User talk:0xDeadbeef/Archive 5

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Tech News: 2024-30

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Tech News: 2024-31

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Wikipedia:Database reports/Empty categories

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Hello, 0xDeadbeef,

HaleBot used to issue this report daily at 01:00 UTC but now it is issued at all hours of the day and what, for me, is early, early morning. Is there any way to get it back on its old schedule? I typically use the link to the new Empty Categories listing but with this time lag that is currently going on, I thought I'd check the old report and noticed that is is coming out at random times of the day and night.

Hope all is well with you this summer. Liz Read! Talk! 02:59, 4 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240804025900","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liz-20240804025900-Wikipedia:Database_reports\/Empty_categories","replies":[]}}-->

I also posted this message at Legoktm's User talk page.
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Hi!

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Just to let you know when in dark mode your signature is read difficult to read, and specifically comments highlighted as part of notifications become illegible. If you'd be willing to consider a lighter colour scheme for accessibility that'd be great. CNC (talk) 13:03, 8 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240808130300","author":"CommunityNotesContributor","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CommunityNotesContributor-20240808130300-Hi!","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240808131100-CommunityNotesContributor-20240808130300"],"displayName":"CNC"}}-->

Hello! Thanks for the nudge. This should be fixed now :D 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 13:11, 8 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240808131100","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240808131100-CommunityNotesContributor-20240808130300","replies":["c-CommunityNotesContributor-20240808133700-0xDeadbeef-20240808131100"],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
Looks great, thanks. Also gives you the inverted appearance you were looking for :) CNC (talk) 13:37, 8 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240808133700","author":"CommunityNotesContributor","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-CommunityNotesContributor-20240808133700-0xDeadbeef-20240808131100","replies":[],"displayName":"CNC"}}-->
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Guptalab SPI

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Hi, Following the recent Guptalab SPI, I've nominated the effected article for speedy deletion (on the basis that it was created by a user who was evading a block). This has now been contested by an account which opened a couple of hours ago and which I'd suggest is obviously another sockpuppet. Is there anything that can be done to prevent the subject from continually creating new accounts and preventing the deletion? Last time (2017) he created several to try to influence the AfD, albeit unsuccessfully. Would, for example, page protection be the way to go? I'm not sure that I see how that would prevent it, do you have any other ideas? Best wishes, Axad12 (talk) 17:26, 20 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240820172600","author":"Axad12","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Axad12-20240820172600-Guptalab_SPI","replies":["c-Axad12-20240820192100-Axad12-20240820172600"]}}-->

Article now deleted, so problem gone (until the sockmaster re-emerges, as he no doubt will one day).
Many thanks for your help with the SPI. Axad12 (talk) 19:21, 20 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240820192100","author":"Axad12","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Axad12-20240820192100-Axad12-20240820172600","replies":[]}}-->
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AfD stats

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https://afdstats.toolforge.org/ lists Enterprisey and Σ.

Neither have edited recently. Enterprisey's talkpage lists you as a maintainer of apersonbot on Toolforge.

Since afdstats is also on toolforge I am hoping you can keep that alive as well.

Am I making any sense whatsoever? Am I in the right place? Polygnotus (talk) 09:36, 23 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240823093600","author":"Polygnotus","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Polygnotus-20240823093600-AfD_stats","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240824031200-Polygnotus-20240823093600"]}}-->

Yes, you are in the right place. I an just busy at the moment. I can't give an ETA for this, so feel free to nudge me however frequent you see appropriate. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 03:12, 24 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240824031200","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240824031200-Polygnotus-20240823093600","replies":["c-Polygnotus-20240824043800-0xDeadbeef-20240824031200"],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
Thanks! No worries, Ahecht restarted it and that fixed it. Polygnotus (talk) 04:38, 24 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240824043800","author":"Polygnotus","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Polygnotus-20240824043800-0xDeadbeef-20240824031200","replies":[]}}-->
Extended content

Traceback (most recent call last): File "/data/project/afdstats/pyvenv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 644, in connect sock = socket.create_connection( File "/usr/lib/python3.9/socket.py", line 822, in create_connection for res in getaddrinfo(host, port, 0, SOCK_STREAM): File "/usr/lib/python3.9/socket.py", line 953, in getaddrinfo for res in _socket.getaddrinfo(host, port, family, type, proto, flags): socket.gaierror: [Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution During handling of the above exception, another exception occurred: Traceback (most recent call last): File "/data/project/afdstats/public_html/afdstats.py", line 112, in main db = pymysql.connect( File "/data/project/afdstats/pyvenv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 358, in __init__ self.connect() File "/data/project/afdstats/pyvenv/lib/python3.9/site-packages/pymysql/connections.py", line 711, in connect raise exc pymysql.err.OperationalError: (2003, "Can't connect to MySQL server on 'enwiki.web.db.svc.wikimedia.cloud' ([Errno -3] Temporary failure in name resolution)") None Fatal error.

