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Can you Fix the error on the refernce i made please. 68.103.78.155 (talk) 14:47, 23 January 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-23T14:47:00.000Z","author":"68.103.78.155","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-68.103.78.155-2020-01-23T14:47:00.000Z-2020_Big_12_Football_Season","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-01-24T20:54:00.000Z-68.103.78.155-2020-01-23T14:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

@68.103.78.155: Fixed. You had stray spaces in the URL. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 20:54, 24 January 2020 (UTC)}}[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-01-24T20:54:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-01-24T20:54:00.000Z-68.103.78.155-2020-01-23T14:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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@David Fuchs:

I'll try and find that discussion (perhaps it's under one of the archived talk pages of the ST movie articles I mentioned). Thing is, from what you appeared to bring up with the Jaws and Godfather posters is that they have the regular theatrical posters and not just the art. I wouldn't want the author to be unhappy about anything, but it seems like a discussion should possibly be opened on these certain Star Trek film articles regarding whether to use the regular posters or just the art. StrangeloveFan101 (talk) 11:21, 1 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-01T11:21:00.000Z","author":"StrangeloveFan101","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-StrangeloveFan101-2020-04-01T11:21:00.000Z-Response_to_your_reply_on_the_Teahouse","replies":[]}}-->

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I tried again to make the change and the same editor undid it within minutes. It truly makes me laugh how some people are so intractable. I had thought, or only noticed, people being hardheads over facts, but its pathetic when simply trying to improve readability a user puts their feet in concrete. I even tried reaching out to the user to say if you dont like my change then at least recog the sentence is over 40 words and needs help without any success. its a shame there are a few people like this because they genuinely stop progress. thx. ToeFungii (talk) 16:09, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-09T16:09:00.000Z","author":"ToeFungii","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-ToeFungii-2020-04-09T16:09:00.000Z-ty_for_your_help_at_teahouse","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-04-09T17:28:00.000Z-ToeFungii-2020-04-09T16:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

@ToeFungii: there are some people dead set on owning articles that they work on. Sadly they are sometimes supported by admins in this violation of site norms. See my personal favorite from three years ago when I tried to add an infobox to Ian Fleming’s article and ran into a stubbornly entrenched group. [[1]] TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 17:28, 9 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-09T17:28:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-04-09T17:28:00.000Z-ToeFungii-2020-04-09T16:09:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

[2] - this is about David Gorski whose blog you said correctly was sps. But Science-Based Medicine is an RS.[3] Doug Weller talk 17:52, 12 April 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-04-12T17:52:00.000Z","author":"Doug Weller","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doug_Weller-2020-04-12T17:52:00.000Z-You_might_want_to_see_this_as_the_edit_summary_quotes_you_as_justification_for_a","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi, I added a question regarding the citation notice you added to this page. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Drew_Chicone#Citations - guidance would be welcomed. Thank you. Mlepisto (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-05-13T16:49:00.000Z","author":"Mlepisto","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mlepisto-2020-05-13T16:49:00.000Z-Drew_Chicone_Citation","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Tim, I would appreciate if you could review the Roy Sebag article as there is an attempt again to nominate it for deletion. Last time, you had voted to keep the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikipedia1995 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 4 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-04T21:05:00.000Z","author":"Wikipedia1995","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Wikipedia1995-2020-06-04T21:05:00.000Z-Please_review","replies":[]}}-->

Tim, thank you for your review of the AfC for Draft:Kyle_McMahon I reviewed the draft again and can not find any dead links. Are you able to kindly let me know what you found so I may fix?

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@FrankNSteinJr: The ESPN link (#4) says it’s dead. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 05:16, 10 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-10T05:16:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-06-10T05:16:00.000Z-FrankNSteinJr-2020-06-10T00:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks Tim. That's strange because that was a working link last week. I just googled it and got a new link from ESPN for the same story so I've switched it to that.

Appreciate it.

