Talk page Archive 3, created 1/12/10

Tillman,

Is it possible for you to upload the picture “Wari tunic.jpg” to commons? Or are there problems with the copyrights outside the USA? I would like yo use the picture for the dutch wikipedia. See [[1]]Technische Fred (talk) 11:58, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-27T11:58:00.000Z","author":"Technische Fred","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Technische_Fred-2008-12-27T11:58:00.000Z-Wari","replies":["c-Tillman-2008-12-27T17:57:00.000Z-Technische_Fred-2008-12-27T11:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'm not sure if this sort of file is acceptable for commons, as it's PD under a US court decision: see [2]. If you think its OK, please feel free to copy it to commons. Beautiful piece, isn't it? Best regards, Pete Tillman (talk) 17:57, 27 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-12-27T17:57:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2008-12-27T17:57:00.000Z-Technische_Fred-2008-12-27T11:58:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Hi, your crop of File:Marella.png removed the scale. I'd be grateful if you would either add a scale bar to the new image, or restore the original file. Thanks, Martin (Smith609 – Talk) 17:25, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-01-03T17:25:00.000Z","author":"Smith609","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Smith609-2009-01-03T17:25:00.000Z-Marrella","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-01-03T18:19:00.000Z-Smith609-2009-01-03T17:25:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Martin"}}-->

Is the scale in centimeters? What if I add to the legend, "width of image = 2 (or whatever) cm"? I thought the scale & table detracted from the nice photo of the critter. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-01-03T18:19:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-01-03T18:19:00.000Z-Smith609-2009-01-03T17:25:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Thanks for cleaning it up, but why move Mike Resnick's picture from the Rs to the Ps? Shsilver (talk) 22:02, 1 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-01T22:02:00.000Z","author":"Shsilver","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Shsilver-2009-05-01T22:02:00.000Z-List_of_SF_Authors","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-05-02T20:36:00.000Z-Shsilver-2009-05-01T22:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

I was trying to keep Zelazny's photo from being way down below the end of the list! Cheers --Pete Tillman (talk) 20:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-02T20:36:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-05-02T20:36:00.000Z-Shsilver-2009-05-01T22:02:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Given our past interactions on various topics I thought I would make the following offer.

If you ever have something you want me to offer an opinion on or that you feel I might personally be interested in anywhere on wikipedia, its talk pages, or within any of the official forums such as noticeboards, RfCs, RfAs, and the like, please contact me directly on my talk page and feel free to reference this standing request. I trust your judgment in deciding which topics might be of interest to me, and please keep me informed of any topics in general as well as items specifically involving you personally.

Here, let me formally make the unsolicited request. Please make a note of it. --GoRight (talk) 03:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-13T03:27:00.000Z","author":"GoRight","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-GoRight-2009-08-13T03:27:00.000Z-Standing_Offer\/Request","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks for the input; I don't remember what exactly the problem was, but there was somewhat on these articles about them being along this road — in the introduction — and everything was unsourced. Reading the article on the High Road, I really wasn't sure whether it were serious or not, and if it were serious, whether it were significant; after all, the creator put it in a villages category and tried to put it on a county template, so I didn't know if it were perhaps exaggerated well past reality. Nyttend (talk) 00:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-08-31T00:09:00.000Z","author":"Nyttend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nyttend-2009-08-31T00:09:00.000Z-High_Road_to_Taos","replies":[]}}-->

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:HollenbeckBH.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Possibly unfree files because its copyright status is unclear or disputed. If the file's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the file description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --Optigan13 (talk) 09:23, 15 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-09-15T09:23:00.000Z","author":"Optigan13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Optigan13-2009-09-15T09:23:00.000Z-Possibly_unfree_File:HollenbeckBH.jpg","replies":[]}}-->

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Tillman, I have restored:

• File:StmShovelLA33.jpg, and
• File:Selig Zoo Archway.jpg

as User:Optigan13's request. However the images are still missing proper licensing information and Optigan seems to be on a vacation. Can you add the appropriate license tags, so that the images are not deleted again? Thanks. Abecedare (talk) 02:34, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-24T02:34:00.000Z","author":"Abecedare","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Abecedare-2009-10-24T02:34:00.000Z-Images_undeleted","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-10-24T03:43:00.000Z-Abecedare-2009-10-24T02:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Done -- thanks for your help on this. I'll restore them to the original articles in a day or two.

Could you also restore the old talk page for File:Selig Zoo Archway.jpg? I went ahead and created a new one, to explain the restore, so just put the old material in front of that. I don't think the other image previously had a talk page. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 03:43, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-24T03:43:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-10-24T03:43:00.000Z-Abecedare-2009-10-24T02:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Abecedare-2009-10-24T04:00:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-10-24T03:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I have restored the talk page history, which had one deleted edit. You can add that back to the page if you wish (although it doesn't seem to be relevant to me). Thanks for uploading these images and getting all the licensing issues resolved. Since these images are PD, you may want to transfer them to Commons eventually, so that they can be used on other language wikis too. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 04:00, 24 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-10-24T04:00:00.000Z","author":"Abecedare","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Abecedare-2009-10-24T04:00:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-10-24T03:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-Optigan13-2009-11-02T06:18:00.000Z-Abecedare-2009-10-24T04:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for addressing these while I was gone. I've placed the hollenbeck and the two restored images into a new Category:UCLA-Los Angeles Times photographs to track those, and applied {{Keeplocal}} tags on the images. Can you check my wording in the notice at the top and update as you see fit. If everything looks ok I'll try to go through and update the other UCLA/LA times images to match. In the long term UCLA should probably update their license tags, but I'm not in any hurry to try to write them an e-mail/letter asking them to do so. Thanks for your work on this. -Optigan13 (talk) 06:18, 2 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-02T06:18:00.000Z","author":"Optigan13","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Optigan13-2009-11-02T06:18:00.000Z-Abecedare-2009-10-24T04:00:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-11-07T21:23:00.000Z-Optigan13-2009-11-02T06:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Looks fine to me. I'll add to the category as time permits -- which could be awhile. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 21:23, 7 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-07T21:23:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-11-07T21:23:00.000Z-Optigan13-2009-11-02T06:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Optigan13-2009-11-10T07:50:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-11-07T21:23:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I've updated the images in Category:Images of California that were from UCLA to include all the templates and moved into the UCLA category. Not sure what other ones you've uploaded that are still on en.wiki and not commons at this point, but let me know if would like assistance tagging additional images. I do have one more image which I have issue with, but I'll start a new section on that one. -Optigan13 (talk) 07:50, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-10T07:50:00.000Z","author":"Optigan13","type":"comment","level":6,"id":"c-Optigan13-2009-11-10T07:50:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-11-07T21:23:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

File:SOCoalinga.jpg is the last file I see that has an issue with copyright at the moment. It's using the Historic Fair use template, and right now I don't feel it fills the Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria to be used in the Coalinga Oil Field. If you can update the article so that the image serves a purpose above being decorational we can avoid a deletion discussion. I'm about done clearing out Category:Images of California so this should be the last issue to look at. I'll probably come back to this at some point over the weekend if I'm going to nominate it, I'm just giving you some lead time. Thanks for all your work and patience on these so far. -Optigan13 (talk) 08:05, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-10T08:05:00.000Z","author":"Optigan13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Optigan13-2009-11-10T08:05:00.000Z-Standard_Oil_Company_building_Coalinga_oil_fields_image","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-11-10T17:18:00.000Z-Optigan13-2009-11-10T08:05:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the heads-up. I've added some historic information (tracing the company history from Std Oil to Chevron) for the company's operations at the field. Will that pass muster? I'll also redo the FUR -- thought I'd caught all of these with the old template. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 17:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-10T17:18:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-11-10T17:18:00.000Z-Optigan13-2009-11-10T08:05:00.000Z","replies":["c-Optigan13-2009-11-11T06:48:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-11-10T17:18:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Not really. The image has to illustrate something that needs to be described to a reader to understand the topic, and which couldn't be relayed by any amount of words. Seeing the building with the companies name on it doesn't add to readers understanding of the Coalinga Oil Field. Do readers need to know anything specifically about that building, which that photo illustrates? -Optigan13 (talk) 06:48, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-11T06:48:00.000Z","author":"Optigan13","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Optigan13-2009-11-11T06:48:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-11-10T17:18:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-11-11T15:40:00.000Z-Optigan13-2009-11-11T06:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