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Help me? About a educational Institute.

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hi, I want to add a schools information in Wikipedia. How can I create a page for this Educational Institute. The institute is known as Khagrabondo Adorsho Bidda Niketon,Badargang.Please help me to create the article. মোঃ আহসান হাবিব রিফাত (talk) 06:57, 25 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240825065700","author":"\u09ae\u09cb\u0983 \u0986\u09b9\u09b8\u09be\u09a8 \u09b9\u09be\u09ac\u09bf\u09ac \u09b0\u09bf\u09ab\u09be\u09a4","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-\u09ae\u09cb\u0983_\u0986\u09b9\u09b8\u09be\u09a8_\u09b9\u09be\u09ac\u09bf\u09ac_\u09b0\u09bf\u09ab\u09be\u09a4-20240825065700-Help_me?_About_a_educational_Institute.","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240825093800-\u09ae\u09cb\u0983_\u0986\u09b9\u09b8\u09be\u09a8_\u09b9\u09be\u09ac\u09bf\u09ac_\u09b0\u09bf\u09ab\u09be\u09a4-20240825065700"]}}-->

@মোঃ আহসান হাবিব রিফাত: Feel free to take a look at the Article wizard and make sure you have reliable sources that can help establish its notability. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 09:38, 25 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240825093800","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240825093800-\u09ae\u09cb\u0983_\u0986\u09b9\u09b8\u09be\u09a8_\u09b9\u09be\u09ac\u09bf\u09ac_\u09b0\u09bf\u09ab\u09be\u09a4-20240825065700","replies":[],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
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I want to report a problem

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Greetings. I am Risantana, a self-confirmed user of the Spanish Wikipedia with 15 years on the platform. I collaborate mainly by making vector images for the articles on the Dominican Republic on Wikipedia.

I would like to report a user who is making drawings of flags and bodies of the Dominican armed forces in SVG format that are not faithful to the originals that these institutions show, and are even poorly drawn.

The "user" in question is 0Username1233451

Is there a way to block this user and delete their contributions?

i think is a good measure to stop this graphic vandalism.

Take care. Risantana (talk) 16:58, 25 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240825165800","author":"Risantana","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Risantana-20240825165800-I_want_to_report_a_problem","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240827080000-Risantana-20240825165800"]}}-->

@Risantana: I am not a commons admin so I can't help with that. Try going to commons:Commons:Administrators' noticeboard/User problems if there is a problem with the uploads by said user. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 08:00, 27 August 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240827080000","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240827080000-Risantana-20240825165800","replies":[],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
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Something interesting..

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Look at the following AfDs:

If you went through everything in Special:PrefixIndex/Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of important publications, you'd see that all the recent ones had been closed as Delete.

But in Special:PrefixIndex/List of important publications, a lot of articles still remain. I personally like how the list for biology was turned into a valid article: bibliography of biology which collects notable works instead of the others that are full of OR. I don't think that can be done for all topics, where there might not be a lot of publications that are notable. Like List of important publications in data science.

I don't know if a mass AfD should be started, but there are plenty of problematic articles. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 10:09, 2 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240902100900","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240902100900-Something_interesting..","replies":[],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->

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BS

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The Original Barnstar
For your patience, aplomb, and forbearance in dealing with the trolling by ZeehanLin-- Deepfriedokra (talk) 18:27, 10 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240910182700","author":"Deepfriedokra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Deepfriedokra-20240910182700-BS","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240911080400-Deepfriedokra-20240910182700"],"displayName":"-- Deepfriedokra"}}-->
Thank you for the barnstar! And thank you too for the tireless work you put into dealing with unblock requests. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 08:04, 11 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911080400","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240911080400-Deepfriedokra-20240910182700","replies":[],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
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Mikey551415

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Hey well it’s kind of hard to even re appeal if admin abused powers and indefinitely blocked me. Also I know the email I wrote and i assure you that it was not abusive or threatening. 173.68.149.67 (talk) 02:37, 11 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911023700","author":"173.68.149.67","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-173.68.149.67-20240911023700-Mikey551415","replies":["c-173.68.149.67-20240911023800-173.68.149.67-20240911023700"]}}-->

Also since we can’t come To
resolution to anything and everything I do is a problem and leads to issues can we just remove my Wikipedia account permanently. Tired of feeling like a target 173.68.149.67 (talk) 02:38, 11 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911023800","author":"173.68.149.67","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-173.68.149.67-20240911023800-173.68.149.67-20240911023700","replies":["c-Deepfriedokra-20240911093500-173.68.149.67-20240911023800"]}}-->
We can mostly courtesy blank his user talk page, leaving only the last block notice. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:35, 11 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911093500","author":"Deepfriedokra","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Deepfriedokra-20240911093500-173.68.149.67-20240911023800","replies":[],"displayName":"-- Deepfriedokra"}}-->
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Or just specifically me?

