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Hello, I see you have created a new Cardinal Infobox. Would it be possible for you to change the colour of the box from purple (a bishop's colour) to the red of the cardinals? Its not major but is more aesthetically pleasing. Gavin Scott (talk) 18:34, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T18:34:00.000Z","author":"Gavin Scott","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:34:00.000Z-Cardinal_Infobox","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-05-26T18:37:00.000Z-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sure I can change the colour to the red of cardinals if you show me what it is. I would like to point out though I'm not actually the creator so I can't take all the credit for the template although as you pointed out I did restyle it recently. Its always nice to have constructive feedback on my work, so Thanks! The Quill (talk) 18:37, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T18:37:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-05-26T18:37:00.000Z-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:34:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I also note in the infobox there is an Other section. In the case of Cardinal O'Brien you put his previous post in this section, however it reads like the section means he holds the position in tandem with his Archbishopric. Can it be changed to Previous Position or just removed?Gavin Scott (talk) 18:40, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T18:40:00.000Z","author":"Gavin Scott","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:40:00.000Z-Cardinal_Infobox","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-05-26T18:48:00.000Z-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:40:00.000Z"]}}-->

Yeah I noticed this problem as well. I had meant to fix it earlier but forgot too. It is designed to show the posistions held both before and after their most imprtant posistion held which due to design faults is what must be selected. I can't seem to find a word that describes this secenario though and any suggestions you have would be greatly appreiciated. Once again it is not my template as I did not create it I have meraly tried to adapt and improve it although as you can see this doesn't always happen. The Quill (talk) 18:48, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T18:48:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-05-26T18:48:00.000Z-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:40:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Its the red that you would have seen in the Infobox cardinalbiog2, the one you changed. Gavin Scott (talk) 18:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T18:47:00.000Z","author":"Gavin Scott","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:47:00.000Z-Cardinal_Infobox","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-05-26T18:49:00.000Z-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:47:00.000Z"]}}-->

I am afraid that this particular template was deleted as it was no longer in usage. Is the same red used on temlpate:Infobox Catholic Cardinal? The Quill (talk) 18:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T18:49:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-05-26T18:49:00.000Z-Gavin_Scott-2008-05-26T18:47:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I have declined the speedy deletion of those two templates because they do not meet any of the criteria for speedy deletion. I suggest that if you want them deleted, you submit them to Templates for deletion. —Travis^talk 19:14, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T19:14:00.000Z","author":"TravisTX","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-TravisTX-2008-05-26T19:14:00.000Z-Speedy_deletion","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-05-26T20:02:00.000Z-TravisTX-2008-05-26T19:14:00.000Z"],"displayName":"Travis"}}-->

I believe that they do forfill the forsaid requirments. The two templates come under CSD T3; Templates which are duplicates of, hard-coded instances of, or an inferior alternative to, OtherTemplate. The Quill (talk) 20:02, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T20:02:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-05-26T20:02:00.000Z-TravisTX-2008-05-26T19:14:00.000Z","replies":["c-TravisTX-2008-05-26T21:57:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-05-26T20:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

You are correct about that, however they need to be tagged with {{db-t3}} rather than the generic {{delete}}. I stand corrected. Note that db-t3 has parameters and should be enclosed with <noinclude> and </noinclude>. Cheers —Travis^talk 21:57, 26 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-26T21:57:00.000Z","author":"TravisTX","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-TravisTX-2008-05-26T21:57:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-05-26T20:02:00.000Z","replies":[],"displayName":"Travis"}}-->

... overlaps on my monitor/browser. I was gonna send you a screen capture so you could see what I mean, but you don't have email enabled. Ling.Nut (talk) 09:30, 27 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-27T09:30:00.000Z","author":"Ling.Nut","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ling.Nut-2008-05-27T09:30:00.000Z-WP_Hist_Redesign","replies":["c-Ling.Nut-2008-05-27T09:41:00.000Z-Ling.Nut-2008-05-27T09:30:00.000Z"]}}-->

As I said on the WP History talk pae please leave comments there. Also that is just a fault that happens now and again on all wikipedia templates all you have to do is refresh the page. 09:35, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

Nope, refreshing has nothing to do with it. It's page layout versus monitor size/browser type. You seem a bit knowledgeable about templates for someone who has been around only a week  ;-) Good luck. Ling.Nut (talk) 09:41, 27 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-27T09:41:00.000Z","author":"Ling.Nut","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Ling.Nut-2008-05-27T09:41:00.000Z-Ling.Nut-2008-05-27T09:30:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Your well-intended changes created some havoc in several pope pages, as the new size and dimensions create ugly spaces on top of page. Please correct (revert) this unanticipated consequence.

