Typhoon (American band)

Typhoon
Typhoon playing at the Gothic in Denver (April 2022)
Typhoon playing at the Gothic in Denver (April 2022)
Background information
OriginSalem, Oregon
GenresIndie rock
Years active2005–present
LabelsRoll Call Records, Tender Loving Empire, MapleMusic Recordings (Canada)
Members
  • Kyle Morton
  • Toby Tanabe
  • Dave Hall
  • Devin Gallagher
  • Eric Stipe
  • Alex Fitch
  • Shannon Steele
  • Jordan Vale
Past members
  • Pieter Hilton
  • Ryan McAlpin
  • Jen Hufnagel
  • Paige Morton
  • Nora Zimmerly
  • Grant Hall
  • Tyler Ferrin
Websitewearetyphoon.com

Typhoon is an American indie rock band based in Portland, Oregon. Led by singer-songwriter Kyle Morton since its founding in 2005, the band is anchored by bassist Toby Tanabe, guitarist Dave Hall, drummer Alex Fitch, and violinist/vocalist Shannon Steele and has been noted for its large size, boasting up to fourteen members in its past.[1] They have released five albums and two EPs, also contributing to a number of compilations. Their most recent album, Underground Complex No. 1 was released on April 15, 2022.[2]

History

Typhoon was formed in Portland in 2005 by high-school friends Kyle Morton, Toby Tanabe and Dave Hall who had relocated from Salem, Oregon. The band's name, originally a working title, references a dinner conversation Kyle, Toby and Dave shared in Japan as teenagers. Typhoon's self-titled debut album was recorded and self-released in 2005. Over the following five years, the band was active in the Portland house party scene and incorporated new members from the Portland music community in its lineup.[3] During this period, they released the Dearborn Sessions EP.

Typhoon released their sophomore album, Hunger and Thirst, in 2010.[4] The album was their first to be released by Portland record label Tender Loving Empire. That year, Typhoon was voted number two on Willamette Week's annual list of the top ten best new bands in Portland.[5]

Typhoon released the EP A New Kind of House in 2011 as a thematic companion to Hunger and Thirst.[6] On August 4, 2011, Typhoon made their television debut on Late Show with David Letterman, performing "The Honest Truth;"[7] the track was ranked #3 in Paste magazine's list of the 50 best songs of 2011.[8] During this period, Typhoon opened for The Thermals, Quasi, Yann Tiersen, Explosions in the Sky, The Decemberists, Belle and Sebastian, and The Shins, and toured with Lady Lamb the Beekeeper. Their music later appeared on the SyFy series Being Human and the NBC series Chuck.

Typhoon released White Lighter in 2013 via Roll Call Records. The album, described as entrancing with uplifting melodies and dark lyrics, was recorded just outside the band's hometown in Portland, Oregon.[9] It reached #105 on US Billboard Top 200 and #2 on Heatseekers. White Lighter was voted #28 on NPR's Best Album of the Year[10] and #37 on PASTE Album of the Year.[11] Their song "Young Fathers" was included in NPR's Best Songs of 2013 list[12] and "Prosthetic Love" appeared in the movie Veronica Mars.[13]

Typhoon playing at the Venue in Vancouver, BC, on January 18, 2014.

The band played the Lollapalooza and Outside Lands music festivals in 2014 and finished the summer with a tour with Portugal. The Man and Grouplove throughout August and September.

Typhoon released Live at Crystal Ballroom in November 2015 as a free download on Bandcamp and Noisetrade. The album includes live performances of songs from White Lighter and the band's older album, Hunger and Thirst. A companion series of videos from the show was posted on YouTube.

On July 7, 2016, the band announced that they had begun recording of their next full-length album.[14] During this period, frontman Kyle Morton released his solo debut What Will Destroy You and toured in January 2017.[15] In September 2017, the band teased 60 seconds of a new song from their upcoming album and announced listening parties for October 2017.[16] On October 25, 2017, the band announced their fourth album Offerings, scheduled to be released on January 12, 2018.[17] The album debuted on NPR's First Listen on January 4, 2018.[18] In an interview with Sound of Boston, violinist Shannon Steel explained how the band lineup changed since the last album: "As time passed, some members started taking root at home, choosing different careers, starting families, and going naturally in different directions. As a result we’ve had a slight personnel change. It worked out sort of seamlessly though because the songs that Kyle started bringing to the group had a much different energy to them than what we had come up with before."[19]

On January 22, 2021, Typhoon released Sympathetic Magic without prior announcement, a full-length album completed during the COVID-19 pandemic, along with lead single "Empire Builder." Morton said of the album, "I wrote all these songs while puttering around the house these past several months, because, what else was I going to do? The songs are about people- the space between them and the ordinary, miraculous things that happen there, as we come into contact, imitate each other, leave our marks, lose touch. Being self and other somehow amounting to the same thing."[20]

