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Explanation needed

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It would be really great if this page would explain if X Windows system allows for a X application to show up on the Mac desktop just like any other "native" application. Or, is this a septate desktop? What I am getting at is, how does this work from the users perspective? Dfeig 18:35, 13 November 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-11-13T18:35:00.000Z","author":"Dfeig","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dfeig-2006-11-13T18:35:00.000Z-Explanation_needed","replies":[]}}-->

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Download

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where do you download x11 for mac os x 10.4.4? they say it's on the CD, but I don't have that cd anymore.. nowhere to download it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conchis (talk • contribs) 22:53, 17 December 2005

First, sign your posts, Conchis. Second, Wikipedia talk pages are not supposed to be help forums. Third, I will help you anyway, by leaving a message on your talk page. BDWill Talk Contribs 08:23, 29 March 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-03-29T08:23:00.000Z","author":"B.D.Will","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-B.D.Will-2006-03-29T08:23:00.000Z-Download","replies":["c-192.58.221.248-2007-09-19T16:51:00.000Z-B.D.Will-2006-03-29T08:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"BDWill"}}-->

Download it from here: http://cjmart.in/2006/12/01/install-x11-on-tiger-without-the-tiger-install-dvd/ --192.58.221.248 16:51, 19 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-09-19T16:51:00.000Z","author":"192.58.221.248","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-192.58.221.248-2007-09-19T16:51:00.000Z-B.D.Will-2006-03-29T08:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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X11.app required

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Certain applications require X11.app (or other X Window compatibility) to run on Mac OS X. Some examples include:

Are there other notable examples? Should a list like this be included in the article? —204.42.24.75 04:39, 14 May 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-05-14T04:39:00.000Z","author":"204.42.24.75","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-204.42.24.75-2006-05-14T04:39:00.000Z-X11.app_required","replies":["c-David_Gerard-2006-08-21T13:50:00.000Z-204.42.24.75-2006-05-14T04:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

Possssssssssssssibly. OTOH, the next version of GTK+ will apparently be Quartz-native, meaning OOo and Gimp won't need X11. (The Quartz code is alpha-to-early-beta at present, meaning apps using it will sometimes actually start before crashing ;-) - David Gerard 13:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-08-21T13:50:00.000Z","author":"David Gerard","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-David_Gerard-2006-08-21T13:50:00.000Z-204.42.24.75-2006-05-14T04:39:00.000Z","replies":["c-A_plague_of_rainbows-2007-12-13T16:14:00.000Z-David_Gerard-2006-08-21T13:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

imo including a list like that is opening a can of worms.. there are lots of X apps. —Preceding unsigned comment added by A plague of rainbows (talk • contribs) 16:14, 13 December 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-12-13T16:14:00.000Z","author":"A plague of rainbows","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-A_plague_of_rainbows-2007-12-13T16:14:00.000Z-David_Gerard-2006-08-21T13:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-ScotXW-2014-05-21T15:02:00.000Z-A_plague_of_rainbows-2007-12-13T16:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

The support for windowing systems such as X11, Wayland or Quartz (see article display server), is usually included in the toolkit: GTK+, Qt, wxWidgets, GNUstep, etc. Programs written with GTK+2/Qt3 will require XQuartz or an equivalent program to run on OS X, if the support for Quartz has only been added to GTK+3/Qt 4. User:ScotXW^t@lk 15:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-05-21T15:02:00.000Z","author":"ScotXW","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-ScotXW-2014-05-21T15:02:00.000Z-A_plague_of_rainbows-2007-12-13T16:14:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"User:ScotXW"}}-->

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X.org?

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The general trend for other distros is to move away from XFree86 towards X.org, mostly because that is where all the active extension development is occurring. What are Apple's future plans for X11.app? --IanOsgood 03:18, 18 October 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-10-18T03:18:00.000Z","author":"IanOsgood","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-IanOsgood-2006-10-18T03:18:00.000Z-X.org?","replies":[]}}-->

XQuartz/etc, has had its own mailing list for several years, and is, for example, no more "led" by X.Org than Cygwin or the various Linux- and BSD-ports. TEDickey (talk) 23:36, 14 September 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-09-14T23:36:00.000Z","author":"Tedickey","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tedickey-2016-09-14T23:36:00.000Z-X.org?","replies":[]}}-->

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Name change

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I disagree with the articles current title. Putting .app at the end of the application's title usually leads to a redirect to application name (application) or application name (software) (for example Safari.app or Address Book.app), therefore I say the article should be moved to X11 (application) or X11 (software).

If no one has any objections I'll make the move myself on 20 October, 2008. stevenrasnick 10:02 (UTC) 19 October, 2008

I'd move it to XQuartz, X11.app no longer exists as of Mountain Lion. Mauro Bieg (talk) 21:45, 14 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2012-08-14T21:45:00.000Z","author":"Mauro Bieg","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mauro_Bieg-2012-08-14T21:45:00.000Z-Name_change","replies":[]}}-->

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Requested move

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The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was moved. --BDD (talk) 19:41, 8 January 2014 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2014-01-08T19:41:00.000Z","author":"BDD","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-BDD-2014-01-08T19:41:00.000Z-Requested_move","replies":[]}}-->

X11.app → XQuartz – X11.app no longer exists in recent versions of OS X, the project name was changed to XQuartz. Eladts (talk) 16:18, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-23T16:18:00.000Z","author":"Eladts","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Eladts-2013-12-23T16:18:00.000Z-Requested_move","replies":["c-JIP-2013-12-23T19:09:00.000Z-Eladts-2013-12-23T16:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Weak support. I'm not a Mac user, but my sister is. Despite this, I know a lot more about UNIX-compatible systems than she does. So therefore, I don't know which term is actually preferred in the Mac user community, but if the official name is now XQuartz, then that's what I think the article should be named after. JIP | Talk 19:09, 23 December 2013 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2013-12-23T19:09:00.000Z","author":"JIP","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-JIP-2013-12-23T19:09:00.000Z-Eladts-2013-12-23T16:18:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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"XQuartz is an open-source effort to develop a version of the X.Org X Window System that runs on OS X" While it is true Apple provides the old X11 code technically Xquartz has grown past that and can be considered its own thing--174.99.238.22 (talk) 17:10, 27 December 2019 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-12-27T17:10:00.000Z","author":"174.99.238.22","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-174.99.238.22-2019-12-27T17:10:00.000Z-XQuartz_is_open_source_not_an_Apple_exclusive_program","replies":[]}}-->

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no 64-bit executable available

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A recent edit asserts that no 64-bit executable is available for XQuartz. However, the file program says something different:

$ pwd
/Applications/Utilities/XQuartz.app/Contents/MacOS
$ file X11.bin
X11.bin: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [i386:Mach-O executable i386] [x86_64]
X11.bin (for architecture i386):        Mach-O executable i386
X11.bin (for architecture x86_64):      Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64

As usual, a reliable source would be needed to support that edit TEDickey (talk) 13:03, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-29T13:03:00.000Z","author":"Tedickey","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tedickey-2020-03-29T13:03:00.000Z-no_64-bit_executable_available","replies":["c-Guy_Harris-2020-03-29T20:37:00.000Z-Tedickey-2020-03-29T13:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Given that I just punched a card on x026 on my Catalina machine (and, no, it wasn't modified to use native Quartz), any source claiming XQuartz doesn't work on Catalina is rather unreliable. Guy Harris (talk) 20:37, 29 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-03-29T20:37:00.000Z","author":"Guy Harris","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Guy_Harris-2020-03-29T20:37:00.000Z-Tedickey-2020-03-29T13:03:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->