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There is a template that an AfD nominator typically places on the talk page of the article creator. I did not see one on talk page of the creator of this article. So I placed a notice there. It is not required, but it is suggested as a best practice and good faith. Lightburst (talk) 02:21, 26 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-26T02:21:00.000Z","author":"Lightburst","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lightburst-2019-11-26T02:21:00.000Z-Super-chicken_model","replies":["c-Citing-2019-11-26T03:58:00.000Z-Lightburst-2019-11-26T02:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for doing that, I got a bit confused by the deleted revisions in the article history.Citing (talk) 03:58, 26 November 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-11-26T03:58:00.000Z","author":"Citing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Citing-2019-11-26T03:58:00.000Z-Lightburst-2019-11-26T02:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello! Your submission of Barbara H. Bowman at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Espresso Addict (talk) 05:05, 15 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-15T05:05:00.000Z","author":"Espresso Addict","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Espresso_Addict-2020-03-15T05:05:00.000Z-Problems_with_DYK_for_Barbara_H._Bowman","replies":["c-Espresso_Addict-2020-03-15T05:21:00.000Z-Espresso_Addict-2020-03-15T05:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hello Citing -- it looks like this might be your first DYK? Thanks for starting the article on this interesting female scientist. What's most important for DYK is to explain exactly where the information you've recorded comes from, by using inline citations at the end of every sentence and every fact in the lead & infobox that isn't covered in the text. Also, you can't use Bowman's papers as a source for anything (other than that she published in that subject). You also need to rewrite the material using your own words. Hope this helps to clarify, feel free to ask me if you have any questions. Cheers, Espresso Addict (talk) 05:21, 15 March 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-15T05:21:00.000Z","author":"Espresso Addict","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Espresso_Addict-2020-03-15T05:21:00.000Z-Espresso_Addict-2020-03-15T05:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-BlueMoonset-2020-05-02T15:17:00.000Z-Espresso_Addict-2020-03-15T05:21:00.000Z"]}}-->

Citing, there has been a new review of the nomination. Please stop by to check; there have been some new issues raised, but nothing that you shouldn't be able to handle. Thanks! BlueMoonset (talk) 15:17, 2 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-02T15:17:00.000Z","author":"BlueMoonset","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-BlueMoonset-2020-05-02T15:17:00.000Z-Espresso_Addict-2020-03-15T05:21:00.000Z","replies":["c-BlueMoonset-2020-05-12T16:02:00.000Z-BlueMoonset-2020-05-02T15:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Follow-up: we need to hear from you on the nomination page as to what you've done to address the issues, and what's still left to do. It's been eleven days. Thank you very much. BlueMoonset (talk) 16:02, 12 May 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-12T16:02:00.000Z","author":"BlueMoonset","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-BlueMoonset-2020-05-12T16:02:00.000Z-BlueMoonset-2020-05-02T15:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On 19 May 2020, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Barbara H. Bowman, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that Barbara H. Bowman was one of the scientists who discovered the genetic difference responsible for variations in haptoglobin, a human blood protein? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Barbara H. Bowman. You are welcome to check how many page hits the article got while on the front page (here's how, Barbara H. Bowman), and it may be added to the statistics page if the total is over 5,000. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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(edit conflict)Citing, please note that your restoration here [[1]] is a violation of 1RR. The material you added to the lead was already added and removed several times. That means your add was a reversion of an earlier removal [[2]]. With the restoration of your earlier edit and with the notification above you have violated 1RR. I have no intention of reporting this but you should be aware of it. Springee (talk) 15:37, 1 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-01T15:37:00.000Z","author":"Springee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Springee-2020-09-01T15:37:00.000Z-Notices","replies":[]}}-->

This edit is a violation of the sanctions in force at the Bannon article, namely "You must not make more than one revert per 24 hours to this article and are subject to discretionary sanctions while editing this page." You need to self-revert that or you may be sanctioned. Mr Ernie (talk) 15:34, 1 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-01T15:34:00.000Z","author":"Mr Ernie","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T15:34:00.000Z-DS_Violation","replies":["c-Citing-2020-09-01T16:33:00.000Z-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T15:34:00.000Z","c-MrX-2020-09-01T18:08:00.000Z-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T15:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Come on now, I have two editors edit-conflicting to tell me I may be blocked for one revert that now counts as two? The various discussions wanted an uninvolved experienced editor to make a rational editorial decision, which I guess I ended up doing. I acted in good faith within the spirit of the rules and in an effort to build a better encyclopedia. I'm not touching the article further.Citing (talk) 16:33, 1 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-01T16:33:00.000Z","author":"Citing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Citing-2020-09-01T16:33:00.000Z-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T15:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Those are very different versions. I don't think AE would consider the first edit to be a reversion under the 1RR page editing restriction. - MrX 🖋 18:08, 1 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-01T18:08:00.000Z","author":"MrX","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MrX-2020-09-01T18:08:00.000Z-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T15:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T19:41:00.000Z-MrX-2020-09-01T18:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not an AE admin but re-inserting disputed material (not the exact wording that was removed but certainly the content) that goes against whole point of the ONUS thread at AN we had a few days ago, and then reverting to keep it in would be sanctionable. Citing - are you going to self-revert until someone closes the discussions? Mr Ernie (talk) 19:41, 1 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-01T19:41:00.000Z","author":"Mr Ernie","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T19:41:00.000Z-MrX-2020-09-01T18:08:00.000Z","replies":["c-Citing-2020-09-02T00:21:00.000Z-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T19:41:00.000Z","c-MrX-2020-09-02T00:37:00.000Z-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T19:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

