I added an entry for Hugh Nelson, ambassador to Spain. I am not sure how to NOT link to an article for another person with that same name. There is no article on Hugh Nelson, I don't think. I am aware of the problem and will try to figure it out soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ProfReader (talk • contribs) 00:34, 18 November 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-18T00:34:00.000Z","author":"ProfReader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ProfReader-2009-11-18T00:34:00.000Z-Editing_help","replies":[]}}-->
It seems that previous editors have dropped the bar pretty low for making it onto this list. While the list is not specifically named as such, I think the point is to include NOTABLE alumni. In the federal section, I have gone back to previous work by others and tried to include all members of Congress, all cabinet members, all presidents (obviously), and all members of the federal courts.
At the state level, certainly governors should make the list, but I don't really think that state trial court judges are NOTABLE. I'm not even sure that a list of all alums who have served in statehouses is really relevant. Regardless, I struck mere candidates for office and things like that.
In sports, I think the list should be limited to any players in the relevant league (NFL for football, for example), those of special note wherever they played, and coaches. I just think assistant coaches and players from the European Football League are not really notable. I know that WP is not just for American audiences, but playing in the Canadian football league is not really NOTABLE in the field of football. Being the fastest runner in a nursing home doesn't make you a notable track star.
And, note that I am not confusing fame with notability. For example, I have included some old players from the 1920s and 1930s who people today have probably never heard of. Same for early 19th century federal judges. But, in their days, they were at the top of their game. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ProfReader (talk • contribs) 15:53, 20 November 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-20T15:53:00.000Z","author":"ProfReader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ProfReader-2009-11-20T15:53:00.000Z-Discretion_in_making_the_cut","replies":["c-Jrcla2-2009-11-20T19:35:00.000Z-ProfReader-2009-11-20T15:53:00.000Z"]}}-->
I was just updating the info on Sarah Brady based on her obituary with a better reference to the New York Times instead of the Alumni Association's list of notable alumni. I also clicked on that link (dating back to about 2009 at least) to the Alumni Association, and I found that it is now dead. So, I went to the Alumni Association page to see if perhaps the page had just been redesigned. Nope! Instead, the page is completely gone and has been replaced with a link back to this exact same Wikipedia page. That means that several dozen entries on this list now lack any documentation whatsoever (because the sole source had been to the now-circular Alumni Association page). I'm going to suggest that updating those entries to more stable and credible sources would be a good project for anyone who follows this page.ProfReader (talk) 14:56, 4 April 2015 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-04-04T14:56:00.000Z","author":"ProfReader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ProfReader-2015-04-04T14:56:00.000Z-Big_help_needed","replies":[]}}-->
Article states George Washington was a W&M alumnus in the "class of 1754", without citation. Meanwhile the George Washington article doesn't mention him ever having attended any college, plus that article's talk page flatly states he never studied at William & Mary, though he was later the first chancellor of the college. Can someone who can provide a source either way please clear this up? Too Orangey For Crows (talk) 12:30, 5 November 2009 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-05T12:30:00.000Z","author":"Too Orangey For Crows","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Too_Orangey_For_Crows-2009-11-05T12:30:00.000Z-Washington_not_an_alumnus?","replies":["c-68.143.5.138-2009-11-10T15:27:00.000Z-Too_Orangey_For_Crows-2009-11-05T12:30:00.000Z"]}}-->
According to the College, he was. https://alumni.wm.edu/notable_alumni/george_washington.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.144.199.181 (talk) 05:30, 4 June 2010 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-04T05:30:00.000Z","author":"198.144.199.181","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-198.144.199.181-2010-06-04T05:30:00.000Z-Washington_not_an_alumnus?","replies":[]}}-->
I'd like to see an actual reference to the fact he studied at the College at all to get his surveying license. The school administered licenses, but I have never seen any reference to the school's having actual TAUGHT people how to be surveyors in the first place. That might have been so, but I'd like to see a reference to it. Otherwise, my earlier comparison to the DMV stands.ProfReader (talk) 13:49, 29 September 2015 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-29T13:49:00.000Z","author":"ProfReader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ProfReader-2015-09-29T13:49:00.000Z-Washington_not_an_alumnus?","replies":[]}}-->
Here is what one source had to say about the licensing of George Washington: "Washington was only seventeen years old in July 1749 when supervisors from the College of William and Mary named him Surveyor for Culpeper County, Virginia. During this time, a board of representatives from the College appointed surveyors in each county in order to assure their qualifications and, ostensibly, to limit excessive patronage. But in Washington's case, he never went to Williamsburg to receive his appointment, and most historians agree that William Fairfax was responsible for Washington's unlikely assumption of such an important office at so young an age." That's from "A Companion to George Washington" from 2012. Again, I don't think it is accurate to represent him as a student in any way (alumni or not). There is no evidence that he received any instruction in anything at the College. The surveyor office was a quasi-political post. Yes, the College might have administered the offices, but it's not right to claim him as a student at all.ProfReader (talk) 14:05, 29 September 2015 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2015-09-29T14:05:00.000Z","author":"ProfReader","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ProfReader-2015-09-29T14:05:00.000Z-Washington_not_an_alumnus?","replies":[]}}-->
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Add Jason Miyares to State Legislators. JD Degree from W&M and has been in office since 2016 Hulseamber1 (talk) 15:37, 24 July 2018 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2018-07-24T15:37:00.000Z","author":"Hulseamber1","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hulseamber1-2018-07-24T15:37:00.000Z-Semi-protected_edit_request_on_24_July_2018","replies":["c-Cannolis-2018-07-26T08:40:00.000Z-Hulseamber1-2018-07-24T15:37:00.000Z"]}}-->
Could This article be retitled "List of William & Mary alumni." The university calls itself William & Mary now. See branding handbook: http://visualidentity.blogs.wm.edu/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Compressor23 (talk • contribs) 19:04, 17 June 2019 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2019-06-17T19:04:00.000Z","author":"Compressor23","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Compressor23-2019-06-17T19:04:00.000Z-The_College_of_William_and_Mary_no_longer_calls_itself_that._It_calls_itself_Wil","replies":["c-67.176.1.108-2019-10-26T21:59:00.000Z-Compressor23-2019-06-17T19:04:00.000Z"]}}-->
This edit and this edit reverted individuals to a redlinked/empty article status. Some of these people had a previous nolink status (which ennables sorting within the List's table) because they had been redlinked for quite some time. For instance,
David Crank -
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Should he be included on this List as an alumnus of W&M? Shearonink (talk) 16:32, 16 January 2020 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-16T16:32:00.000Z","author":"Shearonink","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shearonink-2020-01-16T16:32:00.000Z-Inclusion_(or_not)_in_list","replies":["c-Magnolia677-2020-01-16T18:34:00.000Z-Shearonink-2020-01-16T16:32:00.000Z"]}}-->
Robin Ashton could be added. GuardianH (talk) 22:17, 30 September 2022 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220930221700","author":"GuardianH","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GuardianH-20220930221700-Robin_Ashton","replies":[]}}-->
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