Talk:Blog

Want to add a mention of first warblog

For the sake of history, I'd like to add a mention of the first known warblog that I have found, which I made public on the Internet at the same time as the 6 June 1996 website launch of www.birzeit.edu [1]. It had been written and coded since November 1995, but was not available online internationally until 6 June 1996. The Internet Archive Wayback Machine didn't pick up the blog for another four months, on the same day it picked up the main university website, 22 October 1996.

At that time it was located in a privately maintained subdirectory off Birzeit University's main website at birzeit.edu/diary/. LOL, can you imagine a university allowing that these days?

Here's a link to the blog homepage "A Personal Diary of the Israeli-Palestinian Conflict", from the Internet archive: https://web.archive.org/web/19961022110437/http://www.birzeit.edu/diary/

Here's a link to the *dated* diary entries from the Internet archive at the time of the first Internet Archive capture: https://web.archive.org/web/19961022075829/http://www.birzeit.edu/diary/index2.html

Here's a link to the *dated* diary entries as of 1999 (pretty much the end of the warblog) from the Internet archive: https://web.archive.org/web/19991128043733/http://www.birzeit.edu/diary/index2.html

[1] Referenced on the university homepage at: https://web.archive.org/web/19961022073730/http://www.birzeit.edu/index.html

Anyway....

Flyingmonkeyairlines (talk) 17:53, 13 July 2019 (CST)

  • (Don't know if you already know this, but) for this to be added to the article there has to actually be a source (news article, book, tracking organization, etc.) saying it's the first (or a very early) warblog, per the original research policy.

Semi-protected edit request on 12 September 2025

Shahzaib Malic (talk) 20:36, 12 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

I want to share my some knowledge about blogging.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Tenshi! (Talk page) 20:44, 12 September 2025 (UTC)Reply

Please include Diaryland in the "...late 1990s..." discussion as an early blog platform

Mention of the online diary platform Diaryland should be inserted into the paragraph that begins "The emergence and growth of blogs in the late 1990s..." Canadian developer Andrew Smales rolled out Diaryland in 1999. It was an early blog platform for anyone to use. It's relevant because Diaryland was recently (May 2026) upgraded: Diaryland SuperLowBudge (talk) 20:03, 27 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

Sounds like a good addition. Are you aware of any sources that meet WP:RS we could use to cite the information? The Diaryland Wikipedia article is poorly sourced and I think very likely to be deleted if that does not change. MrOllie (talk) 20:24, 27 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Hi Mr. Ollie! Interesting points. I'm new, it's my first edit. I'm excited to help enrich Wikipedia and want to do it right. Thank you for the lightning fast response!
Well, my source is the Diaryland site itself, the developer Andrew Smales himself, and the fact that I've been a user of Diaryland for 26 years, practically since day one. I read the "conflict of interest" material, and it says, "The COI guideline does not absolutely prohibit people with a connection to a subject from editing articles on that subject. Editors who have such a connection can still comply with the COI guideline by discussing proposed article changes first, or by making uncontroversial edits." That's me exactly. I have a connection and expertise, but of course I don't get paid.
What I mean by "the Diaryland site itself": Really the only info needed in the existing post is on the About page: https://diaryland.com/about/ That is, the fact that it began in 1999 and that it's been upgraded as of May 2026.
There's also this 2014 piece on Diaryland on Vice, but it's outdated now, due to the May 2026 major upgrade: https://www.vice.com/en/article/the-antisocial-network-how-the-90s-internet-died-like-diaryland/
And this piece on Salon, also outdated: https://www.salon.com/1999/12/10/diaryland/
There's this piece on Medium from 2013: https://medium.com/@maryps/a-conversation-with-andrew-smales-founder-of-diaryland-15e3d1ffc7dc
...and this piece on Medium from 2014: https://medium.com/@connietsang/the-nostalgia-of-diaryland-and-personal-documentation-b2a905499f75
Of course there is THIS piece on Medium that's all about the New Diaryland...it's from this past Sunday...but it's mine! lol. I don't know about including it...COI? https://medium.com/@superlowbudge/a-writers-guide-to-the-new-diaryland-2026-a2b662998aee
What do you think? Also, I wrote the blurb on Diaryland. How can I make it better sourced? I read all about the sources that meet WP:RS that we could use to cite the information...do the above articles meet the requirements? I couldn't tell, as I said--first day.
What was in the Diaryland Wiki before (and has bugged me for years) was inaccurate, and listed no sources at all. It mischaracterized Diaryland as a "microblogging" platform. It most certainly is not and has never been. Microblogging is like Facebook, Twitter/X, and Tumblr. So my edit is an improvement, factual, and accurate.
Let me know what you think! I'm eager to learn!
SuperLowBudge ~2026-41861-00 (talk) 15:51, 28 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Unfortunately there really isn't anything we can do with self published materials (everything from medium.com and diaryland itself). We need something like newspapers, books from major publishers, etc. Salon and Vice are a start but do not really support highlighting Diaryland in particular on this article - Salon doesn't even call it a blog, and Vice paints a picture of a site that has faded into obscurity and has no relevance. We'll have to wait for more sources to notice the updated version. MrOllie (talk) 15:57, 28 July 2026 (UTC)Reply
Oh. Okay. Thank you. SuperLowBudge (talk) 16:02, 28 July 2026 (UTC)Reply

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