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On changes in Onam Festival

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Nomination for Deletion

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Proposed deletion of RadioJoyAlukkas.com

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Kottakkal Kanaran Gurukkal

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kottakkal_Kanaran_Gurukkal


Please approve this ,foreign admins are finding difficulty in approving this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Othayoth shankaran (talkcontribs) 03:30, 2 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-02T03:30:00.000Z","author":"Othayoth shankaran","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Othayoth_shankaran-2020-04-02T03:30:00.000Z-Kottakkal_Kanaran_Gurukkal","replies":["c-RoboShutter-2020-06-19T07:13:00.000Z-Othayoth_shankaran-2020-04-02T03:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

    • @Othayoth shankaran Need more reference,not an passing mention. RoboShutter (talk) 07:13, 19 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-19T07:13:00.000Z","author":"RoboShutter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-RoboShutter-2020-06-19T07:13:00.000Z-Othayoth_shankaran-2020-04-02T03:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->
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Online meetup

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Wikipedia Online Workshop 2020 August 2 Sunday (11 am - 1PM IST) - Wikipedia Online Training Part 1. Google Meet Link . Please do join --naveenpf (talk) 03:26, 2 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-02T03:26:00.000Z","author":"Naveenpf","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Naveenpf-2020-08-02T03:26:00.000Z-Online_meetup","replies":[]}}-->

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Karikku

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I am a new editor and I created a new article on the malayalam youtube channel- Karikku. An AFC editor who was impressed by my article, but did not know about the relevant sources used in it, asked it as a question in Wikiproject India. He recieved two indirect but positive responses, and is waiting for more. Please give your valuable comments at Wikipedia talk:Noticeboard for India-related topics#I need a notability check here (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#I_need_a_notability_check_here) --Atlantis77177 (talk) 05:28, 31 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-31T05:28:00.000Z","author":"Atlantis77177","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Atlantis77177-2020-10-31T05:28:00.000Z-Karikku","replies":[]}}-->

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Kottakkal Kanaran Gurukkal - Dronacharya of Kalaripayattu

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kottakkal_Kanaran_Gurukkal

Please anyone review this draft, since the reference given is mainly in malayalam language books and news paper, better to get reviewed from a malayali. Kalari Poothara (talk) 07:40, 26 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-26T07:40:00.000Z","author":"Kalari Poothara","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kalari_Poothara-2020-11-26T07:40:00.000Z-Kottakkal_Kanaran_Gurukkal_-_Dronacharya_of_Kalaripayattu","replies":[]}}-->

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New Page Patrol

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New Page Patrol needs experienced volunteers
  • New Page Patrol is currently struggling to keep up with the influx of new articles, including Kerala related articles. We could use a few extra hands on deck if you think you can help.
  • Reviewing/patrolling a page doesn't take much time but it requires a good understanding of Wikipedia policies and guidelines; Wikipedia needs experienced users to perform this task and there are precious few with the appropriate skills. Even a couple reviews a day can make a huge difference.
  • If you would like to join the project and help out, please see the granting conditions and review our instructions page. You can apply for the user-right HERE. --John B123 (talk) 14:06, 23 May 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-05-23T14:06:00.000Z","author":"John B123","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John_B123-2021-05-23T14:06:00.000Z-New_Page_Patrol","replies":[]}}-->
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Nomination for merging of Template:Infobox Assam Vidhan Sabha constituency, Template:Infobox Kerala Niyamasabha Constituency, Template:Infobox Vidhan Sabha constituency, Template:Infobox state assembly constituency and Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency

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Template:Infobox Assam Vidhan Sabha constituency, Template:Infobox Kerala Niyamasabha Constituency, Template:Infobox Vidhan Sabha constituency and Template:Infobox state assembly constituency has been nominated for merging with Template:Infobox Indian state legislative assembly constituency. You are invited to comment on the discussion at wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2020 July 14#Infobox Assam Vidhan Sabha constituency. Thank you. 122.167.185.249 (talk) 13:11, 15 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2021-07-15T13:11:00.000Z","author":"122.167.185.249","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-122.167.185.249-2021-07-15T13:11:00.000Z-Nomination_for_merging_of_Template:Infobox_Assam_Vidhan_Sabha_constituency,_Temp","replies":[]}}-->

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Discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian politics § Proposal : Wikipedia:Naming conventions Indian constituencies

