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Russia annexed DLNR in September 2022. It is now integrating the militias into the Southern Military District of the RuAF.
There is no longer a DPR ministry of defence, so its emblem should be removed from the infobox. Maybe the LNR militia emblem should be removed too for balance, and pending we identify some appropriate sourced, current imagery. Any thoughts? —MichaelZ.18:27, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230206182700","author":"Mzajac","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mzajac-20230206182700-Infobox_images","replies":["c-Mzajac-20230206182900-Mzajac-20230206182700"],"displayName":"Michael"}}-->
Come to think of it, “supreme commander-in-chief,” “commanders of the people's militia directorate,” and “foreign suppliers” likely don’t make sense any more. —MichaelZ.18:29, 6 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230206182900","author":"Mzajac","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mzajac-20230206182900-Mzajac-20230206182700","replies":[],"displayName":"Michael"}}-->
Militaryland.net does not pass WP:BLPSPS, I will be removing all citations by them in this article, please do not re-add them. Scu ba (talk) 20:54, 30 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230430205400","author":"Scu ba","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Scu_ba-20230430205400-militaryland.net","replies":[]}}-->
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I would like to speak against the normalizing propaganda's agenda on the Wikipedia by treating such a terms like "people's" as the legitimate description of the reality. Those militias are not grassroots, they are obviously inspired and controlled by the services of the Russian Federation. Thus, the article should be renamed. Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 07:53, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230807075300","author":"Wojs\u0142aw Bro\u017cyna","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wojs\u0142aw_Bro\u017cyna-20230807075300-\"People's_militias\"","replies":["c-Mzajac-20230807150600-Wojs\u0142aw_Bro\u017cyna-20230807075300"]}}-->
That is a fair point. But using their full proper names would lead to a very long title: Donetsk People's Republic People's Militia and Luhansk People's Republic People's Militia (but I’m not necessarily against using it). They used to be collectively called Russian-backed militias, Russian-led separatists, or some such in a lot of media, but that started to disappear in 2019 or so. A problem is that since they are no longer recognized as ever having been independent actors (right from 2014), they are simply not referred to directly very much, and lumped in with Russian forces except where specific military units or formations are referred to.
It would be a good idea to survey sources over the last 18 months when considering renaming. —MichaelZ.15:06, 7 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230807150600","author":"Mzajac","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Mzajac-20230807150600-Wojs\u0142aw_Bro\u017cyna-20230807075300","replies":["c-Scu_ba-20240214181800-Mzajac-20230807150600"],"displayName":"Michael"}}-->
I've found a far easier solution. Scu ba (talk) 18:18, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240214181800","author":"Scu ba","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Scu_ba-20240214181800-Mzajac-20230807150600","replies":[]}}-->