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TV movies

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The TV movies that are not directly related to a TV series (ie, all but Hulk and Spider-Man) that are currently on this list were moved from List of television programs based on Marvel Comics to List of films based on Marvel Comics. Since this happened, it does not seem appropriate for those films to be on this template, as they are not on the article that is linked in the heading anymore. The question is then, where should they go? Should they be moved to Template:Marvel Comics films? -Joltman 12:10, 21 May 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-05-21T12:10:00.000Z","author":"Joltman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Joltman-2007-05-21T12:10:00.000Z-TV_movies","replies":["c-Tbrittreid-2010-05-06T21:45:00.000Z-Joltman-2007-05-21T12:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Not only is what Joltman describes still true, but the "List" article the title of this navbox links to is, despite the name in the link here, not restricted to live action productions and not the same definition as this template, making that link questionable. There also seems to be a significant amount of redundancy in this family of related lists and navboxes, but just how to resolve it should require great discussion. --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:45, 6 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-05-06T21:45:00.000Z","author":"Tbrittreid","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tbrittreid-2010-05-06T21:45:00.000Z-Joltman-2007-05-21T12:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Spidey Super Stories

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Since Spidey Super Stories was not a TV series in and of itself but a recurring skit within another series, as its own article admits, its inclusion on this template with no clarification or anything of the sort is dubious at best. Further add in the fact that it targeted very small children with the not exactly hidden agenda of helping them learn to read, and it is more of a use of the character rather than an adaptation of the comic series. Rather comparable to the character being used in a series of TV commercials for some product than to the subsequent 1977-79 genuine TV series version. Something needs to be done with this, but what exactly? --Ted Watson (talk) 20:36, 19 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-19T20:36:00.000Z","author":"Tbrittreid","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tbrittreid-2009-03-19T20:36:00.000Z-Spidey_Super_Stories","replies":[],"displayName":"Ted Watson"}}-->

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Inclusion of all Marvel Comics television shows

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Recently Template:Marvel Comics films had a format update, and now includes animated films, and Template:Marvel animation also includes all animated productions based on Marvel Comics. So, I think it's time to revamp this template by including all of the animated shows as well as live-action. --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 12:06, 12 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-12T12:06:00.000Z","author":"ProfessorKilroy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ProfessorKilroy-2011-12-12T12:06:00.000Z-Inclusion_of_all_Marvel_Comics_television_shows","replies":["c-J_Greb-2011-12-13T23:07:00.000Z-ProfessorKilroy-2011-12-12T12:06:00.000Z"]}}-->

Live-action/Animated/Related, then series/TV film, and finally decade if it doesn't get too choppy? Or series/film/related, decade, live/animated?

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I reckon Live action/animated, then series/film. It's the same as the film template. Anyway, are any of the TV films related to certain series? --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 23:51, 13 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-13T23:51:00.000Z","author":"ProfessorKilroy","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ProfessorKilroy-2011-12-13T23:51:00.000Z-Inclusion_of_all_Marvel_Comics_television_shows","replies":[]}}-->

Should there be a mention of Battle Fever J? It was co-produced by Marvel and partially inspired by Captain America. Perhaps in a related section? Alucardbarnivous (talk) 02:10, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-14T02:10:00.000Z","author":"Alucardbarnivous","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Alucardbarnivous-2011-12-14T02:10:00.000Z-Inclusion_of_all_Marvel_Comics_television_shows","replies":["c-J_Greb-2011-12-14T02:55:00.000Z-Alucardbarnivous-2011-12-14T02:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Alucardbarnivous: That a really, really long stretch of the purpose of a navbox.

@ProfessorKilroy: The Amazing Spider-Man (1977 film) was the pilot to the 1978 series. The Incredible Hulk and The Return of the Incredible Hulk were the pilot and first episode for the series. IIUC both were re-edited into 2 part episodes. The Incredible Hulk Returns, The Trial of the Incredible Hulk, and The Death of the Incredible Hulk were extensions of the The Incredible Hulk. Those three as well as Dr. Strange, the 2 Cap films, Generation X, and Nick Fury: Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. were aired as "backdoor pilots" and Power Pack is an unsold series pilot.

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Yeah, is there some way that we can show these connections? Because I would say that films that acted as pilots for TV series have greater connections than perhaps series from different decades. Or does this get too complicated, like the series divisions over at Template:Marvel Comics films? --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 06:39, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-14T06:39:00.000Z","author":"ProfessorKilroy","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-ProfessorKilroy-2011-12-14T06:39:00.000Z-J_Greb-2011-12-14T02:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-J_Greb-2011-12-14T11:55:00.000Z-ProfessorKilroy-2011-12-14T06:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

2 quick thoughts: 1) Yes, it can wind up more complex than necessary. 2) Actually looking at the template links and common practice, the 2 Hulk pre-series movies, the Cap movies, and Power Pack are likely to get removed - the intent of a navbox is to link to articles proper and those articles should primarily match the core topic. All 5 link to articles sections. - J Greb (talk) 11:55, 14 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-14T11:55:00.000Z","author":"J Greb","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-J_Greb-2011-12-14T11:55:00.000Z-ProfessorKilroy-2011-12-14T06:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-ProfessorKilroy-2011-12-15T05:41:00.000Z-J_Greb-2011-12-14T11:55:00.000Z"]}}-->

Okay, so something like this?

I added the show, "Mutant X", and am wondering if we should include shows like "Marvel Anime". --ProfessorKilroy (talk) 05:41, 15 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-12-15T05:41:00.000Z","author":"ProfessorKilroy","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-ProfessorKilroy-2011-12-15T05:41:00.000Z-J_Greb-2011-12-14T11:55:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->