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Thanks for the great edits and formatting. You've made the article look so much better. The first version, very close to what you saw, was rejected two days ago. Now it looks indisputable. Sam Perkins (talk) 11:57, 28 September 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230928115700","author":"Sam Perkins","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sam_Perkins-20230928115700-AFJ_edits","replies":["c-Valereee-20230928122000-Sam_Perkins-20230928115700"]}}-->
You're welcome, and thanks for creating this article! I have an interest in women in journalism, which is a subject we don't cover well. Valereee (talk) 12:20, 28 September 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20230928122000","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20230928122000-Sam_Perkins-20230928115700","replies":["c-Sam_Perkins-20231002155800-Valereee-20230928122000"]}}-->
You might be interested in the recent group-clean-up of Marian Burros. Added sources which prompted User:Tacyarg (who also added text) to remove the Template:BLP sources. Sam Perkins (talk) 15:58, 2 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231002155800","author":"Sam Perkins","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Sam_Perkins-20231002155800-Valereee-20230928122000","replies":[]}}-->
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Like most hoaxes, it's devious and it takes a bit of unravelling. So let's start at the easy end. Adoption of the Gregorian calendar was protected indefinitely on 15 December 2018. The protecting administrator (who has had his tool removed before) abused it by reverting, instead of protecting the article as he found it. The change he made was this:
While the civil administrations of eastern European countries adopted the Gregorian calendar in the 1910s or early 1920s, none of the national Eastern Orthodox Churches bar the Finnish Orthodox Church have recognised the Gregorian calendar for church or religious purposes
This changed the statement that the Finnish Orthodox Church uses the Gregorian calendar to a claim that it doesn't. This claim has been locked in for the last five years and it's a deliberate hoax. See [3] which notes:
An exception to this general rule is the Orthodox Church of Finland. Owing to the fact that it makes up less than 2 per cent of the population of a predominantly Lutheran country, it observes Easter according to the New Calendar for practical reasons.
Further evidence of an ulterior motive to these reverts may be seen at Wikipedia:Reference_desk/Archives/Humanities/2023 September 29#Royal Prerogative (UK) — Military Powers. The last two paragraphs were removed within minutes of posting, meaning no one had the opportunity to comment before the section was archived this morning. Best, 146.199.206.18 (talk) 09:29, 7 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231007092900","author":"146.199.206.18","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-146.199.206.18-20231007092900-The_hoax","replies":["c-Valereee-20231007133000-146.199.206.18-20231007092900"]}}-->
Okay, so what you're saying is that Future Perfect at Sunrise was in a content dispute at that article and shouldn't have done the protection/protected the 'wrong' version? I'm not sure I agree; I've certainly protected articles at which I'd previously removed POV-pushing under the understanding that if I'm sure such an edit would be made by 'any reasonable admin', something as mild as a semi is unlikely to be a problem. Don't know that I'd have made it indef, but the additions by IPs had been going on for a while, the previous protection was two years and when it expired the problem started right back up, so at that point indef's really just a judgment call. FPaS had only ever edited that article three times. In each case it was indeed to remove similar content about the Finnish Orthodox church, but I'm still not sure that makes it a content dispute rather than a response to POV-pushing. And as far as I can tell, FPaS seems to think this may be a socking problem by a banned or blocked user. If you are not a blocked user, you should consider creating an account. And forgive me for appearing to assume bad faith, but if you are, you should stop evading.
I'm not following what you're saying is evidence at the link to the Humanities desk archives...I don't even find FPaS on the page? I looked in the page history but on a quick skim none of their diffs seemed to be about that section. Can you give me a diff to the removal you're talking about?
