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Is there a reason the image of the television has been commented out of this? Aidan 08:37, Jun 3, 2005 (UTC)

• The current television is a copyrighted image from Photodisc's object series. It is not reproducible on Wikipedia. Someone uploaded it because it appeared on a NASA web site, but it is not a NASA image. NASA may have licensed it from PhotoDisc, but if they did that license does not turn it into a public-domain image, because it's not a picture shot by NASA. I've removed it from the template. Jsnell 19:45, 16 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-16T19:45:00.000Z","author":"Jsnell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Jsnell-2005-08-16T19:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jsnell-2005-08-20T06:18:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-16T19:45:00.000Z","c-Havok-2005-08-20T07:35:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-16T19:45:00.000Z","c-Jsnell-2005-08-22T05:20:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-16T19:45:00.000Z"]}}-->

• Seriously, LifeIsUnfair, do you expect me to believe that you took a picture that is almost pixel-for-pixel identical to the infringing picture? If you've got a full-size version of your shot that proves that it's not just a rip-off of the PhotoDisc image, please link to it. Jsnell 06:18, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-20T06:18:00.000Z","author":"Jsnell","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jsnell-2005-08-20T06:18:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-16T19:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-20T19:58:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-20T06:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, I didn't take a picture that is almost pixel-for-pixel identical to the PhotoDisc image. I took a picture of a similar television set (a common item, in case you didn't realize), cropped out the background, removed the screen reflection, reduced the dimensions to 30x22 (which leaves very little room for disparity) and cleaned up the imperfections. The model that I photographed has only one knob, so I simply copied and pasted it to create a second knob. (The lower one is fake.)

Frankly, I'm offended by your refusal to assume good faith (even initially), the resultant accusations, and your decision to not bother leaving a note on my talk page. (Had I not been watching the {{tv-stub}} template, I never would have seen this discussion or learned of your false copyright infringement report.) I made a special trip to my grandmother's house (when she wasn't even home to visit) to photograph that old TV set. I did this in response to the inadvertent copyright violation that you brought to light, and this is the thanks that I get.

The full-size image is my property, and I will not release it onto the Internet at this time. I'm sorry that you aren't willing to trust my word. —Lifeisunfair 19:58, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-20T19:58:00.000Z","author":"Lifeisunfair","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-20T19:58:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-20T06:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jsnell-2005-08-22T05:23:00.000Z-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-20T19:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

• 'edited': dropping the argument and trying to find a better alternative. see below. Jsnell 05:23, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-22T05:23:00.000Z","author":"Jsnell","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Jsnell-2005-08-22T05:23:00.000Z-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-20T19:58:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• If it does infringe, revert back to the picture I made. It might not looks as "nice" but it's not infringing on anything. Havok (T/C) 07:35, 20 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-20T07:35:00.000Z","author":"Havok","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Havok-2005-08-20T07:35:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-16T19:45:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• In the interests of being a good citizen, I've taken a picture of my own TV and made an icon out of it. I hope it suffices. Jsnell 05:20, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-22T05:20:00.000Z","author":"Jsnell","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jsnell-2005-08-22T05:20:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-16T19:45:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-22T07:48:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-22T05:20:00.000Z"]}}-->

It looks fine, but I could have taken a similar photograph (of a modern television monitor) without leaving the room that I'm sitting in. I went to the trouble of photographing my grandmother's old TV set because I wanted this template to retain its long-standing appearance, and to continue matching the style of the {{Radio-stub}} template (which contains an icon that I patterned after the infringing TV icon). No offense, but replacing an image on the basis of a hunch that I'm a thief and a liar doesn't strike me as "being a good citizen." —Lifeisunfair 07:48, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-22T07:48:00.000Z","author":"Lifeisunfair","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-22T07:48:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-22T05:20:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jsnell-2005-08-22T18:17:00.000Z-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-22T07:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

At this point I have no evidence to dispute the claims of Lifeisunfair with regards to his image, so if he would rather re-point the image on this template to his image, I promise not to complain again. The old image was clearly in violation of copyright; Lifeisunfair's image is not, so that's a good thing. Jsnell 18:17, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-22T18:17:00.000Z","author":"Jsnell","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jsnell-2005-08-22T18:17:00.000Z-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-22T07:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-22T19:32:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-22T18:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thank you. Please withdraw your copyright infringement reports (both here and at Wikimedia Commons). —Lifeisunfair 19:32, 22 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-22T19:32:00.000Z","author":"Lifeisunfair","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-22T19:32:00.000Z-Jsnell-2005-08-22T18:17:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jsnell-2005-08-23T01:13:00.000Z-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-22T19:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Done. For what it's worth, it doesn't appear that Getty (purchasers of PhotoDisc) or any other stock-image companies stock the original image anymore, so I doubt anyone else will complain about the similarities between your image and the original Object Series image that NASA used on its website (and which was originally re-used on this page). Jsnell 01:13, 23 August 2005 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2005-08-23T01:13:00.000Z","author":"Jsnell","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Jsnell-2005-08-23T01:13:00.000Z-Lifeisunfair-2005-08-22T19:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Please add bg:Шаблон:Телевизия-мъниче. Thanks. --Petar Petrov 17:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-07T17:42:00.000Z","author":"Petar Petrov","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Petar_Petrov-2007-03-07T17:42:00.000Z-interwiki","replies":["c-Amalas-2007-03-23T15:14:00.000Z-Petar_Petrov-2007-03-07T17:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Done. ~ Amalas rawr ^{=^_^=} 15:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-03-23T15:14:00.000Z","author":"Amalas","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Amalas-2007-03-23T15:14:00.000Z-Petar_Petrov-2007-03-07T17:42:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"~ Amalas"}}-->

Could you please replace this .png icon to its .svg version — zero » 15:52, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-01T15:52:00.000Z","author":"Z.E.R.O.","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Z.E.R.O.-2007-04-01T15:52:00.000Z-Please_replace_icon_with_.svg_version","replies":["c-David_Levy-2007-04-01T16:13:00.000Z-Z.E.R.O.-2007-04-01T15:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"ze"}}-->

The template has been unprotected, but that isn't "its .svg version." It's a totally different (and less realistic) image. What's wrong with the current one? —David Levy 16:13, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-01T16:13:00.000Z","author":"David Levy","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-David_Levy-2007-04-01T16:13:00.000Z-Z.E.R.O.-2007-04-01T15:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-David_Levy-2007-04-01T16:19:00.000Z-David_Levy-2007-04-01T16:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

That was not a "minor" edit (especially after a fellow editor expressed disapproval of the change). —David Levy 16:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-01T16:19:00.000Z","author":"David Levy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-David_Levy-2007-04-01T16:19:00.000Z-David_Levy-2007-04-01T16:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->