The encyclopedic point isn't the building itself, but the (very prominent) identification signs painted on the roof. These signs form a visual "hook" to lead the reader into the corporate history of Standard Oil (etc.) at the Coalinga oilfield, which we discuss in some detail in the article. To me, that's enough "contextual significance" to justify fair use of a (probably copyright-expired) image. But I see your point, and won't take offense if you feel strongly enough to move to delete. Best regards, Pete Tillman (talk) 15:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-11T15:40:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-11-11T15:40:00.000Z-Optigan13-2009-11-11T06:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

An image or media file that you uploaded or altered, File:SOCoalinga.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Optigan13 (talk) 07:03, 14 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-14T07:03:00.000Z","author":"Optigan13","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Optigan13-2009-11-14T07:03:00.000Z-File:SOCoalinga.jpg_listed_for_deletion","replies":[]}}-->

I'm trying to figure out your objection here so I can accommodate you. Are you objecting to the fact that there are independent code analyses going on? Are you objecting to the description of comments talking about fake data and the problem of different national datasets reusing the same fake data and causing problems because of that? Specifically, what do you want better documented? TMLutas (talk) 06:48, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-26T06:48:00.000Z","author":"TMLutas","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TMLutas-2009-11-26T06:48:00.000Z-why_the_fact_tag_on_the_programmer_comments_paragraph_(CRU_data_incident)","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-11-26T16:42:00.000Z-TMLutas-2009-11-26T06:48:00.000Z","c-Tillman-2009-11-26T17:26:00.000Z-TMLutas-2009-11-26T06:48:00.000Z"]}}-->

Hi -- I'm fine with the independent studies -- which are a good idea -- but just that it needs a cite. Maybe there is one by now? Cheers -- Pete Tillman (talk) 16:42, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-26T16:42:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-11-26T16:42:00.000Z-TMLutas-2009-11-26T06:48:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Here is a substantial new discussion of the issue. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 17:26, 26 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-26T17:26:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-11-26T17:26:00.000Z-TMLutas-2009-11-26T06:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Evensong-2009-12-02T08:40:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-11-26T17:26:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Speaking of CRU, I have been following the discussion at the Climategate page. That led me to this: Talk:Climatic Research Unit. It seems that WMC has an objection to the Time's implication or statement that CRU made predictions. His objection has delayed the inclusion of your proposed edit. If it is indeed true that CRU does not "do predictions", then they have a very odd way of not doing them. I went to the CRU's webpage. According to CRU, one of its three reasons for being is to make "prospects for the future". If you click the "Publications" link on CRU's webpage, you will find publications of CRU nearly all of which make predictions. Evensong (talk) 08:40, 2 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-02T08:40:00.000Z","author":"Evensong","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Evensong-2009-12-02T08:40:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-11-26T17:26:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks but no thanks, honestly I think that whole area will just be a huge waste of time at the moment. Perhaps in a few months. Unomi (talk) 22:13, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-03T22:13:00.000Z","author":"Unomi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Unomi-2009-12-03T22:13:00.000Z-re_CRU_section","replies":[]}}-->

Your making this edit was not a good decision, since it was obvious that at least three experienced users objected to it. I am happy to see that you didn't re-revert, but in the future please use the talk page before making controversial edits. Cheers. Abecedare (talk) 17:32, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-05T17:32:00.000Z","author":"Abecedare","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Abecedare-2009-12-05T17:32:00.000Z-Climatic_Research_Unit_e-mail_hacking_incident","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-12-05T17:57:00.000Z-Abecedare-2009-12-05T17:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

This edit was a revert, and I'd urge you to read my note at Talk regarding this -- and the same discussion ongoing at Talk:Climatic Research Unit. Clear NPOV violation in my view. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 17:57, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-05T17:57:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-12-05T17:57:00.000Z-Abecedare-2009-12-05T17:32:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Hi. Unless I'm seriously misreading something, you're making an accusation of misconduct against a living person here. Per our WP:BLP policy, you need to provide something more than a self-published source. Guettarda (talk) 03:05, 16 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-16T03:05:00.000Z","author":"Guettarda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Guettarda-2009-12-16T03:05:00.000Z-Climatic_Research_Unit_e-mail_hacking_incident","replies":[]}}-->

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Sorry, mate, but I had to revert one of your edits. In the Sunrise Dam Gold Mine article, you put the Acacia logo in the infobox, I think that would be missleading as Acacia doesn't exist anymore and therefore also isn't the owner of the mine anymore. Merry Christmas, Calistemon (talk) 00:10, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-24T00:10:00.000Z","author":"Calistemon","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Calistemon-2009-12-24T00:10:00.000Z-Sunrise_Dam_Gold_Mine","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-12-24T01:02:00.000Z-Calistemon-2009-12-24T00:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oops. NP. Nice satphoto, eh? Cheers -- Pete Tillman (talk) 01:02, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-24T01:02:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-12-24T01:02:00.000Z-Calistemon-2009-12-24T00:10:00.000Z","replies":["c-Calistemon-2009-12-24T01:14:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-12-24T01:02:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Very nice sat photo, I have to agree. Are you motivated to create some more for the other Western Australian gold mine articles? Calistemon (talk) 01:14, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-24T01:14:00.000Z","author":"Calistemon","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Calistemon-2009-12-24T01:14:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-12-24T01:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-12-24T01:31:00.000Z-Calistemon-2009-12-24T01:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

Just as I come across them -- I subscribe to NASA's new picture release emails, and post those that are applicable to WP. I've never worked in OZ, and never even been to WA, so my on-the-ground expertise there is nil. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 01:31, 24 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-24T01:31:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-12-24T01:31:00.000Z-Calistemon-2009-12-24T01:14:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Either you have not read our policy on personal attacks, or you have chosen to ignore it. Calling other editors stupid is not acceptable. Reposting links to your personal attacks is not acceptable. Guettarda (talk) 00:02, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T00:02:00.000Z","author":"Guettarda","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Guettarda-2009-12-29T00:02:00.000Z-Personal_attacks","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-12-29T01:04:00.000Z-Guettarda-2009-12-29T00:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

My post in full:

[shakes head] Guettarda, your logic is... breathtaking. What part of alleged don't you understand? Unless you think CRU is judge & jury both? Get a clue, guy(s). Best, Pete Tillman

Please point out where I called other editors "stupid", and, for that matter, what you perceive as a Personal Attack in this post.

You seem a bit touchy, I must say. --Pete Tillman (talk) 01:04, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T01:04:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-12-29T01:04:00.000Z-Guettarda-2009-12-29T00:02:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Have you seen this: Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case#Climate_Change?

They are still working out the list of parties and whom to notify, so you may yet get formal notification, but just thought I'd make sure you knew.--SPhilbrickT 18:27, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-31T18:27:00.000Z","author":"Sphilbrick","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Sphilbrick-2009-12-31T18:27:00.000Z-ArbCom","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-01-02T18:52:00.000Z-Sphilbrick-2009-12-31T18:27:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the heads-up. So far, so good. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:52, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-02T18:52:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-01-02T18:52:00.000Z-Sphilbrick-2009-12-31T18:27:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

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Thanks for the new pictures! Since it's finally clear to everyone (admitting the possibility that it was clear to everyone else a good while ago) that it's only Black Canyon City, a few questions: (1) Any idea if the boundary increase simply included a location change? I think this happens sometimes.

