Talk:Post (Björk album)/GA2

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Reviewer: FunkMonk (talk · contribs) 10:59, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z-GA_Review","replies":["c-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z","c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z","c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z-1","c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z-2","c-FunkMonk-2017-04-17T15:13:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi, this has waited quite a while already, but I'll review it soon. May be my favourite Björk album. FunkMonk (talk) 10:59, 6 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
"charting highly in the UK, Scotland, Finland, Australia and Ireland; it reached the 9th spot of the US Bubbling Under Hot 100 Singles." Needs a source.
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"For this record, Björk incorporated songs omitted from her Manchester sessions with 808 State's Graham Massey, which had preceded the recording sessions for Debut." I'm not sure what's meant by this sentence. She incorporated songs she had written before recording Debut, and omitted from the sessions for what? For Debut?
- I meant the songs were omitted from Debut, not the sessions. Should I rewrite it?

I think it would be good to clarify it. FunkMonk (talk) 22:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-1","c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-2","c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-3"]}}-->

What about: "For this record, Björk incorporated shelved songs she wrote in Manchester with 808 State's Graham Massey, which had preceded the recording sessions for Debut."?

"they had been part of a circle of anarchist poets in Reykjavík called Medusa and had met the singer while she was a member of KUKL." Who does "they" refer to?
- Björk, Þór Eldon and Sjón.

Perhaps clarify? FunkMonk (talk) 22:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Fixed

There are many duplicate links throughout.
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Should Einar Orn have his name spelled out and linked under credits? He is linked elsewhere.
- Fixed
I think you could give dates for the various views and quotes form critics, so we can now whether they are contemporary or retrospective. May create clutter though.
- I added the dates of several quotes.
"n his book Jung and the Postmodern: The Interpretation of Realities, Christopher Hauke considered the "trick" to be a case of postmodernism" What does "trick" refer to here? The sound effect mentioned in the previous sentence?
- Yes, the sound effect: "'the odd scratchings at the end' of the track."

I think this could be clarified. FunkMonk (talk) 22:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-1","replies":[]}}-->

I believe it's now clarified.

"Stéphane/"Stephane" should be consistent, and not linked four times.
- Fixed
"the destruction of over 100,000 copies of the album" Why?
- I added more information on Rimbaud's lawsuit.
" who lunged at Kaufman knocking her to the ground" Perhaps mention this was televised.
- Fixed
"López sent the package to Björk's" You haven't presented "the package" before this, so it appears some clarification is needed.
- Fixed
"containing a performance at Shepherds Bush Empire" Performance of what, the album?
- Added more information.
"limited edition of Debut and Post together as one compilation" On one disc?
- No, as a compilation of two separate CDs.
You there, Bleff?
- I am now, sorry about the delay!
"Post "came fully equipped" with six music videos" Who are you quoting, and what does it mean to be "fully equipped with music videos"?
- I'm quoting Eric Henderson from Slant. Meaning that the music videos accompanied the release and later promotion of the album, sort of acknowledging their impact in the album's reception.
A good deal about the detail of the music videos under "promotion" are repeated in the section about the videos, so I think much of it could be cut down to avoid repetition.
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The music video section seems extremely detailed, compared with sections about the album itself. Isn't much of this detail better elft for the articles about the individual songs?
- I wanted the article's content to extend beyond just the album, taking the record rather as a main theme to describe this period of her career. Kind of a "Post era" article, if you will. I was following a similar thing I did in the article for Vespertine, with a section dedicated to the music videos, but Post's has twice the amount of clips to talk about. Should I remove a couple of sentences per video?

It just seems a tad too detailed. Not a deal breaker for me, but may be a problem during a potential FAC. In any case, if you remove text, remember to add it to the article about individual songs, so that it isn't lost. FunkMonk (talk) 22:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-2","replies":[]}}-->

Sure, I'll add anything that I remove from the section to the individual articles. Thank you.

"MusicHound awarded the album two out of five stars.[167]" Given the praise listed before this, could it be elaborated why?
- I got MusicHound's score via Acclaimed Music, and added the sentence to "balance" a little bit the praise that came before. But I couldn't find the review online so I can't really quote the author.
"of their use as an auteur art medium." Only stated explicitly in the intro, which should have no unique info.
- I rewrote the sentence to: "The acclaimed music videos that accompanied every single heavily aided Björk's success, and have been noted for its surrealism, thematic focus on the relationship between nature and technology, and artistic legitimation of the medium." What do you think about it?

Anything that's closer to what the article body states is better than before. FunkMonk (talk) 22:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-3","replies":[]}}-->

"and a stalker failed to murder her" Likewise, but related to an earlier issue.
- I don't quite understand what you mean, that I only reference that in the intro?

You hadn't mentioned he tried to murder her outside the intro when I wrote that. But now you imply it by saying he sent a bomb. FunkMonk (talk) 22:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z-1","replies":[]}}-->

"one of Björk's most idiosyncratic releases" Likewise.
- I considered that this was not only stated in the intro because the "Composition" section reads: "It is considered by some to be the "quintessential Björk" release, due to its protean form - more than any of her other albums - and its "wide emotional palette"." Too vague?

Though "protean" and "idiosyncratic" kind of means the same, I think it's unnecessary to use different terms in the intro and the article body. FunkMonk (talk) 22:28, 14 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-14T22:28:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z-2","replies":[]}}-->

I replaced it with "... Post is now considered one of Björk's quintessential releases..."

The new clarifications look great, so I'll go ahead and pass. I assume the plan is to get all Björk albums to GA? FunkMonk (talk) 15:13, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T15:13:00.000Z","author":"FunkMonk","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-FunkMonk-2017-04-17T15:13:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-06T10:59:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bleff-2017-04-17T19:59:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-17T15:13:00.000Z"]}}-->
- Great, thanks! Yes, hopefully.--Bleff (talk) 19:59, 17 April 2017 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2017-04-17T19:59:00.000Z","author":"Bleff","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bleff-2017-04-17T19:59:00.000Z-FunkMonk-2017-04-17T15:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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