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The use of Category:Pedophilia on this article considered offensive and defamatory as lolisho is not considered pedophilic, and I would like to see it removed from the article as such category is considered extremely charged in this context.

Disclaimer: Like most people I condemn pedophilia, and any claims to the contrary are considered highly defamatory and are therefore reportable to site administration. AbleistSL (talk) 14:08, 14 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

Do you always announce which categories you add or remove in an article's talk page? Volunteer editors do not typically ask for permission. Dimadick (talk) 17:03, 14 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

I can't edit it because the page is protected, someone else will have to do it. Disregard my last post I was confused by a notice on the site, I will make the edit myself. AbleistSL (talk) 20:46, 15 May 2025 (UTC)Reply

A friend mentioned to me that during a recent edit war on march 9 2026, while fighting to remove a picture, Meow also snuck in an additional edit - readding this category. while the picture was readded and Meow was warned, the change they snuck in there regarding the category managed to slip through the cracks.

can someone please remove the category again? I'd do it myself, but I honestly forgot I even had an account on wikipedia and feel making a change on a controversial page without any personal credibility is disingenuous.

edit: eh, guess I'll just do it myself nvm, I actually can't edit it myself anyway Ridesdragons (talk) 12:23, 4 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

I concur, deleting that sneakily added category seems prudent. Although there is some debate to be had over whether that category applies, as of right now, it should be removed. SIMSIMCITY (talk) 18:18, 12 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

Removed per status quo, but this merits a discussion. Skyshiftertalk 02:47, 16 May 2026 (UTC)Reply

It looks like someone silently added the categories back in again. Assuming good faith has limits.

Professionals who work with paraphilias & paraphiliac disorders outright state that lolicon is not a desire for real girls or women. Adding categories like this maliciously misleads and misinforms people.

This is unequivocal and repeated vandalism, as Issac I Navarro has also attempted a removal of File:Hakurei Shrine Reitaisai in Taiwan 3 (1).jpg violating the WP:NOTCENSORED policy. ~2026-43529-97 (talk) 19:02, 6 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

Reminder. WP:CAT

“Even if an article may occupy the grey areas of a category's inclusion criteria, that is not a valid reason to keep the article in a category. If a particular article does not fit the inclusion criteria of a category, then the article simply should not be added to it.”

Frankly speaking, the average person is completely uninformed on this subject and should not be editing articles for which they have little to no understanding of if they are unwilling to do any research on the topic. ~2026-43529-97 (talk) 19:08, 6 August 2026 (UTC)Reply

The revision to the article on May 3rd, 2026 at 16:22 includes a large paragraph added to the section "1990s-Present" which brings up irrelevant topics related to junior idols in Japan. This paragraph also has zero citations.

I think this paragraph, in addition to not being high quality on its own due to lack of citations, simply should not be present on an article about a different topic. TransMagicalGirl (talk) 22:01, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

The information is not presented in a way which clearly communicates its relationship with the anime and manga subgenre. If not removed then it should be edited to more clearly link to article topic VivianaAnime (talk) 22:17, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

There is also a lack of English language sourcing in the relevant section which reduces the articles utility towards someone genuinely interested in the subject who does not speak Japanese. Other parts of the article use Garlbraith and other English language sources. While I understand that an article about a Japanese subgenre is going to have to use Japanese language sources sometimes surely it would be possible to find English language sources for the relevant paragraphs in the history section. VivianaAnime (talk) 22:29, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

In the background section it is claimed that "The foundational concept of the "Lolita complex" was introduced to the Japanese public via the 1959 translation of Vladimir Nabokov's 1955 novel Lolita by , followed by the 1962 domestic release of Stanley Kubrick's film adaptation,"

However the term Lolita Complex is not in either work mentioned. It's origin as detailed in the Etymology section is in Russel Trainer's "The Lolita Complex" translated into Japanese in 1969. The background section should reflect that information VivianaAnime (talk) 22:26, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