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@FrankNSteinJr: That happens a lot. Media companies reorganize their links from time to time, to accommodate new technologies and search features and things of that ilk. You'd think that an automatic tagging of dead links on Wikipedia would be possible with current web crawler software. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:28, 11 June 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-06-11T00:28:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-06-11T00:28:00.000Z-FrankNSteinJr-2020-06-10T22:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I wanted to take a moment to thank you for taking the time to investigate the Planet Fitness page.
I read a news item about the Youfit owner retiring, and out of curiousity went to the PF Wiki. When I saw he wasn't mentioned at all I did some digging and found the conflicting accounts. I corrected them on the page, my notes were deleted. Being new to Wiki, I was confused and bewildered -- I tried to present the information but user refused to back down. Anyway, I have no dog in the fight other than the desire to see the facts presented. In this world of false sources and rewriting history, it's a relief to have someone else care about what facts really mean. So, thank you again! Katherine311MH (talk) 15:14, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-02T15:14:00.000Z","author":"Katherine311MH","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Katherine311MH-2020-07-02T15:14:00.000Z-Thank_you","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-07-02T19:40:00.000Z-Katherine311MH-2020-07-02T15:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Katherine311MH: Glad to help - I like the challenge of unraveling the narrative. You might add some info to Youfit about the fact that they seem to have been started as a spinoff of Planet Fitness, with the first few locations converted from Planet Fitness franchises. And there's no logo - do you know how to add one? It's good experience to have. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:40, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-02T19:40:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-07-02T19:40:00.000Z-Katherine311MH-2020-07-02T15:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Yes, that's what got me interested too. Especially because the links etc kept getting deleted. Intrigue!

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Hi Tim. Following up on your post at the Teahouse about the Adopt - a -User programme, that new user gap, as I understand it, was once filled solely by WP:AAU. But nowadays, with the evolution of other help fora, new users are, for the most part, far better served by WP:HD and WP:TH. I have been gently working towards the Adoption scheme moving away from being seen as 'new user' support (which we do well at the Teahouse) and towards intermediate user support (or 'committed new user' might be a better term).

See this discussion for an outline of my very slow-burn aspiration, in which we re-purpose AAU, and take it off the new user welcome templates, get rid of the 'adopt me' templates that new users pointlessly put on their pages, and then promote Adoption to the right type of user from WP:HD and WP:TH and other venues (such as certain help and guidance pages). It would become a means of giving one-to-one support for those users whose current Wikipedia editing would be improved by greater understanding of our working practices, but who are already able to show they have some broad editing experience under their belt. It would avoid POV editors, and those totally new users who clearly have no intention to stick around, from wasting the time of adopters. These adopters would be better off supporting those they can see already know the basics, but would now benefit from a period of more intensive or focussed guidance. It would meet the needs of those who have more tricky, and perhaps involved or long-term, questions that they might feel they can't ask at the Teahouse/Help desk. One example here. I did do a draft reworking of the AAU text some while ago, but haven't changed anything on the page as yet as it's going to take some long term commitment to steer it through, and gaining a bit of broad support. But AAU is regarded as having been in the doldrums for the last 8 to 10 years, and some of the old hands, like Swarm, seem keen to let someone have a go at reworking it. (I'm just not going to rush it, though, and still need to do find time to do more planning work on it). So, I hope you didn't think I was trying to tell you off in any way; I'm just keen that was, as Teahouse Hosts, don't AAU is a panacea, or mislead new editors by pushing them towards something that really won't meet their needs, and which will result in disappointment for them. Cheers, Nick Moyes (talk) 22:57, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-02T22:57:00.000Z","author":"Nick Moyes","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nick_Moyes-2020-07-02T22:57:00.000Z-Adopt-A-User_-_my_hopes_for_its_future","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-07-02T23:01:00.000Z-Nick_Moyes-2020-07-02T22:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Nick Moyes: Thanks for the background. Sounds like the best onboarding process is to recommend users do the Wikipedia adventure, and then people who want to keep going can go to Help:Getting started, followed by the Wikipedia:Community portal. And of course if they get stuck go to the Teahouse or Help Desk. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:01, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-02T23:01:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-07-02T23:01:00.000Z-Nick_Moyes-2020-07-02T22:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nick_Moyes-2020-07-02T23:06:00.000Z-Timtempleton-2020-07-02T23:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