Second point, The strong purple color does contrasts with pictures. The previous color as neutral and clearly better. Cheers --Ambrosius007 (talk) 21:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-29T21:02:00.000Z","author":"Ambrosius007","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Ambrosius007-2008-05-29T21:02:00.000Z-Template:Infobox_popestyles","replies":["c-Savidan-2008-05-29T22:01:00.000Z-Ambrosius007-2008-05-29T21:02:00.000Z"]}}-->

Ditto. Please be careful in the future before changing well-established templates signficantly where many articles are affected. I don't know what you did exactly, but the problem is apparent in Pope Pius XII (see the intro spacing). Kindly fix this at your earliest convenience. Savidan 22:01, 29 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-29T22:01:00.000Z","author":"Savidan","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Savidan-2008-05-29T22:01:00.000Z-Ambrosius007-2008-05-29T21:02:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-05-30T07:31:00.000Z-Savidan-2008-05-29T22:01:00.000Z"]}}-->

I see that many of you are concerned about the new template but I think you will find that this problem was always around. I experimented by reverting both popestyles and the new infobox for popes and the spaces were still there. It has nothing to do with the templates it is merely becasue when people wtick the infobox popestyles underneath the infobox pope, whatever version it may be you get a massive sapce. The Quill (talk) 07:31, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T07:31:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-05-30T07:31:00.000Z-Savidan-2008-05-29T22:01:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, you reverted my recent changes to the template, asserting that they were incorrect. The changes are in fact correct - I linked to the relevant articles. The term "United Kingdom" as used today is short for "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland", and before that after the act of union in 1801, it included all of Ireland. Can you explain why you believe the edits are incorrect? I'll watch this page for a reply. Thank you. --Bardcom (talk) 08:26, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T08:26:00.000Z","author":"Bardcom","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T08:26:00.000Z-Template:History_of_England","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-05-30T08:29:00.000Z-Bardcom-2008-05-30T08:26:00.000Z"]}}-->

I reverted your edit becasue once 1707 act of union took place England ceases to exist as an (offical) country. As such any changes that happen to it from that point onwards are actullly part of the UK and not England. The Quill (talk) 08:29, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T08:29:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-05-30T08:29:00.000Z-Bardcom-2008-05-30T08:26:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T09:34:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-05-30T08:29:00.000Z"]}}-->

I disagree. England did not cease to exist from 1707 onwards, and the template is not about whether it is an official (whatever that means) country or not. The United Kingdom is a union of four constituent countries: England, Northern Ireland, Scotland and Wales. It is still a country. And part of it's history is that is became part of a union in 1707, and became part of a different union in 1801, and a different one again in 1927. Using your logic, there should be no entries after 1707 when England ceased to exist. I await your reply. Thank you. --Bardcom (talk) 09:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T09:34:00.000Z","author":"Bardcom","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T09:34:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-05-30T08:29:00.000Z","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-05-30T09:42:00.000Z-Bardcom-2008-05-30T09:34:00.000Z"]}}-->

There are no entries after 1707 when England ceased to exist. England became part of a union in 1707, and became part of a different union in 1801 (on this much we can agree) however in 1927 part of that union broke of in the form of the Republic of Ireland this did not in anyway affect England merely the union. Anyway I am not going to get into a argument with you as I can sense that for some reason you have an immense amount of furstruation within you. The Quill (talk) 09:42, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T09:42:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":4,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-05-30T09:42:00.000Z-Bardcom-2008-05-30T09:34:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T10:01:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-05-30T09:42:00.000Z"]}}-->