In 2022 the band released two singles "Mind of God" and "New Wife" for the EP Underground Complex No. 1 which released on April 15, 2022.[2]

Style

Typhoon's music is marked by complicated arrangements and careful orchestration. Live performances routinely involve twelve or more band members playing at once. According to Lauren Rosenthal at mySpoonful, "the group masterfully combines indie rock instrumentals and vocals with violins, percussion, hand claps, xylophone, horns and a choir of other instruments, making for inspiring and catchy songs."[21] Their sound emulates and is sometimes compared to Frightened Rabbit, Bright Eyes, Beirut, and Arcade Fire.[22]

The band's instrumentation is centered around a traditional rock configuration of guitars, keyboards, bass guitar, and drums and is complemented by brass, strings, and auxiliary percussion, among other instruments.

Typhoon's early recordings reveal a greater degree of experimentation with various styles, including a number of "sea shanties", country western and Eastern European-inspired songs. Their later output, including their album Hunger and Thirst and its companion EP, A New Kind of House, show a more focused and consistent sound, and a greater focus on creating a cohesive thematic through-line. Many of the songs are preoccupied with mortality and directly reference lead singer and primary songwriter Kyle Morton's own struggle with Lyme disease as a child.[23]

Band members

  • Kyle Morton – lead vocals, songwriter, piano, guitar (2005–present)
  • Toby Tanabe – bass, vocals (2005–present)
  • Dave Hall – guitar, vocals (2005–present)
  • Devin Gallagher – percussion, ukulele, vocals (2005–present)
  • Eric Stipe – trumpet, vocals (2005–2016, 2020–present)
  • Alex Fitch – drums, vocals (2009–present)
  • Shannon Steele – violin, vocals (2009–present)
  • Jordan Vale – trumpet (2021–present)[24]
  • Paul Laxer – producer, engineer (contributor: 2009–present)

Former members

  • Tyler Ferrin – horns, guitar, piano, vocals (2005–2021)
  • Pieter Hilton – drums, vocals (2007–2021)[25]
  • Ben Morton – guitar (contributor: 2020–2021)
  • Ryan McAlpin – trumpet, vocals (2010–2016)
  • Jen Hufnagel – violin, vocals (2010–2016)
  • Paige Morton – violin, vocals (2005–2011)
  • Nora Zimmerly – vocals, piano, percussion (2010–2011)
  • Grant Hall – mellophone, backing vocals (2010–2011)
  • Samantha Kushnick – cello, vocals (2010–2011)
  • Jordan Bagnall – viola, accordion, keyboard, vocals (c. 2005)
  • Casey O'Brien – drums (c. 2005)
  • Conlan Murphy – guitar, percussion, banjo, vocals (c. 2005)
  • Leah Ng – vocals (c. 2005)
  • Gavin Pritchard (c. 2005)

Discography

Studio albums

Title Album details Peak chart positions
US
[26] 		US Heat
[27] 		US Indie
[28] 		US Rock
[29]
Typhoon
  • Released: 2005
  • Label: Boy Gorilla Records
  • Format: CD
 — — — —
Hunger and Thirst — — — —
White Lighter
  • Released: August 20, 2013
  • Label: Roll Call Records
  • Format: LP, CD, digital
 105 2 23 34
Offerings
  • Release date: January 12, 2018
  • Label: Roll Call Records
  • Format: LP, CD, digital
 183 1 3 34
Sympathetic Magic
  • Release date: January 22, 2021
  • Label: Roll Call Records
  • Format: digital; LP, CD (late 2021)
 — — — —
"—" denotes album that did not chart or was not released

Live albums

  • Live at Mississippi Studios (Neighborhood Films, 2012), companion album to DVD of the same name
  • Live at the Crystal Ballroom (Roll Call Records, 2015)

EPs

Title EP details
June 2006 Tour EP
  • Released: 2006
  • Label: Boy Gorilla Records
  • Limited physical release
Dearborn Sessions
  • Released: 2007
  • Label: Boy Gorilla Records
  • Limited physical release
A New Kind of House
Underground Complex No. 1
  • Released: April 15, 2022
  • Label: Roll Call Records
  • Format: digital; LP, CD (June 2022)

Compilation and split albums

  • Split (2007) (split 7-inch with Lake)
  • From Boy Gorilla and Beyond (2011), a compilation of songs released before signing to record label Tender Loving Empire
  • Typhoon / My Body Remix (2015) (split 7-inch with My Body)