This problem is also in the second paragraph in the article. I believe the article should be consistent about the etymological origin of the term. Something like "derived from Trainer's The Lolita Complex whose title was derived from the novel Lolita" would be more appropriate. I recognize it sounds a bit tortured, I'm sure there's a phrasing that would be pleasant to read and be etymologically accurate. VivianaAnime (talk) 22:58, 7 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I am coming over from Clop (erotic fan art), article's talk page. On that talk page we are discussing removal of an image per WP:GRATUITOUS, among a list of other rational. I have stated my position on that regarding that page's image, File:Hakurei Shrine Reitaisai in Taiwan 3 (1).jpg appears to be worse then the one on the clop page as it depicts actually cartoon kids. Issac I Navarro (talk) 14:14, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I am Courtesy ping: Snow Rise, per their rational for the image on the clop page. While I don't necessarily believe that their rational is apropos per se for the Cuz clop image, it definitely resonates with me for this file. Issac I Navarro (talk) 14:19, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

 You are invited to join the discussion at Talk: Clop (erotic fan art)#Removal of File:Czu_MLP_clop_Wikimare.png (more specifically at Talk: Clop (erotic fan art)#RfC about images on this page ) specifically about the usage of an explicit image for an educational purpose. Issac I Navarro (talk) 14:24, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Keep the image illustrates the market of lolicon doujinshi, which is perfectly reasonable and expected at the lolicon page. It is not an explicit lolicon image in itself (i.e. an explicit drawing like the Czu image), it is a photograph showing doujinshi manga being sold at a doujinshi convention, meant to represent the market for lolicon manga. The manga covers are not that obvious unless you actually zoom in the image, and as far as I can see, explicit parts of the covers have been censored (as expected in Japan). Skyshiftertalk 14:33, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

What caught my attention was the porn covers on the right I wasn't trying to zoom in to see the censore. Because it looks like a child in an explicit position. Issac I Navarro (talk) 14:38, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I think what matters here is what the photo is trying to convey. This image serves the purpose of illustrating the lolicon doujinshi market in Japan. It is not an explicit drawing for the sake of it (which is what I thought of the Czu image in Clop), it is a photograph of doujinshi lolicon manga being sold at a convention, which has miles of difference. I believe this is a perfect case where WP:GRATUITOUS does not apply and the image actually serves a purpose. Skyshiftertalk 14:43, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Compare this to the image present in Girls' love#2010s–present: Genre diversification. It is literally the same purpose (doujinshi of that genre being sold at a convention). Skyshiftertalk 14:47, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

@Skyshifter On that article, I am not seeing anything explicit or alluding to obvious pornography. There is a photograph of a stand, but at first glance there is nothing inherently explicit. Issac I Navarro (talk) 15:01, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Per WP:NOTCENSORED, being explicit does not mean it's prohibited. In fact, I'm not saying File:Hakurei Shrine Reitaisai in Taiwan 3 (1).jpg doesn't contain explicit elements. I'm saying it serves the same purpose as the image in Girls' love#2010s–present: Genre diversification (which is true), with the explicitness being justified by what I said above: "This image serves the purpose of illustrating the lolicon doujinshi market in Japan. It is not an explicit drawing for the sake of it (which is what I thought of the Czu image in Clop), it is a photograph of doujinshi lolicon manga being sold at a convention, which has miles of difference." The Czu image in Clop was itself outright porn, the image in Lolicon is a photo of manga being sold at a convention (even if explicit). Skyshiftertalk 15:07, 22 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

This edit request by an editor with a partial block was declined.

