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Messed with the template a litte. Changed the picture. Antley 20:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T20:05:00.000Z","author":"Antley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Antley-2007-07-10T20:05:00.000Z-Picture","replies":["c-Jared-2007-07-10T21:51:00.000Z-Antley-2007-07-10T20:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

It doesn't look like you did.... _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐ 21:51, 10 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-10T21:51:00.000Z","author":"Jared","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jared-2007-07-10T21:51:00.000Z-Antley-2007-07-10T20:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Antley-2007-07-21T21:09:00.000Z-Jared-2007-07-10T21:51:00.000Z"]}}-->

I did but ended up changing it back because I couldn't find an appropriate public domain photo.Antley 21:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-21T21:09:00.000Z","author":"Antley","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Antley-2007-07-21T21:09:00.000Z-Jared-2007-07-10T21:51:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Why "W Mitt Romney"? Do people call him that? Even though his first name is Willard, I think it would be better to just say "Mitt Romney." -Fagles 13:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-12T13:35:00.000Z","author":"Fagles","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Fagles-2007-07-12T13:35:00.000Z-W","replies":["c-Jared-2007-07-12T15:40:00.000Z-Fagles-2007-07-12T13:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Perhaps, although I think it looks more formal with the W, but I don't have strong feelings either way. _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐ 15:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-12T15:40:00.000Z","author":"Jared","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Jared-2007-07-12T15:40:00.000Z-Fagles-2007-07-12T13:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Fagles-2007-07-12T20:23:00.000Z-Jared-2007-07-12T15:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

I don't have strong feelings either, I just thought I'd mention that it look a bit off to me. I think the template should match the name of the main article (Mitt Romney). Thus the template for Bill Clinton has that name rather than, say "Bill J. Clinton." By contrast, the main article for George W. Bush has the middle initial, which is echoed in the name on the template. -Fagles 20:23, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-12T20:23:00.000Z","author":"Fagles","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Fagles-2007-07-12T20:23:00.000Z-Jared-2007-07-12T15:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Jared-2007-07-12T20:30:00.000Z-Fagles-2007-07-12T20:23:00.000Z","c-Antley-2007-07-21T21:09:00.000Z-Fagles-2007-07-12T20:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

I see what you're saying. Not that I'm too worried, but it may seem a bit misleading to show Mitt without the W. because it may look like it's actually his first name. But with the precedents you've shown, I guess I'll have to give in! _└^Jared_┘^┌_t^┐ 20:30, 12 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-12T20:30:00.000Z","author":"Jared","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Jared-2007-07-12T20:30:00.000Z-Fagles-2007-07-12T20:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I also don't think the first initial is really necessary, and I don't think it's misleading. "Mitt Romney" is the name he's known by. Antley 21:09, 21 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-07-21T21:09:00.000Z","author":"Antley","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Antley-2007-07-21T21:09:00.000Z-Fagles-2007-07-12T20:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I have nominated the image used in this template for deletion: Wikipedia:Possibly unfree images/2008 November 24.--HoboJones (talk) 16:23, 24 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-11-24T16:23:00.000Z","author":"HoboJones","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-HoboJones-2008-11-24T16:23:00.000Z-This_Template's_Image","replies":[]}}-->

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Romneys role at the Olympics included campaigning, budgets, and CEO. Those are political roles. Furthermore, one of the two links is a redirect to 2002 Winter Olympics; why should that be on his template? Pass a Method talk 00:41, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-29T00:41:00.000Z","author":"PassaMethod","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T00:41:00.000Z-Politics","replies":["c-Wasted_Time_R-2012-06-29T02:16:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T00:41:00.000Z","c-GabeMc-2012-06-29T03:05:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T00:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

What campaigning was there? Trying to get sponsorships? Lots of companies do that (think of sports teams trying to get sponsors for the stadiums they build). Budgets and CEO are business functions. The two links are to 2002 Winter Olympics and Salt Lake Organizing Committee for the Olympic and Paralympic Winter Games of 2002, two separate articles. Yes, there's a little politicking in the Organizing Committee role, but not that much. Note that Category:Presidents of Organising Committees for the Olympic Games is full of non-politicians, and that its parent categories are business executive categories, not politician categories. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:16, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-29T02:16:00.000Z","author":"Wasted Time R","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Wasted_Time_R-2012-06-29T02:16:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T00:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T02:41:00.000Z-Wasted_Time_R-2012-06-29T02:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

Templates of BLP's usually include links directly relevant to that person. I don't think 2002 Winter Olympics fits that position. Being head of a board usually is somewhat related to politics, particularly in the case of Romney because the article states he did so to advance his political career. Pass a Method talk 02:41, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-29T02:41:00.000Z","author":"PassaMethod","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T02:41:00.000Z-Wasted_Time_R-2012-06-29T02:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-ViriiK-2012-06-29T02:52:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T02:41:00.000Z","c-Wasted_Time_R-2012-06-29T02:54:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T02:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

I disagree with the OP. Campaigning for the Olympics is not politics due to the nature of the Olympics being apolitical. People who have interjected politics are prominent examples like the Munich massacre. The holding of the Olympics in the United States requires a lot of campaigning to raise money from private entities since the United States government does not fund the Olympics directly. The USOC is a non-profit organization which has the nature of having to compete with other charities out there. There are people who have rose to prominence because of their history such as that of Meg Whitman when she tried to run for Governor of California or Carly Fiorina for Senator. Did they do those positions in order to get into politics? No, they didn't. Now the Salt Lake Games was running a deficit prior to Mitt Romney coming in so his experience with running corporations was able to get that money going. I strongly support the separate category. ViriiK (talk) 02:52, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-29T02:52:00.000Z","author":"ViriiK","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ViriiK-2012-06-29T02:52:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T02:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(ec)Every company has a board of directors. Those members are all politicians? I don't think so. Anyway, I've solicited additional opinions from the Mitt Romney talk page. Wasted Time R (talk) 02:54, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-29T02:54:00.000Z","author":"Wasted Time R","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Wasted_Time_R-2012-06-29T02:54:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T02:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I agree with Wasted and ViriiK. ~ GabeMc (talk) 03:05, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-29T03:05:00.000Z","author":"GabeMc","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-GabeMc-2012-06-29T03:05:00.000Z-PassaMethod-2012-06-29T00:41:00.000Z","replies":["c-Charles_Edwin_Shipp-2012-06-29T03:21:00.000Z-GabeMc-2012-06-29T03:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

I agree with W.Time.R in that rescuing the 2002 Winter Olympics in Utah was before politics for US president began. It was mention in debates, I think, but needs to remain where it is. Many things happened in the life of Mitt Romney that are not part of his campaign. Leave Olympic info where it is. Charles Edwin Shipp (talk) 03:21, 29 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-06-29T03:21:00.000Z","author":"Charles Edwin Shipp","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Charles_Edwin_Shipp-2012-06-29T03:21:00.000Z-GabeMc-2012-06-29T03:05:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->