I hope I never evolve into using that particular jargonese term (LOL) but, yes, that sounds logical. When we start to see clearly able questioners asking complex things at the Teahouse, that's probably the time to suggest they might find Adoption ideal for them. This is only my view of course, but I genuinely think that's the way to go. Nick Moyes (talk) 23:06, 2 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-07-02T23:06:00.000Z","author":"Nick Moyes","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nick_Moyes-2020-07-02T23:06:00.000Z-Timtempleton-2020-07-02T23:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Hello! I respect your work and hope you have a minute to look at a page I'm creating. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Ron_Diamond One of the things he's famous for in the animation community is his film restoration work, however I am not seeing a lot of sourcing about it. It would be a shame not to list it, do you have any suggestions? Thank you! Katherine311MH (talk) 15:59, 9 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-09T15:59:00.000Z","author":"Katherine311MH","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Katherine311MH-2020-08-09T15:59:00.000Z-A_moment_of_your_time","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-08-11T01:06:00.000Z-Katherine311MH-2020-08-09T15:59:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Thanks for your help, so much. He has more films and a ton of awards, so I'm currently researching those and will continue to add and edit.Katherine311MH (talk) 21:55, 13 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-13T21:55:00.000Z","author":"Katherine311MH","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Katherine311MH-2020-08-13T21:55:00.000Z-Timtempleton-2020-08-11T01:06:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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I wanted to thank you for your response to my request for advice on my first draft article. I will definitely put the time in to be sure I produce the best work that I can, knowing that at this point in my level of experience I will probably fall short of perfection, but it's a great learning experience for what, hopefully, will be many more. Of course, I am continuing to do some edits and clean up work on other articles, I am learning more as I go along. I wanted to let you know, I do have content to add to the extra section heading that are currently empty or short. I have a lot of information, that hopefully, proves the notability of the individual that I'm writing about, James Ewing. I'm still adding content to some of the other sections, I find it helpful to skip around when I hit a wall and need to mull a bit.I When I finish, I will be sure to edit out some of the written information that may be redundant and unnecessary. Again, thanks very much, hopefully, if it's accepted, I can share it with you. I appreciate your mentoring.😁 Best Mollifiednow (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 02:17, 28 August 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-08-28T02:17:00.000Z","author":"Mollifiednow","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mollifiednow-2020-08-28T02:17:00.000Z-Huge_thanks","replies":[]}}-->

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hey i'm mfl1000 i've seen that the Bigger Than You has something wrong in the chart section, in the nz chart it says 8 but its not in the right place can you please fix it thanks!

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Hi Ard-Na-Ri - I'm not familar with Online Geniuses, but I'll give you the same advice I give to everyone at the help desk and teahouse. Creating an article is one of the hardest things to do on Wikipedia. There used to be a way for people to propose articles, but because of the large backlog and resultant frustration, it looks like the link has been changed to direct people to the Article Creation wizard. If you have a conflict of interest and are comneected to the company, it's recommended that you not try to write an article - it will only likely be rejected. See Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. If you're not connected, and want to learn to edit, I recommend you first visit Wikipedia:The Wikipedia Adventure to learn basic editing. Then you can take a shot at a draft. It's a good skill to have and we always need more editors. This will also help Help:Your first article. Then you can go to Wikipedia:Articles for creation and give it a shot. There should be at least 8-10 good sources of independent media coverage, including at least 2 indepth profiles. You should be able to write a good article without having to use any information the company writes about itself. But feel free to ping me again if you're not sure if the company is notable enough, so you don't waste your time. Good luck! TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 00:10, 8 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-08T00:10:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-10-08T00:10:00.000Z-Ard-Na-Ri-2020-10-07T23:16:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Tim!

Once upon a time you noticed some issues in the atricle Azul Systems which is similar to the article BellSoft, which I am creating now. BellSoft is a company developing Liberica JDK, one of OpenJDK-based Java SE implementations.

May I ask you to take a look at my sandbox? I prepared a draft of the article there and wish to ensure that it is as good as possible. I appreciate your advice on how to improve the article. Thank you!

