Template talk:Dedham

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@Slugger O'Toole, this template does not conform with WP:NAVBOX. Navigation templates are not to be used to list all articles with any passing mention to a subject. It is not a collection of loosely related articles. This needs to be severely pruned. MB 15:31, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221008153100","author":"MB","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MB-20221008153100-Template_bloat","replies":["c-MB-20221008163800-MB-20221008153100"]}}-->

I already cleaned this up once. WP:NAVBOX is the same as WP:SIDEBAR. This is the same misuse of a navigation template. You put this on Samuel Dexter. The only mention of Dedham in that article is to say that Dexter is the grandson of a minister in Dedham. This is completely wrong. MB 16:38, 8 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221008163800","author":"MB","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-MB-20221008163800-MB-20221008153100","replies":["c-Slugger_O'Toole-20221016164500-MB-20221008163800"]}}-->
You're right, MB. There are three Samuel Dexters and I mixed them up. However, I would say that the template would be appropriate on the pages of the father and the grandfather, both of whom were prominent residents. Do you agree? Also, I think the NavBox is a more appropriate template than the sidebar. By your reversions, though, we now have a sidebar side style box at the bottom of some pages. I don't want to edit war so, if you don't object, I would like to revert to the navbox style and be a bit more judicious in the pages to which it goes, including following BIDI. Would this work for you? -- Slugger O'Toole (talk) 16:45, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221016164500","author":"Slugger O'Toole","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Slugger_O'Toole-20221016164500-MB-20221008163800","replies":["c-MB-20221016165600-Slugger_O'Toole-20221016164500"]}}-->
@Slugger O'Toole, I don't really care if it is a Sidebar or Navbox. Just follow BIDI and remember not to fill it up with "the articles are likely loosely related" - only topics that have a strong tie to Dexter (and are likely mentioned in the main article) belong. MB 16:56, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221016165600","author":"MB","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-MB-20221016165600-Slugger_O'Toole-20221016164500","replies":["c-MB-20221016201500-MB-20221016165600"]}}-->
@Slugger O'Toole, you're still not getting it. An article has to be about some aspect of Dedham or have some content about Dedham to be included in the template. Not just mention it. I just removed the movies that had some filming done in Dedham. Look at Detroit (film) for example. It has two nav templates that are about films. If we added more for every subject that had something to do with the movie there would be hundreds. Can't you see how this is WP:UNDUE and just extraneous clutter. Dedham is no more important to this film that any of the other bluelinks in the article. MB 20:15, 16 October 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20221016201500","author":"MB","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-MB-20221016201500-MB-20221016165600","replies":[]}}-->