I think it was just an expansion -- there are archaeol, sites on the Forest Service lands adjacent, and some of the BLM land that wasn't included in AFNM

(2) Did you get any pictures when you were out there?

Sorry, no -- I'm not much of a photographer :-[

(3) Since you say that the book includes a description, could you post somewhat of the description, referencing the book? We don't always leave "Address Restricted" as restricted, if we have a reliable source for the information, although it's good to note in the citation that the NRIS lists it as restricted. Thanks! Nyttend (talk) 12:01, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-30T12:01:00.000Z","author":"Nyttend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nyttend-2009-03-30T12:01:00.000Z-Yavapai_County","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-03-30T18:51:00.000Z-Nyttend-2009-03-30T12:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sure. Actually, I've been thinking I should start the Perry Mesa Archaeoligical District article, and that would be a logical place. Do you have an URL for the NRHP declarations for there? Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:51, 30 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-30T18:51:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-03-30T18:51:00.000Z-Nyttend-2009-03-30T12:01:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I like the Hopi mural pic you added to Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/Editor help. And glad there's a suggestion therefore that someone reads there....

Just a note/question: it's a pic of an artwork, and as such i am not sure about its copyright for use in wikipedia. The photograph, which the description says is a photo by a Fed employee, is not itself copyrighted. But art works are different, there are much tougher rules about these. In general you cannot take pics of any modern art sculptures, even in public places, and upload them to wikipedia. I did just recently participate in wp:Wikipedia Loves Art, an event in cooperation with museums in which people went and took pics of old art in museums that is public domain, but i thought the cutoff was 1927 or older, or something like that. I am not going to go out of my way about this one, further complicated by the fact it is Federal pic, but perhaps you should look into the art copyright stuff, as someone else may bring it up. Really neat mural, actually, and Mary Jane Colter sure did good work with the series of compatible structures along the South Rim. doncram (talk) 18:35, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-10T18:35:00.000Z","author":"Doncram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doncram-2009-04-10T18:35:00.000Z-Hopi_mural","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-04-10T18:53:00.000Z-Doncram-2009-04-10T18:35:00.000Z"]}}-->

Heh. I just got into this over at Talk:Rhyolite, Nevada re Commons:Freedom of panorama -- you're right, it's messy. Kabootie was a sort-of Federal employee then, and it is an official NPS photo. Still, maybe not the best choice for an example... Maybe substitute File:Lace House.jpg, from HABS?? Assuming it's NRHP-listed, can't imagine not. Great building. Haven't been back there since the casinos came in. They kinda made a mess at Cripple Creek. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:53, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-10T18:53:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-04-10T18:53:00.000Z-Doncram-2009-04-10T18:35:00.000Z","replies":["c-Doncram-2009-04-10T19:18:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-04-10T18:53:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Oh, okay, yes it's about panoramas and all that. Just browsed the wikipedia loves art stuff, they're announcing winners in some areas but not the one i participated in yet. It seems the cutoff for most purposes in that event was 1927. I like the Lace House pic though, neat looking. As you must know, anything in HABS is public domain, the HABS project was specifically set up that way, unlike some other NPS website photos which may in fact be copyrighted. Nice job in fully describing that HABS pic in your upload. I've seen others where photographer and date are not credited, even though available somewhere. User:KudzuVine has done a lot of good uploading of HABS pics too, many showing in List of NHLs in SC for example. doncram (talk) 19:18, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-10T19:18:00.000Z","author":"Doncram","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Doncram-2009-04-10T19:18:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-04-10T18:53:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-04-10T20:36:00.000Z-Doncram-2009-04-10T19:18:00.000Z"]}}-->

Lace House is probably in the Central City-Black Hawk Historic District, but rather than find out for sure, I'll plug in this nice HAER photo: File:CoolidgeDam.jpg. --Pete Tillman (talk) 20:36, 10 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-10T20:36:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-04-10T20:36:00.000Z-Doncram-2009-04-10T19:18:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Thanks for adding the ZCTA populations! Just one note — the official name is "ZIP Code Tabulation Area", not "Zip Code Tabulation Area". Also, could you add sources for the ZIP codes for the communities? If my request isn't clear, look at what I did to Arivaca. Nyttend (talk) 14:42, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-20T14:42:00.000Z","author":"Nyttend","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nyttend-2009-04-20T14:42:00.000Z-ZCTA","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-04-20T14:48:00.000Z-Nyttend-2009-04-20T14:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks. Do you really think we need to cite ZIP codes? That seems a bit like citing county or state locations. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 14:48, 20 April 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-04-20T14:48:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-04-20T14:48:00.000Z-Nyttend-2009-04-20T14:42:00.000Z","replies":["c-Nyttend-2009-05-08T11:24:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-04-20T14:48:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Didn't see your reply until now on this...yes, just like anything else. We cite county/state with GNIS or Census Bureau information, and when we're dealing with ZCTAs, it's more important, because the Census Bureau data doesn't tell you what ZIP code goes with what community. Nyttend (talk) 11:24, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-08T11:24:00.000Z","author":"Nyttend","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Nyttend-2009-05-08T11:24:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-04-20T14:48:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-05-08T16:36:00.000Z-Nyttend-2009-05-08T11:24:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for the explanation. Yes, it is a bit of a slog figuring out what area a ZCTA really covers. --Pete Tillman (talk) 16:36, 8 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-05-08T16:36:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-05-08T16:36:00.000Z-Nyttend-2009-05-08T11:24:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

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Hi Pete,

I just re-read the material for renaming the CRU incident page and saw you've changed your Opposed (now stricken) to Support (not listed). You might want to make sure it's listed under the support heading? Troed (talk) 11:33, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T11:33:00.000Z","author":"Troed","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Troed-2009-12-29T11:33:00.000Z-Name_change_support","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-12-29T18:19:00.000Z-Troed-2009-12-29T11:33:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, but I think I'll let it stand as is -- the new title would be an improvement, but not much of one, in my view. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:19, 29 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-29T18:19:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-12-29T18:19:00.000Z-Troed-2009-12-29T11:33:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Hello. Thanks for finding the engraving of "King Malcolm's grave stone" (Glamis no. 2 in boring academic terms). While it's far from certain that it has anything to do with any King Malcolm, the most likely candidate was Malcolm II of Scotland, who at least might have died at Glamis - Malcolm III was killed in England, was buried there and later reburied in Dumfermline - so I moved it there. Thanks again, Angus McLellan (Talk) 22:59, 23 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-23T22:59:00.000Z","author":"Angusmclellan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Angusmclellan-2010-01-23T22:59:00.000Z-\"King_Malcolm's_grave_stone\"","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-01-24T03:09:00.000Z-Angusmclellan-2010-01-23T22:59:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Angus McLellan"}}-->

Thanks! -- Pete Tillman (talk) 03:09, 24 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-24T03:09:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-01-24T03:09:00.000Z-Angusmclellan-2010-01-23T22:59:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

So... is Newsnight a RS for computer code? Is taht section, in your veiew, believable? No weaseling, please William M. Connolley (talk) 19:52, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-28T19:52:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-01-28T19:52:00.000Z-Newsnight_RS_for_computer_code?","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-01-28T19:55:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-01-28T19:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

William: I really don't know, but lots of other (UK?) folks think so. Why not RfC it at WP:RS if you don't think it is? Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 19:55, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-28T19:55:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-01-28T19:55:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-01-28T19:52:00.000Z","replies":["c-William_M._Connolley-2010-01-28T19:58:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-01-28T19:55:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

