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Change “Israel has the third world's largest Druze population” to “Israel has the world’s third largest Druze population” 86.184.200.237 (talk) 06:52, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-03T06:52:00.000Z","author":"86.184.200.237","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-86.184.200.237-2021-06-03T06:52:00.000Z-Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_3_June_2021","replies":["c-ScottishFinnishRadish-2021-06-03T10:49:00.000Z-86.184.200.237-2021-06-03T06:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

 Done ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 10:49, 3 June 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-06-03T10:49:00.000Z","author":"ScottishFinnishRadish","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-ScottishFinnishRadish-2021-06-03T10:49:00.000Z-86.184.200.237-2021-06-03T06:52:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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To remove section about "occupied Golan heights" since they are not occupied AnonyMaus X (talk) 05:25, 19 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-19T05:25:00.000Z","author":"AnonyMaus X","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AnonyMaus_X-2021-07-19T05:25:00.000Z-Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_19_July_2021","replies":["c-ScottishFinnishRadish-2021-07-19T22:09:00.000Z-AnonyMaus_X-2021-07-19T05:25:00.000Z"]}}-->

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The 2nd paragraph of "Demographics" starts with a link on "Israeli Druze", which however just reloads this same article. -- 217.225.252.99 (talk) 08:39, 8 April 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-04-08T08:39:00.000Z","author":"217.225.252.99","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-217.225.252.99-2022-04-08T08:39:00.000Z-Pointless_internal_link","replies":[]}}-->

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In Demographics:

Geographical distribution of the Arabic-speaking Druze population of Israel by statistical area.
Geographycal distribution of the main ethno-cultural communities Haifa and Northern districts

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Geographical distribution of the Arabic-speaking Druze population of Israel by statistical area.[1]
Geographycal distribution of the main ethno-cultural communities Haifa and Northern districts.[1]

Sergey Kondrashov

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Maghar: the second largest Druze town in the Northern District.

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Before the Israeli Declaration of Independence, Druze people were not recognized as a religious community, and were discriminated against by the local judicial system.

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The article introduction says : “Before the Israeli Declaration of Independence, Druze people were not recognized as a religious community, and were discriminated against by the local judicial system.” Citing “Druze Family: A Study Based on Decisions of Druze Arbitrators and Religious Courts in Israel and the Golan Heights. Leiden, The Netherlands: E. J. Brill. p. 12”

This is pure vandalism. because the source neither mention the persecution of druze at all nor talk about anything in that context, the word “discrimination” is only mentioned once in the cited page, and it is talking about the discrimination against woman in religious laws of druze faith as a reason behind why the knesset intervened in the personal status of druze people, That’s the first point.

The second point is what does “Druze people were not recognized as a religious community” what does that even means ?, does it means that Druze were not recognized as Druze ? That’s totally nonsense, because Druze historically were seen as heretic muslim sect and even considered kafirs (non muslims), it’s not like they were forced to be recognized as mainstream muslims because they themselves were regarded as heretics, it’s the exact opposite of what the claim says Chafique (talk) 02:57, 28 February 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230228025700","author":"Chafique","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Chafique-20230228025700-Before_the_Israeli_Declaration_of_Independence,_Druze_people_were_not_recognized","replies":[]}}-->

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Grammar: ...around 54% of Druze respondents said... instead of present ...around 54% of Druze respondents saied... Wikichell (talk) 19:50, 18 May 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230518195000","author":"Wikichell","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wikichell-20230518195000-Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_18_May_2023","replies":["c-Lizthegrey-20230518201200-Wikichell-20230518195000"]}}-->

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Current Content: "Since the adoption of the 1981 Golan Heights Law, the territory has been under Israeli civil law, and incorporated into the Israeli system of local councils.[69] After the annexation of the Golan Heights in 1981, the Israeli government offered citizenship to all non-Israelis living in the territory,[68][70] but (as of 2011), less than 10% of the local Druze accepted it.[71] In 2012, however, due to the Syrian Civil War, dozens of young Druze have applied for Israeli citizenship – a much larger number than in previous years.[72] By 2017, nearly 5,500 out of 26,500 residents had applied for and received an Israeli passport since 1981. The yearly number of applications steadily rose, with 183 applying in 2016, compared to only five in 2000.[73]"

I think these sentences are confusing and somewhat outdated. As the next sentences go on to say, there has been a significant shift in rates of Israeli citizenship amongst Druze in the Golan in the last decade with there now being a bit over 20% with Israeli citizenship.

I think it makes more sense to phrase this sentence in historical terms: "After the annexation of the Golan Heights in 1981, the Israeli government offered citizenship to all non-Israelis living in the territory,[68][70] but initially few Druze accepted it.[71] In 2012, however, due to the Syrian Civil War, dozens of young Druze have applied for Israeli citizenship – a much larger number than in previous years.[72] By 2017, nearly 5,500 out of 26,500 residents had applied for and received an Israeli passport since 1981, approximately 21%. Applications for Israeli citizenship have increased particularly with younger Druze in the Golan."[73]

Here is another source that documents more recent statistics: https://www.shomrim.news/eng/druze-gloan .

It would also be interesting to report how the Druze towns in the Golan voted in the most recent elections, whose results can be found here: https://votes25.bechirot.gov.il/cityresults?cityID=4201 — Preceding unsigned comment added by MLisStam (talkcontribs) 21:49, 14 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240214214900","author":"MLisStam","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MLisStam-20240214214900-Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_14_Feb_2024","replies":[]}}-->

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Quoting Ilan Pappe as an objective source on Israel is extremely concerning. He is a known for being anti Zionist and highly critical of the State of Israel.

How can Wikipedia question the reliability of the ADP, but allow Pappe?!?! 2A0A:EF40:33E:FE01:E4EA:6DE9:6C97:7575 (talk) 17:25, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240728172500","author":"2A0A:EF40:33E:FE01:E4EA:6DE9:6C97:7575","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-2A0A:EF40:33E:FE01:E4EA:6DE9:6C97:7575-20240728172500-Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_28_July_2024","replies":["c-AntiDionysius-20240728172700-2A0A:EF40:33E:FE01:E4EA:6DE9:6C97:7575-20240728172500"]}}-->

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.
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"In 2012, however, due to the Syrian Civil War, dozens of young Druze have applied for Israeli citizenship – a much larger number than in previous years."

"Dozens" isn't a number, and thus can't possibly be known to be "much larger" than any other given year(s). It's POV fluff to make it seem like Druze are flocking to take Israeli citizenship, and as such, the sentence should be deleted until something better written -- and better sourced -- should take its place. 142.126.167.40 (talk) 18:48, 28 July 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240728184800","author":"142.126.167.40","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-142.126.167.40-20240728184800-Extended-confirmed-protected_edit_request_on_28_July_2024_2","replies":[]}}-->

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The 1834 looting of Safed (Hebrew: ביזת צפת בשנת תקצ"ד, 5594 AM) was a month-long attack on the Jewish community of Safed in the Sidon Eyalet of the Ottoman Empire during the Peasants' revolt in Palestine. It began on Sunday, June 15 (7 Sivan), the day after the Jewish holiday of Shavuot, and lasted for 33 days.This was a attack on the Jewish community of Safed by Druze and Muslims as stated in the article ,it should also be added in the history part [1]