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I think it is your imperious mien.😜 I'd just stay off his talk page and let someone else review the unblock. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 09:42, 11 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911094200","author":"Deepfriedokra","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Deepfriedokra-20240911094200-Or_just_specifically_me?","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240911095300-Deepfriedokra-20240911094200"],"displayName":"-- Deepfriedokra"}}-->

Yeah, that's probably wiser. I sometimes have a weird tendency to provoke problematic users.. Interestingly, one admin got desysopped recently for "abuse of admin powers", with one of the justification for that being not communicating to a user they blocked while the user was requesting unblock. I didn't feel like that admin should have been desysopped, but oh well. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 09:53, 11 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911095300","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240911095300-Deepfriedokra-20240911094200","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240911104600-0xDeadbeef-20240911095300"],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
Sorry, I should have specified zhwiki. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 10:46, 11 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911104600","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240911104600-0xDeadbeef-20240911095300","replies":["c-Deepfriedokra-20240911155200-0xDeadbeef-20240911104600"],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
Not just you. -- Deepfriedokra (talk) 15:52, 11 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240911155200","author":"Deepfriedokra","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Deepfriedokra-20240911155200-0xDeadbeef-20240911104600","replies":[],"displayName":"-- Deepfriedokra"}}-->
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Editor interaction 500 error

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Reporting per its instructions (plus the fact that User talk:Σ lists you as one of the remaining maintainers): [5]

Error details
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/workspace/app.py", line 33, in inner
    return func(*a, **kw)
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/workspace/app.py", line 71, in editorinteract_py
    tpl, store = EditorInteract(params)()
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/workspace/editorinteract.py", line 30, in __call__
    self.process_results(store)
  File "/workspace/editorinteract.py", line 166, in process_results
    if store.namespaces[edit[0]]:
       20:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)20:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)20:49, 15 September 2024 (UTC)~^^^^^^^^^
KeyError: 126

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looking into it. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 11:58, 21 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240921115800","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240921115800-JayBeeEll-20240915204900","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240921121200-0xDeadbeef-20240921115800"],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
Fixed by editing ./www/python/src/metacrap/enwiki.meta to include MOS namespaces for the tool. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 12:12, 21 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240921121200","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240921121200-0xDeadbeef-20240921115800","replies":["c-JayBeeEll-20240921191500-0xDeadbeef-20240921121200"],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
Thank you!! --JBL (talk) 19:15, 21 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240921191500","author":"JayBeeEll","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-JayBeeEll-20240921191500-0xDeadbeef-20240921121200","replies":[],"displayName":"JBL"}}-->
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Hello, I am having confusion when trying to update hurricane info. For example prior to an edit conflict when updating Helene's wind speed, I set the value to 105, the wind speed as of the current advisory. But it didn't reflect it, but when I clicked show preview, it had higher wind speeds than what it is. I am confused on this. I would like an answer to the problem that I am having. Thanks, Felicia (talk) 15:04, 26 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240926150400","author":"Felicia777","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Felicia777-20240926150400-Hurricane_template","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240926152000-Felicia777-20240926150400"],"displayName":"Felicia"}}-->

Hi @Felicia777: I'm having some trouble understanding the problem. Maybe consider creating a new topic at the Tropical Cyclones WikiProject? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 15:20, 26 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240926152000","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240926152000-Felicia777-20240926150400","replies":[],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
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Thank you! What a year it has been. Not too busy, but I kept myself occupied. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 04:56, 27 October 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027045600","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20241027045600-Gerda_Arendt-20241026071200","replies":[],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
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Just letting you know because I saw an attempt to fix it a few days ago (which worked for a bit..) FifthFive (talk) 21:15, 27 October 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241027211500","author":"FifthFive","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FifthFive-20241027211500-EnterpriseyBot_back_to_not_updating_defcon","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi, i believe the issuance of China's first corporate bond for private firms in 2005 was in fact a significant breakthrough for capital markets nationwide. This is because all corporate bonds prior to this could only be issued by state-owned firms. Such a policy change marked sizeable economic growth spurred by the ability of private firms to raise capital for their development. Therefore this event was not only an important part of Hengdian's corporate history, but also in the larger historical context for private firms nationwide. Please consider the following rewrite with added background explanation, with consideration to article published by the SCMP, a reputable news source based in Hong Kong, as well as the following paper by NBER, a prominent American private nonprofit research organisation (https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w25549/w25549.pdf), which confirms on page 12 that commercial papers for private enterprises were launched in China in 2005. Thank you for your consideration.

