Template talk:James Madison

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In legacy, Liberty's Kids, please omit the word 'miniseries' and leave 'series' (it wasn't a miniseries but a full series). Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 12:44, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-03T12:44:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2018-07-03T12:44:00.000Z-Template-protected_edit_request_on_3_July_2018","replies":["c-MSGJ-2018-07-03T15:38:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2018-07-03T12:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

 Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:38, 3 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-03T15:38:00.000Z","author":"MSGJ","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MSGJ-2018-07-03T15:38:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2018-07-03T12:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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In the 'Related' section, please add "Cognitive Madisonianism" as a subsection of "Madisonian model". Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:23, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-15T16:23:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2019-12-15T16:23:00.000Z-Edit_request","replies":["c-DannyS712-2019-12-15T18:14:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2019-12-15T16:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

 Done DannyS712 (talk) 18:14, 15 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-15T18:14:00.000Z","author":"DannyS712","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-DannyS712-2019-12-15T18:14:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2019-12-15T16:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Add Washington (miniseries) as 'Washington (miniseries)|Washington (2020 miniseries)' in the popular culture section. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:18, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-17T15:18:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-17T15:18:00.000Z-Edit_request_2","replies":["c-MSGJ-2020-02-17T20:39:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-17T15:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not sure the label in the template should be longer than the actual article name. It's common to shorten the name, but why do it the other way round? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 20:39, 17 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-17T20:39:00.000Z","author":"MSGJ","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MSGJ-2020-02-17T20:39:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-17T15:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T01:18:00.000Z-MSGJ-2020-02-17T20:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

MSGJ, do you mean adding the year? The other media include the years for chronological flow, so adding 2020 places this within that pattern. Randy Kryn (talk) 01:18, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-18T01:18:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T01:18:00.000Z-MSGJ-2020-02-17T20:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-MSGJ-2020-02-18T15:26:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T01:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

I noticed that. But these years are not needed for disambiguation, so why don't we remove them and just use the article titles? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:26, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-18T15:26:00.000Z","author":"MSGJ","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MSGJ-2020-02-18T15:26:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T01:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T15:31:00.000Z-MSGJ-2020-02-18T15:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

As a template is a map to the site and subject the chronological progression provides a media overview without taking up much extra space. Commonly used on templates. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:31, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-18T15:31:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T15:31:00.000Z-MSGJ-2020-02-18T15:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-MSGJ-2020-02-18T15:34:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T15:31:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fair enough, but I think it can get too much. For example, can we remove "paternal second cousin", etc. and just have the list of people? Have simplified some in Template:James Madison/sandbox but if you think the current version is better, then I will leave it — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:34, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-18T15:34:00.000Z","author":"MSGJ","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-MSGJ-2020-02-18T15:34:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T15:31:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T15:46:00.000Z-MSGJ-2020-02-18T15:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Please, take out all of the cousins and the unlinked great-grandfather, bridges too far (cousins rarely used in templates, and if I added them my apologies to the template community), but should keep the descriptors of the rest of the family for easy identification. Thanks for taking the time to look at this, it was odd to be frozen out of the template but I assume some vandalism was brewing at some point. Randy Kryn (talk) 15:46, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-18T15:46:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T15:46:00.000Z-MSGJ-2020-02-18T15:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-MSGJ-2020-02-18T16:03:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T15:46:00.000Z"]}}-->

Okay done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 16:03, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-18T16:03:00.000Z","author":"MSGJ","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-MSGJ-2020-02-18T16:03:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T15:46:00.000Z","replies":["c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T16:11:00.000Z-MSGJ-2020-02-18T16:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, and good to bid the cousins adieu. Randy Kryn (talk) 16:11, 18 February 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-02-18T16:11:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2020-02-18T16:11:00.000Z-MSGJ-2020-02-18T16:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Legacy, the new page, Statue of James Madison, may be best listed as 'statue' as a subsection of 'James Madison Memorial Building'. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:49, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-04T04:49:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2020-03-04T04:49:00.000Z-Edit_request_3","replies":[]}}-->

Legacy, add List of memorials to James Madison as 'Memorials' as first item in the 'Legacy' section. Thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 04:55, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-04T04:55:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2020-03-04T04:55:00.000Z-Edit_request_3","replies":[]}}-->

Legacy, add Mount Madison after 'Madison River'. Thanks again! Randy Kryn (talk) 05:09, 4 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-04T05:09:00.000Z","author":"Randy Kryn","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Randy_Kryn-2020-03-04T05:09:00.000Z-Edit_request_3","replies":["c-Izno-2020-03-05T01:33:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-03-04T05:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

@DMacks: Indefinite template-edit protection on a template transcluded only 75 times does not really hit the "highly used" watermark for me, especially when I can see only two instances of vandalism. Would you consider downgrading the protection either to EC or semi? --Izno (talk) 01:33, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-05T01:33:00.000Z","author":"Izno","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Izno-2020-03-05T01:33:00.000Z-Randy_Kryn-2020-03-04T05:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-DMacks-2020-03-05T02:48:00.000Z-Izno-2020-03-05T01:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

I knocked it down to semi. At the time, we were having a problem with an LTA who knew how to play the autoconfirmed game, so it needed to be more than that and also DENY of them. DMacks (talk) 02:48, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-05T02:48:00.000Z","author":"DMacks","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-DMacks-2020-03-05T02:48:00.000Z-Izno-2020-03-05T01:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Izno-2020-03-05T03:19:00.000Z-DMacks-2020-03-05T02:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yeah, it looked like you were trying to stop an LTA (I think the porn LTA was also that timeframe). --Izno (talk) 03:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-05T03:19:00.000Z","author":"Izno","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Izno-2020-03-05T03:19:00.000Z-DMacks-2020-03-05T02:48:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->