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Review of H. lupulus article

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This article is pretty well-balanced, providing information on multiple areas about H. lupulus. The introduction provides information on the botanical characteristics of the plant, its region, size, mode of pollination, as well as use. This is a thought-out and balanced description of the plant. It looks like the student added a lot of information both about the growth characteristics of the plant as well as the types of flowers that are produced. The student also added interesting information about the etymology of the name that I thought was unique and that I hadn't known about beforehand. While a lot was added to the description section of the plant, I think this section could have been expanded upon. While phyllotaxy and types of flowers are described, more could have been said about these subjects. Often just a sentence is devoted to descriptions of different parts of the plant. More could have been added specifically to the descriptions of H. lupulus' flowers. The staminate and pistillate flowers are discussed but not in great detail: more could have been added about the number of flower parts (multiples of 3 or 5?) and additional morphological and anatomical information would be helpful. A description of what strobili are would be helpful as well. There is also a very brief mention of contact dermatitis associated with touching hops, but more information should be included. More could also be included about the cultivation of H. lupulus. There are also a few grammar mistakes that are slightly distracting. This isn't a major distractor and the article can still be understood, but copyedits would be helpful. Overall, the article is thought-out, descriptive, and well-balanced, but more information could be included under each of the sections. I think the most interesting part of the article is H. lupulus' uses in brewing, specifically the chemicals that have to do with flavor and preservation. This section could be streamlined and expanded upon, maybe including which flavors each chemical contributes, as well as which chemicals (by name) contribute to preservation.

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Merger proposal

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No consensus. (non-admin closure) CLYDE ^{TALK TO ME}/_{STUFF DONE} (please mention me on reply) 05:10, 2 July 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230702051000","author":"ClydeFranklin","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ClydeFranklin-20230702051000-Merger_proposal","replies":[],"displayName":"CLYDE"}}-->

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Formal request has been received to merge: Hops into [[]]; dated: March 2023. Proposer's Rationale: ,,,with a redirect from Hops. These articles cover the same topic with almost the same information There would be mutual benefit to both from the slightly different perspectives of each. Hops is mostly about the industrial use of Lupulus, which is focussed on the botanic. Ex nihil. Discuss here. GenQuest ^"scribble" 15:56, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230331155600","author":"GenQuest","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GenQuest-20230331155600-Merger_proposal","replies":["c-Ex_nihil-20230331161600-GenQuest-20230331155600","c-Invasive_Spices-20230331161800-GenQuest-20230331155600","c-Ex_nihil-20230403144000-GenQuest-20230331155600","c-ThePetroglyph-20230410172100-GenQuest-20230331155600","c-89.206.112.13-20230503152700-GenQuest-20230331155600","c-BloxyColaSweet-20230521014000-GenQuest-20230331155600"]}}-->

Support for reasons stated. Ex nihil ^(talk) 16:16, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230331161600","author":"Ex nihil","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ex_nihil-20230331161600-GenQuest-20230331155600","replies":[],"displayName":"Ex"}}-->

Botanical characteristics & human brewing use are 2 different things. If there is enough material for both articles… Invasive Spices (talk) 16:18, 31 March 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230331161800","author":"Invasive Spices","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Invasive_Spices-20230331161800-GenQuest-20230331155600","replies":["c-GenQuest-20230402185600-Invasive_Spices-20230331161800"]}}-->

Is that an Oppose, Invasive Spices? GenQuest ^"scribble" 18:56, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230402185600","author":"GenQuest","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-GenQuest-20230402185600-Invasive_Spices-20230331161800","replies":["c-Invasive_Spices-20230402192000-GenQuest-20230402185600"]}}-->

Not if there is excess botanical or brewing text which needs to be removed. You haven't said that however. Invasive Spices (talk) 19:20, 2 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230402192000","author":"Invasive Spices","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Invasive_Spices-20230402192000-GenQuest-20230402185600","replies":[]}}-->

I would suggest that mostly only History and Production in Hops needs to be added to Humulus Lupus, which makes brief mention. The rest overlaps. Neither article is overly long. Ex nihil ^(talk) 14:40, 3 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230403144000","author":"Ex nihil","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ex_nihil-20230403144000-GenQuest-20230331155600","replies":[],"displayName":"Ex"}}-->

Don't Merge It seems to be commonplace on Wikipedia to separate harvests orange (fruit) from their plant citrus × sinensis. This is my first time doing one of these article discussions, so I hope I'm doing this correctly, let me know if I'm doing this right. ThePetroglyph (talk) 17:21, 10 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230410172100","author":"ThePetroglyph","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ThePetroglyph-20230410172100-GenQuest-20230331155600","replies":["c-MrAnmol-20230515154100-ThePetroglyph-20230410172100"]}}-->
- This point should be considered. I am impartial for now.
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Support - Its fruit's cultural, economic and other uses should be part of a plant's article. Were it brought up, I'd support a similar proposal for oranges.--89.206.112.13 (talk) 15:27, 3 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230503152700","author":"89.206.112.13","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-89.206.112.13-20230503152700-GenQuest-20230331155600","replies":[]}}-->
Oppose. Humulus lupulus is an article about a flowering plant in the family Cannabinaceae, whereas the article Hops is about the history and cultivation of the flower. Therefore, both of which separately warrant their own article. BloxyColaSweet (talk) 01:40, 21 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230521014000","author":"BloxyColaSweet","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-BloxyColaSweet-20230521014000-GenQuest-20230331155600","replies":[]}}-->

The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.