No, I was intersted in your opinions. Palming it off to an RFC is weaseling. I thought you might have an opinion of some value... but if you don't, OK William M. Connolley (talk) 19:58, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-28T19:58:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-01-28T19:58:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-01-28T19:55:00.000Z","replies":["c-A_Quest_For_Knowledge-2010-01-29T03:03:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-01-28T19:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Of course BBC News is a reliable source. This is one of those arguments that is so ridiculous, I'm shocked it's even being made. A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 03:03, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-29T03:03:00.000Z","author":"A Quest For Knowledge","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-A_Quest_For_Knowledge-2010-01-29T03:03:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-01-28T19:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-01-29T17:41:00.000Z-A_Quest_For_Knowledge-2010-01-29T03:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Oh, I don't know. The business of whether Climategate should be in the lede, whether it should be in "scare quotes" or bolded -- well, angels dancing on pins have nothing on us.... Sigh. Pete Tillman (talk) 17:41, 29 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-29T17:41:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-01-29T17:41:00.000Z-A_Quest_For_Knowledge-2010-01-29T03:03:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

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Would you consider looking at this list? I'm trying to purge the less notable artists and don't know quite as much about who's who in ceramics as I would like to. Thanks for any edits or suggestions! Cheers, Uyvsdi (talk) 00:22, 17 November 2009 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-17T00:22:00.000Z","author":"Uyvsdi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Uyvsdi-2009-11-17T00:22:00.000Z-List_of_Native_American_artists","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-11-17T04:49:00.000Z-Uyvsdi-2009-11-17T00:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'll be happy to, though any substantial work will probably have to wait until I get back to Arizona, where the bulk of my art library is.

I also see many prominent artists who still need wikibios, and will work on some of those as time permits.

Thanks for your continuing work on this project. I've been working on other things, so this is a good spur to do some more work on Native American art. Best regards, Pete Tillman (talk) 04:49, 17 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-17T04:49:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-11-17T04:49:00.000Z-Uyvsdi-2009-11-17T00:22:00.000Z","replies":["c-Uyvsdi-2009-11-17T17:44:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-11-17T04:49:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

No hurry. Thank so much for adding information about Michael Kabotie. Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 17:44, 17 November 2009 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-11-17T17:44:00.000Z","author":"Uyvsdi","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Uyvsdi-2009-11-17T17:44:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-11-17T04:49:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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As this RFC closes, there are two proposals being considered:

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Your opinion on this is welcome. Okip 02:03, 24 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-24T02:03:00.000Z","author":"Okip","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Okip-2010-02-24T02:03:00.000Z-Final_discussion_for_Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment\/Biographies_of_living_people","replies":[]}}-->

I wanted to let you know that I have just created the new article Climate change exaggeration. Grundle2600 (talk) 02:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-02-25T02:02:00.000Z","author":"Grundle2600","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Grundle2600-2010-02-25T02:02:00.000Z-Climate_change_exaggeration","replies":[]}}-->

It's Lahaina. The photo shows a corner of the Pioneer Inn. Here is the page to the Lahaina Restoration Foundation about the Courthouse.--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 07:30, 2 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-02T07:30:00.000Z","author":"293.xx.xxx.xx","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-293.xx.xxx.xx-2010-03-02T07:30:00.000Z-Old_Lahaina_Courthouse?","replies":[]}}-->

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Hope to see you this weekend! Cheers, -Uyvsdi (talk) 02:33, 5 March 2010 (UTC)Uyvsdi[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-05T02:33:00.000Z","author":"Uyvsdi","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Uyvsdi-2010-03-05T02:33:00.000Z-Heard","replies":[]}}-->

Can you comment on this upload you once made on enwp? commons:Commons:Deletion requests/File:Hayes in LA.jpg —TheDJ (talk • contribs) 15:42, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-09T15:42:00.000Z","author":"TheDJ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheDJ-2010-03-09T15:42:00.000Z-File:Hayes_in_LA.jpg","replies":[]}}-->

RfD copied here, so I can archive it:

This is a seperate work from the LA times. they started renewing weekday issues in 1962. That makes LAT issues between 1928 and 1933 public domain due to lack of renewel. This image is from 1947, so no evidence the issue should be PD, let alone the photograph with seperate copyright. TheDJ (talk) 15:41, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-09T15:41:00.000Z","author":"TheDJ","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TheDJ-2010-03-09T15:41:00.000Z-File:Hayes_in_LA.jpg_2","replies":["c-PDTillman-2010-03-09T19:24:00.000Z-TheDJ-2010-03-09T15:41:00.000Z"]}}-->

KEEP. Here's my source for the LA Times renewals [3]:

• "Los Angeles Times: issues renewed from January 5, 1958 (v. 77); see registered works database; initially Sundays, with daily issues renewed apparently starting in 1962."

I'm the original uploader. I interpreted this as saying that issues with publication date of 1958 (vol. 77) and later were renewed, but I see that the quote above does appear ambiguous. However, this doc confirms that Vol. 77 is indeed 1958, so I believe my reading is correct, and thus the 1947 LA Times issues are PD for expiration of copyright.

As you say, it is possible to copyright newspaper photos separately. However, routine news photos like this were almost certainly taken by a staff photographer as "work for hire", and hence copyright belonged to the LA Times and has expired. The photo is (almost certainly) PD for non-renewal. PDTillman (talk) 19:24, 9 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-09T19:24:00.000Z","author":"PDTillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-PDTillman-2010-03-09T19:24:00.000Z-TheDJ-2010-03-09T15:41:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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hi my name is noam and i made the edit bout Kuznets's curve. wanted to say that you are right about not being able to change a quote- i thought the language was paraphrasing since it does not appear in citation marks, the problem with the quote is that it seems like this is a discovery of a ruleof nature like the earth being rounded and revolving around the sun. the question whether the idea holds is complex and disputable.one of the more elaborate discussions about the complexity of this issue is presented by Timothy Patrick Moran in an article titled "Kuznets's Inverted U-Curve Hypothesis: The Rise, Demise, and Continued Relevance of a Socioeconomic Law" # Sociological Forum, Vol. 20, No. 2 (Jun., 2005), pp. 209-244 he argues both sides. Ricardo et al find it to be faulty in the case of Bolivia "Do Markets Worsen Economic Inequalities? Kuznets in the Bush" Human Ecology, Vol. 32, No. 3 (Jun., 2004), pp. 339-364. and similar results are found by Rossi et al. who explore the Kuznets Curve in regards to Italian inequality rates "Is the Kuznets Curve Still Alive? Evidence from Italian Household Budgets, 1881-1961" The Journal of Economic History, Vol. 61, No. 4 (Dec., 2001), pp. 904-925. regardless of their finding they even cite Kuznets himself saying that his findings are 5% based on facts and 95% based on intuition and wishful thinking. all of these are available on Jstore.org and none prove that it is not true but that it is not really a discovery but a disputable theory. since i am not a regular editor of wiki and am not very comfortable writing in English i am inclined ot make the edits my self but this is for the discussion. noam —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.254.166.254 (talk) 22:25, 18 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-03-18T22:25:00.000Z","author":"64.254.166.254","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-64.254.166.254-2010-03-18T22:25:00.000Z-Kuznets's_curve","replies":[]}}-->