Actually this is probably what we should be discussing. FPaS, you removed with no edit summary an attempt by an IP to discuss this issue on the talk at the same time you were removing the content and protecting the page? Valereee (talk) 13:30, 7 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231007133000","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20231007133000-146.199.206.18-20231007092900","replies":["c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-20231007135100-Valereee-20231007133000"]}}-->
All these IPs are WP:LTA/VXFC, who gets reverted per WP:BANREVERT wherever they post. Please don't feed them. Fut.Perf.☼13:51, 7 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231007135100","author":"Future Perfect at Sunrise","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-20231007135100-Valereee-20231007133000","replies":["c-Valereee-20231007135900-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-20231007135100"],"displayName":"Fut.Perf."}}-->
An edit summary would be good. Valereee (talk) 13:59, 7 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231007135900","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Valereee-20231007135900-Future_Perfect_at_Sunrise-20231007135100","replies":["c-82.32.75.206-20231007151200-Valereee-20231007135900"]}}-->
The link being provided is to a Long-term abuse page. Obviously edits removing false information and replacing it with sourced fact are not "Long-term abuse." The administrator has provided no reasoning, so please ask him to do so per WP:ADMINACCT, and if he doesn't please make (yet another) report about him to ANI. 82.32.75.206 (talk) 15:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231007151200","author":"82.32.75.206","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-82.32.75.206-20231007151200-Valereee-20231007135900","replies":[]}}-->
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Hello @ValereeeI was created article https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sangramsingh_Thakur
through AFC submission but User:CNMall41 nominated for deletion so I need your help for that. Rajmama (talk) 06:29, 11 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231011062900","author":"Rajmama","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Rajmama-20231011062900-Help","replies":["c-Valereee-20231011151300-Rajmama-20231011062900"]}}-->
You are giving other editors the impression you may be editing for pay. You will need to disclose that per the instructions at WP:PAID. You also need to promptly address such concerns on your talk page. Valereee (talk) 15:13, 11 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231011151300","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20231011151300-Rajmama-20231011062900","replies":[]}}-->
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Category:Restaurants serving Chinese cuisine has been nominated for merging. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. --Another Believer(Talk)16:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014161400","author":"Another Believer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Another_Believer-20231014161400-Category:Restaurants_serving_Chinese_cuisine_has_been_nominated_for_merging","replies":["c-Another_Believer-20231014161600-Another_Believer-20231014161400"]}}-->
Hoping this discussion will help decide how the cuisine categories should be organized. Thanks! ---Another Believer(Talk)16:16, 14 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014161600","author":"Another Believer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Another_Believer-20231014161600-Another_Believer-20231014161400","replies":[]}}-->
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If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. --Another Believer(Talk)16:13, 14 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014161300","author":"Another Believer","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Another_Believer-20231014161300-Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_Category:Restaurants_serving_lowcountry_cuisine","replies":["c-Valereee-20231014161900-Another_Believer-20231014161300"]}}-->
I jist deleted, I don't know what is correct (lowcountry restaurants could be restaurants in the lowcountry or restaurants serving lowcountry cuisine, I mean) but as it's empty, probably not needed at least for now! Valereee (talk) 16:19, 14 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014161900","author":"Valereee","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Valereee-20231014161900-Another_Believer-20231014161300","replies":["c-Another_Believer-20231014162200-Valereee-20231014161900"]}}-->
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Sorry for the nominations, but hopefully the discussion re: ethnic restaurants has been centralized. Also problematic: Category:Lists of ethnic restaurants, with entries like "Irish-themed" restaurants. I'd say "Irish-themed" is not an ethnicity. Another reason to categorize by cuisine, not ethnicity, IMO. Thanks for collaborating here. ---Another Believer(Talk)17:52, 14 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014175200","author":"Another Believer","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Another_Believer-20231014175200-Another_Believer-20231014171100","replies":[]}}-->
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Sorry to plaster your talk page with CSD C1 notices but the categories you created were emptied. There is an explanation on each article removed about a more suitable category for these pages so you might want to view them, most of the new categories are specific to a place, like Mexican restaurants in San Francisco or other ones like that. In the category world, placing articles in the most specific (but not overly narrow) category is preferred. Thank you and, again, sorry about the flurry of notifications. LizRead!Talk!19:24, 14 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014192400","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Liz-20231014192400-Categories","replies":["c-Liz-20231014212800-Liz-20231014192400"]}}-->
I was thinking that some of these categories could become parent categories to those that are focused on ethnic restaurants in different regions but some of those already exist at Category:Ethnic restaurants (and Category:Southern restaurants already exists) so there would be some duplications. You could turn them into category redirects though if you use the correct code/template.