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 You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Indian politics § Proposal : Wikipedia:Naming conventions Indian constituencies. --Venkat TL (talk) 13:30, 28 March 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-03-28T13:30:00.000Z","author":"Venkat TL","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Venkat_TL-2022-03-28T13:30:00.000Z-Discussion_at_Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Indian_politics_\u00a7_Proposal_:_Wikipedia","replies":[]}}-->

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User script to detect unreliable sources

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I have (with the help of others) made a small user script to detect and highlight various links to unreliable sources and predatory journals. Some of you may already be familiar with it, given it is currently the 39th most imported script on Wikipedia. The idea is that it takes something like

  • John Smith "Article of things" Deprecated.com. Accessed 2020-02-14. (John Smith "[https://www.deprecated.com/article Article of things]" ''Deprecated.com''. Accessed 2020-02-14.)

and turns it into something like

It will work on a variety of links, including those from {{cite web}}, {{cite journal}} and {{doi}}.

The script is mostly based on WP:RSPSOURCES, WP:NPPSG and WP:CITEWATCH and a good dose of common sense. I'm always expanding coverage and tweaking the script's logic, so general feedback and suggestions to expand coverage to other unreliable sources are always welcomed.

Do note that this is not a script to be mindlessly used, and several caveats apply. Details and instructions are available at User:Headbomb/unreliable. Questions, comments and requests can be made at User talk:Headbomb/unreliable.

- Headbomb {t · c · p · b}

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Aparna Rajeev

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The article for Aparna Rajeev recently survived a deletion nomination, but the community decided that the article needs some help from anyone who can assess reliable Malayalam sources. Thanks. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:04, 9 July 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2022-07-09T13:04:00.000Z","author":"Doomsdayer520","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doomsdayer520-2022-07-09T13:04:00.000Z-Aparna_Rajeev","replies":[]}}-->

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New draft for approval Kerala folk story

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Please approve : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Tale_of_Kodanbharani_and_Chinese_Traveler_to_Malabar Ningalonnichpovuka (talk) 03:06, 3 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20220803030600","author":"Ningalonnichpovuka","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ningalonnichpovuka-20220803030600-New_draft_for_approval_Kerala_folk_story","replies":[]}}-->

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Project-independent quality assessments

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Quality assessments by Wikipedia editors rate articles in terms of completeness, organization, prose quality, sourcing, etc. Most wikiprojects follow the general guidelines at Wikipedia:Content assessment, but some have specialized assessment guidelines. A recent Village pump proposal was approved and has been implemented to add a |class= parameter to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, which can display a general quality assessment for an article, and to let project banner templates "inherit" this assessment.

No action is required if your wikiproject follows the standard assessment approach. Over time, quality assessments will be migrated up to {{WikiProject banner shell}}, and your project banner will automatically "inherit" any changes to the general assessments for the purpose of assigning categories.

However, if your project has decided to "opt out" and follow a non-standard quality assessment approach, all you have to do is modify your wikiproject banner template to pass {{WPBannerMeta}} a new |QUALITY_CRITERIA=custom parameter. If this is done, changes to the general quality assessment will be ignored, and your project-level assessment will be displayed and used to create categories, as at present. Aymatth2 (talk) 21:12, 11 April 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230411211200","author":"Aymatth2","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Aymatth2-20230411211200-Project-independent_quality_assessments","replies":[]}}-->

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Request to cleanup Uma Preman

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Hi, I have created the article in return of monetary compensation, so it shows a paid contribution banner. Please help clean up the article and address any POV issue to resolve the issue. I think the subject is Wikipedia-worthy and the article is not promotional in any way. Sabih omar 18:47, 2 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230802184700","author":"Sabih omar","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sabih_omar-20230802184700-Request_to_cleanup_Uma_Preman","replies":[]}}-->

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Wikisangamotsavam 2023

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Hi all! Annual meetup of Wikimedians of Kerala, Wikisangamotsavam, will take place at Thiruvananthapuram on 13 August, Sunday. Inviting all of you for the meetup. More info available at: meta page. Thank you! - Vis M (talk) 18:26, 9 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230809182600","author":"Vis M","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vis_M-20230809182600-Wikisangamotsavam_2023","replies":[]}}-->

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WikiLove Onam

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Hi,
Do we have any WikiLove template for wishing Onam? The Herald (Benison) (talk) 03:24, 24 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230824032400","author":"The Herald","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-The_Herald-20230824032400-WikiLove_Onam","replies":[],"displayName":"The Herald (Benison)"}}-->

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Notable tharavads/other Kerala families

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Recently while contributing to the article on VK Krishna Menon, I found that the page about the Vengalil family itself had been deleted as non-notable after sixteen or so years of its existence. Presuming it's in the form that's preserved by Wiki mirrors, I agree that an article primarily focused on who married which king etc. is not of tremendous public interest except where such marriages involved major political events or the like.