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Hey, glad to see you joined up at wp:NRHP. Welcome, from a fellow member. Please feel free to post any questions or comments at the talk page, shortcut wt:NRHP. Also, please feel free to post any new articles that you create, at the New Articles box on the main page, just add your new article name there. That tends to attract some helpful others' attention. Unfortunately i am not local to Yavapai, but i visited there with the Don Quixotic purpose of capturing all of its NRHP sites for wikipedia listing with pics. It turns out Yavapai has too many, too widely scattered sites for me to get to all of them. I actually wandered around in a fog one morning early at the top of Mingus mountain, and could not find the lookout towers. Also i trekked far into Agua Caliente or something like that, to find a solitary Ranger station. Fun, and got it, but cost half a day, and almost lost my car in a puddle. You need a jeep to get to some of these Ranger stations, lookouts, and bridges! And then i didn't post my pics and start articles right away, so i am further afraid i will not be able to match up my pics to the correct NRHP sites. Please feel free to start up any new articles out of redlinks the National Register of Historic Places listings in Yavapai County, Arizona list article. If you would please make any edit at the list-article, like beginning a description, then I will notice it off my watchlist and know to come visit the new article. There are useful tools like an NRHP infobox generator which I can tell you about later. Really glad you are on board! Cheers, doncram (talk) 00:23, 21 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-21T00:23:00.000Z","author":"Doncram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Doncram-2009-03-21T00:23:00.000Z-welcome_to_NRHP!","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-03-22T02:25:00.000Z-Doncram-2009-03-21T00:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, and thanks for the mini-archive thingie! Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 02:25, 22 March 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-03-22T02:25:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-03-22T02:25:00.000Z-Doncram-2009-03-21T00:23:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

[moved from Talk:Soon and Baliunas controversy - in reply to the second paragraph of this]

Erm? Sorry Pete, but that the MWP globally (or just the Northern Hemisphere) should have been warmer than the last part of the 20th century, is supported by no hemispheric og global temperature reconstruction. I will repeat that: None, Zip, Zero. (not even the Loehle reconstruction after he corrected it for errors) - So who are the people who (once again) think that the MWP was as warm as the CWP?

When you are referring to Briffa, do you have a recent comment? Or are you just picking up on a comment from a 1999 email[4]? I hope you aren't, since as you should know that a lot of water has run under the bridge since that time, and that more and more reconstructions (and papers) have shown the opposite. (including Briffa's own papers). --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 22:33, 30 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-30T22:33:00.000Z","author":"KimDabelsteinPetersen","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-KimDabelsteinPetersen-2009-12-30T22:33:00.000Z-Re:_MWP_as_warm_as_CWP","replies":["c-Tillman-2009-12-31T19:12:00.000Z-KimDabelsteinPetersen-2009-12-30T22:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Kim D. Petersen"}}-->

Hi, Kim & thanks for the note.

FWIW, my take on the matter, as an informed outsider, is that the proxy data aren't good enough to tell. IMO, the error bands on the published work I've looked at in detail are understated, sometimes grossly so. The level of statistical expertise demonstrated in climate science is generally pretty dismal, imo -- and I'm pretty knowledgeable about these sort of statistics, both from training and from experience.

There is a fair bit of empirical evidence that the MWP was somewhat warmer than CWP: treelines, crop plantings, Greenland colonies etc etc. So your categorical statement above just isn't true.

There's the additional problem that we don't (imo) currently have a good historical climate record, after all the mysterious manipulations and "value added" by CRU, GISS, and others. The best evidence of this I've seen is the satellite record: See, forex, Douglass & Christy 2009, Fig 1. [5]. I think you'll find this a provocative (& short) paper. This graph supports my strong impression that the current versions of the historical temp record are biassed warm, for the past 3 or 4 decades, and suspect elsewhen.

I agree, a bit OT at S&B contro, but interesting, no? Best for 2010, Pete Tillman (talk) 19:12, 31 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2009-12-31T19:12:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tillman-2009-12-31T19:12:00.000Z-KimDabelsteinPetersen-2009-12-30T22:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-KimDabelsteinPetersen-2010-01-02T02:08:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-12-31T19:12:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Pete, best for 2010 as well :) But now for the more serious part...

Note that i said "hemispheric or global reconstruction", those are the synthesis of the proxy records, not individual records. When you look at individual proxy records, they will often show a clear and distinct MWP and LIA, but when you combine the view with other proxies, then the picture changes: The LIA is still distinct, but the MWP gets "fuzzy"... This happens because the while individual records may have a period around 800-1200 years ago that was warm/cold/wet/dry - they often do not match other proxy records temporally, and thus the synthesis period for the hemisphere/globe doesn't show the same distinct signal. For instance Fenno-Scandia was probably warmer than Fenno-Scandia is today - but other regions were not. (ie. the statistics do not show the same signal as individual records).

Without going into detail on the temp-record, i will point out that the temp-record that has the most value-adding and which changes the most between corrections is the Sat-record, making the reliability of that record rather suspect. This is the reason that the NAS committee at the time considered that the disparacy in the tropical record between surface records and satellite most likely is a problem with the sat-record. --Kim D. Petersen (talk) 02:08, 2 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-01-02T02:08:00.000Z","author":"KimDabelsteinPetersen","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-KimDabelsteinPetersen-2010-01-02T02:08:00.000Z-Tillman-2009-12-31T19:12:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Kim D. Petersen"}}-->

WP:PROJCATS. Categorizing images as if they were articles is not a longstanding custom; it's a longstanding error that's supposed to be cleaned up when it's encountered. Articlespace categories are for articles; imagespace categories are for images. Bearcat (talk) 04:14, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-29T04:14:00.000Z","author":"Bearcat","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bearcat-2010-06-29T04:14:00.000Z-Images","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-06-29T04:20:00.000Z-Bearcat-2010-06-29T04:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

This doesn't appear to be correct -- please see Categorizing images, which says "images can be in the same category as other pages..." So I suggest you self-revert, unless I'm missing something here. Thanks, Pete Tillman (talk) 04:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-06-29T04:20:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-06-29T04:20:00.000Z-Bearcat-2010-06-29T04:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bearcat-2010-07-06T20:12:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-06-29T04:20:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I think you're misreading that; it doesn't say that images should be in the same categories as articles — it's merely a description of how images display in a category listing, and has since been superceded by other policies and practices regarding where images should be categorized. What you also need to consider is actual practice as it stands; most images on Wikipedia are filed only in image-specific categories and not in the same articlespace categories that are present on their parent articles.

You need only look at most categories (and/or most images) to see that images are very rarely categorized in articlespace — they're almost always cordoned off into image-specific categories, and the few that are filed directly in articlespace have largely been sitting there since well before imagespace categories were implemented in the first place and simply haven't been cleaned up yet. Is there an actual reason why Hosteen Klah should stand as some kind of unique exception to the way most other photographs are categorized? Is there something that makes his photograph subject to special considerations that are different from other photographs of people? Is there a reason why his photograph needs to be categorized differently than other similar photographs are?

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You have text there that purports to be from me, and others. I don't think I wrote that, there. You should make clear where you got that from William M. Connolley (talk) 08:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T08:43:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-07-19T08:43:00.000Z-User:Tillman\/HSI-MEM_controversy","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-07-19T20:58:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-07-19T08:43:00.000Z"]}}-->

Old drafts and notes, semi-dead. I should archive or discard.... Busy now. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 20:58, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T20:58:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-07-19T20:58:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-07-19T08:43:00.000Z","replies":["c-William_M._Connolley-2010-07-19T21:00:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-07-19T20:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

OK. I'll blank it for you, since you can't be bothered to make it honest William M. Connolley (talk) 21:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T21:00:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-07-19T21:00:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-07-19T20:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-07-19T21:05:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-07-19T21:00:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fine. Pete Tillman (talk) 21:05, 19 July 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-07-19T21:05:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-07-19T21:05:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-07-19T21:00:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Thanks for your anecdote as a geologist, it's a field I've found interesting though of course I'm no expert. My particular interest has been in the geologists Charles Darwin and James Hutton. The latter led me to descend a perilous grass slope to the sacred spot, thought the links and image might amuse you :-) . . . dave souza, talk 17:50, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T17:50:00.000Z","author":"Dave souza","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Dave_souza-2010-08-25T17:50:00.000Z-Thanks_for_the_anecdote","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-08-25T20:43:00.000Z-Dave_souza-2010-08-25T17:50:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for this. I recently read Stephen Baxter's biography of Hutton, "Ages in chaos : James Hutton and the discovery of deep time", and enjoyed it. I would love to geologize in Scotland sometime... Siccar Pt. does look like a perilous place!