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Hi Philip Torchinsky - discussion moved to User talk:Philip Torchinsky/sandbox. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:27, 9 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-09T19:27:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-10-09T19:27:00.000Z-Philip_Torchinsky-2020-10-09T15:08:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hello Timtempleton, an article on Broadbean that you created back in 2011 seems to have fallen into an unfortunate state, lacking substantive, independent references. Are you aware of any sources that might show that the company meets NCORP? – Teratix ₵ 09:21, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-13T09:21:00.000Z","author":"Teratix","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Teratix-2020-10-13T09:21:00.000Z-Broadbean_(company)","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-10-13T18:30:00.000Z-Teratix-2020-10-13T09:21:00.000Z","c-Timtempleton-2020-10-15T22:50:00.000Z-Teratix-2020-10-13T09:21:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Tera"}}-->

@Teratix: One of my first articles - a blast from the past. It does need better sourcing. Let me hunt for some more sources. They were bought by CareerBuilder which is now owned by Apollo Global Management. The site is still up so they kept the Broadbean name and are likely still a standalone business. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 18:30, 13 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-13T18:30:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-10-13T18:30:00.000Z-Teratix-2020-10-13T09:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

@Teratix: - I cleaned it up and added some recent news. let me know what you think. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 22:50, 15 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-10-15T22:50:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-10-15T22:50:00.000Z-Teratix-2020-10-13T09:21:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Hi! It’s me, NonPopularPerson from the Images, emojis query. What I mean is, how do you make an image small so it looks like it’s part of text? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NonPopularPerson (talk • contribs) 17:14, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-19T17:14:00.000Z","author":"NonPopularPerson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NonPopularPerson-2020-11-19T17:14:00.000Z-Inline_images","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-11-19T23:22:00.000Z-NonPopularPerson-2020-11-19T17:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

@NonPopularPerson: I'm not sure how that would work. You'd have to upload a very small (maybe 5pixel x 5pixel?) image and then play around with it in your sandbox to see if you can get the text to wrap properly. The sandbox link is at the top right menu bar. (Please remember to sign your posts on talk pages by typing four keyboard tildes like this: ~~~~. Or, you can use the [ reply ] button, which automatically signs posts.) TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 23:22, 19 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-19T23:22:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-11-19T23:22:00.000Z-NonPopularPerson-2020-11-19T17:14:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I think I got it now. I can just view a page on what I’m talking about, then, view the source edit, then , copy the [i dont know what its called], then, voila. NonPopularPerson (talk) 07:37, 20 November 2020 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by NonPopularPerson (talk • contribs) 07:16, 20 November 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-11-20T07:37:00.000Z","author":"NonPopularPerson","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-NonPopularPerson-2020-11-20T07:37:00.000Z-Inline_images","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-11-20T07:34:00.000Z-NonPopularPerson-2020-11-20T07:37:00.000Z"]}}-->

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Just because kittens!

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Guild of Copy Editors December 2020 Newsletter Hello and welcome to the December GOCE newsletter, a brief update of Guild activities since September 2020.                  Current and upcoming events Election time: our end-of-year Election of Coordinators opened for nominations on 1 December and will close on 15 December at 23:59 (UTC). Voting opens at 00:01 the following day and will continue until 31 December at 23:59, just before Auld Lang Syne. Coordinators normally serve a six-month term and are elected on an approval basis. Self-nominations are welcome. If you've thought of helping out at the Guild, or know of another editor who would make a good coordinator, please consider standing for election or nominating them here. December Blitz: This will run from 13 to 19 December, and will target all Requests. Sign up now. Drive and Blitz reports September Drive: 67 fewer articles had copy-edit templates by this month's close. Of the 27 editors who signed up, 15 copy-edited at least one article, and 124 articles were claimed for the drive. October Blitz: this ran from 18 to 24 October, and focused on articles tagged for copy-edit in July and August 2020, and all Requests. Of the 13 who signed up, 11 editors copy-edited at least one article. 21 articles were claimed for the blitz. November Drive: Of the 18 editors who signed up, 15 copy-edited at least one article, and together claimed 134 articles. At the close of the drive, 67 fewer articles were in the backlog and we had dealt with 39 requests. Other news Progress report: As of 09:05, 3 December 2020 (UTC), GOCE copyeditors had processed 663 requests (18 from 2019) since 1 January and there were 52 requests awaiting completion on the Requests page. The backlog of articles tagged for copy-editing stood at 494 (see monthly progress graph above). Annual Report for 2020: this roundup of the year's activity at the Guild is planned for publication in late January or early February. Thank you all again for your participation; we wouldn't be able to achieve what we have without you! Seasonal tidings and cheers from your GOCE coordinators: Jonesey95, Baffle gab1978, Puddleglum2.0, Tdslk and Twofingered Typist. To discontinue receiving GOCE newsletters, please remove your name from our mailing list.