"In a landmark step significant to the development of private enterprise and economic progress in China, Hengdian Group in 2005 became the first private firm in the country to issue a corporate bond. China had earlier that year established a new market for short-term bonds, creating a pathway for private companies to raise cheap capital to stimulate growth through the use of capital markets. Before this, bond issuance was available to state-owned enterprises (SOE) only. In accordance with this new policy, Hengdian was able to raise one billion yuan through a one-year bond in 2005.” LILING ZHANG (talk) 09:17, 29 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240929091700","author":"LILING ZHANG","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-LILING_ZHANG-20240929091700-Hengdian_Group","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20240929101200-LILING_ZHANG-20240929091700"]}}-->

@LILING ZHANG: That still reads like promotional tone to me. Which source has said "a landmark step significant to the development of private enterprise and economic progress in China"?
And, what is your connection to the Hengdian Group? Have you been paid to edit? 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 10:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240929101200","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20240929101200-LILING_ZHANG-20240929091700","replies":["c-LILING_ZHANG-20241015055400-0xDeadbeef-20240929101200"],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
Hey, my parents are from there and I grew up in Hengdian town, where the company has been a big support to infrastructure development, hospitals etc. It's a company town, kind of like Hershey in Pennsylvania where a lot social facilities and housing were built by the Hersheys company too.
I haven't found a source that directly uses the line you mention so you’re right we shouldn’t use the word “landmark.” If you prefer to quote published sources, lets go with: Hengdian "became the first private firm in China to issue a corporate bond on the new short-term bond market.... marks a breakthrough for private companies which are eager to tap into the cheapest form of financing available on the mainland." These direct quotes come from the first and last paragraph of the SCMP news article, which uses purely factual language. The reason I believe this is not promotional but rather has news value (and hence why it was published) is because it was the first private company in China to issue a corporate bond, and being the first was a significant step the development of Chinese financial markets too.
I'd like to propose the new edit:
In 2005, Hengdian became the first private firm in China to issue a corporate bond on the new short-term bond market. This marked a breakthrough for private companies which are eager to tap into the cheapest form of financing available on the mainland. China had earlier that year established a new market for short-term bonds, creating a pathway for private companies to raise cheap capital to stimulate growth through the use of capital markets. Before this, bond issuance was available to state-owned enterprises (SOE) only. In accordance with this new policy, Hengdian was able to raise one billion yuan through a one-year bond in 2005. LILING ZHANG (talk) 05:54, 15 October 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241015055400","author":"LILING ZHANG","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-LILING_ZHANG-20241015055400-0xDeadbeef-20240929101200","replies":["c-LILING_ZHANG-20241030061500-LILING_ZHANG-20241015055400"]}}-->
Hi again, just a small reminder about my edit. I understand that this corporate bond isn’t big global news so there isn’t much international reporting about it. But in the context of China’s financial system, it was a big deal for the market that there was the first corporate bond issued by a private company, since before that it was ONLY state-owned enterprises that could do this. I’ve found this other piece of news from Sina News Online (again, I do get that it’s not significant for international media to be reporting it at that time) https://finance.sina.cn/sa/2006-02-07/detail-ikknscsi3069323.d.html?from=wap that you can read using a browser translator, if it helps. Thanks again for your consideration! LILING ZHANG (talk) 06:15, 30 October 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030061500","author":"LILING ZHANG","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-LILING_ZHANG-20241030061500-LILING_ZHANG-20241015055400","replies":[]}}-->
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I used your migration guide to migrate to WikiAuthBot2 today. Went smoothly. Thanks for taking over that bot and getting it working again :) –Novem Linguae (talk) 21:02, 30 October 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241030210200","author":"Novem Linguae","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Novem_Linguae-20241030210200-A_barnstar_for_you!","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20241102093900-Novem_Linguae-20241030210200"]}}-->
Thanks! Still working on things to make it completely failsafe.. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 09:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241102093900","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20241102093900-Novem_Linguae-20241030210200","replies":[],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->
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Hey Deadbeef. Seems EnterpriseyBot went down again. I just noticed it hasn't updated Vandalism information in a while. Think you can handle getting the bot back up again? Thanks! Jalen Barks (Woof) 16:07, 19 October 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241019160700","author":"JalenBarks","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-JalenBarks-20241019160700-EnterpriseyBot_again","replies":["c-0xDeadbeef-20241022075900-JalenBarks-20241019160700"],"displayName":"Jalen Barks"}}-->

Restarted. Should be fixed now. 0xDeadbeef→∞ (talk to me) 07:59, 22 October 2024 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20241022075900","author":"0xDeadbeef","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-0xDeadbeef-20241022075900-JalenBarks-20241019160700","replies":[],"displayName":"Deadbeef"}}-->