Please be civil -- no personal comments please. What you are saying doesn't make sense and doesn't stack up. Using your logic, England ceased to exist in 1707 - if that's the case there shouldn't be an entry for 1801, but there is. Your assertion that England ceased to exist is also incorrect. I have reverted your edit, your reasoning doesn't stack up. --Bardcom (talk) 10:01, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T10:01:00.000Z","author":"Bardcom","type":"comment","level":5,"id":"c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T10:01:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-05-30T09:42:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

(outdent)I've copied this to the template Talk page - it's probably more appropriate to continue any further discussions there. --Bardcom (talk) 10:24, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T10:24:00.000Z","author":"Bardcom","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T10:24:00.000Z-Template:History_of_England","replies":[]}}-->

Hi, I don't have knowledge of the subject area. I noticed purely by coincidence that you made the changes immediately preceding the change I reverted. Could you check this anon IP edits please? I've reverted one based on the way that they switched the word Cardinal around, but I don't know enough about the others. Thanks ... --Bardcom (talk) 16:23, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T16:23:00.000Z","author":"Bardcom","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T16:23:00.000Z-On_a_completely_different_topic","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-05-30T17:10:00.000Z-Bardcom-2008-05-30T16:23:00.000Z"]}}-->

Sorry I dont actually follow what you have written here could I please request that you try to rephrase the above statement. The Quill (talk) 17:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T17:10:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-05-30T17:10:00.000Z-Bardcom-2008-05-30T16:23:00.000Z","replies":["c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T22:45:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-05-30T17:10:00.000Z"]}}-->

Apologies. I was looking at "Recent Changes" and I noticed that an anon IP address made some edits to a number of articles related to Justin Francis Rigali. It looked like vandalism to me, and I reverted. I then checked what the IP user had editted recently, and there were a lot of other edits, but it wasn't easy to determine if the edits were good, or vandalism. I then noticed that you had editted the Justin Francis Rigali article before the anon IP address, so I thought you would be ideally placed to review the other edits made by the anon IP 86.42.152.22. Apologies if you're not. You can click on the "this anon IP edits please" text above to see the edits made. Thank you. --Bardcom (talk) 22:45, 30 May 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-05-30T22:45:00.000Z","author":"Bardcom","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-Bardcom-2008-05-30T22:45:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-05-30T17:10:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

It might seem reasonable to revert the replacement of a good image with a worse one, but Wikipedia can only use free images, or fair-use ones when there is no free alternative. Even though the second penny image is worse, it is free, so we use that. Just in case you're tempted to be looking for coins - always good to illustrate medieval rulers - please be aware that even though photos of old paintings are nearly always in the public domain (Bridgeman Art Library v. Corel Corp. refers), pictures of old coins are usually not because coins are 3d objects. A pain in the neck.

While I'm here, regarding the {{Infobox British Royalty}} template, this is supposed to be for Wikipedia:WikiProject British Royalty use, i.e. from George I onwards. It really shouldn't appear on earlier rulers as it includes far too many fields which cannot be filled in. It's silly enough for it to be on James III of Scotland, but it is worse yet for it to be used on Alfred the Great. {{Infobox Monarch}} has as much info as can usually be found, and even for that half of it can't be filled in for Alfred the Great or Harold Godwinson. All the best, Angus McLellan (Talk) 23:47, 8 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-08T23:47:00.000Z","author":"Angusmclellan","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Angusmclellan-2008-06-08T23:47:00.000Z-Images_and_licenses_and_things","replies":[],"displayName":"Angus McLellan"}}-->

The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter

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Your actions on the above page are, at best, of extremely dubious justification. So far as I can tell, no one explicitly agreed to your proposed formatting when you proposed it. Since then, two editors, myself included, have on the talk page specifically indicated they prefer the older formatting. On this basis, your most recent in a series of unilateral revisions to impose your own tastes on the project page would seem, I believe, to most people to both be contrary to WP:CONSENSUS, which I very strongly suggest you read, potentially a violation of WP:VANDALISM, and almost certainly a violation of WP:OWN. Given the fact of the three, I am reverting your recent unilateral changes. If you wish your chosen version to be in place, then I suggest that you consult others, obtain consensus, and then make the changes. Consider, this, if you wish, a formal warning to cease such conduct immediately. Thank you. John Carter (talk) 16:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-17T16:13:00.000Z","author":"John Carter","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-John_Carter-2008-06-17T16:13:00.000Z-Wikipedia:WikiProject_History","replies":["c-The_Quill-2008-06-17T16:15:00.000Z-John_Carter-2008-06-17T16:13:00.000Z"]}}-->

