The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by AirshipJungleman29 talk 01:10, 14 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240114011000","author":"AirshipJungleman29","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AirshipJungleman29-20240114011000-Did_you_know_nomination","replies":[]}}-->

• ... that Sandra Elkin discussing basic information on women's topics on Woman "radicalized" women into supporting women's rights? Source: "Women viewers gain confidence after watching 'Woman' program" - The Roanoke Times
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/25 Water Street

Created by Thriley (talk) and Silver seren (talk). Nominated by Silver seren (talk) at 20:57, 10 December 2023 (UTC). Post-promotion hook changes for this nom will be logged at Template talk:Did you know nominations/Sandra Elkin; consider watching this nomination, if it is successful, until the hook appears on the Main Page.[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231210205700","author":"Silver seren","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Silver_seren-20231210205700-Did_you_know_nomination","replies":["c-Silver_seren-20231210205800-Silver_seren-20231210205700"],"displayName":"Silver\u00a0seren"}}-->

• If you have any suggestions for Alt hooks, Thriley, please feel free to add them. Silverseren^C 20:58, 10 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231210205800","author":"Silver seren","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Silver_seren-20231210205800-Silver_seren-20231210205700","replies":[],"displayName":"Silver"}}-->

Overall: The phrasing in the hook makes it sound like women were radicalized into supporting issues, as opposed to acting against them. A more appropriate phrasing might be this:

• ALT1: ... that Sandra Elkin discussing basic information on women's topics on Woman "radicalized" women into supporting women's rights?
  CJ-Moki (talk) 21:51, 11 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231211215100","author":"CJ-Moki","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CJ-Moki-20231211215100-Did_you_know_nomination","replies":["c-Silver_seren-20231212004900-CJ-Moki-20231211215100"]}}-->

I've gone ahead and just removed the last word in the main hook, since it's not really a suggestion for an entirely alternative hook, but just that one word. And I agree with your reasoning on removing it, CJ-Moki. Does that work? Silverseren^C 00:49, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231212004900","author":"Silver seren","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Silver_seren-20231212004900-CJ-Moki-20231211215100","replies":["c-CJ-Moki-20231212005600-Silver_seren-20231212004900"],"displayName":"Silver"}}-->

@Silver seren: Yes, that works. CJ-Moki (talk) 00:56, 12 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231212005600","author":"CJ-Moki","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-CJ-Moki-20231212005600-Silver_seren-20231212004900","replies":["c-AirshipJungleman29-20240110210400-CJ-Moki-20231212005600"]}}-->

@Silver seren and CJ-Moki: there are four occasions of women's/Woman/women in a seventeen word sentence. Any way we could decrease the repetition a little? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:04, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240110210400","author":"AirshipJungleman29","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-AirshipJungleman29-20240110210400-CJ-Moki-20231212005600","replies":["c-CJ-Moki-20240110211300-AirshipJungleman29-20240110210400"],"displayName":"~~ AirshipJungleman29"}}-->

@Silver seren and AirshipJungleman29: I think this might work:

• ALT2: ... that Sandra Elkin discussing basic information on women's topics on Woman "radicalized" viewers into supporting feminism?

CJ-Moki (talk) 21:13, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240110211300","author":"CJ-Moki","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-CJ-Moki-20240110211300-AirshipJungleman29-20240110210400","replies":["c-Silver_seren-20240110230500-CJ-Moki-20240110211300"]}}-->

If you'd like, CJ-Moki. I kinda did the repetition of woman and women on purpose because I thought it made the hook more fun and interesting. Silverseren^C 23:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240110230500","author":"Silver seren","type":"comment","level":7,"id":"c-Silver_seren-20240110230500-CJ-Moki-20240110211300","replies":["c-CJ-Moki-20240110235500-Silver_seren-20240110230500"],"displayName":"Silver"}}-->

@Silver seren and AirshipJungleman29: I actually agree and prefer ALT1 over ALT2. CJ-Moki (talk) 23:55, 10 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240110235500","author":"CJ-Moki","type":"comment","level":8,"id":"c-CJ-Moki-20240110235500-Silver_seren-20240110230500","replies":["c-AirshipJungleman29-20240111000300-CJ-Moki-20240110235500"]}}-->

Ok, I'll promote ALT1 but I can't guarantee it won't be changed. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:03, 11 January 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240111000300","author":"AirshipJungleman29","type":"comment","level":9,"id":"c-AirshipJungleman29-20240111000300-CJ-Moki-20240110235500","replies":[],"displayName":"~~ AirshipJungleman29"}}-->