I've only made one revert, have justified my edit on the article talk page, and I'm done with the article at this point. I also don't think it's productive or friendly for users to race for to my talk page to throw a bunch of jargon about sanctions at me with demands to self-revert for what should be a straightforward addition.Citing (talk) 00:21, 2 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-02T00:21:00.000Z","author":"Citing","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Citing-2020-09-02T00:21:00.000Z-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T19:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Mr. Ernie, it seems like your energies could be put to much better use if you helped edit the encyclopedia in the spirit of collaboration. As far as I can tell, your article edits over the past five weeks have consisted entirely of reverting other editor's contributions[3] and your talk page contributions have been pretty officious lately. I know I need to remind myself from time to time that this is not a battleground. - MrX 🖋 00:37, 2 September 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-09-02T00:37:00.000Z","author":"MrX","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MrX-2020-09-02T00:37:00.000Z-Mr_Ernie-2020-09-01T19:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Thanks for your unhelpful revision. I think if you put yourself in the position of someone from somewhere else in the world, probably the most important thing to know about the city is where it is situated relative to the largest city in that region of the country. Please try to be constructive in editing articles ratther than destructive. That's what improves Wikipedia.Tetsuo (talk) 17:45, 23 June 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-23T17:45:00.000Z","author":"Tetsuo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tetsuo-2021-06-23T17:45:00.000Z-Disambiguation_link_notification_for_January_16","replies":["c-Citing-2021-06-23T17:52:00.000Z-Tetsuo-2021-06-23T17:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Tetsuo: No need to be rude, I'm just following the manual of style and helping out, same as you. Also, isn't Charlotte the nearest major city?Citing (talk) 17:52, 23 June 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-23T17:52:00.000Z","author":"Citing","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Citing-2021-06-23T17:52:00.000Z-Tetsuo-2021-06-23T17:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tetsuo-2021-06-24T03:33:00.000Z-Citing-2021-06-23T17:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Citing: Sorry you took that as rude. It was intended to be sarcastic/ironic. I don't know about the manual of style, but I took a look at a few articles about smallish places, and they all included, in the introductory paragraphs, some geographical reference to a larger place: Huntsville, TX to Houston and Dallas; Schenectady, NY to Albany, "which is about 15 miles (24 km) southeast"; and Saint-Jérôme, Quebec, "located about 45 kilometres (28 mi) northwest of Montreal." I know the manual of style says that facts in the intro should be drawn from the rest of the article, but that is almost never the case in relative distances provided in the intros of geographical place articles. I did consider making the relative geographic reference for Morganton, NC, to other cities in North Carolina, but figured it would be most helpful to a person from California, Europe or Japan to provide a reference to Atlanta, which is in a "top 10" metropolitan statistical area in the USA. I perhaps should have just said that it was 4 hours by car and not mentioned Google Maps. The distance is a bit shorter as the crow flies, so I thought it would be best to specify that the distance was a road distance. I would respectfully suggest that in your future editing activities, you not be so quick to revert edits unless they are clearly wrong or violate copyright. It is almost always better to be constructive. If you don't like the style, feel free to improve it.Tetsuo (talk) 03:33, 24 June 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-24T03:33:00.000Z","author":"Tetsuo","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tetsuo-2021-06-24T03:33:00.000Z-Citing-2021-06-23T17:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-Citing-2021-06-24T04:14:00.000Z-Tetsuo-2021-06-24T03:33:00.000Z","c-Citing-2021-06-24T04:18:00.000Z-Tetsuo-2021-06-24T03:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Tetsuo: I felt the information was arbitrary and oddly worded so I thought I was being constructive and improving it, though clearly we disagree. You can re-add or re-word what I've removed, it's not that serious.Citing (talk) 04:14, 24 June 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-24T04:14:00.000Z","author":"Citing","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Citing-2021-06-24T04:14:00.000Z-Tetsuo-2021-06-24T03:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

How about this?Citing (talk) 04:18, 24 June 2021 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-24T04:18:00.000Z","author":"Citing","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Citing-2021-06-24T04:18:00.000Z-Tetsuo-2021-06-24T03:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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On 9 August 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article African Society of Human Genetics, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that the African Society of Human Genetics was established so that more human genetics and genomics research could be done by African scientists in Africa? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/African Society of Human Genetics. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, African Society of Human Genetics), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (i.e., 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

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