Template talk:Hetmans of Ukraine

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Ground of ambiguity

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I realize that this template was created with the best intentions, but because the question is not not simple, I am afraid of its harm.

Firstly, are we talking about the Hetmans of the Dnieper Cossacks only? The title suggests the wider scope and calls for Pavlo Skoropadsky and even Viktor Yushchenko to be included. For obvious reasons, these two relatively modern Ukrainian leaders do not belong to the same template as Orlyk and Doroshenko.

There is, however, a deeper issue best exemplified in Taras Fedorovych who I respect a whole lot but still... He was proclaimed hetman by the unregistered cossacks. Does it make him a hetman unquestionably enough for a template?

The latter issue is very similar to the Church hierarchs. Do the figures of uncanonical churches (no matter how respected) belong to the Orthodoxy template? These questions are not simple.

It is difficult to settle them within a template but quite easy to settle within the articles were we are not as much space-constrained.

I think this template should be renamed and thoroughly reworked if kept, but for now removed from articles. Categories would do the trick. --Irpen 21:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-01T21:15:00.000Z","author":"Irpen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Irpen-2007-09-01T21:15:00.000Z-Ground_of_ambiguity","replies":["c-Kuban_kazak-2008-07-11T11:05:00.000Z-Irpen-2007-09-01T21:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

I would settle on Hetamns of Deniper Cossacks. --Kuban Cossack 11:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-11T11:05:00.000Z","author":"Kuban kazak","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Kuban_kazak-2008-07-11T11:05:00.000Z-Irpen-2007-09-01T21:15:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Kuban Cossack"}}-->

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