My hero from this period was William Smith (geologist), a practical-minded mine and canal surveyor who invented geologic mapping. Not bad for a country boy. Simon Winchester's biography of Smith is worth reading. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 20:43, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T20:43:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-08-25T20:43:00.000Z-Dave_souza-2010-08-25T17:50:00.000Z","replies":["c-Dave_souza-2010-08-25T22:26:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-08-25T20:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Sounds good, will try to get into more detail and these books look interesting. Thanks, dave souza, talk 22:26, 25 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-25T22:26:00.000Z","author":"Dave souza","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Dave_souza-2010-08-25T22:26:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-08-25T20:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Thanks. I just knew there had to be better rooms to take pics of than that bedroom. Though the works in that bedroom were 1945 illustrations by Blumenschein's wife for an illustrated edition of Arabian Nights. The museum staff said they had been published but didn't know anything about what edition, etc. I also got pics of a couple 1908 paintings by her (Mary Greene Blumenschein). We don't seem to have an article on her yet. Yworo (talk) 02:52, 30 August 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-08-30T02:52:00.000Z","author":"Yworo","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Yworo-2010-08-30T02:52:00.000Z-Blumenschein_House","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Pete,

I noticed that you started the article on Clark Burchfiel. I've added a couple of extra references, but haven't done much else because I feel a little awkward about it: he was my structural geology professor. But I was thinking along those lines that it would be neat to try to get something going to write about some person, place, or event that is significant in the geology of the American West. I am well over-committed at the moment, but given the chance, I'd love to collaborate with you or others on this.

In any case, it is well past my bedtime, and failing sleeping, I should probably be getting work done instead of gabbing on Wikipedia. Cheers!

Awickert (talk) 06:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-09T06:32:00.000Z","author":"Awickert","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Awickert-2010-09-09T06:32:00.000Z-Clark_Burchfiel","replies":["c-Awickert-2010-09-10T04:05:00.000Z-Awickert-2010-09-09T06:32:00.000Z"]}}-->

Desert carbonates are bad on the boots and the body. I should put a picture online of my poor beloved hiking boots after mapping in the Buckskin Mountains, Rawhide Mountains, and Riverside Mountains. My wrist also has a nice scar from a sharp outcrop of Muav Marble. I strolled up 40-degree dip slopes because of how much grip the carbonates give you! It is a beautiful but nasty land of scree slopes, sharp rocks, teddy-bear chollas, and vertical mine shafts. Awickert (talk) 04:05, 10 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-10T04:05:00.000Z","author":"Awickert","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Awickert-2010-09-10T04:05:00.000Z-Awickert-2010-09-09T06:32:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I left a Q for you at Talk:The_Hockey_Stick_Illusion. Do please answer, or at least admit you're going to evade it William M. Connolley (talk) 07:47, 22 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-22T07:47:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-09-22T07:47:00.000Z-Talk:The_Hockey_Stick_Illusion","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-09-23T02:07:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-09-22T07:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

WMC: I'm not sure what you hoped to accomplish with an edit that clearly wasn't supported by consensus. I left a brief cmt re trimming at that talk page. Pete Tillman (talk) 02:07, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-23T02:07:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-09-23T02:07:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-09-22T07:47:00.000Z","replies":["c-William_M._Connolley-2010-09-23T07:27:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-09-23T02:07:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

You agree that the section should be trimmed - that is a start. But you oppose any attempt to actually trim it William M. Connolley (talk) 07:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-09-23T07:27:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-09-23T07:27:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-09-23T02:07:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Volcanoes, Volcanoguy asks: "if mines within volcanics should be included". I do not have a problem with volcanic pipes, stub quality level, start quality level. Copper minning in flood basalts is more of a problem, I think. Would u like to throw ur two cents? Thx. --Chris.urs-o (talk) 18:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-07T18:49:00.000Z","author":"Chris.urs-o","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Chris.urs-o-2010-10-07T18:49:00.000Z-WP:Volcanoes","replies":[]}}-->

You should know better than to use El Rego for an RS in a BLP [6] William M. Connolley (talk) 22:09, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-12T22:09:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-10-12T22:09:00.000Z-Lewis","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-10-12T22:27:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-10-12T22:09:00.000Z"]}}-->

This was the best article of 2 or 3 I looked at. Look back at what was there before. If you like, we can double-cite to (forex) The Daily Express. Now, there's a classy outfit...

Really, what's your beef with The Register? Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 22:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-12T22:27:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-10-12T22:27:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-10-12T22:09:00.000Z","replies":["c-William_M._Connolley-2010-10-12T22:49:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-10-12T22:27:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I'm not sure how to make sense of your question. The obvious answer is "it is not an RS" must have occurred to you. If your reply is "but that particular article is fine" then you run into the obvious trouble that the same could be said about agreat many other sources nominally not R. But there are other problems with that article, including SYN; see the talk page William M. Connolley (talk) 22:49, 12 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-12T22:49:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-10-12T22:49:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-10-12T22:27:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Dear Mr. Tillman, forgive me for intruding on your space, however, I thought you should be made aware: the above gentleman has been banned by Wikipedia on the topic of Climate Change. I am under the impression the suspension is for 6 months, it was unanimous and was the result of repeated and egregious policy violations. I believe your negotiating of the Lewis article will go a great deal smoother with the other editors now. Good luck. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bet0001970 (talk • contribs) 10:48, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-15T10:48:00.000Z","author":"Bet0001970","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bet0001970-2010-10-15T10:48:00.000Z-Lewis","replies":[]}}-->

I've taken the liberty of removing your quotation from the talk page because it's from a blog and seems to be making aaccusations of plagiarism against identifiable individuals. There is no prospect of us using this kind of material unless and until it reaches a level of verifiability beyond the fact that it appeared on McIntyre's blog. --TS 03:36, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-14T03:36:00.000Z","author":"Tony Sidaway","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T03:36:00.000Z-McIntyre","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-10-14T04:33:00.000Z-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T03:36:00.000Z"]}}-->

Please look at the post again -- I'm only talking about McIntyre [7], and we can certainly use quotes from the subject of a bio as RS for their own opinion. I think you over-reacted. --Pete Tillman (talk) 04:33, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-14T04:33:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-10-14T04:33:00.000Z-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T03:36:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T13:16:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-10-14T04:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

If he has unprintable opinion, we don't print it just because he expresses it. As far as I'm aware McIntyre's opinion on this matter is no more relevant on this subject than Michael Mann's opinion of the same affair would be relevant on his biographical article. Rather less relevant, in fact. --TS 13:16, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-14T13:16:00.000Z","author":"Tony Sidaway","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T13:16:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-10-14T04:33:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-10-14T20:33:00.000Z-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T13:16:00.000Z"]}}-->

On sleeping on it, I see what you objected to, and agree with you. McI's SPS opinion couldn't be used in the encyclopedia, and so shouldn't be on the talk page, either. Sorry! Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 20:33, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-14T20:33:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-10-14T20:33:00.000Z-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T13:16:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T21:39:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-10-14T20:33:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

No problem. Thanks for considering my objection carefully. --TS 21:39, 14 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-14T21:39:00.000Z","author":"Tony Sidaway","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-14T21:39:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-10-14T20:33:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I saw your message to Cla68 on his talk page. In one of his latest edits, Cla68 says he's going to be inactive on Wikipedia for a while for personal reasons. I too hope to see him back editing when he's able to. --TS 20:08, 15 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-15T20:08:00.000Z","author":"Tony Sidaway","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-15T20:08:00.000Z-Cla68","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-10-15T21:27:00.000Z-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-15T20:08:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks, Tony. Boy am I glad I didn't get caught up in that mess. Probably because I was very busy at work (& in the field with little or no web access) and hence not very active then. This CC stuff dos seem to bring out the worst in people -- me too.