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	The Original Barnstar
	For your good participation in AfC. I dream of horses (Contribs) Please notify me after replying off my talk page. Thank you. 03:54, 19 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-19T03:54:00.000Z","author":"I dream of horses","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-I_dream_of_horses-2020-12-19T03:54:00.000Z-A_barnstar_for_you!_2","replies":[]}}-->

This year, many people had COVID to fear,
The holidays are getting near,
One thing that will be clear,
We will still have holiday cheer,
Happy holidays and happy new year!!
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make Navigation Popup Pictures Bigger + load faster How does one make Navigation Pop up Pictures bigger? the reference tooltip preview has loads bigger pictures but it cuts offs the Introduction of a new hyperlink Topic

The Navigation Pop up feature can be better if it loads faster pop ups seems to not cut off the intro of a new topic — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vibrato3 (talk • contribs) 02:23, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T02:23:00.000Z","author":"Vibrato3","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vibrato3-2020-12-26T02:23:00.000Z-Size_of_navigation_popups","replies":[]}}-->

If you made an improvement in the article (and thanks for that) you should go to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Snyder (musician) and say you want to keep it, because why would you have improved an article that was only going to be deleted?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 16:58, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T16:58:00.000Z","author":"Vchimpanzee","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T16:58:00.000Z-Bob_Snyder_(musician)","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-12-26T19:40:00.000Z-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T16:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Vchimpanzee: I improve articles all the time without passing judgment on the subject’s notability. Sometimes while trying to improve an article, I may determine that there are insufficient sources to preserve it, which is what happened with Bob Snyder’s article. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:40, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T19:40:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-12-26T19:40:00.000Z-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T16:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T19:49:00.000Z-Timtempleton-2020-12-26T19:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, you already !voted. Then why did you make improvements?— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 19:49, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T19:49:00.000Z","author":"Vchimpanzee","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T19:49:00.000Z-Timtempleton-2020-12-26T19:40:00.000Z","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-12-26T19:57:00.000Z-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T19:49:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Vchimpanzee: in the interest of being fair, I hate to see articles be deleted if they’re badly written or done by novice users. The decision should be based on notability, not the appearance of the article. By improving them I give them a fighting chance, but it doesn’t change my vote in this case. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:57, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T19:57:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-12-26T19:57:00.000Z-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T19:49:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T20:13:00.000Z-Timtempleton-2020-12-26T19:57:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was relatively new and didn't know about proper sourcing, but I have access to more sources now. I don't know whether you saw my new sources because not just anyone can. But the fact remains I created the article because I wanted to know more about the man who every Saturday night was a featured artist on Joe Lacina's national radio show. Every Saturday at 11 Eastern, I would hear his clarinet and the words "Bob Snyder time". And during that part of the show, "Amazing Grace" was played. Anyone hearing that show would perceive that Snyder was notable even if Wikipedia's rules about the concept are strange.— Vchimpanzee • talk • contributions • 20:13, 26 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-26T20:13:00.000Z","author":"Vchimpanzee","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T20:13:00.000Z-Timtempleton-2020-12-26T19:57:00.000Z","replies":["c-Timtempleton-2020-12-28T19:03:00.000Z-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T20:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

@Vchimpanzee: - It is usually recommended that you discuss at the talk page and add the three sources you think are the best. Then the voters can review and decide. Right now, the sourcing doesn't demonstrate notability. This isn't a strange rule - this is the best way to do this in a way that can be verified, versus violating WP:OR. TimTempleton ^{(talk) (cont)} 19:03, 28 December 2020 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2020-12-28T19:03:00.000Z","author":"Timtempleton","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Timtempleton-2020-12-28T19:03:00.000Z-Vchimpanzee-2020-12-26T20:13:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->