I think you will find that a consens was reaached which has agreed to keeping the edit I made. The Quill (talk) 16:15, 17 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-17T16:15:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-06-17T16:15:00.000Z-John_Carter-2008-06-17T16:13:00.000Z","replies":["c-John_Carter-2008-06-17T16:18:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-06-17T16:15:00.000Z"]}}-->

No, actually, you won't. I did review the page. There were no parties who explicitly agreed to your proposal, although two people have since expressed disagreement. You appear to be developing a tendency toward dictating things based on your own opinions and beliefs. This would be a very bad habit to get into, particularly for such a new editor. I very strongly urge you to seek and obtain a clear consensus before acting in such a way again. John Carter (talk) 16:18, 17 June 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-06-17T16:18:00.000Z","author":"John Carter","type":"comment","level":3,"id":"c-John_Carter-2008-06-17T16:18:00.000Z-The_Quill-2008-06-17T16:15:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

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Archives  |  Tip Line  |  Editors The Christianity WikiProject Newsletter Issue VIII - July 2008 Project news We now have 53 featured articles 6 featured lists, and 130 good articles, with the recent promotions of Thomas Cranmer to FA class, List of encyclicals of Pope John XXIII to FL status, and Hugh de Puiset to GA level. Thanks to all those who worked on these articles! Portal:Lutheranism has been created, and other portals are being discussed. Please feel free to take part in the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. Member news The project currently has 239 members, 10 joined & 1 leavers since the start of June 2008. Other news Thomas S. Monson is currently a Good Article nominee. Related projects news New Projects and/or work groups have been proposed for Christian theology and Christian denomations. Christianity related news Former science director sues Texas over intelligent design e-mail Mormon church warns Wikileaks over documents From the Members Welcome to the Eighth issue of the WikiProject Christianity newsletter! Use this newsletter as a mechanism to inform yourselves about progress at the project and please be inspired to take more active roles in what we do. As many of you will know, we currently have several articles relating to the same basic topics. The articles in the Category:Baptism are one example of such. It is really in the interests of all of us to try to place as much content in the main article of such topics, and then have the other articles "branch off" from there and making the central article as good an article as possible. We also now have a proposal for a new general "Christianity" related award, similar to the Military history project's chevrons, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Christianity/General Forum. John Carter (talk), Lead Coordinator Newsletter challenge Last month's new article challenge, Church of Daniel's Band, was begun by User:Jack1956 and was included in the Main page's DYK section on June 15. Thank you to Jack1956 for his great work on creating this article! This month's article is Amended Christadelphians. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please list yourself in the appropriate section here.

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Hi there! You're a member of WikiProject History, so I'm just informing you about a proposal I've made about standardizing History of [country] templates (like Template:History of France). The discussion is located at the talk page for WikiProject History—your comments and criticism are welcome. Thank you. Mr. Absurd (talk) 05:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-07-25T05:15:00.000Z","author":"Mr. Absurd","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Mr._Absurd-2008-07-25T05:15:00.000Z-Proposal_for_standard_infobox_for_History_of_[country]_templates","replies":[]}}-->

