Talk:Rosinco

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1918 to 1925 Ownership

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The U.S. registry information from 1919 through 1924 does not clearly indicate the ownership change involving W. L. Baum. The name change to Whitemarsh is clear, there is an odd shift of home port to New Orleans in the 1923 registry, which also still shows Stotesbury as owner. In the 1924 registry, page 89, Whitemarsh with all characteristics identical is shown with home port of New Orleans and owner as E. W. Marland — not before mentioned. Clear ownership change and the final data of Rosinco with Morse as owner and home port of Chicago finally shows in the 1925 register, pages 126—127. A distinct possibility is that Baum chartered, not owned, the vessel between Stotesbury and Morse. The yachting magazines, news and other contemporary sources of the time show many yachts spending a number of years under charter to an individual to later be bought by that person or sold to another. It is very common in cases where either the owner grows too old, busy or otherwise occupied or, quite often, builds a new larger, finer yacht to offer a yacht for charter. In those cases ownership in the register is unchanged, even though popular press pieces may connect a well known yacht with the chartering party. Obviously the yacht became Whitemarsh and got to the Great Lakes with Baum being involved. It is the 1918-1925 ownership that is a question.

The E. W. Marland hint is interesting. The Wikipedia article on his mansion notes:

  • The Boat House is the location of a large underground wine cellar that is accessed by a safe door. It also functioned as a storage area for the boats that were used for the enjoyment of guest and family. Once on the edge of one of five lakes on the estate, this body of water along with three other lakes, and the T-shaped Olympic-sized pool, were filled in by a successive owner. Lake Whitemarsh is the only remaining lake, and named after Marland's yacht, which in turn was named for a lake in Marland's hometown of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

The same Whitemarsh ex Georgiana III and that listed in the register? A previous or later yacht bearing the name as was often the case? Perhaps something conclusive will turn up. Palmeira (talk) 20:42, 4 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-04T20:42:00.000Z","author":"Palmeira","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Palmeira-2021-04-04T20:42:00.000Z-1918_to_1925_Ownership","replies":[]}}-->

E. W. Marland was probably the owner after Stotesbury. Registers show Stotesbury until Marland. The book Life and Death of an Oilman: The Career of E.W. Marland by John Joseph Mathews states Marland bought Georgiana III from Stotesbury in 1921. That generally fits registry. I increasingly suspect, though not source confirms, Baum was a charterer of the yacht. Another reference describes Marland's love and use of Whitemarsh including a visit to the Kentucky Derby aboard. New accounts mention the visit to the Derby and the yacht. Palmeira (talk) 02:35, 5 April 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-04-05T02:35:00.000Z","author":"Palmeira","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Palmeira-2021-04-05T02:35:00.000Z-1918_to_1925_Ownership","replies":[]}}-->

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