If there's any good that came out of that hairball, it's that people do seem to be making more of an effort to be collegiate. And, of course, there were some genuinely disruptive editors on the ban list. On both sides. Sigh. --Pete Tillman (talk) 21:27, 15 October 2010 (UTC).[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-15T21:27:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-10-15T21:27:00.000Z-Tony_Sidaway-2010-10-15T20:08:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

• The instructions for a prescription I recently picked up:

INSERT 1 SUPPOSITORY PER RECTUM TWO TIMES A DAY.

Re [8]. WP:FLEAS William M. Connolley (talk) 21:39, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-19T21:39:00.000Z","author":"William M. Connolley","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-William_M._Connolley-2010-10-19T21:39:00.000Z-WP:FLEAS","replies":["c-Thegoodlocust-2010-10-19T22:28:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-10-19T21:39:00.000Z"]}}-->

[9] TheGoodLocust (talk) 22:28, 19 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-19T22:28:00.000Z","author":"Thegoodlocust","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Thegoodlocust-2010-10-19T22:28:00.000Z-William_M._Connolley-2010-10-19T21:39:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

On the whole, it seems likely that File:1935 Auburn Speedster.jpg would be deleted if it were nominated at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. The use in roadster certainly fails to meet the Wikipedia:non-free content criteria, and unless Auburns are frightfully rare it would fail in the Auburn article too. Having said that, it seems highly improbable that this image was copyrighted, which would make it {{PD-US-no-notice}}. Any chance you can ask the Flickr guy where he got it from? And if there was a copyright thingy on it? Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:52, 22 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-22T23:52:00.000Z","author":"Angusmclellan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Angusmclellan-2010-10-22T23:52:00.000Z-File:1935_Auburn_Speedster.jpg","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-10-23T00:42:00.000Z-Angusmclellan-2010-10-22T23:52:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Angus McLellan"}}-->

I'll ask. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 00:42, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-23T00:42:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-10-23T00:42:00.000Z-Angusmclellan-2010-10-22T23:52:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I actually just removed the merge thing from the Fort Bowie article but now I think you are right and it should be merged with the Fort Bowie National Historic Site article or deleted. I don't know how to merge an article or even if I can so please, if you can, start the process for merging or deletion, thanks.--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 00:54, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-23T00:54:00.000Z","author":"$1LENCE D00600D","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-$1LENCE_D00600D-2010-10-23T00:54:00.000Z-Fort_Bowie_Merge","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-10-23T15:11:00.000Z-$1LENCE_D00600D-2010-10-23T00:54:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for reminding me. I'll gt to it RSN ;-] Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 15:11, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-23T15:11:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-10-23T15:11:00.000Z-$1LENCE_D00600D-2010-10-23T00:54:00.000Z","replies":["c-$1LENCE_D00600D-2010-10-23T21:59:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-10-23T15:11:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

No problem :)--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 21:59, 23 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-10-23T21:59:00.000Z","author":"$1LENCE D00600D","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-$1LENCE_D00600D-2010-10-23T21:59:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-10-23T15:11:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, can you tell me what the source is for the image File:Perreau&Mineo.jpg, which you uploaded in 2008? It got lost in the transfer to Commons and I want to cleanup the description. Thanks Hekerui (talk) 16:55, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-09T16:55:00.000Z","author":"Hekerui","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Hekerui-2010-12-09T16:55:00.000Z-Sal_Mineo_image","replies":[]}}-->

I fixed it. The trick is to add "1=" here

Description={{en|1=Title:dahdahdah

It's a bug in the bot script. You might try reporting it -- I did AWB, but the squeaky wheel.... Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 18:58, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-09T18:58:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-12-09T18:58:00.000Z-Sal_Mineo_image","replies":["c-Hekerui-2010-12-09T20:52:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-09T18:58:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Thanks, I should have looked into the page content. I had assumed commens helper was used, which would normally allow for manual editing prior to upload to make sure that wasn't the outcome. Also weird how the bot move check box was removed without any fixes. Best regards Hekerui (talk) 20:52, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-09T20:52:00.000Z","author":"Hekerui","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Hekerui-2010-12-09T20:52:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-09T18:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-12-09T21:05:00.000Z-Hekerui-2010-12-09T20:52:00.000Z"]}}-->

I'd say about half of the Commons Helper transfers I see need to be edited to fix this bug. I wish the bot owner would fix it. Cheers, Pete Tillman (talk) 21:05, 9 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-09T21:05:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-12-09T21:05:00.000Z-Hekerui-2010-12-09T20:52:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Hi - call that blind co-editing, I was merrily editing the article for a couple hours - interspersed with watching the telly and didn't even notice that you were working on it also until I chopped that red RR link. I stopped and says to meself "where'd that come from?" so checked the history - heh, neat. Are you planning on makeng that redlink blue? Interesting RR line that I wasn't aware of ... haven't paid much attn to railroad articles. Anyways I'm done for awhile, cheers, Vsmith (talk) 03:58, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-18T03:58:00.000Z","author":"Vsmith","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Vsmith-2010-12-18T03:58:00.000Z-San_Manuel_Copper_Mine","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-12-18T06:06:00.000Z-Vsmith-2010-12-18T03:58:00.000Z"]}}-->

Heh. I just logged back on, thinking I'd send you a note. I should dig out my SM file -- I've worked in the area, and our article is better now, but still doesn't do it justice. San Manuel was a great mine. The original discovery is a pretty story, and J. David Lowell's discovery of Kalamazoo, the faulted-off lower half, is a classic geological detective tale. Lowell went on to discover Escondida, and lives a life of ease as a gentleman-rancher in Sonoita, Arizona -- well, not really, he's a driven man. He deserves an article, and I'll write it sometime, maybe. A great exploration geologist.

Alas, his Kalamazoo work came to naught. The orebody was developed & production had just started when BHP pulled the plug. Broke everyones heart that had worked so hard to keep the mine going through the lean years. It would be making a ton of money now. I have no idea what they were thinking. Smelter had just been rebuilt, too. A great mine, and a fully-permitted modern smelter, in Arizona.... turned into junk and salvage. Gah.

Onofre Tafoya's Mother Magma is well worth reading. I met him at a book fair in PHX when he gave a talk on his then-new book, and bought a copy. He was there from almost the start to the end. The human cost of UG mining, even in a well-run mine like SM, is sobering -- just takes a moment of inattention, or a hangover, to make a tragedy. Not a forgiving workplace. Best regards, Pete Tillman (talk) 06:06, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-18T06:06:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-12-18T06:06:00.000Z-Vsmith-2010-12-18T03:58:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vsmith-2010-12-18T16:14:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-18T06:06:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I heard a lot about the mine and visited the area on field trips from UA back in the 70s. John Guilbert and Spence Titley were my thesis advisors and the Lowell-Guilbert paper on "the" model had just been published so I learned a "bit" about it. Good to hear Lowell's a "gentleman rancher" - the Sonoita area is a beautiful place, I lived in Patagonia for a bit when I worked for Kerr-McGee ... before they pulled the plug on Red Mtn. Thought a bit about Chile then, but with two babies in the family decided to shift gears. Now I'm a "gentleman rancher" in the Ozarks :)

Go for it and write the Lowell article - let me know when you get it done.

Tafoya's book did look interesting - looked it up on Amazon to get isbn etc, his other book wasn't even listed on Amazon and didn't appear directly related - so I left it out.