The problem with categories is that since Wikipedia has been around for 22 years, if it seems like there is an obvious category tree that is missing, it probably has already been created under slightly different page titles. There aren't many new categories created that stay around for long unless they arise out of a CFD discussion, or it's an annual event like a new yearly sports tournament or a new annual beauty pageant or some country decides to change their name. If it seems like a good idea, someone has probably already had that realizeation before. There are occasional efforts to recategorize complete category hierarchies, like right now, there is an editor who is recategorizing most of the villages in Turkey to be designated "neighborhoods" instead, but that's a project he's been working on for months now and involves recategorizing hundreds if not thousands of different articles. Most folks are not that ambitious or if it's a plan that others disagree with, it's nipped in the bud fairly early.
I hope you are having a good weekend, wherever you are. Here in the Northwest U.S., we had a solar eclipse but it's so overcast and cloudy, it didn't make much difference! Take care, LizRead!Talk!21:28, 14 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231014212800","author":"Liz","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Liz-20231014212800-Liz-20231014192400","replies":[]}}-->
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Since you were mentioned on the talk page, I am hoping you can assist with your admin tools as I don't want to mess anything up by doing a page move. There is a deletion discussion in the works for this page and the creator moved it to mainspace despite it being declined three times. They were given advice about participating in the discussion about their "move to draft" request and instead went to the Teahouse for advice. I think they misunderstood the advice they were given as they took it upon themself to move the page to draft despite it still being under discussion. Are you able to move this back for the remaining term of the discussion or does it matter? CNMall41 (talk) 02:52, 16 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231016025200","author":"CNMall41","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-CNMall41-20231016025200-Sangramsingh_Thakur","replies":[]}}-->
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Recent changes
The Unified login system's edge login should now be fixed for some browsers (Chrome, Edge, Opera). This means that if you visit a new sister project wiki, you should be logged in automatically without the need to click "Log in" or reload the page. Feedback on whether it's working for you is welcome. [7]
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 17 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 18 October. It will be on all wikis from 19 October (calendar).
Future changes
In 3 weeks, in the Vector 2022 skin, code related to addPortletLink and #p-namespaces that was deprecated one year ago will be removed. If you notice tools that should appear next to the "Discussion" tab are then missing, please tell the gadget's maintainers to see instructions in the Phabricator task.
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
There is a new Language and internationalization newsletter, written quarterly. It contains updates on new feature development, improvements in various language-related technical projects, and related support work.
Source map support has been enabled on all wikis. When you open the debugger in your browser's developer tools, you should be able to see the unminified JavaScript source code. [8]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 24 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 25 October. It will be on all wikis from 26 October (calendar).
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Women in Red November 2023, Vol 9, Iss 11, Nos 251, 252, 287, 288, 289
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
The Structured Content team, as part of its project of improving UploadWizard on Commons, made some UX improvements to the upload step of choosing own vs not own work (T347590), as well as to the licensing step for own work (T347756).
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 31 October. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 1 November. It will be on all wikis from 2 November (calendar).
Listings on category pages are sorted on each wiki for that language using a library. For a brief period on 2 November, changes to categories will not be sorted correctly for many languages. This is because the developers are upgrading to a new version of the library. They will then use a script to fix the existing categories. This will take a few hours or a few days depending on how big the wiki is. You can read more. [9][10]
Starting November 1, the impact module (Special:Impact) will be upgraded by the Growth team. The new impact module shows newcomers more data regarding their impact on the wiki. It was tested by a few wikis during the last few months. [11]
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Hello Valereee:
WikiProject Articles for creation is holding a month long Backlog Drive!
The goal of this drive is to reduce the backlog of unreviewed drafts to less than 2 months outstanding reviews from the current 4+ months. Bonus points will be given for reviewing drafts that have been waiting more than 30 days. The drive is running from 1 November 2023 through 30 November 2023.
Barnstars will be given out as awards at the end of the drive.