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The wholesale removal of recent edits across the Etymology and definition, History, and Analysis sections under WP:LLMPRV misapplies local cleanup guidelines to highly specific, source-grounded research. Pursuant to WP:LLMPRVOBJ, a formal objection is entered here on the basis that every single content addition and structural modification introduced in these revisions is anchored directly to page-specific text from the primary literature and targeted manual source maintenance, completely absent of the generalized phrasing or hallucinations typical of automated prose. The modifications systematically resolved long-standing errors, starting with the correction of the translation of Eiji Ōtsuka's 1989 title Shōjo minzokugaku (少女民俗学) from the conceptually flawed "Native Ethnology of Girls" to "Folkloristics of the Girl." This distinction is critical under WP:V, as the original translation conflated the study of folk customs (民俗学) with its homophone for ethnic groups (民族学). Alongside this, standard cleanup measures were applied to the Galbraith citation to resolve an orphaned short footnote template, fix a terminal punctuation collision using the postscript parameter and wikilink Japanese economic miracle to establish precise historical and economic framing. The content expansions themselves replace superficial summaries with precise data points directly verified against the raw text of the underlying volumes. In the Etymology and definition section, the added material reconstructs the precise linguistic trajectory of the nomenclature and chronicles the "ironic adoption" of the Lolita complex concept by early fandom, tracing how early adopters self-consciously applied the pop-psychological diagnosis to differentiate their media consumption from normative maturation and mainstream adult sexuality. It further maps the core sociology of the shōjo archetype to provide the necessary structural context for its subcultural resonance. In the History section, introducing the "dreaming boy" (yumemiru shōnen) aesthetic captures the exact mechanics of late-1970s genre cross-pollination, while the elaboration on "idealized Eros" explains how the archetype embraced a "latent asexuality" to resist patriarchal reproductive expectations, explicitly supported by precise page numbers from the 1989 Ōtsuka text (pp. 18–20, 44, 200–201). In the Analysis section, the addition corrects a significant omission by introducing Ōtsuka's explicit 2004 critique from "Otaku" no seishinshi (p. 89), providing a verified academic counter-perspective to Chizuko Ueno's thesis on male withdrawal. The material accurately tracks his argument that the subcultural adoption of the aesthetic functioned to conceal rather than abandon male power (男の力, otoko no chikara) as detailed on pages 92–98. Reverting these page-referenced adjustments under a generic shortcut flag removes valid scholarship and undermines article depth. These blocks should be restored in full as they strictly satisfy WP:V, WP:RS and WP:MOS-JA.

Ryoske (talk) 15:02, 29 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

Note to other editors, as this content was removed via LLM presumptive removal, it may only be restored if the steps described at the objection process are followed. This means another editor may assume responsibility for the content which requires first that all content and its sources be closely reviewed, and reworked as needed, to ensure that they comply with polices and guidelines. This means that all content and sources must be checked and corrected to ensure there are no V, OR, NPOV, MOS, etc problems. fifteen thousand two hundred twenty four (talk) 01:55, 30 June 2026 (UTC)Reply

I feel we are missing archetypes like the mesugaki (メスガキ) , or just gaki archetypes in general (they're kinda like -dere archetypes but for lolicon lol) like the kusogaki, masegaki, erogaki, ect, from the article, as well as notes on archetypes such as the loli kyonyuu (ロリ巨乳), sometimes more lazily referred to as the "oppai loli", and the history behind it. I feel like more needs to be looked into these.

We thankfully got "lolibaba" into the article, so further inclusion and elaboration on lolicon specific tropes should be considered imo. Samalik16 (talk) 04:30, 30 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Edit: I found something mentioning "kyonyuu loli" in an academic setting. I dunno if it's good enough to add to the article but hear you go. https://digrajapan.org/conf2015/digraj_conf2015_proc.pdf

The context appears to be this: The Japan Society for Digital Games (日本デジタルゲーム学会): In their formal publication DiGRA Japan 2015 Conference Proceedings (PDF), researchers tracked the evolution of user avatars and terminology dating back to the late 1990s and early 2000s. Their text-mining analysis explicitly captures the phrase 「可能な限りロリ巨乳」 (Loli Kyonyuu as much as possible) when chronicling how Japanese internet board users categorized character archetypes during the rise of early online communication