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Hmm. Do we use normal capitalisation or Dylan's (see album cover)? Rothorpe (talk) 23:17, 30 August 2009 (UTC) - OK...[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-30T23:17:00.000Z","author":"Rothorpe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rothorpe-2009-08-30T23:17:00.000Z-Capitalisation","replies":["c-172.162.95.41-2009-09-03T07:46:00.000Z-Rothorpe-2009-08-30T23:17:00.000Z"]}}-->

Should have used Dylan's. It seems wrong to force a certain rule of capitalization when Dylan clearly chose a differnt one. The rule of thumbs should be to always go by the cover. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.162.95.41 (talk) 07:46, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-03T07:46:00.000Z","author":"172.162.95.41","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-172.162.95.41-2009-09-03T07:46:00.000Z-Rothorpe-2009-08-30T23:17:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I'm sorry, but even though I raised the subject, I can't agree. The style on the cover is not necessarily Dylan's: album covers use whatever capitalisation rules they like. The style might be different again elsewhere on the package. So I think we should conform to normal usage. Rothorpe (talk) 23:15, 3 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-03T23:15:00.000Z","author":"Rothorpe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rothorpe-2009-09-03T23:15:00.000Z-Capitalisation","replies":["c-172.165.133.138-2009-09-14T05:50:00.000Z-Rothorpe-2009-09-03T23:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm sorry but I don't understand your point. It's the cover! That is BY FAR the most important thing carrying such information. Wikipedia editors are in no position to second guess the cover just because it doesn't conform to standard capitalization rules. Especially since as of now I'm yet to see any official documents that would spell it differently. Heck even Amazon.com and Reuters are calling it "Christmas In the Heart". You have no precedent and, thus, no point. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.165.133.138 (talk) 05:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-14T05:50:00.000Z","author":"172.165.133.138","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-172.165.133.138-2009-09-14T05:50:00.000Z-Rothorpe-2009-09-03T23:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

<Heck even Amazon.com and Reuters are calling it "Christmas In the Heart".> Then their usage is different again, as the cover has "Christmas In The Heart". Can you point me to any other album titles in WP which have needless capitals? Granted, were the title 'chistmas in thE hearT' or some other such deliberate eccentricity, WP would be obliged to reflect that, but this does not seem to be such a case. Rothorpe (talk) 14:57, 14 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-14T14:57:00.000Z","author":"Rothorpe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rothorpe-2009-09-14T14:57:00.000Z-Capitalisation","replies":[]}}-->

I repeat, if you can't trust the cover, then what can you trust? It is the number one source of legitimate information about the arist(s) and the title. And if that's not enough, I would ask you to show me an official piece of writing that has the title spelled any other way. It's not that I don't understant where you are coming from it's that I think that just because it's not an obvious eccentricity, doesn't mean it shouldn't be respected. And as for Amazon, they do call it "Christmas In the Heart" in the header. Point again being that so far it's been anything but "Christmas in the Heart", hence this article is not quite valid.

How about Rolling Stone? [1] Rothorpe (talk) 13:47, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-15T13:47:00.000Z","author":"Rothorpe","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rothorpe-2009-09-15T13:47:00.000Z-Capitalisation","replies":["c-Jellyman-2009-10-15T20:29:00.000Z-Rothorpe-2009-09-15T13:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll give you that one. Still, to me the cover takes precedence (for reasons stated above). Amazon does too, if for no other reason than they are actually selling it, and thus should have their information come direct from the source.

The current format complies with the WikiProject Albums style guidelines (see WP:ALBUMCAPS); whether or not you agree with that is another matter, of course, but a centralised discussion and a consistent approach is surely more useful than arguing out the same issue on multiple article talk pages? Jellyman (talk) 20:29, 15 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-15T20:29:00.000Z","author":"Jellyman","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Jellyman-2009-10-15T20:29:00.000Z-Rothorpe-2009-09-15T13:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->