Also, I chopped a bit of stuff from the Resolution Copper article, had noticed it before, but your tp note spurred me into action :) - needs more "smoothing". Onward... Vsmith (talk) 16:14, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-18T16:14:00.000Z","author":"Vsmith","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Vsmith-2010-12-18T16:14:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-18T06:06:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-12-18T19:43:00.000Z-Vsmith-2010-12-18T16:14:00.000Z"]}}-->

Do you keep up with Russ Corn and/or Dick Ahern? Last time I saw them, they both were still driving twin tan Suburbans they'd "inherited" from KM. And I know both Guilbert & Titley well -- I spent almost 30 years in & around Tucson. Small world....

My first job in mining was with KM in Front Range Colorado, prospecting for uranium, under Mike Fitzgerald. Best for hols, Pete Tillman (talk) 19:43, 18 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-18T19:43:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-12-18T19:43:00.000Z-Vsmith-2010-12-18T16:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-Vsmith-2010-12-19T04:40:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-18T19:43:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Glad to hear that Corn and Ahern are still truckin - I sorta lost track of everyone in that world during the 80s - 90s. Kept in contact with Jim Quinlan for a while, but haven't heard from him in several years. KM offered me a job in the uranium mines out of Casper, Wyo when they closed the Red Mtn project down, but I moved back to the Ozarks and took over the family farm instead. Neat that you worked for KM also.

I see you just added the Barren Lands book to Fipke's article. I got a copy on ebay couple years ago -- interesting read, learned a bit 'bout diamond geology.

Merry Christmas or bah Humbug, whichever suits your fancy :) (Just got back from shopping for the grandkids). Vsmith (talk) 04:40, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-19T04:40:00.000Z","author":"Vsmith","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Vsmith-2010-12-19T04:40:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-18T19:43:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

• Have a look at Hugo Dummett, which I just put up. Hugo gets a lot of the credit for Ekati, and went on to Oyu Tolgoi in Mongolia. I didn't realize he was dead. I used to see a fair bit of Hugo in Arizona & Nevada, and liked him a lot.

Mike Fitzgerald is also deceased, as of about a year ago -- don't know if you met him in your Red Mtn. tour. Sobering reminder. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 05:03, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-19T05:03:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-12-19T05:03:00.000Z-Hugo_Dummett,_diamonds,_etc.","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-12-19T05:09:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-19T05:03:00.000Z","c-Vsmith-2010-12-20T02:03:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-19T05:03:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

• Meant to add -- have a look at my review of Barren Lands, written for the AZ Geol Society back when. And go back to Talk:Ekati Diamond Mine for more cool stuff. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 05:09, 19 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-19T05:09:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-12-19T05:09:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-19T05:03:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Don't recall ever meeting Fitzgerald, but may have - memory blurs. You've written 400+ Amazon reviews! - bought a lot of books from Amazon. We ran a local bookstore/antique shop until a tornado hit it in 08 - also have three cats :)

You need to check the refs on Hugo Dummett article - seems the obit ref is a dead link and the mining technology ref doesn't mention his death - unless I've missed something. Vsmith (talk) 02:03, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-20T02:03:00.000Z","author":"Vsmith","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Vsmith-2010-12-20T02:03:00.000Z-Tillman-2010-12-19T05:03:00.000Z","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-12-20T21:58:00.000Z-Vsmith-2010-12-20T02:03:00.000Z"]}}-->

Fixed now -- thanks! Cheers -- Pete Tillman (talk) 21:58, 20 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-20T21:58:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-12-20T21:58:00.000Z-Vsmith-2010-12-20T02:03:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I am come across some unreasonable editors at Talk:Intergovernmental_Panel_on_Climate_Change. I don't think you have been a part of this dispute. It has been years since I have been a part of any dispute. I honestly don't remember the process. I think I am supposed to start off requesting something lesser. Can you help me research the process? There is no hurry. The issue is not going away. I just need some help.RonCram (talk) 15:34, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-24T15:34:00.000Z","author":"RonCram","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-RonCram-2010-12-24T15:34:00.000Z-I'm_requesting_an_arbcom_ruling","replies":["c-Tillman-2010-12-24T19:10:00.000Z-RonCram-2010-12-24T15:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ron -- I'll be away for the holidays, but can help after New Years, maybe a bit before. I have worked on that page in the past, but not (ims) in the current dispute. I doubt I will want to get very much involved in arbcom stuff -- I stayed very, very far away during the great CC shakeout, which suited me just fine. But I can do a little, maybe. Best for hols, Pete Tillman (talk) 19:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2010-12-24T19:10:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2010-12-24T19:10:00.000Z-RonCram-2010-12-24T15:34:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Hello, Tillman/Archive 3! WikiProject United States, an outreach effort supporting development of United States related articles in Wikipedia, has recently been restarted after a long period of inactivity. As a user who has shown an interest in United States related topics we wanted to invite you to join us in developing content relating to the United States. If you are interested please add your Username and area of interest to the members page here. Thank you!!!

--Kumioko (talk) 20:47, 4 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-01-04T20:47:00.000Z","author":"Kumioko","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kumioko-2011-01-04T20:47:00.000Z-Invitation_to_join_WikiProject_United_States","replies":[]}}-->

Thank you. I am tagging some files that fall under some of the templates relating to US government agencies such as the DEA, CIA and a few others. Not sure why they would have images of a Mexican church but it doesn't really surprise me either. --Kumioko (talk) 23:11, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-06T23:11:00.000Z","author":"Kumioko","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Kumioko-2011-02-06T23:11:00.000Z-Images_of_Mexico","replies":[]}}-->

Hi Tillman, you don't need to note the source of photos in their caption - this belongs in the file record for that photo. I've also removed the photo you added to the Military history of Australia during World War II ‎ article as it didn't really depict anything relevant to the article. Regards, Nick-D (talk) 23:32, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-02-26T23:32:00.000Z","author":"Nick-D","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Nick-D-2011-02-26T23:32:00.000Z-Photo_captions","replies":[]}}-->

Hi. You should read MOS:IMAGES. Also, Infoboxes usually precede images in an article. I've looked at some of the pages to which you have added images and I like the photos themselves. Be careful the images do not become the focus of the page. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Images need to augment the textual information and not overwhelm it.  –droll [chat] 04:53, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-02T04:53:00.000Z","author":"Droll","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Droll-2011-03-02T04:53:00.000Z-Photos_you_have_added","replies":["c-Tillman-2011-03-02T05:35:00.000Z-Droll-2011-03-02T04:53:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks for your comments.The ones you changed are fine with me. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 05:35, 2 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-02T05:35:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2011-03-02T05:35:00.000Z-Droll-2011-03-02T04:53:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

I am requesting a rename on Commons. My current Commons name is PDTillman. Pete Tillman (talk) 03:41, 8 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-03-08T03:41:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Tillman-2011-03-08T03:41:00.000Z-Commons_Rename_Request","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

Hi just a note to let you know I have reported the IP at the 3RRNB, regards. Off2riorob (talk) 10:22, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-02T10:22:00.000Z","author":"Off2riorob","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Off2riorob-2011-04-02T10:22:00.000Z-A_Watts","replies":["c-Tillman-2011-04-02T16:24:00.000Z-Off2riorob-2011-04-02T10:22:00.000Z"]}}-->

Thanks! He's being a pest. Best, Pete Tillman (talk) 16:24, 2 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-02T16:24:00.000Z","author":"Tillman","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Tillman-2011-04-02T16:24:00.000Z-Off2riorob-2011-04-02T10:22:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Pete Tillman"}}-->

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Undid revision 425604114 by Viriditas, unbalances lead, pls see talk

Please don't use false edit summaries again. If you do, I will report you. There is nothing on the talk page either by you or anyone else, indicating that my edits have unbalanced the lead. In fact, I have summarized from the article per WP:LEAD. I also responded to your query on the talk asking you to specifically point out the problems with my edits. Please do so. Viriditas (talk) 04:12, 24 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2011-04-24T04:12:00.000Z","author":"Viriditas","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Viriditas-2011-04-24T04:12:00.000Z-Your_revert","replies":[]}}-->