There is a backlog of over 1700 pages, so start reviewing drafts. We're looking forward to your help! MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:25, 31 October 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231031132500","author":"MediaWiki message delivery","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231031132500-November_Articles_for_creation_backlog_drive","replies":[]}}-->
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The WikiCup is a marathon rather than a sprint and all those reaching the final round have been involved in the competition for the last ten months, improving Wikipedia vastly during the process. After all this hard work, BeanieFan11 has emerged as the 2023 winner and the WikiCup Champion. The finalists this year were:-
Congratulations to everyone who participated in this year's WikiCup, whether they made it to the final round or not, and particular congratulations to the newcomers to the competition, some of whom did very well. Wikipedia has benefitted greatly from the quality creations, expansions and improvements made, and the numerous reviews performed. All those who reached the final round will win awards. The following special awards will be made based on high performance in particular areas of content creation and review. Awards will be handed out in the next few days.
Unlimitedlead wins the featured article prize, for 7 FAs in total including 3 in round 2.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured list prize, for 5 FLs in total.
Lee Vilenski wins the featured topic prize, for a 6-article featured topic in round 4.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the featured picture prize, for 6 FPs in total.
BeanieFan11 wins the good article prize, for 75 GAs in total, including 61 in the final round.
Epicgenius wins the good topic prize, for a 41-article good topic in the final round.
LunaEatsTuna wins the GA reviewer prize, for 70 GA reviews in round 1.
MyCatIsAChonk wins the FA reviewer prize, for 66 FA reviews in the final round.
Epicgenius wins the DYK prize, for 49 did you know articles in total.
Muboshgu wins the ITN prize, for 46 in the news articles in total.
The WikiCup has run every year since 2007. With the 2023 contest now concluded, I will be standing down as a judge due to real life commitments, so I hope that another editor will take over running the competition. Please get in touch if you are interested. Next year's competition will hopefully begin on 1 January 2024. You are invited to sign up to participate in the contest; the WikiCup is open to all Wikipedians, both novices and experienced editors. It only remains to congratulate our worthy winners once again and thank all participants for their involvement! (If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove your name from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send.) Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 16:52, 5 November 2023 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"20231105165200","author":"MediaWiki message delivery","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-MediaWiki_message_delivery-20231105165200-WikiCup_2023_November_newsletter","replies":[]}}-->
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Latest tech news from the Wikimedia technical community. Please tell other users about these changes. Not all changes will affect you. Translations are available.
Recent changes
In the Vector 2022 skin, the default font-size of a number of navigational elements (tagline, tools menu, navigational links, and more) has been increased slightly to match the font size used in page content. [12]
Problems
Last week, there was a problem displaying some recent edits on a few wikis, for 1-6 hours. The edits were saved but not immediately shown. This was due to a database problem. [13]
Changes later this week
The new version of MediaWiki will be on test wikis and MediaWiki.org from 7 November. It will be on non-Wikipedia wikis and some Wikipedias from 8 November. It will be on all wikis from 9 November (calendar).
The Growth team will reassign newcomers from former mentors to the currently active mentors. They have also changed the notification language to be more user-friendly. [14][15]
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Following a motion, the contentious topic designation of Prem Rawat has been struck. Actions previously taken using this contentious topic designation are still in force.
Following several motions, multiple topic areas are no longer designated as a contentious topic. These contentious topic designations were from the Editor conduct in e-cigs articles, Liancourt Rocks, Longevity, Medicine, September 11 conspiracy theories, and Shakespeare authorship question cases.
Following a motion, remedies 3.1 (All related articles under 1RR whenever the dispute over naming is concerned), 6 (Stalemate resolution) and 30 (Administrative supervision) of the Macedonia 2 case have been rescinded.
Following a motion, remedy 6 (One-revert rule) of the The Troubles case has been amended.
An arbitration case named Industrial agriculture has been opened. Evidence submissions in this case close 8 November.
Miscellaneous
The Articles for Creation backlog drive is happening in November 2023, with 700+ drafts pending reviews for in the last 4 months or so. In addition to the AfC participants, all administrators and New Page Patrollers can conduct reviews using the helper script, Yet Another AFC Helper Script, which can be enabled in the Gadgets settings. Sign up here to participate!
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