Singles

Title
(A-side / B-side) 		Year Album
"The Honest Truth"
b/w "Orange Peels" 		2012 Non-album single
"Common Sentiments"
b/w "Green" 		White Lighter
"Dreams of Cannibalism"
b/w "Rules of the Game" 		2013
"Young Fathers"
"Thinking About You" (Frank Ocean cover) Non-album singles
"Prosthetic Love (Piano Version)"
b/w "Beat & Weathered / One Hundred Years" 		2015
"Rorschach" 2017 Offerings
"Darker"
"Remember" 2018
"Post Script" (East Forest Remix) Non-album single
"Welcome to the Endgame" 2020 Sympathetic Magic
"Mind of God" 2022 Underground Complex No. 1
"New Wife"

References

  1. ^ "Typhoon On 'World Cafe: Next'". NPR.org. Retrieved 2022-04-14.
  2. ^ a b "New Mix: Arcade Fire, Valerie June, The Smile, Andrew Bird, more : All Songs Considered". NPR.org. Retrieved 2022-04-22.
  3. ^ "Interview: Kyle Morton of Typhoon". Verbicide. Retrieved 2021-02-22.
  4. ^ "Typhoon: Going Big". pastemagazine.com. 2011-08-08. Retrieved 2021-02-22.
  5. ^ Mannheimer, Michael (5 May 2010). "Best New Bands of 2010". Willamette Week. Retrieved 13 July 2011.
  6. ^ "Typhoon: A New Kind of House « American Songwriter". American Songwriter. 2011-03-07. Retrieved 2021-02-22.
  7. ^ "Watch Typhoon on The Late Show with David Letterman". Typhoon. Retrieved 2011-08-06.
  8. ^ "The 50 Best Songs of 2011" Archived 2012-08-18 at the Wayback Machine, Paste, November 2011. Their song "Prosthetic Love was featured in the Veronica Mars Movie.
  9. ^ "Typhoon: White Lighter". Retrieved 2016-07-20.
  10. ^ "Poll Results: Listeners Pick Their Favorite Albums of 2013". NPR. Retrieved 2016-07-20.
  11. ^ "The 50 Best Albums of 2013". Retrieved 2016-07-20.
  12. ^ "NPR Music's 100 Favorite Songs Of 2013". NPR. Retrieved 2016-07-20.
  13. ^ Thomas, Rob (2014-03-13), Veronica Mars, retrieved 2016-07-20
  14. ^ "Typhoon – Timeline | Facebook". www.facebook.com. Retrieved 2016-07-20.
  15. ^ "Typhoon". www.wearetyphoon.com. Retrieved 2016-10-03.
  16. ^ Typhoon (7 Sep 2017). "pic.twitter.com/p3L6j0Fdgb". @weareTYPHOON. Retrieved 2017-10-16.
  17. ^ "Typhoon". wearetyphoon.com. Retrieved 2017-10-25.
  18. ^ "First Listen: Typhoon, 'Offerings'". NPR.org. Retrieved 2018-01-05.
  19. ^ Bedian, Knar (24 January 2018). "Interview: Typhoon's Death-Affirming Offerings". Sound of Boston. Retrieved 25 April 2022.
  20. ^ "Typhoon Surprise Release New Album Sympathetic Magic". pastemagazine.com. 2021-01-21. Retrieved 2021-01-26.
  21. ^ Rosenthal, Lauren. "Typhoon". mySpoonful. Archived from the original on 12 August 2011. Retrieved 13 July 2011.
  22. ^ Schneider, Erich. "Music Enthusiast". Typhoon the Band. Retrieved 29 March 2015.
  23. ^ Allen, Dave. "An Interview with Kyle of Typhoon". Pampelmoose.com. Archived from the original on 1 October 2011. Retrieved 24 July 2011.
  24. ^ Typhoon [@typhoonfamilyvacation] (December 13, 2021). "Introducing our new trumpet player, percussionist and all around wiz @jordana.trmpt! We're so psyched to have Jordan in the band – he's a gem of a person and lemme tell you: he's got some chops..." – via Instagram.
  25. ^ Typhoon [@typhoonfamilyvacation] (March 28, 2022). "...Bend, thanks for coming out and getting emotional with us. It was so great to see Pieter there. Miss ya big guy..." – via Instagram.
  26. ^ "Typhoon Chart History: Billboard 200". Billboard. Retrieved January 23, 2018.
  27. ^ "Typhoon Chart History: Heatseekers Albums". Billboard. Retrieved January 23, 2018.
  28. ^ "Typhoon Chart History: Independent Albums". Billboard. Retrieved January 23, 2018.
  29. ^ "Typhoon Chart History: Rock Albums". Billboard. Retrieved January 23, 2018.

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