The Judaism Newsletter Issue II -- Tammuz, 5768

WikiProject Judaism (talk/to do) WikiProject Jewish History (talk/to do) WikiProject Kabbalah (talk/to do) Now with 200% more Jewishness! Yes, folks, we're moving on up. This newsletter is now the newsletter for both WikiProject Judaism, WikiProject Jewish History, and WikiProject Kabbalah. In the future, I may split them, but for now I think we'll be just fine with one. As always, any questions or comments should be directed to me, L'Aquatique. A Special Dispatch Just a note, not aimed at anyone in particular. By order of the administrative cabal, it is officially not cool (and possibly dickish) to call someone an anti-semite when they aren't being anti-semitic. Anti-semitic is a very charged word, and it's important only to use it when you're absolutely sure it applies, lest it become the subject of a Godwin-esque law. Remember Hanlon's Razor: never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. In the News A new class on the importance scale has been added- C Class- which covers articles better than start but not quite to B Class yet. It is up to the WikiProjects to decide whether to adopt them or not. Currently, there has been little discussion within our Projects, so if you feel strongly either way be sure to note so at your Project[s]. There is a proposal to reword the section on NPOV regarding religious articles. Please see Wikipedia_talk:NPOV#Religion section - Disputes between historians or scientists and religious_views to weigh in. Thanks largely to the efforts of Xyz7890, a new navbox has come into being featuring Halakha topics. See: Template talk:Halakha to join in the conversation about how it can best be improved. To Do The Simple English Wikipedia is beginning a project of creating and improving articles related to religion, including Judaism. At the present time, volunteers are needed to propose our most important subjects for articles to be created. The official working list is here and a more extended list is here. If you are unsure of proper topics, you might try checking our lists of top importance level articles: Judaism and Jewish History. (WikiProject Kabbalah currently doesn't have such a list) [Simple English] WikiProject Christianity is considering running a monthly drive wherein two or three top importance articles from English Wikipedia are simplified and moved over to S.E. They have extended an offer to work with us in creating a similar project for Judaism related articles. For questions or volunteer opportunities, please contact User:John Carter. WikiProject Kabbalah is in dire need of an article rating system for quality and importance. If you are familiar with that system and have some time on your hands, please create one. It could also use some infoboxes... New Members Judaism: Big maybe, Janirai, Jfdwolff, Joseph.mahal, Joshua Weiss, LisaLiel, Rcjavid, Yehudi, YY, Agent204.15, Gilad73, Joseph.mahal, Noah03 Jewish History: Noah03 Kabbalah: None. Won't you join? New Articles Habib ben Elisha Faturechi (Thanks PhatJew!) There are some 40 odd standing requests for Judaism related articles. Please make them! I would, but I'm too busy writing this. . Quick Links Judaism Portal Kabbalah Portal Articles for Deletion Request for Comment Article Requests WikiProject Judaism Stats 281 Project Members 6155 articles 2342 of which are Stubs 15 of which are Good 8 of which are Featured WikiProject Jewish History Stats 69 Project Members 1124 articles 241 of which are Stubs 10 of which are Good 10 of which are Featured WikiProject Kabbalah Stats 12 Project Members 165 articles 87 of which are Stubs 1 of which is Good 1 of which is Featured Wikipedia ads file info – #148

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Hey bro, I was wondering why you changed the standard Twelve Imams template for Ja'far al-Sadiq? --Enzuru 21:44, 7 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-07T21:44:00.000Z","author":"Enzuru","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Enzuru-2008-08-07T21:44:00.000Z-Ja'far_al-Sadiq","replies":["c-Enzuru-2008-08-07T21:48:00.000Z-Enzuru-2008-08-07T21:44:00.000Z","c-The_Quill-2008-08-08T08:13:00.000Z-Enzuru-2008-08-07T21:44:00.000Z"]}}-->

Created Template following standard religous infobox style, I see is there a rule regarding how we have to run these templates? So far, no administrator has had an issue with how we've done it. We've stuck with the color theme of other Twelver information, as well as put a list on the end. It's a unique kind of template and it's been very helpful so far even for me as an editor. --Enzuru 21:48, 7 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-07T21:48:00.000Z","author":"Enzuru","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-Enzuru-2008-08-07T21:48:00.000Z-Enzuru-2008-08-07T21:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

I changed the template becasue i thought people might want a template which followed a standard design. The Quill (talk) 08:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-08T08:13:00.000Z","author":"The Quill","type":"comment","level":2,"id":"c-The_Quill-2008-08-08T08:13:00.000Z-Enzuru-2008-08-07T21:44:00.000Z","replies":[]}}-->

What are you doing here? You are not, as your edit says "restoring [the] microformat, but damaging it, and removing its documentation. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 15:39, 24 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-24T15:39:00.000Z","author":"Pigsonthewing","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-Pigsonthewing-2008-08-24T15:39:00.000Z-Infobox_Patriarch","replies":[],"displayName":"Andy Mabbett"}}-->

