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"THE CORRECT NAME IS DATURA MELELOIDES" --- was entered by IP user (user:68.0.154.185 on July 3, 2006 on the article page. Reverted but comment pasted to here. SB Johnny 10:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2006-07-04T10:35:00.000Z","author":"SB Johnny","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-SB_Johnny-2006-07-04T10:35:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What exaactly is the most poisonous part of the plant?Susan Walton 21:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2007-04-02T21:06:00.000Z","author":"Susan Walton","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Susan_Walton-2007-04-02T21:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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"Datura metel is a shrub-like perennial herb, commonly known as angel's trumpet, devil's trumpet, and metel. .... The plant is an annual herb growing up to 3 ft. high."

Now which is it: annual or perennial? Dawright12 (talk) 11:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-04T11:37:00.000Z","author":"Dawright12","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dawright12-2011-10-04T11:37:00.000Z-==","replies":["c-Lou_Sander-2011-10-05T02:30:00.000Z-Dawright12-2011-10-04T11:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

Good question, probaby best resolved by consulting the cited reference(s). I kind of remember that some of these datura species are basically annuals, but that if they develop a good root system and the winters are mild, they will come back the next year. It's been a long time since I looked at this stuff, though. Lou Sander (talk) 02:30, 5 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-10-05T02:30:00.000Z","author":"Lou Sander","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Lou_Sander-2011-10-05T02:30:00.000Z-Dawright12-2011-10-04T11:37:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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What is the basis for the OR tag? I'm tempted to remove it, and will do so if there's no response to this question after a reasonable time. Lou Sander (talk) 14:57, 10 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-11-10T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Lou Sander","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lou_Sander-2011-11-10T14:57:00.000Z-Original_Research?","replies":[]}}-->

Five years (less a month) is long enough. I'm removing it. Lou Sander (talk) 14:00, 9 October 2016 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2016-10-09T14:00:00.000Z","author":"Lou Sander","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Lou_Sander-2016-10-09T14:00:00.000Z-Original_Research?","replies":[]}}-->

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While I cannot supply academic papers to demonstrate this, the translation 'wood' is better understood as 'stem' in context, and one of the symbolic meanings of 'wood' is identical to the american slang (as in "I've got wood"); While there is an abundance of evidence (beyond Siklos) to demonstrate the presence of datura in the pre-colombian indian sub-continent (a simple survey of the prevalence and ubiquity of wild datura vs. actual new world introductions (tomato, chilli, potato, for example) is a physical indicator). However, what Siklos fails to identify from his translation is that the text is a symbolic one written in twilight language: Reading it literally misses its nuanced meaning. There is lots more that can be said about that. 20040302 (talk) 12:10, 14 April 2024 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20240414121000","author":"20040302","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-20040302-20240414121000-Wood","replies":[]}}-->