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G'day! This is Andrew Alder's user talk page, you knew that. Welcome!

If you'd like to see what I'm doing, this is how I sometimes keep track of that and WP:RME is where I most often contribute

If I left you a message on your talk page, please respond there, I am watching your talk page. That's of course unless the message at your talk page was a mere heads-up as to progress on a discussion here or on another talk page, in which case probably best to continue the discussion where it is.

I prefer to discuss issues regarding any particular article, policy etc. at its talk page, so if I'm already involved in a discussion there's no need to fork the discussion to here, and if not then a simple heads-up here with a link to the relevant talk page and section is best. Be aware of the canvassing guidelines, but if you're just asking me for advice rather than a whole list of people there should be no problem there.

Please don't censor my talk page. Just because you don't support what someone else is saying is no reason to remove it. Is it now? (You wouldn't think I had to say that, but I have learned otherwise.)

On the other hand, if the edits you are removing are by banned users (or their socks), then please feel free to do it. That's not censorship, it's administrative drudgery, and I thank you for taking it on. But if there's doubt as to who the contributor really is, or if the proposed ban is not yet in force, or both, better to leave me to clean up my own page. (And again I would have thought that was obvious to all, but have learned otherwise.) A non-abusive heads-up on the other antics of the contributor, in reply to what they have said or done here, is always appreciated. TIA!

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Regarding your close at Talk:Shiv Sena#Requested move 11 November 2024

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The discussion was on whether the subject of the article is the primary topic for the name "Shiv Sena" however none of the participants have provided any evidence as to the effect. If you consider the pageviews then neither topic is primary. Thus I request you to reverse the move and reopen the discussion. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 10:27, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241127102700","author":"Arnav Bhate","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Arnav_Bhate-20241127102700-Regarding_your_close_at_Talk:Shiv_Sena#Requested_move_11_November_2024","replies":["c-Andrewa-20241128044600-Arnav_Bhate-20241127102700"]}}-->

Thanks for discussing this here, Arnav Bhate. That's the process we need to follow, and we can't usefully sidestep it.

But the PT discussion to which you refer was not the basis for the close. You are providing additional arguments. Whether or not they are relevant to the name, they are not now relevant to the close.

The history of the articles involved is already complicated enough without making it more so as you propose here.

I certainly agree that the results to date are not good.

I suggest yet another discussion, but this time as an informal discussion listing all of the topics (including both Shiv Sena (disambiguation) and a possible set index article) that might go by the title of Shiv Sena, and trying to reach a consensus as to (1) what articles we should have (that needs to be agreed first) and (2) the title each should have.

Where political party names are concerned, this sort of controversy is neither rare nor easily resolved. Andrewa (talk) 04:46, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241128044600","author":"Andrewa","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Andrewa-20241128044600-Arnav_Bhate-20241127102700","replies":["c-Arnav_Bhate-20241128070000-Andrewa-20241128044600"]}}-->

I have opened a proposal to merge Shiv Sena (2022–present) into Shiv Sena, if that succeeds then there is no argument about the primary topic, which would be the resulting article from the merge. If it fails, then a move proposal back to Shiv Sena (1966–2022) would be enough to decide the question, I think. Arnav Bhate (talk • contribs) 07:00, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241128070000","author":"Arnav Bhate","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Arnav_Bhate-20241128070000-Andrewa-20241128044600","replies":[]}}-->

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"You lose" listed at Redirects for discussion

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nomination

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I have nominated History of Christianity - again - please take a look and criticize at will. Here: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/History of Christianity/archive2 Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:48, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241217234800","author":"Jenhawk777","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jenhawk777-20241217234800-nomination","replies":[]}}-->