But separately the deletion discussion is completely nuts. Major noble families and other families of note in Kerala who have extensive coverage in academic and news secondary sources *as families* uncontroversially meet the standard notability guidelines. We still have a page on the Alummoottil family, but won't if this sort of thing turns into a general purge.

I see no reason why Kerala families are of inadequate importance so as to not merit articles, while their analogues in, say, Europe, are uncontroversially treated as notable. The Vengalil family owned 200,000 acres of land in Malabar (and was as best I can tell the biggest landowner in Malabar) and intermarried with the Koothali Moopil Nairs extensively (eventually inheriting much of their estates), as well as with the Rajas of Kadathanadu and Komath thavazhi of the Koothalis, again inheriting lands like Kuttiyadi and Changaroth because of atypical gifting from fathers to sons, contrary to the matrilineal inheritance pattern. This is discussed extensively in the academic literature on everything from agrarian reform in Kerala, scholarship concerning the Mappila riots, land ownership and the politics of ceilings, etc., because families like the Vengalil and Koothali were of major importance as families (typically personified by whoever was karnavar). One user argues in the deletion discussion that the Vengalil were no more important than the Ankarath, Ambat, and Vadakke Kuruppath. That is patently bizarre, since the most famous Ankarath relative is Raman Menon, who was founded the Calicut branch of the Vengalil family (which eventually produced Krishna Menon, among others). Indeed, the deleted article discusses Ankarath cousins and their marital patterns. As for the Ambat and Vadakke Kuruppath, surely the presumption should be that if they meet the ordinary standards for notability, we cover them?

We don't have articles about Raman Menon, who was variously sarvadhikari in Calicut, then in Cochin, and ultimately Dewan of Travancore, and judge of the supreme court of that state. The story of his mother's flight from Palghat with her two young boys (the other siblings having presumably been killed) after the death of her husband, a prince of the Valluvanad royal family, is very well known in many parts of Kerala, and is reported on by secondary sources. We don't have articles about the Koothali Nairs or Kalliat Nambiars. We barely have one about the Mannarghat Nairs. The idea that moopil aristocratic families aren't notable seems to me... utterly fantastic.

Posting here because I'd like to contribute on these topics, from the scholarly literature, and this is presumably the place where standards can be fleshed out. Hölderlin2019 (talk) 08:40, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231013084000","author":"H\u00f6lderlin2019","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-H\u00f6lderlin2019-20231013084000-Notable_tharavads\/other_Kerala_families","replies":[]}}-->

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Wikiconference Kerala 2023

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The 21st birthday celebration of Malayalam Wikipedia is being organized on 23rd December 2023 at St.Thomas's College, Thrissur as part of Wikiconference Kerala 2023.



On that day there will be activities in Malayalam Wikipedia so far and related projects. Also, there will be presentations of projects related to Wikipedia in the fields of Free Software, Malayalam Computing, Open Data, OpenStreetMap etc. For more details visit the event page of Wikiconference Kerala and register your name to attend the event. ❙❚❚❙❙ GnOeee ❚❙❚❙❙ 04:15, 22 December 2023 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231222041500","author":"Gnoeee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gnoeee-20231222041500-Wikiconference_Kerala_2023","replies":[],"displayName":"\u2759\u275a\u275a\u2759\u2759 GnOeee \u275a\u2759\u275a\u2759\u2759"}}-->

Hello Kerala, can you develop this article and publish it to main space??

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Draft:The Real Kerala Story - (Submission rejected on 17 June 2024)

Write an article related to an important topic in Kerala Also published, many references were included in these articles. But it went to Deletion Discuss where it failed and was taken back to Draft where the article was developed. But today it has been rejected its entry into the main space and Kerala is also affected by this article. Spworld2 (talk) 2:33, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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WikiProject Kerala Newsletter: July 2024

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