I'm not really sure what the point of this template is, but I've reverted your edits which added it to Bill Clinton, George H. W. Bush, and George W. Bush. It seems rather pointless, and is only used on one article. WP:TFD might be the answer. - auburnpilot talk 21:37, 26 August 2008 (UTC)__DTREPLYBUTTONSCONTENT__-->__DTELLIPSISBUTTON__{"threadItem":{"timestamp":"2008-08-26T21:37:00.000Z","author":"AuburnPilot","type":"comment","level":1,"id":"c-AuburnPilot-2008-08-26T21:37:00.000Z-Infobox_President_styles","replies":[]}}-->

The Judaism Newsletter Issue III -- Av, 5768

WikiProject Judaism (talk/to do) WikiProject Jewish History (talk/to do) WikiProject Kabbalah (talk/to do) "Censorship" of names of G-d There is an interesting discussion currently taking place regarding whether or not it is acceptable to censor (i.e. G-d, HaShem->YodHey) names of G-d in articles to protect Jews who may be reading or editing the article. You can weigh in here: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Judaism#Yahweh. Article Cleanup Lists User:B. Wolterding has generously offered us use of his bot to generate lists that show which articles of ours are tagged for cleanup. You can read more about this service here: User:B._Wolterding/Cleanup_listings and if you would like to take him up on his offer, contact him on his talk page. In the News There is a collaboration drive to get Holocaust in Lithuania to good article status. For information about how you can help, see the talk page or contact User:Piotrus. WikiProject Kabbalah's only Featured and Good articles have been removed from the WikiProject, on the grounds that neither article (Diane Keaton and David Beckham, respectively) actually mention the subject's affiliation with Kabbalah. If you have sourced information linking either of these people to Kabbalah, please add it so the articles can be returned to the WikiProject. After a rather heated discussion, there are now two barnstars for use by the Jewish WikiProjects, {{The Jewish Barnstar}} and {{The New Jewish Barnstar}}, and you can choose which one you would like to use.. Remember: barnstars are for rewarding users who are doing good work on the project or on Judaism, Jewish History, or Kabbalah articles, and anyone can give anyone else a barnstar. If you see a user who you thinks deserves a thank you, give them a barnstar! To Do/Help Requests If you have some spare time on your hands, we could use an article about a Kabbalah scholar named Moshe Idel. According to HG there are quite a few sources easily available, you can contact him if you have questions. Be sure to nominate it for DYK if the finished article is eligible. The folks at Shimon Peres need some assistance from someone familiar with both the Hebrew calendar and language to help them figure out the subject's birthday. If you can help, please see Talk:Shimon_Peres#Birthday. New Members Judaism: Arigont, Avi, CheskiChips, Pini00001, Shirulashem, TaliaNadel, Tyciol, yehoshuafriedla Jewish History: 5768altalena, AniMate, User:Yosef.garibaldi.gmail, Pinnecco, Shirulashem, Tyciol Kabbalah: Shuliavrumi New Articles Bezalel Rudinsky (thanks Shirulashem!}, Jewish tartan (thanks Briangotts!), Hebrew spelling (thanks Epson291) We get a lot of articles that are being created and not announced! By announcing new articles, you attract attention to them, and the more people looking and editing the better they will get. If you would like your new article to appear in the newsletter, add it here for Judaism and Kabbalah and here for Jewish History. There are some 40 odd standing requests for Judaism related articles. Please make them! I would, but I'm too busy writing this. . Quick Links Judaism Portal Kabbalah Portal Israel Portal Articles for Deletion Request for Comment Article Requests WikiProject Judaism Stats 291 Project Members 6248 articles 2356 of which are Stubs 18 of which are Good 6 of which are Featured WikiProject Jewish History Stats 77 Project Members 1141 articles 244 of which are Stubs 10 of which are Good 10 of which are Featured WikiProject Kabbalah Stats 13 Project Members 165 articles 87 of which are Stubs 0 of which are Good 0 of which are Featured Wikipedia ads file info – #148

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