-2010-08-26T00:46:00.000Z-Turqoise127-2010-08-25T18:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Well, old friend, you should start with a vehement denial that it's you, and then continue with a brilliant explanation of how you know these intimate details about him, such as his place of work and what not--all the details that no verifiable source ever has been able to confirm. Oh, you should also explain how your accusation of my "discriminating" is factually correct, civil, and to the benefit of the project. Someone ought to slap an NPA template on your talk page.

  In your case, I don't give a carrot for WP:CIVIL, since anyone who is not you can see how you have persistently badgered, wikilawyered, and whined about most every editor involved in the two AfDs, and that the article, far from "complying with all Wiki rules," is a bunch of unverified stuff, a resume in the form of a Wiki article. "Oh no! They used my text in a seminar in Tubingen in 2007!" Bravo.

  Moreover, your concern for the "project" sounds a bit hollow: most of your 607 edits are to your own article, to the AfDs, to the wikilawyering in relation to your article--and there's a few to the AfD discussion for Boba Phat, of course. I think that you should be happy that you have your resume on Wikipedia, even if it is with a big fat COI tag. Happy days! Drmies (talk) 18:49, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T18:49:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-25T18:49:00.000Z-Turqoise127-2010-08-25T18:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-Turqoise127-2010-08-26T00:29:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-25T18:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Ok, let me address what you ask. I know the place of work because when you Google “Chris Kunej” in quotes there are 2 results on first two pages about his workplace- state of Utah. One of the sites actually provides the public with state employee salaries. You could maybe use a quick lesson in search engines.

Better yet, your comments have shown you neither actually read the article nor attempted to look for sources per WP:before (and you nominated deletion twice). This, unarguably indicates discrimination, in addition to your sarcastic comment quite some time ago somewhere in talk pages about “being notable in Pakistan” so they must be notable on US Wiki (you were making fun of me after the article was deleted the first time). Sorry I don’t have a diff, I can get it if needed. Also, I think the NPA template could go both ways here. I feel saddened you do not give a carrot about WP:civil with me, I don’t think it is ok to be selective with our guidelines… being civil only to editors you agree with? The article itself is well sourced and you can not deny this, so I don’t understand your “bunch of unverifiable stuff” comment.

Regarding your passing judgement on my contributions; that is not fair. I contribute best I can and have made some worthwhile edits and opinions, I believe.

I believe I answered your querry here directly.

It boils down to the fact that you do not like me, the article, the subject and who knows what else; you nominated deletion twice, you keep placing tags, you argue and argue, keep coming back to it even after months pass. You nominated 2nd AfD like 1 day out of userfy. This is stalking. Again, you are in violation of WP:civil, WP:hound, WP:beating a dead horse, WP:NPA, and are displaying disruptive behavior. Thanks and have a good day.Turqoise127 (talk) 00:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T00:29:00.000Z","author":"Turqoise127","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Turqoise127-2010-08-26T00:29:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-25T18:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Turquoise: blah blah blah. I don't think I've ever met another editor here who is so verbose as you are. Your time would be better spend publishing something on Croatian translation. I've read your resume more times than I care to remember. As for stalking, look up what it is. I'm allowed to keep an eye on an article, especially if that someone is a disruptive user trying to get his resume published, bludgeoning other editors in the process. Your COI tag, one edit, and one edit alone proves that you are that "kid"--this one. Only through searching the database there could one find out that this non-notable kid has a non-notable job working as, what, an assistant database helpdesk person.

  I have agreed in many ways with editors I have disagreed with, and I have remained civil with most of them. But people who wikilawyer to get their resume published, I got no respect for that. Especially if they remove COI tags without proving that they have no COI. You said before, "you know the kid"--that's reason enough. Besides, I have not forgotten how you speedied a couple of articles I produced: remember George Brown (scholar)? A real person, with real notability. Jealousy got the better of you there also, didn't it. You have yet to apologize for it, but I'm not holding my breath for it--you like playing the victim too much. Well, boo-hoo. Now stay away from my beautiful talk page; if you got something to say to me, bring me up on charges on any of the noticeboards, or send me a letter by carrier pigeon from Utah. Drmies (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T00:46:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-26T00:46:00.000Z-Turqoise127-2010-08-25T18:29:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

		The 100 DYK Creation and Expansion Medal
		Congratulations on this wonderful achievement! Thank you for your continuing contributions which have done so much to expand and improve Wikipedia. (And, personally, I was glad to see that number 100 was art, rather than bacon, related.) MANdARAX • XAЯAbИAM 18:36, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T18:36:00.000Z","author":"Mandarax","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mandarax-2010-08-25T18:36:00.000Z-The_100_DYK_Creation_and_Expansion_Medal","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-25T18:50:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-25T18:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Thanks Mandarax--and I agree. I am still somewhat baconed out. Mind you, I have moved on to even more important business: Donar Oak. Thanks again, and all the best! Drmies (talk) 18:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T18:50:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-25T18:50:00.000Z-Mandarax-2010-08-25T18:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-26T02:29:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-25T18:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Wow! LadyofShalott 02:29, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T02:29:00.000Z","author":"LadyofShalott","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-LadyofShalott-2010-08-26T02:29:00.000Z-Drmies-2010-08-25T18:50:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Lady"}}-->

I just wanted to let you know that I removed the section you added on my talk page. Looking at the history of the page, there is not a single edit from me there. - Donald Duck (talk) 16:44, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T16:44:00.000Z","author":"Donald Duck","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T16:44:00.000Z-Hello.","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-26T17:14:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T16:44:00.000Z","c-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T17:27:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T16:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Not so, Donald--you also reverted the addition of unencyclopedic stuff (correctly). Drmies (talk) 17:14, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T17:14:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-26T17:14:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T16:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Okay, then I'll undo my undo. At least that was a good revert there... - Donald Duck (talk) 17:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T17:27:00.000Z","author":"Donald Duck","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T17:27:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T16:44:00.000Z","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-26T18:48:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T17:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, it was excellent. And you don't have to undo anything if you don't want to, it was just a note. Did you see the discussion on WP:ANI? I thought it was useful and insightful. All the best, Drmies (talk) 18:48, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T18:48:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-26T18:48:00.000Z-Donald_Duck-2010-08-26T17:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(on Oklahoma) - didn't notice the double entry. AlexiusHoratius 22:15, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T22:15:00.000Z","author":"AlexiusHoratius","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AlexiusHoratius-2010-08-26T22:15:00.000Z-Nice_catch","replies":["c-Drmies-2010-08-26T22:16:00.000Z-AlexiusHoratius-2010-08-26T22:15:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Alexius"}}-->

• Neither did I! But great minds work alike. Thanks! Drmies (talk) 22:16, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T22:16:00.000Z","author":"Drmies","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Drmies-2010-08-26T22:16:00.000Z-AlexiusHoratius-2010-08-26T22:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

This may become ugly. Editor keeps re-adding content and is unresponsive on its talk page.  Davtra  ^(talk) 23:39, 26 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-26T23:39:00.000Z","author":"Davtra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Davtra-2010-08-26T23:39:00.000Z-Underdale_High_School","replies":[]}}-->

Heh - once Panyd threw out the promo chunks I was more willingly to edit a little. Best Hekerui (talk) 15:22, 27 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-27T15:22:00.000Z","author":"Hekerui","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hekerui-2010-08-27T15:22:00.000Z-Re:_Mark_Portmann","replies":[]}}-->